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gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqibxjw | fqjiira | 1,589,393,947 | 1,589,410,413 | 5 | 29 | Thanks for asking this! I was also wondering the same thing and had the same issues. | If your results are best when you take 2 minutes to draw a single line then that's your best. Your best results are your best results. Slow tends to be wobbly though, and fast tends to arc. Practise at both extremes and find your happy place somewhere in-between. | 0 | 16,466 | 5.8 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqjiira | fqi7vb2 | 1,589,410,413 | 1,589,391,995 | 29 | -1 | If your results are best when you take 2 minutes to draw a single line then that's your best. Your best results are your best results. Slow tends to be wobbly though, and fast tends to arc. Practise at both extremes and find your happy place somewhere in-between. | There's a trick! Draw with your arm, slowly moving in a straight line. Use your elbow to kinda guide the movement. Don't drag it along, use the elbow, man. | 1 | 18,418 | -29 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqhzj3h | fqjylvh | 1,589,387,281 | 1,589,417,121 | 6 | 23 | My immediate thought is that you should take a look at your pen and your paper. A decent fineliner on smooth printer paper should make a confident stroke even at pretty fast speeds. Pens that are running dry, as well as rougher, toothier paper intended for charcoal/graphite sketching and drawing can definitely get in the way. Specifically, toothier paper can contribute to your pens draining much more quickly. | An exercise that may help your lines is: Draw a 3cm line on the paper, then below that line draw another line that is roughly half the page, and then draw a line from one side to the other, covering the full page length. Then, you have to draw 8 times right above each line, trying to follow the path you've first drawn. Something like this: \----------------------- \--------------------------------------------------------------- \--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tips: \- Don't rest your hand nor your wrist on the desk. Draw with your elbow and shoulder! \- Don't look right at the tip of your pen, instead look at the path it will go through (maybe 1cm or two foward) \- Do consistent lines! Don't raise your pen from the paper until you're finished \- Keep your pen at 90 degrees (It's hard, I know. But it's rewarding, trust me.) \- The more you do, the better you get :) Hope it you help you <3 | 0 | 29,840 | 3.833333 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqicorb | fqjylvh | 1,589,394,243 | 1,589,417,121 | 7 | 23 | I have noticed that when my ink starts coming out "scratchy" it's time to get a new pen. The ones from drawabox are really worth it I think! When I stopped having to worry about how hard to press or how fast to go, I found that my lines started to get better. | An exercise that may help your lines is: Draw a 3cm line on the paper, then below that line draw another line that is roughly half the page, and then draw a line from one side to the other, covering the full page length. Then, you have to draw 8 times right above each line, trying to follow the path you've first drawn. Something like this: \----------------------- \--------------------------------------------------------------- \--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tips: \- Don't rest your hand nor your wrist on the desk. Draw with your elbow and shoulder! \- Don't look right at the tip of your pen, instead look at the path it will go through (maybe 1cm or two foward) \- Do consistent lines! Don't raise your pen from the paper until you're finished \- Keep your pen at 90 degrees (It's hard, I know. But it's rewarding, trust me.) \- The more you do, the better you get :) Hope it you help you <3 | 0 | 22,878 | 3.285714 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqjylvh | fqibxjw | 1,589,417,121 | 1,589,393,947 | 23 | 5 | An exercise that may help your lines is: Draw a 3cm line on the paper, then below that line draw another line that is roughly half the page, and then draw a line from one side to the other, covering the full page length. Then, you have to draw 8 times right above each line, trying to follow the path you've first drawn. Something like this: \----------------------- \--------------------------------------------------------------- \--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tips: \- Don't rest your hand nor your wrist on the desk. Draw with your elbow and shoulder! \- Don't look right at the tip of your pen, instead look at the path it will go through (maybe 1cm or two foward) \- Do consistent lines! Don't raise your pen from the paper until you're finished \- Keep your pen at 90 degrees (It's hard, I know. But it's rewarding, trust me.) \- The more you do, the better you get :) Hope it you help you <3 | Thanks for asking this! I was also wondering the same thing and had the same issues. | 1 | 23,174 | 4.6 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqjylvh | fqi7vb2 | 1,589,417,121 | 1,589,391,995 | 23 | -1 | An exercise that may help your lines is: Draw a 3cm line on the paper, then below that line draw another line that is roughly half the page, and then draw a line from one side to the other, covering the full page length. Then, you have to draw 8 times right above each line, trying to follow the path you've first drawn. Something like this: \----------------------- \--------------------------------------------------------------- \--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Tips: \- Don't rest your hand nor your wrist on the desk. Draw with your elbow and shoulder! \- Don't look right at the tip of your pen, instead look at the path it will go through (maybe 1cm or two foward) \- Do consistent lines! Don't raise your pen from the paper until you're finished \- Keep your pen at 90 degrees (It's hard, I know. But it's rewarding, trust me.) \- The more you do, the better you get :) Hope it you help you <3 | There's a trick! Draw with your arm, slowly moving in a straight line. Use your elbow to kinda guide the movement. Don't drag it along, use the elbow, man. | 1 | 25,126 | -23 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqkm7yd | fqhzj3h | 1,589,430,459 | 1,589,387,281 | 19 | 6 | No less than 1.8 m/s | My immediate thought is that you should take a look at your pen and your paper. A decent fineliner on smooth printer paper should make a confident stroke even at pretty fast speeds. Pens that are running dry, as well as rougher, toothier paper intended for charcoal/graphite sketching and drawing can definitely get in the way. Specifically, toothier paper can contribute to your pens draining much more quickly. | 1 | 43,178 | 3.166667 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqkm7yd | fqicorb | 1,589,430,459 | 1,589,394,243 | 19 | 7 | No less than 1.8 m/s | I have noticed that when my ink starts coming out "scratchy" it's time to get a new pen. The ones from drawabox are really worth it I think! When I stopped having to worry about how hard to press or how fast to go, I found that my lines started to get better. | 1 | 36,216 | 2.714286 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqibxjw | fqkm7yd | 1,589,393,947 | 1,589,430,459 | 5 | 19 | Thanks for asking this! I was also wondering the same thing and had the same issues. | No less than 1.8 m/s | 0 | 36,512 | 3.8 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqkm7yd | fqi7vb2 | 1,589,430,459 | 1,589,391,995 | 19 | -1 | No less than 1.8 m/s | There's a trick! Draw with your arm, slowly moving in a straight line. Use your elbow to kinda guide the movement. Don't drag it along, use the elbow, man. | 1 | 38,464 | -19 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqicorb | fqhzj3h | 1,589,394,243 | 1,589,387,281 | 7 | 6 | I have noticed that when my ink starts coming out "scratchy" it's time to get a new pen. The ones from drawabox are really worth it I think! When I stopped having to worry about how hard to press or how fast to go, I found that my lines started to get better. | My immediate thought is that you should take a look at your pen and your paper. A decent fineliner on smooth printer paper should make a confident stroke even at pretty fast speeds. Pens that are running dry, as well as rougher, toothier paper intended for charcoal/graphite sketching and drawing can definitely get in the way. Specifically, toothier paper can contribute to your pens draining much more quickly. | 1 | 6,962 | 1.166667 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqibxjw | fqicorb | 1,589,393,947 | 1,589,394,243 | 5 | 7 | Thanks for asking this! I was also wondering the same thing and had the same issues. | I have noticed that when my ink starts coming out "scratchy" it's time to get a new pen. The ones from drawabox are really worth it I think! When I stopped having to worry about how hard to press or how fast to go, I found that my lines started to get better. | 0 | 296 | 1.4 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqicorb | fqi7vb2 | 1,589,394,243 | 1,589,391,995 | 7 | -1 | I have noticed that when my ink starts coming out "scratchy" it's time to get a new pen. The ones from drawabox are really worth it I think! When I stopped having to worry about how hard to press or how fast to go, I found that my lines started to get better. | There's a trick! Draw with your arm, slowly moving in a straight line. Use your elbow to kinda guide the movement. Don't drag it along, use the elbow, man. | 1 | 2,248 | -7 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqibxjw | fqi7vb2 | 1,589,393,947 | 1,589,391,995 | 5 | -1 | Thanks for asking this! I was also wondering the same thing and had the same issues. | There's a trick! Draw with your arm, slowly moving in a straight line. Use your elbow to kinda guide the movement. Don't drag it along, use the elbow, man. | 1 | 1,952 | -5 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fql5olc | fqi7vb2 | 1,589,447,136 | 1,589,391,995 | 4 | -1 | 299 792 458 m / s | There's a trick! Draw with your arm, slowly moving in a straight line. Use your elbow to kinda guide the movement. Don't drag it along, use the elbow, man. | 1 | 55,141 | -4 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqldq43 | fqli08s | 1,589,455,061 | 1,589,458,627 | 3 | 4 | I started drawabox too a month ago more or less, I can safely tell you you can draw slow and precise lines, you'll get the speed later. Focus on what the exercise is about, if you see that going "as fast as the teacher goes" is too fast to get the assignment, just adapt yourself to it :) | Don't worry to much about ink. An arcing line could mean you are thinking too much, moving too slow or not ghosting enough. Start with a small line then extend. Try drawing an opposite curves until it gets straight. | 0 | 3,566 | 1.333333 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqli08s | fqi7vb2 | 1,589,458,627 | 1,589,391,995 | 4 | -1 | Don't worry to much about ink. An arcing line could mean you are thinking too much, moving too slow or not ghosting enough. Start with a small line then extend. Try drawing an opposite curves until it gets straight. | There's a trick! Draw with your arm, slowly moving in a straight line. Use your elbow to kinda guide the movement. Don't drag it along, use the elbow, man. | 1 | 66,632 | -4 | ||
gj16e6 | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How fast should I be moving my arm when I draw lines? Just starting out with Drawabox and I'm unsure about one thing, which is the speed at which I should be moving when I draw a line. In the videos, Uncomfortable seems to move pretty quickly. But when I do that, I end up not getting a good amount of ink from the pen. It's very faded and scratchy. I also have a harder time getting the right trajectory and am more likely to have an arcing line. I seem to get the most success with lines (in terms of smoothness, trajectory, a good amount of ink, etc.) when I'm moving relatively slowly. Does the speed matter in that case? I'm pretty sure I'm using my arm correctly based on where it's getting tired. I'm a total newb, by the way. Aside from high school art classes (which were full of chicken scratch, as I'm now learning). I've never used a fine liner either. | fqldq43 | fqi7vb2 | 1,589,455,061 | 1,589,391,995 | 3 | -1 | I started drawabox too a month ago more or less, I can safely tell you you can draw slow and precise lines, you'll get the speed later. Focus on what the exercise is about, if you see that going "as fast as the teacher goes" is too fast to get the assignment, just adapt yourself to it :) | There's a trick! Draw with your arm, slowly moving in a straight line. Use your elbow to kinda guide the movement. Don't drag it along, use the elbow, man. | 1 | 63,066 | -3 | ||
wkyqk2 | artfundamentals_train | 0.89 | 250 Boxes Really Discouraging? How do I relax I have only done first 20 something boxes and maybe it is too early to tell but they really dashed my, like confidence? I am so anxious about the result and about the thing that I often miss the box, redo lines, catch myself drawing from wrist more often than with box exercises, go back to wobbly lines etc etc. I dunno I just feel like since this is an apex of lesson 1 i SHOULD be better at it but I am not. I saw how much people improved and I am not sure if I will be able to in such a capacity as them and it is really messing with my head quite a lot. I have had to pause for three days cause I have been sleeping like shit and I can barely do basics much less consistent boxes drawing with my shaky hands rn but I have been dreading picking it back up. | ijrby29 | ijr8w9i | 1,660,159,466 | 1,660,158,314 | 12 | 10 | Chill. Put on some music and draw to the music. Make it fun. Anxiety just needs burnout. You've got this | Baby steps, OP. Baby steps. Deep breaths, take rests, then dissect the problem. My boxes are messy -> why are they messy? Because they don't look like good boxes -> why not? Because I understood the theory but when I draw the box there are so many mistakes -> what kind of mistakes? My lines are wobbly -> why are they wobbly? Because I can't draw straight lines -> why can't you draw straight lines? Because my arm doesn't know how to -> what do you mean? My arm stutters -> why does your arm stutter? It's not confident or used to the motion -> then try slowing down the motion. But my line wobbles if I'm too slow -> why are you "too" slow? Hmm.. Maybe because I haven't really planned the motion and I'm trying to figure out the motion while I'm drawing -> try thinking about the motion, ghost the line, then attempt it at a slow enough pace so you're able to catch when exactly your arm shoots off and why. Once you figure out the problem, mileage and practice makes more sense. I know your own circumstances may be more complex then the train of thought that I laid out, but what matters is not getting stuck on abstract mistakes like simply accepting that a box looks messy. You can't solve abstract problems without first making them more tangible. And try not to be too hard on yourself. It took how long before humans figured out vanishing points? Surely you can afford yourself the time to grow :) | 1 | 1,152 | 1.2 | ||
wkyqk2 | artfundamentals_train | 0.89 | 250 Boxes Really Discouraging? How do I relax I have only done first 20 something boxes and maybe it is too early to tell but they really dashed my, like confidence? I am so anxious about the result and about the thing that I often miss the box, redo lines, catch myself drawing from wrist more often than with box exercises, go back to wobbly lines etc etc. I dunno I just feel like since this is an apex of lesson 1 i SHOULD be better at it but I am not. I saw how much people improved and I am not sure if I will be able to in such a capacity as them and it is really messing with my head quite a lot. I have had to pause for three days cause I have been sleeping like shit and I can barely do basics much less consistent boxes drawing with my shaky hands rn but I have been dreading picking it back up. | ijrby29 | ijqofte | 1,660,159,466 | 1,660,150,725 | 12 | 7 | Chill. Put on some music and draw to the music. Make it fun. Anxiety just needs burnout. You've got this | Hey, it's okay. Drawing shouldn't have to stand in as your source of confidence - drawing should be relaxing, fun, or at least not a source of negativity. Otherwise it would make for a pretty bad hobby, wouldn't it, haha Anyway, I kind of understand where you're coming from. I am in the same place and it's pretty hard to look away from other people's amazing drawings or progress. However, this is not about them, this is about you. I understand you have trouble sleeping (maybe stress, etc.?). I obviously don't know what's going on, but whatever it is, don't make it worse by indulging your fears in an activity that should be fun and could be a chance to relax Try to find what works for you: Imagine you're the only person in this world and no one is there to compare your drawings to. Turn off Social Media. Try to separate your journey from other people's journey. Indulge in the relaxing repetitiveness of drawing a box - maybe it'll help calm you down. All things you could try out, maybe they work, maybe they won't. And see each box as its own little self-contained snapshot which doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things (obviously it does matter in the big picture, but I am bad with words sometimes, haha. Don't worry about a single messed up pixel in the big frame, I guess. It won't be visible.) And even if you don't improve: Maybe you like how it's relaxing for you? Or what you discover and begin to understand during the process? I dunno, hopefully this wasn't too long. Hope your sleeping problems improve btw! Terrible sleep is definitely not a nice thing to deal with (having that problem as well). If you're stressing about not getting enough sleep, sometimes it helps me to view night time as 'chill time' to watch stuff and enjoy comics or such instead of thinking of it as 'must get sleep time'. Though, of course I don't want to minimize this and really wish you well! | 1 | 8,741 | 1.714286 | ||
wkyqk2 | artfundamentals_train | 0.89 | 250 Boxes Really Discouraging? How do I relax I have only done first 20 something boxes and maybe it is too early to tell but they really dashed my, like confidence? I am so anxious about the result and about the thing that I often miss the box, redo lines, catch myself drawing from wrist more often than with box exercises, go back to wobbly lines etc etc. I dunno I just feel like since this is an apex of lesson 1 i SHOULD be better at it but I am not. I saw how much people improved and I am not sure if I will be able to in such a capacity as them and it is really messing with my head quite a lot. I have had to pause for three days cause I have been sleeping like shit and I can barely do basics much less consistent boxes drawing with my shaky hands rn but I have been dreading picking it back up. | ijr8w9i | ijqofte | 1,660,158,314 | 1,660,150,725 | 10 | 7 | Baby steps, OP. Baby steps. Deep breaths, take rests, then dissect the problem. My boxes are messy -> why are they messy? Because they don't look like good boxes -> why not? Because I understood the theory but when I draw the box there are so many mistakes -> what kind of mistakes? My lines are wobbly -> why are they wobbly? Because I can't draw straight lines -> why can't you draw straight lines? Because my arm doesn't know how to -> what do you mean? My arm stutters -> why does your arm stutter? It's not confident or used to the motion -> then try slowing down the motion. But my line wobbles if I'm too slow -> why are you "too" slow? Hmm.. Maybe because I haven't really planned the motion and I'm trying to figure out the motion while I'm drawing -> try thinking about the motion, ghost the line, then attempt it at a slow enough pace so you're able to catch when exactly your arm shoots off and why. Once you figure out the problem, mileage and practice makes more sense. I know your own circumstances may be more complex then the train of thought that I laid out, but what matters is not getting stuck on abstract mistakes like simply accepting that a box looks messy. You can't solve abstract problems without first making them more tangible. And try not to be too hard on yourself. It took how long before humans figured out vanishing points? Surely you can afford yourself the time to grow :) | Hey, it's okay. Drawing shouldn't have to stand in as your source of confidence - drawing should be relaxing, fun, or at least not a source of negativity. Otherwise it would make for a pretty bad hobby, wouldn't it, haha Anyway, I kind of understand where you're coming from. I am in the same place and it's pretty hard to look away from other people's amazing drawings or progress. However, this is not about them, this is about you. I understand you have trouble sleeping (maybe stress, etc.?). I obviously don't know what's going on, but whatever it is, don't make it worse by indulging your fears in an activity that should be fun and could be a chance to relax Try to find what works for you: Imagine you're the only person in this world and no one is there to compare your drawings to. Turn off Social Media. Try to separate your journey from other people's journey. Indulge in the relaxing repetitiveness of drawing a box - maybe it'll help calm you down. All things you could try out, maybe they work, maybe they won't. And see each box as its own little self-contained snapshot which doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things (obviously it does matter in the big picture, but I am bad with words sometimes, haha. Don't worry about a single messed up pixel in the big frame, I guess. It won't be visible.) And even if you don't improve: Maybe you like how it's relaxing for you? Or what you discover and begin to understand during the process? I dunno, hopefully this wasn't too long. Hope your sleeping problems improve btw! Terrible sleep is definitely not a nice thing to deal with (having that problem as well). If you're stressing about not getting enough sleep, sometimes it helps me to view night time as 'chill time' to watch stuff and enjoy comics or such instead of thinking of it as 'must get sleep time'. Though, of course I don't want to minimize this and really wish you well! | 1 | 7,589 | 1.428571 | ||
wqi19w | artfundamentals_train | 1 | i can only draw perfect boxes with dramatic foreshortening I'm currently doing the 250 box challenge . I'm on box 53 . Until 40 boxes I used to draw them without dramatic foreshortening , but my lines wouldn't converge perfectly. But now I'm doing dramatic foreshortening and the lines converge almost perfectly . Any idea why this happens ? How can i make the lines converge better without making the vanishing points too close ? | ikoqljr | ikmkht1 | 1,660,759,494 | 1,660,719,382 | 12 | 1 | It's easier because the lines are extending toward a closer vanishing point. A trick I do is ghost a few times well past where my line will stop to see how well it aims toward the finishing point, then I will ghost a few more times following that line, but stopping where I want my line to stop. Think of a golfer or a billiards player lining up their shot by using their club/stick to aim at the hole. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 40,112 | 12 | ||
wqi19w | artfundamentals_train | 1 | i can only draw perfect boxes with dramatic foreshortening I'm currently doing the 250 box challenge . I'm on box 53 . Until 40 boxes I used to draw them without dramatic foreshortening , but my lines wouldn't converge perfectly. But now I'm doing dramatic foreshortening and the lines converge almost perfectly . Any idea why this happens ? How can i make the lines converge better without making the vanishing points too close ? | ikrdtz6 | ikmkht1 | 1,660,800,999 | 1,660,719,382 | 3 | 1 | That's normal. It's easier to see the convergences with dramatic foreshortening since it's very close to the box. With shallow foreshortening the convergence is far away which makes it harder to estimate. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 81,617 | 3 | ||
t7nkni | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How are y'all not getting confused with all the construction lines? Now that I am onto the vehicle lesson, I find myself starting over and over again because there are so many lines and I keep making mistakes from getting confused between one line and another one for measuring (like I would making a line based on a diagonal line to separate something but then realise it was the wrong line that I used for other box). I am so tempted to use different coloured pens, go with a light sketch before pressing down final lines or using pens of different thickness now. Anyone have any tips???? | hzn4m4o | hzlyl3a | 1,646,612,402 | 1,646,594,110 | 5 | 4 | Bold of you to assume we aren’t. I did the advanced boxes exercises about 5 times because of the same issue. But when I got to the cars I basically had no problem with it anymore, I just got used to it. In my experience if you get confused take a step back, focus on the plane you need and imagine the diagonal line that would cross it. You’ll probably realize which one of them belongs to this plane when you do this. | The idea of construction lines is that it works for you, if you work for that, you're constructing a construction. | 1 | 18,292 | 1.25 | ||
t7nkni | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How are y'all not getting confused with all the construction lines? Now that I am onto the vehicle lesson, I find myself starting over and over again because there are so many lines and I keep making mistakes from getting confused between one line and another one for measuring (like I would making a line based on a diagonal line to separate something but then realise it was the wrong line that I used for other box). I am so tempted to use different coloured pens, go with a light sketch before pressing down final lines or using pens of different thickness now. Anyone have any tips???? | hzn4m4o | hzm9f3m | 1,646,612,402 | 1,646,598,695 | 5 | 4 | Bold of you to assume we aren’t. I did the advanced boxes exercises about 5 times because of the same issue. But when I got to the cars I basically had no problem with it anymore, I just got used to it. In my experience if you get confused take a step back, focus on the plane you need and imagine the diagonal line that would cross it. You’ll probably realize which one of them belongs to this plane when you do this. | I'm on lesson 6 and have been having the same issue. I asked about it on the drawabox website and got a response with a few tips that might help. | 1 | 13,707 | 1.25 | ||
d17sw5 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | I've gone through most lessons and I have enjoyed both the lesssons and the construction approach. With that in mind what are some suggestions if I want to start with the human figure? Hello everyone. As I said in the title, I'm currently about to start lesson 7 and I fear that when I want to start with the human figure I won't know what teaching sources to use. I am aware drawabox used to have a human figure lesson(s) but they are not there anymore which I'm sure there is a good reason for that. Anyway, I have loved drawabox since I started with it (even though that 250 box challenge was exhausting!) and I can confidently say it has been the material that most have helped me learning art. I also have taken a liking for the construction approach which has proven to be beyond useful and a great technique which I have used a lot for my projects so I enjoy using it. With that in mind what books or courses would be a good fit for me? Thanks for taking your time reading this and I will appreciate every suggestion! | ezitsnd | ezjv7s4 | 1,567,933,182 | 1,567,950,860 | 6 | 7 | I'd go for a Bridgman book. They look messy at first glance, but are great for constructive anatomy, start with the head , hands and gesture first, anatomy and landmarks second. | Other people have already said these, but juat to second them, I guess, Proko's youtube channel and Bridgman's constructive anatomy seem to be the way to go. You may also like moderndayjames on youtube. | 0 | 17,678 | 1.166667 | ||
d17sw5 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | I've gone through most lessons and I have enjoyed both the lesssons and the construction approach. With that in mind what are some suggestions if I want to start with the human figure? Hello everyone. As I said in the title, I'm currently about to start lesson 7 and I fear that when I want to start with the human figure I won't know what teaching sources to use. I am aware drawabox used to have a human figure lesson(s) but they are not there anymore which I'm sure there is a good reason for that. Anyway, I have loved drawabox since I started with it (even though that 250 box challenge was exhausting!) and I can confidently say it has been the material that most have helped me learning art. I also have taken a liking for the construction approach which has proven to be beyond useful and a great technique which I have used a lot for my projects so I enjoy using it. With that in mind what books or courses would be a good fit for me? Thanks for taking your time reading this and I will appreciate every suggestion! | ezk5hzx | ezitsnd | 1,567,955,228 | 1,567,933,182 | 7 | 6 | I would recommend you following Prokos Figure Drawing, im following it simultaneously to DAB and it in some points complements and expand your knowledge about 3D space. Im currently in the bean section;it covers topics as tilting,foreshortening and twist of a organic form. I found it very useful and also really fun to learn due to Prokos charismatic way of teatching . When Im getting a lil bit overwhelmed by DAB lessons i go back to Prokos Figure Drawing. Also a good book to complement that course is "Figure Drawing: Design and Invention" By Michael Hampton, it offers a very clear approach to figure drawing. Bridgemans book is very good but i look at it as the next step because its really more advanced. | I'd go for a Bridgman book. They look messy at first glance, but are great for constructive anatomy, start with the head , hands and gesture first, anatomy and landmarks second. | 1 | 22,046 | 1.166667 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hyzobly | hz2m0xd | 1,646,184,572 | 1,646,241,658 | 12 | 13 | You might be feeling burnt out by personal life stuff, or you might be putting to much pressure on yourself to be perfect. If you want to achieve a goal of doing all of the lessons but are feeling rough with personal stuff it’s OK to only to the bare minimum. It could be just a single page of just lines, or a total of 3 boxes, or it could be a low effort sketch of something you enjoy, It’s ok to not put effort into what you draw, have fun with it! Be weird, funky, gross, cool, sad and even happy with your art! Remember the art fundamentals are here to help you achieve the art you want, so take time to draw what YOU want along side the lessons. :) | I find that motivation follows Action. I try NOT to think about doing things and just start doing things, small Things. Make your bed, brush your teeth, get dressed, take a small walk. I HATE the thought of exercising. But if I just put my shoes on and start small, within 45 seconds I’m motivated to do another minute and it just progresses from there. Try to Create small habits that require Zero thoughts. | 0 | 57,086 | 1.083333 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hz2m0xd | hyy4dji | 1,646,241,658 | 1,646,161,897 | 13 | 6 | I find that motivation follows Action. I try NOT to think about doing things and just start doing things, small Things. Make your bed, brush your teeth, get dressed, take a small walk. I HATE the thought of exercising. But if I just put my shoes on and start small, within 45 seconds I’m motivated to do another minute and it just progresses from there. Try to Create small habits that require Zero thoughts. | This always works for me. Paint something again that you painted before or draw or whatever it is. Seeing how your style changed activates the creative side again | 1 | 79,761 | 2.166667 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hz2m0xd | hz1dh2j | 1,646,241,658 | 1,646,221,202 | 13 | 4 | I find that motivation follows Action. I try NOT to think about doing things and just start doing things, small Things. Make your bed, brush your teeth, get dressed, take a small walk. I HATE the thought of exercising. But if I just put my shoes on and start small, within 45 seconds I’m motivated to do another minute and it just progresses from there. Try to Create small habits that require Zero thoughts. | It can be for many reasons, personal, artistic, hitting a 'wall' in progress. My advice, make it simple but with commitment: tell yourself for the next week you are going to sit down with paper and pencil at a suitable time (e.g. evening). Do it without worrying about actually drawing. If you do, great, but just set the expectation that you have the materials at hand. If that goes ok, move to drawing for 15 minutes, even if only scribble or boxes or something. Do some timed practice or similar. Build off this as you go, but the important thing is that you're building the habit and commitment. Other thoughts: what do you really like? Draw that! And I mean really like as an interest, not just a cool image or artist. Birds, gothic buildings, mushrooms, ants? Etc, figure that out. Feed your true interests into your art. Do fundamentals! Are you good at form? Perspective? Colour? Human figure? Pick one and practice it to see what you don't know. Then find online material to follow to improve more. Most importantly, take away expectations! If you are getting back into it after a while, you'll want to immediately be just as good but your skills have dropped a little, then you get frustrated and stop. Deliberately acknowledge you'll get things wrong, so plan a self-critique for after you finish: what did I get wrong, what went well, what was challenging? Take your time. Hope some of that helps, I've been going through different stages of procrastination myself, it's not easy when ideas aren't flowing, but my drawing gear is still next to me, so I know it'll happen. | 1 | 20,456 | 3.25 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hz2m0xd | hyz64qe | 1,646,241,658 | 1,646,176,568 | 13 | 5 | I find that motivation follows Action. I try NOT to think about doing things and just start doing things, small Things. Make your bed, brush your teeth, get dressed, take a small walk. I HATE the thought of exercising. But if I just put my shoes on and start small, within 45 seconds I’m motivated to do another minute and it just progresses from there. Try to Create small habits that require Zero thoughts. | Daily structured drawing practice and sticking to it. Can you tell me a little about your current drawing routine? | 1 | 65,090 | 2.6 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hz2m0xd | hyz0ikb | 1,646,241,658 | 1,646,174,272 | 13 | 3 | I find that motivation follows Action. I try NOT to think about doing things and just start doing things, small Things. Make your bed, brush your teeth, get dressed, take a small walk. I HATE the thought of exercising. But if I just put my shoes on and start small, within 45 seconds I’m motivated to do another minute and it just progresses from there. Try to Create small habits that require Zero thoughts. | Ask yourself: why are you doing art? What is your goal? Once you parse that out, it will help lay down the motivation for you. | 1 | 67,386 | 4.333333 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hz1lk4j | hz2m0xd | 1,646,226,138 | 1,646,241,658 | 1 | 13 | This happens to me always. I know it’s prob the generic answer, but blocking out my days when i feel a slump coming really really helps me. that way, for example, i allot an hour of work/homework for an hour or half an hour of a show or gaming, and regardless of how much work i’ve gotten done in that time i still make sure to honor my scheduled time for everything. taking time for yourself is great, and i think building it into my day helps me because i know i will be taking time to destress. sometimes this doesn’t always work, but as long as i block out a few days i can rearrange my timing for my schedule if i feel especially unmotivated somedays. my problem is that even if i block out time, i feel incredibly guilty for taking time off instead of getting everything done in advance. it’s something i’m working on, but google calendar has become my best friend in all ways | I find that motivation follows Action. I try NOT to think about doing things and just start doing things, small Things. Make your bed, brush your teeth, get dressed, take a small walk. I HATE the thought of exercising. But if I just put my shoes on and start small, within 45 seconds I’m motivated to do another minute and it just progresses from there. Try to Create small habits that require Zero thoughts. | 0 | 15,520 | 13 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hz2m0xd | hyz7ev6 | 1,646,241,658 | 1,646,177,104 | 13 | -9 | I find that motivation follows Action. I try NOT to think about doing things and just start doing things, small Things. Make your bed, brush your teeth, get dressed, take a small walk. I HATE the thought of exercising. But if I just put my shoes on and start small, within 45 seconds I’m motivated to do another minute and it just progresses from there. Try to Create small habits that require Zero thoughts. | Do it or don't. | 1 | 64,554 | -1.444444 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hyy4dji | hyzobly | 1,646,161,897 | 1,646,184,572 | 6 | 12 | This always works for me. Paint something again that you painted before or draw or whatever it is. Seeing how your style changed activates the creative side again | You might be feeling burnt out by personal life stuff, or you might be putting to much pressure on yourself to be perfect. If you want to achieve a goal of doing all of the lessons but are feeling rough with personal stuff it’s OK to only to the bare minimum. It could be just a single page of just lines, or a total of 3 boxes, or it could be a low effort sketch of something you enjoy, It’s ok to not put effort into what you draw, have fun with it! Be weird, funky, gross, cool, sad and even happy with your art! Remember the art fundamentals are here to help you achieve the art you want, so take time to draw what YOU want along side the lessons. :) | 0 | 22,675 | 2 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hyzobly | hyz64qe | 1,646,184,572 | 1,646,176,568 | 12 | 5 | You might be feeling burnt out by personal life stuff, or you might be putting to much pressure on yourself to be perfect. If you want to achieve a goal of doing all of the lessons but are feeling rough with personal stuff it’s OK to only to the bare minimum. It could be just a single page of just lines, or a total of 3 boxes, or it could be a low effort sketch of something you enjoy, It’s ok to not put effort into what you draw, have fun with it! Be weird, funky, gross, cool, sad and even happy with your art! Remember the art fundamentals are here to help you achieve the art you want, so take time to draw what YOU want along side the lessons. :) | Daily structured drawing practice and sticking to it. Can you tell me a little about your current drawing routine? | 1 | 8,004 | 2.4 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hyz0ikb | hyzobly | 1,646,174,272 | 1,646,184,572 | 3 | 12 | Ask yourself: why are you doing art? What is your goal? Once you parse that out, it will help lay down the motivation for you. | You might be feeling burnt out by personal life stuff, or you might be putting to much pressure on yourself to be perfect. If you want to achieve a goal of doing all of the lessons but are feeling rough with personal stuff it’s OK to only to the bare minimum. It could be just a single page of just lines, or a total of 3 boxes, or it could be a low effort sketch of something you enjoy, It’s ok to not put effort into what you draw, have fun with it! Be weird, funky, gross, cool, sad and even happy with your art! Remember the art fundamentals are here to help you achieve the art you want, so take time to draw what YOU want along side the lessons. :) | 0 | 10,300 | 4 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hyz7ev6 | hyzobly | 1,646,177,104 | 1,646,184,572 | -9 | 12 | Do it or don't. | You might be feeling burnt out by personal life stuff, or you might be putting to much pressure on yourself to be perfect. If you want to achieve a goal of doing all of the lessons but are feeling rough with personal stuff it’s OK to only to the bare minimum. It could be just a single page of just lines, or a total of 3 boxes, or it could be a low effort sketch of something you enjoy, It’s ok to not put effort into what you draw, have fun with it! Be weird, funky, gross, cool, sad and even happy with your art! Remember the art fundamentals are here to help you achieve the art you want, so take time to draw what YOU want along side the lessons. :) | 0 | 7,468 | -1.333333 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hz1dh2j | hyz0ikb | 1,646,221,202 | 1,646,174,272 | 4 | 3 | It can be for many reasons, personal, artistic, hitting a 'wall' in progress. My advice, make it simple but with commitment: tell yourself for the next week you are going to sit down with paper and pencil at a suitable time (e.g. evening). Do it without worrying about actually drawing. If you do, great, but just set the expectation that you have the materials at hand. If that goes ok, move to drawing for 15 minutes, even if only scribble or boxes or something. Do some timed practice or similar. Build off this as you go, but the important thing is that you're building the habit and commitment. Other thoughts: what do you really like? Draw that! And I mean really like as an interest, not just a cool image or artist. Birds, gothic buildings, mushrooms, ants? Etc, figure that out. Feed your true interests into your art. Do fundamentals! Are you good at form? Perspective? Colour? Human figure? Pick one and practice it to see what you don't know. Then find online material to follow to improve more. Most importantly, take away expectations! If you are getting back into it after a while, you'll want to immediately be just as good but your skills have dropped a little, then you get frustrated and stop. Deliberately acknowledge you'll get things wrong, so plan a self-critique for after you finish: what did I get wrong, what went well, what was challenging? Take your time. Hope some of that helps, I've been going through different stages of procrastination myself, it's not easy when ideas aren't flowing, but my drawing gear is still next to me, so I know it'll happen. | Ask yourself: why are you doing art? What is your goal? Once you parse that out, it will help lay down the motivation for you. | 1 | 46,930 | 1.333333 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hz1dh2j | hyz7ev6 | 1,646,221,202 | 1,646,177,104 | 4 | -9 | It can be for many reasons, personal, artistic, hitting a 'wall' in progress. My advice, make it simple but with commitment: tell yourself for the next week you are going to sit down with paper and pencil at a suitable time (e.g. evening). Do it without worrying about actually drawing. If you do, great, but just set the expectation that you have the materials at hand. If that goes ok, move to drawing for 15 minutes, even if only scribble or boxes or something. Do some timed practice or similar. Build off this as you go, but the important thing is that you're building the habit and commitment. Other thoughts: what do you really like? Draw that! And I mean really like as an interest, not just a cool image or artist. Birds, gothic buildings, mushrooms, ants? Etc, figure that out. Feed your true interests into your art. Do fundamentals! Are you good at form? Perspective? Colour? Human figure? Pick one and practice it to see what you don't know. Then find online material to follow to improve more. Most importantly, take away expectations! If you are getting back into it after a while, you'll want to immediately be just as good but your skills have dropped a little, then you get frustrated and stop. Deliberately acknowledge you'll get things wrong, so plan a self-critique for after you finish: what did I get wrong, what went well, what was challenging? Take your time. Hope some of that helps, I've been going through different stages of procrastination myself, it's not easy when ideas aren't flowing, but my drawing gear is still next to me, so I know it'll happen. | Do it or don't. | 1 | 44,098 | -0.444444 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hyz0ikb | hyz64qe | 1,646,174,272 | 1,646,176,568 | 3 | 5 | Ask yourself: why are you doing art? What is your goal? Once you parse that out, it will help lay down the motivation for you. | Daily structured drawing practice and sticking to it. Can you tell me a little about your current drawing routine? | 0 | 2,296 | 1.666667 | ||
t4fb0c | artfundamentals_train | 0.92 | Struggling with motivation I used to be pretty good at getting myself out of periods of lack of motivation but it's particularly hard right now. Anyone wanna share their methods for getting back into the groove of things? (I do allow myself time off when I feel burnt out but I don't even feel burnt out rn!) | hz1lk4j | hyz7ev6 | 1,646,226,138 | 1,646,177,104 | 1 | -9 | This happens to me always. I know it’s prob the generic answer, but blocking out my days when i feel a slump coming really really helps me. that way, for example, i allot an hour of work/homework for an hour or half an hour of a show or gaming, and regardless of how much work i’ve gotten done in that time i still make sure to honor my scheduled time for everything. taking time for yourself is great, and i think building it into my day helps me because i know i will be taking time to destress. sometimes this doesn’t always work, but as long as i block out a few days i can rearrange my timing for my schedule if i feel especially unmotivated somedays. my problem is that even if i block out time, i feel incredibly guilty for taking time off instead of getting everything done in advance. it’s something i’m working on, but google calendar has become my best friend in all ways | Do it or don't. | 1 | 49,034 | -0.111111 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id1aajq | id28hrz | 1,655,710,362 | 1,655,734,840 | 16 | 18 | let your drawing be shit. if you wanna design cool stuff you gotta design stuff first. don't worry about whether it's good or bad just be proud of yourself that you designed something. | Personally the joy comes from succeeding from time to time or making something pleasing in a reasonable timeframe. I can do simple things and enjoy them (probably nobody will see them) A second challenge is boredom. Sometimes i do end up doing something that take a serious investment but that comes out of smaller projects. I suppose everybody would like to paint or draw immediately as our favorite artists. I can copy a drawing of a face drawn by Leonardo Da Vinci and it looks impressive but that doesn't mean i can do the same from real life because copying you only need to focus 1 or 2 things, while creating from life or memory is like juggling several balls at the same time. First i don't think you need to do something challenging and hard all the time, the practise is already pushing you, the enjoyment is there to get you to do more volume imo. I have easier projects and moderate or fairly hard ones. I would say drawing or painting from nature you are bound to learn something and i would put that in the moderate or hard category depending on subject and scope. So my advice to you to try out things and find something that is appropriate to your skill level, don't despise doing simple stuff like drawing a cup, making a watercolor card, cutting a fruit in two and try to recreate form, texture and color. I copy pen and ink drawings of old boats, planes, it's meditative. Draw something from memory look at a picture, redraw, repeat until pleased by the 'design'. Recreating pen and ink drawings with obvious for middle and background. Go outside and sketch or paint something with a small book. But even doing all that i have another thing i found helpfull to keep a positive mindset and find the nugget of gold in every experience. I have a training book where i just put down what i did that day and complete a list of questions: 1) What did you do right? 2) What could you learn from this? 3) What could you be proud of? 4) Where might this lesson be useful in the future? 5) What is the truly human side? 6) What is actually funny about the incident? 7) How could this inspire you? 8) How could this experience inspire someone else? 9) What little accomplishment could you celebrate? | 0 | 24,478 | 1.125 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id1aajq | id1dcdh | 1,655,710,362 | 1,655,713,117 | 16 | 17 | let your drawing be shit. if you wanna design cool stuff you gotta design stuff first. don't worry about whether it's good or bad just be proud of yourself that you designed something. | I could totally be off base here but it kind of sounds like you're struggling with perfectionism and the frustration involved with recognizing mistakes. I'm still a noob but I think this is just part of any skill based hobby that you're trying to improve at so at some level you just need to get used to being frustrated. That said, to deal with this I basically only drew with pen my first 6 months and started timing my drawings. I really enjoy drawing people so timed figure/gesture (croquis) sessions were a big part in developing my love for drawing. If u don't wanna follow along a video just draw whatever u wanted as much as you can in 5, 10, or even 30 mins and hold yourself accountable for stopping there. | 0 | 2,755 | 1.0625 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id1aajq | id103tl | 1,655,710,362 | 1,655,702,217 | 16 | 13 | let your drawing be shit. if you wanna design cool stuff you gotta design stuff first. don't worry about whether it's good or bad just be proud of yourself that you designed something. | I don't imagine that he's everybody's cup of tea. But if you need help stripping yourself of the expectations that are getting in your way, my legit best tip is to check out Steven Zapata on youtube and to draw along to some of his drawing meditations. Helped me a ton. | 1 | 8,145 | 1.230769 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id1aajq | id0q2z0 | 1,655,710,362 | 1,655,695,620 | 16 | 4 | let your drawing be shit. if you wanna design cool stuff you gotta design stuff first. don't worry about whether it's good or bad just be proud of yourself that you designed something. | It could be your critical brain stopping you sorta like what you said. You're critiquing problems too much as you work and is preventing you from having a good time and exploring. If you can practice shutting off the part that is telling you no and stop just a little bit, or turn on the part that says yes please go make something weird just to see what happens, you might be able to do more freewheeling. Just have to accept that many things will be blunders but picture them more as happy little trees as you crank away until some good things start to happen | 1 | 14,742 | 4 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id0wv4l | id1aajq | 1,655,699,925 | 1,655,710,362 | 1 | 16 | When trying to draw extra, are you drawing them from imagination? Or a few references which don't necessarily fit? | let your drawing be shit. if you wanna design cool stuff you gotta design stuff first. don't worry about whether it's good or bad just be proud of yourself that you designed something. | 0 | 10,437 | 16 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id28hrz | id1dcdh | 1,655,734,840 | 1,655,713,117 | 18 | 17 | Personally the joy comes from succeeding from time to time or making something pleasing in a reasonable timeframe. I can do simple things and enjoy them (probably nobody will see them) A second challenge is boredom. Sometimes i do end up doing something that take a serious investment but that comes out of smaller projects. I suppose everybody would like to paint or draw immediately as our favorite artists. I can copy a drawing of a face drawn by Leonardo Da Vinci and it looks impressive but that doesn't mean i can do the same from real life because copying you only need to focus 1 or 2 things, while creating from life or memory is like juggling several balls at the same time. First i don't think you need to do something challenging and hard all the time, the practise is already pushing you, the enjoyment is there to get you to do more volume imo. I have easier projects and moderate or fairly hard ones. I would say drawing or painting from nature you are bound to learn something and i would put that in the moderate or hard category depending on subject and scope. So my advice to you to try out things and find something that is appropriate to your skill level, don't despise doing simple stuff like drawing a cup, making a watercolor card, cutting a fruit in two and try to recreate form, texture and color. I copy pen and ink drawings of old boats, planes, it's meditative. Draw something from memory look at a picture, redraw, repeat until pleased by the 'design'. Recreating pen and ink drawings with obvious for middle and background. Go outside and sketch or paint something with a small book. But even doing all that i have another thing i found helpfull to keep a positive mindset and find the nugget of gold in every experience. I have a training book where i just put down what i did that day and complete a list of questions: 1) What did you do right? 2) What could you learn from this? 3) What could you be proud of? 4) Where might this lesson be useful in the future? 5) What is the truly human side? 6) What is actually funny about the incident? 7) How could this inspire you? 8) How could this experience inspire someone else? 9) What little accomplishment could you celebrate? | I could totally be off base here but it kind of sounds like you're struggling with perfectionism and the frustration involved with recognizing mistakes. I'm still a noob but I think this is just part of any skill based hobby that you're trying to improve at so at some level you just need to get used to being frustrated. That said, to deal with this I basically only drew with pen my first 6 months and started timing my drawings. I really enjoy drawing people so timed figure/gesture (croquis) sessions were a big part in developing my love for drawing. If u don't wanna follow along a video just draw whatever u wanted as much as you can in 5, 10, or even 30 mins and hold yourself accountable for stopping there. | 1 | 21,723 | 1.058824 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id28hrz | id103tl | 1,655,734,840 | 1,655,702,217 | 18 | 13 | Personally the joy comes from succeeding from time to time or making something pleasing in a reasonable timeframe. I can do simple things and enjoy them (probably nobody will see them) A second challenge is boredom. Sometimes i do end up doing something that take a serious investment but that comes out of smaller projects. I suppose everybody would like to paint or draw immediately as our favorite artists. I can copy a drawing of a face drawn by Leonardo Da Vinci and it looks impressive but that doesn't mean i can do the same from real life because copying you only need to focus 1 or 2 things, while creating from life or memory is like juggling several balls at the same time. First i don't think you need to do something challenging and hard all the time, the practise is already pushing you, the enjoyment is there to get you to do more volume imo. I have easier projects and moderate or fairly hard ones. I would say drawing or painting from nature you are bound to learn something and i would put that in the moderate or hard category depending on subject and scope. So my advice to you to try out things and find something that is appropriate to your skill level, don't despise doing simple stuff like drawing a cup, making a watercolor card, cutting a fruit in two and try to recreate form, texture and color. I copy pen and ink drawings of old boats, planes, it's meditative. Draw something from memory look at a picture, redraw, repeat until pleased by the 'design'. Recreating pen and ink drawings with obvious for middle and background. Go outside and sketch or paint something with a small book. But even doing all that i have another thing i found helpfull to keep a positive mindset and find the nugget of gold in every experience. I have a training book where i just put down what i did that day and complete a list of questions: 1) What did you do right? 2) What could you learn from this? 3) What could you be proud of? 4) Where might this lesson be useful in the future? 5) What is the truly human side? 6) What is actually funny about the incident? 7) How could this inspire you? 8) How could this experience inspire someone else? 9) What little accomplishment could you celebrate? | I don't imagine that he's everybody's cup of tea. But if you need help stripping yourself of the expectations that are getting in your way, my legit best tip is to check out Steven Zapata on youtube and to draw along to some of his drawing meditations. Helped me a ton. | 1 | 32,623 | 1.384615 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id1cq9f | id28hrz | 1,655,712,555 | 1,655,734,840 | 6 | 18 | Steven Zapata videos have helped me a lot with this ^^ Specially "the importance of joy in art" and his "drswing meditations" really... felt like took a weight off x) | Personally the joy comes from succeeding from time to time or making something pleasing in a reasonable timeframe. I can do simple things and enjoy them (probably nobody will see them) A second challenge is boredom. Sometimes i do end up doing something that take a serious investment but that comes out of smaller projects. I suppose everybody would like to paint or draw immediately as our favorite artists. I can copy a drawing of a face drawn by Leonardo Da Vinci and it looks impressive but that doesn't mean i can do the same from real life because copying you only need to focus 1 or 2 things, while creating from life or memory is like juggling several balls at the same time. First i don't think you need to do something challenging and hard all the time, the practise is already pushing you, the enjoyment is there to get you to do more volume imo. I have easier projects and moderate or fairly hard ones. I would say drawing or painting from nature you are bound to learn something and i would put that in the moderate or hard category depending on subject and scope. So my advice to you to try out things and find something that is appropriate to your skill level, don't despise doing simple stuff like drawing a cup, making a watercolor card, cutting a fruit in two and try to recreate form, texture and color. I copy pen and ink drawings of old boats, planes, it's meditative. Draw something from memory look at a picture, redraw, repeat until pleased by the 'design'. Recreating pen and ink drawings with obvious for middle and background. Go outside and sketch or paint something with a small book. But even doing all that i have another thing i found helpfull to keep a positive mindset and find the nugget of gold in every experience. I have a training book where i just put down what i did that day and complete a list of questions: 1) What did you do right? 2) What could you learn from this? 3) What could you be proud of? 4) Where might this lesson be useful in the future? 5) What is the truly human side? 6) What is actually funny about the incident? 7) How could this inspire you? 8) How could this experience inspire someone else? 9) What little accomplishment could you celebrate? | 0 | 22,285 | 3 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id28hrz | id24vmw | 1,655,734,840 | 1,655,733,073 | 18 | 4 | Personally the joy comes from succeeding from time to time or making something pleasing in a reasonable timeframe. I can do simple things and enjoy them (probably nobody will see them) A second challenge is boredom. Sometimes i do end up doing something that take a serious investment but that comes out of smaller projects. I suppose everybody would like to paint or draw immediately as our favorite artists. I can copy a drawing of a face drawn by Leonardo Da Vinci and it looks impressive but that doesn't mean i can do the same from real life because copying you only need to focus 1 or 2 things, while creating from life or memory is like juggling several balls at the same time. First i don't think you need to do something challenging and hard all the time, the practise is already pushing you, the enjoyment is there to get you to do more volume imo. I have easier projects and moderate or fairly hard ones. I would say drawing or painting from nature you are bound to learn something and i would put that in the moderate or hard category depending on subject and scope. So my advice to you to try out things and find something that is appropriate to your skill level, don't despise doing simple stuff like drawing a cup, making a watercolor card, cutting a fruit in two and try to recreate form, texture and color. I copy pen and ink drawings of old boats, planes, it's meditative. Draw something from memory look at a picture, redraw, repeat until pleased by the 'design'. Recreating pen and ink drawings with obvious for middle and background. Go outside and sketch or paint something with a small book. But even doing all that i have another thing i found helpfull to keep a positive mindset and find the nugget of gold in every experience. I have a training book where i just put down what i did that day and complete a list of questions: 1) What did you do right? 2) What could you learn from this? 3) What could you be proud of? 4) Where might this lesson be useful in the future? 5) What is the truly human side? 6) What is actually funny about the incident? 7) How could this inspire you? 8) How could this experience inspire someone else? 9) What little accomplishment could you celebrate? | Try relying on references more - look up photos that can assist you with drawing your idea. For example, I look up emotions references and draw my favorite characters expressing them | 1 | 1,767 | 4.5 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id28hrz | id0q2z0 | 1,655,734,840 | 1,655,695,620 | 18 | 4 | Personally the joy comes from succeeding from time to time or making something pleasing in a reasonable timeframe. I can do simple things and enjoy them (probably nobody will see them) A second challenge is boredom. Sometimes i do end up doing something that take a serious investment but that comes out of smaller projects. I suppose everybody would like to paint or draw immediately as our favorite artists. I can copy a drawing of a face drawn by Leonardo Da Vinci and it looks impressive but that doesn't mean i can do the same from real life because copying you only need to focus 1 or 2 things, while creating from life or memory is like juggling several balls at the same time. First i don't think you need to do something challenging and hard all the time, the practise is already pushing you, the enjoyment is there to get you to do more volume imo. I have easier projects and moderate or fairly hard ones. I would say drawing or painting from nature you are bound to learn something and i would put that in the moderate or hard category depending on subject and scope. So my advice to you to try out things and find something that is appropriate to your skill level, don't despise doing simple stuff like drawing a cup, making a watercolor card, cutting a fruit in two and try to recreate form, texture and color. I copy pen and ink drawings of old boats, planes, it's meditative. Draw something from memory look at a picture, redraw, repeat until pleased by the 'design'. Recreating pen and ink drawings with obvious for middle and background. Go outside and sketch or paint something with a small book. But even doing all that i have another thing i found helpfull to keep a positive mindset and find the nugget of gold in every experience. I have a training book where i just put down what i did that day and complete a list of questions: 1) What did you do right? 2) What could you learn from this? 3) What could you be proud of? 4) Where might this lesson be useful in the future? 5) What is the truly human side? 6) What is actually funny about the incident? 7) How could this inspire you? 8) How could this experience inspire someone else? 9) What little accomplishment could you celebrate? | It could be your critical brain stopping you sorta like what you said. You're critiquing problems too much as you work and is preventing you from having a good time and exploring. If you can practice shutting off the part that is telling you no and stop just a little bit, or turn on the part that says yes please go make something weird just to see what happens, you might be able to do more freewheeling. Just have to accept that many things will be blunders but picture them more as happy little trees as you crank away until some good things start to happen | 1 | 39,220 | 4.5 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id0wv4l | id28hrz | 1,655,699,925 | 1,655,734,840 | 1 | 18 | When trying to draw extra, are you drawing them from imagination? Or a few references which don't necessarily fit? | Personally the joy comes from succeeding from time to time or making something pleasing in a reasonable timeframe. I can do simple things and enjoy them (probably nobody will see them) A second challenge is boredom. Sometimes i do end up doing something that take a serious investment but that comes out of smaller projects. I suppose everybody would like to paint or draw immediately as our favorite artists. I can copy a drawing of a face drawn by Leonardo Da Vinci and it looks impressive but that doesn't mean i can do the same from real life because copying you only need to focus 1 or 2 things, while creating from life or memory is like juggling several balls at the same time. First i don't think you need to do something challenging and hard all the time, the practise is already pushing you, the enjoyment is there to get you to do more volume imo. I have easier projects and moderate or fairly hard ones. I would say drawing or painting from nature you are bound to learn something and i would put that in the moderate or hard category depending on subject and scope. So my advice to you to try out things and find something that is appropriate to your skill level, don't despise doing simple stuff like drawing a cup, making a watercolor card, cutting a fruit in two and try to recreate form, texture and color. I copy pen and ink drawings of old boats, planes, it's meditative. Draw something from memory look at a picture, redraw, repeat until pleased by the 'design'. Recreating pen and ink drawings with obvious for middle and background. Go outside and sketch or paint something with a small book. But even doing all that i have another thing i found helpfull to keep a positive mindset and find the nugget of gold in every experience. I have a training book where i just put down what i did that day and complete a list of questions: 1) What did you do right? 2) What could you learn from this? 3) What could you be proud of? 4) Where might this lesson be useful in the future? 5) What is the truly human side? 6) What is actually funny about the incident? 7) How could this inspire you? 8) How could this experience inspire someone else? 9) What little accomplishment could you celebrate? | 0 | 34,915 | 18 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id1dcdh | id103tl | 1,655,713,117 | 1,655,702,217 | 17 | 13 | I could totally be off base here but it kind of sounds like you're struggling with perfectionism and the frustration involved with recognizing mistakes. I'm still a noob but I think this is just part of any skill based hobby that you're trying to improve at so at some level you just need to get used to being frustrated. That said, to deal with this I basically only drew with pen my first 6 months and started timing my drawings. I really enjoy drawing people so timed figure/gesture (croquis) sessions were a big part in developing my love for drawing. If u don't wanna follow along a video just draw whatever u wanted as much as you can in 5, 10, or even 30 mins and hold yourself accountable for stopping there. | I don't imagine that he's everybody's cup of tea. But if you need help stripping yourself of the expectations that are getting in your way, my legit best tip is to check out Steven Zapata on youtube and to draw along to some of his drawing meditations. Helped me a ton. | 1 | 10,900 | 1.307692 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id1cq9f | id1dcdh | 1,655,712,555 | 1,655,713,117 | 6 | 17 | Steven Zapata videos have helped me a lot with this ^^ Specially "the importance of joy in art" and his "drswing meditations" really... felt like took a weight off x) | I could totally be off base here but it kind of sounds like you're struggling with perfectionism and the frustration involved with recognizing mistakes. I'm still a noob but I think this is just part of any skill based hobby that you're trying to improve at so at some level you just need to get used to being frustrated. That said, to deal with this I basically only drew with pen my first 6 months and started timing my drawings. I really enjoy drawing people so timed figure/gesture (croquis) sessions were a big part in developing my love for drawing. If u don't wanna follow along a video just draw whatever u wanted as much as you can in 5, 10, or even 30 mins and hold yourself accountable for stopping there. | 0 | 562 | 2.833333 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id0q2z0 | id1dcdh | 1,655,695,620 | 1,655,713,117 | 4 | 17 | It could be your critical brain stopping you sorta like what you said. You're critiquing problems too much as you work and is preventing you from having a good time and exploring. If you can practice shutting off the part that is telling you no and stop just a little bit, or turn on the part that says yes please go make something weird just to see what happens, you might be able to do more freewheeling. Just have to accept that many things will be blunders but picture them more as happy little trees as you crank away until some good things start to happen | I could totally be off base here but it kind of sounds like you're struggling with perfectionism and the frustration involved with recognizing mistakes. I'm still a noob but I think this is just part of any skill based hobby that you're trying to improve at so at some level you just need to get used to being frustrated. That said, to deal with this I basically only drew with pen my first 6 months and started timing my drawings. I really enjoy drawing people so timed figure/gesture (croquis) sessions were a big part in developing my love for drawing. If u don't wanna follow along a video just draw whatever u wanted as much as you can in 5, 10, or even 30 mins and hold yourself accountable for stopping there. | 0 | 17,497 | 4.25 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id1dcdh | id0wv4l | 1,655,713,117 | 1,655,699,925 | 17 | 1 | I could totally be off base here but it kind of sounds like you're struggling with perfectionism and the frustration involved with recognizing mistakes. I'm still a noob but I think this is just part of any skill based hobby that you're trying to improve at so at some level you just need to get used to being frustrated. That said, to deal with this I basically only drew with pen my first 6 months and started timing my drawings. I really enjoy drawing people so timed figure/gesture (croquis) sessions were a big part in developing my love for drawing. If u don't wanna follow along a video just draw whatever u wanted as much as you can in 5, 10, or even 30 mins and hold yourself accountable for stopping there. | When trying to draw extra, are you drawing them from imagination? Or a few references which don't necessarily fit? | 1 | 13,192 | 17 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id103tl | id0q2z0 | 1,655,702,217 | 1,655,695,620 | 13 | 4 | I don't imagine that he's everybody's cup of tea. But if you need help stripping yourself of the expectations that are getting in your way, my legit best tip is to check out Steven Zapata on youtube and to draw along to some of his drawing meditations. Helped me a ton. | It could be your critical brain stopping you sorta like what you said. You're critiquing problems too much as you work and is preventing you from having a good time and exploring. If you can practice shutting off the part that is telling you no and stop just a little bit, or turn on the part that says yes please go make something weird just to see what happens, you might be able to do more freewheeling. Just have to accept that many things will be blunders but picture them more as happy little trees as you crank away until some good things start to happen | 1 | 6,597 | 3.25 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id103tl | id0wv4l | 1,655,702,217 | 1,655,699,925 | 13 | 1 | I don't imagine that he's everybody's cup of tea. But if you need help stripping yourself of the expectations that are getting in your way, my legit best tip is to check out Steven Zapata on youtube and to draw along to some of his drawing meditations. Helped me a ton. | When trying to draw extra, are you drawing them from imagination? Or a few references which don't necessarily fit? | 1 | 2,292 | 13 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id3sj2h | id1cq9f | 1,655,759,313 | 1,655,712,555 | 7 | 6 | You should probably work on a couple minute figure drawings, in 30 mins once you get it down you could probably be doing 20 of them. I'm not sure if you're under the impression that learning to draw happens overnight but you need to start somewhere. And always use references you're only stunting your own progress if you don't. You should have a reference of the character a style of the clothing and pose etc. Then combine them. | Steven Zapata videos have helped me a lot with this ^^ Specially "the importance of joy in art" and his "drswing meditations" really... felt like took a weight off x) | 1 | 46,758 | 1.166667 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id0q2z0 | id1cq9f | 1,655,695,620 | 1,655,712,555 | 4 | 6 | It could be your critical brain stopping you sorta like what you said. You're critiquing problems too much as you work and is preventing you from having a good time and exploring. If you can practice shutting off the part that is telling you no and stop just a little bit, or turn on the part that says yes please go make something weird just to see what happens, you might be able to do more freewheeling. Just have to accept that many things will be blunders but picture them more as happy little trees as you crank away until some good things start to happen | Steven Zapata videos have helped me a lot with this ^^ Specially "the importance of joy in art" and his "drswing meditations" really... felt like took a weight off x) | 0 | 16,935 | 1.5 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id0wv4l | id1cq9f | 1,655,699,925 | 1,655,712,555 | 1 | 6 | When trying to draw extra, are you drawing them from imagination? Or a few references which don't necessarily fit? | Steven Zapata videos have helped me a lot with this ^^ Specially "the importance of joy in art" and his "drswing meditations" really... felt like took a weight off x) | 0 | 12,630 | 6 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id24vmw | id3sj2h | 1,655,733,073 | 1,655,759,313 | 4 | 7 | Try relying on references more - look up photos that can assist you with drawing your idea. For example, I look up emotions references and draw my favorite characters expressing them | You should probably work on a couple minute figure drawings, in 30 mins once you get it down you could probably be doing 20 of them. I'm not sure if you're under the impression that learning to draw happens overnight but you need to start somewhere. And always use references you're only stunting your own progress if you don't. You should have a reference of the character a style of the clothing and pose etc. Then combine them. | 0 | 26,240 | 1.75 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id3sj2h | id0q2z0 | 1,655,759,313 | 1,655,695,620 | 7 | 4 | You should probably work on a couple minute figure drawings, in 30 mins once you get it down you could probably be doing 20 of them. I'm not sure if you're under the impression that learning to draw happens overnight but you need to start somewhere. And always use references you're only stunting your own progress if you don't. You should have a reference of the character a style of the clothing and pose etc. Then combine them. | It could be your critical brain stopping you sorta like what you said. You're critiquing problems too much as you work and is preventing you from having a good time and exploring. If you can practice shutting off the part that is telling you no and stop just a little bit, or turn on the part that says yes please go make something weird just to see what happens, you might be able to do more freewheeling. Just have to accept that many things will be blunders but picture them more as happy little trees as you crank away until some good things start to happen | 1 | 63,693 | 1.75 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id0wv4l | id3sj2h | 1,655,699,925 | 1,655,759,313 | 1 | 7 | When trying to draw extra, are you drawing them from imagination? Or a few references which don't necessarily fit? | You should probably work on a couple minute figure drawings, in 30 mins once you get it down you could probably be doing 20 of them. I'm not sure if you're under the impression that learning to draw happens overnight but you need to start somewhere. And always use references you're only stunting your own progress if you don't. You should have a reference of the character a style of the clothing and pose etc. Then combine them. | 0 | 59,388 | 7 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id0wv4l | id24vmw | 1,655,699,925 | 1,655,733,073 | 1 | 4 | When trying to draw extra, are you drawing them from imagination? Or a few references which don't necessarily fit? | Try relying on references more - look up photos that can assist you with drawing your idea. For example, I look up emotions references and draw my favorite characters expressing them | 0 | 33,148 | 4 | ||
vgbieq | artfundamentals_train | 0.95 | Im struggling with 50% rule. I know its important to go outside of studying and do stuff for fun but i cant seem to do it. I try at least for 30 minutes before getting frustrated with the end result or how its looking as im drawing it and thats when i go back to doing D.A.B exercise and other exercises. I currently have a goal of designing cool anime characters so thats one of the reasons im learning the fundamentals. I used to do copy drawing of scenes from my favorite animes or illustrations from my favorite twitter artists which went ok but i wanted to draw them either in different poses or different clothes or even adding new addition to them, and so i stopped there. And as far as drawing my own, i tried and i got stuck on the body/poses and that made it harder to attempt to finish it. To be clear i don't have a problem with drawing or motivation when it comes to drawing its just i get frustrated when i try to draw things that are out of my skill level at the moment and that leads me to not attempting it again until i master said skill. Does anyone have some advice on how to overcome this and how i can get out of that mind set that i need to grind and master things right now before i try to draw the things i want to draw? | id0wv4l | idw1irq | 1,655,699,925 | 1,656,301,903 | 1 | 4 | When trying to draw extra, are you drawing them from imagination? Or a few references which don't necessarily fit? | You mentioned copying. Something that people don't want to hear but it really helps is copying. Take one picture you like. Copy it 100 times. Copy it 1000 times. You'll find that you get so familiar with it that you can draw it with your eyes closed. You will also find that you get so familiar with it you can "do things" with it. Yes including varying the pose. Also varying proportions and perspectives to get cool effects and I don't mean digitally. I mean with pen/pencil and paper. Not only that if that picture has "items" in it. Bags, staff, sword whatever. Adding those to other pictures becomes childs play because they are now in your visual library. DRAW DRAW DRAW! | 0 | 601,978 | 4 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcr1dzd | hcr8vk2 | 1,631,573,797 | 1,631,577,332 | 17 | 24 | There is a story about a CEO of a small company asking one his graphic designers for a icon idea. The guy whipped it out in less than 1 minute. The CEO said, damn why I am paying xxx dollars if you could could do it in a flash? Graphic Designer, because it took me 15 years to be able to do that, that is why. You're buying my experience. You should be happy your sitting down and doing something, its more than most people who say they want to draw (or anything else) but don't do it. | I've said before and I'll say it again, art is compromise. What you imagine the result to be will always be different than reality. That's why you see artists who are very good complain about a piece you may never see a flaw in. Because what the released is "worse" than what they imagined it would look like. Another thing: You're developing a whole new set of skills. Half your practice time will be spent figuring out which muscle movements get you the closest to correct result. It may seem like drawing the 8 lines would be easy. But think about it. Have you ever did anything that used those muscles in that way before? Probably not. Your struggles are the same as everyone and the work you see posted are the best results out of piles of failed attempts. | 0 | 3,535 | 1.411765 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcqwlgv | hcr8vk2 | 1,631,571,570 | 1,631,577,332 | 10 | 24 | It's easy to see super talented people all around us and get incredibly inspired but also incredibly envious and discouraged, since they all seem so talented and perfect and we hate the fact that they're so good and we are not. I feel like we kind of forgot that EVERYTHING you want to LEARN takes time to actually learn. Absolutely nothing falls from the sky and is given to you. I know you probably heard this a million times before, but that's because it's true, you will suck at the beginning, you will be frustrated that you suck and the fact that you find enjoyment in something new will definitely pass and you will feel like you want to give up. You have to embrace these feelings and be ready to accept them, because if you don't, they will definitely overtake you and make you lose track of what's actually important, and that's getting better. Hang in there, it will be hard, you will be bad at drawing, since it really is NOT some sort a born talent. It is a skill just like any other and you have to practice for many thousands of hours to get decent at it. Best of luck! | I've said before and I'll say it again, art is compromise. What you imagine the result to be will always be different than reality. That's why you see artists who are very good complain about a piece you may never see a flaw in. Because what the released is "worse" than what they imagined it would look like. Another thing: You're developing a whole new set of skills. Half your practice time will be spent figuring out which muscle movements get you the closest to correct result. It may seem like drawing the 8 lines would be easy. But think about it. Have you ever did anything that used those muscles in that way before? Probably not. Your struggles are the same as everyone and the work you see posted are the best results out of piles of failed attempts. | 0 | 5,762 | 2.4 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcr8vk2 | hcr824g | 1,631,577,332 | 1,631,576,946 | 24 | 7 | I've said before and I'll say it again, art is compromise. What you imagine the result to be will always be different than reality. That's why you see artists who are very good complain about a piece you may never see a flaw in. Because what the released is "worse" than what they imagined it would look like. Another thing: You're developing a whole new set of skills. Half your practice time will be spent figuring out which muscle movements get you the closest to correct result. It may seem like drawing the 8 lines would be easy. But think about it. Have you ever did anything that used those muscles in that way before? Probably not. Your struggles are the same as everyone and the work you see posted are the best results out of piles of failed attempts. | I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too! | 1 | 386 | 3.428571 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcr8vk2 | hcqygl9 | 1,631,577,332 | 1,631,572,428 | 24 | 6 | I've said before and I'll say it again, art is compromise. What you imagine the result to be will always be different than reality. That's why you see artists who are very good complain about a piece you may never see a flaw in. Because what the released is "worse" than what they imagined it would look like. Another thing: You're developing a whole new set of skills. Half your practice time will be spent figuring out which muscle movements get you the closest to correct result. It may seem like drawing the 8 lines would be easy. But think about it. Have you ever did anything that used those muscles in that way before? Probably not. Your struggles are the same as everyone and the work you see posted are the best results out of piles of failed attempts. | had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself. | 1 | 4,904 | 4 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcr1dzd | hcsp0qd | 1,631,573,797 | 1,631,607,111 | 17 | 18 | There is a story about a CEO of a small company asking one his graphic designers for a icon idea. The guy whipped it out in less than 1 minute. The CEO said, damn why I am paying xxx dollars if you could could do it in a flash? Graphic Designer, because it took me 15 years to be able to do that, that is why. You're buying my experience. You should be happy your sitting down and doing something, its more than most people who say they want to draw (or anything else) but don't do it. | This is probably gonna sound really weird, but something I've found helpful is to basically not take Drawabox too seriously. Or rather, to take the exercises and instructions seriously and put dedication towards completing the exercises, but ultimately to also remember that Drawabox does not promise me that I'll become a great artist by the end of it. Ultimately, Drawabox is simply a way to build up a toolbox. It is not a rigorous course as you'd expect from a personalized, one-on-one apprenticeship programme. The point of Drawabox isn't to have you perform 250 drills and walk out an artistic Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's basically like an online tutorial that sits you down and tells you "This is a hammer. This part here is called the head, and this part is the handle. This is how you grab that hammer, and this is a good general swing for it. Every so often, the hammer head might start slipping from the handle, which is dangerous, as it could completely come off mid-swing and hurt someone or break something. In order to prevent that, this is what you should do when the head starts coming loose. When storing it, this is how you put it away in the toolbox so that it won't bang around or take up more space than is absolutely necessary." By the end of it, you won't know how to make a house, but you will know how to use and take care of a hammer, and as a result of learning that, you improve your ability to make houses. Similarly, by the end of Drawabox, you won't be SuperArtist, the superior artist with the superior art skills. You won't be able to suddenly draw all those things that you could never before. Your dragons will not suddenly become these magnificent super-detailed beasts that all fall before in awe. You won't be the next Steven Zapata simply because you completed the course. But the next time you draw a dragon, that dragon comes out a bit cleaner than before. The next time you sit down to draw, the image is just that bit closer to the one in your head. The next time you try to copy a reference image, it becomes just a bit easier, just a bit neater, just a bit faster. It's small gains, sure, but small gains add up. Small steps, if kept up, can cross countries, and when crossing countries on foot, simply knowing how to walk cuts down on travel time a lot. Ultimately, this is a ramble, but the big point of it all is this. Drawabox gives you tools and teaches you how to use them. It doesn't tell you how to make things with it, just how to use those tools. Obsessing over any one of them is like someone obsessing over a spanner, trying to get the perfect spanner, to use it the perfect way, etc. It's silly. It's not earthshaking, it's just a spanner. Don't wait until you've mastered it perfectly before you start using it, don't look at a bolt and go "man, I sure would love to use that there spanner I have. It's just too bad that my PhD dissertation on the perfect amount of force to use when twisting a nut with a spanner is still being peer reviewed, otherwise I'd have unbolted the shit out of this bolt". Pick up your spanner and go nuts—er, crazy. Trust me, that bolt will be off in a jiffy, and you can go on with your life. And hey, as a plus, you now have some extra evidence for your PhD in spanner-ology! If you ever find yourself obsessing over a Drawbox exercise or lesson, rip yourself out of it and do something else, and laugh at how silly you were being for being obsessed over a spanner. And don't use Drawabox as an excuse not to draw. It's a supplement, it won't give you those strong artist muscles if you don't work out your artistry. | 0 | 33,314 | 1.058824 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsoe1j | hcsp0qd | 1,631,606,527 | 1,631,607,111 | 17 | 18 | Accept the suck. Live it. Breathe it. Be one with the suck. That said, taking a break and coming back tomorrow is also good. | This is probably gonna sound really weird, but something I've found helpful is to basically not take Drawabox too seriously. Or rather, to take the exercises and instructions seriously and put dedication towards completing the exercises, but ultimately to also remember that Drawabox does not promise me that I'll become a great artist by the end of it. Ultimately, Drawabox is simply a way to build up a toolbox. It is not a rigorous course as you'd expect from a personalized, one-on-one apprenticeship programme. The point of Drawabox isn't to have you perform 250 drills and walk out an artistic Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's basically like an online tutorial that sits you down and tells you "This is a hammer. This part here is called the head, and this part is the handle. This is how you grab that hammer, and this is a good general swing for it. Every so often, the hammer head might start slipping from the handle, which is dangerous, as it could completely come off mid-swing and hurt someone or break something. In order to prevent that, this is what you should do when the head starts coming loose. When storing it, this is how you put it away in the toolbox so that it won't bang around or take up more space than is absolutely necessary." By the end of it, you won't know how to make a house, but you will know how to use and take care of a hammer, and as a result of learning that, you improve your ability to make houses. Similarly, by the end of Drawabox, you won't be SuperArtist, the superior artist with the superior art skills. You won't be able to suddenly draw all those things that you could never before. Your dragons will not suddenly become these magnificent super-detailed beasts that all fall before in awe. You won't be the next Steven Zapata simply because you completed the course. But the next time you draw a dragon, that dragon comes out a bit cleaner than before. The next time you sit down to draw, the image is just that bit closer to the one in your head. The next time you try to copy a reference image, it becomes just a bit easier, just a bit neater, just a bit faster. It's small gains, sure, but small gains add up. Small steps, if kept up, can cross countries, and when crossing countries on foot, simply knowing how to walk cuts down on travel time a lot. Ultimately, this is a ramble, but the big point of it all is this. Drawabox gives you tools and teaches you how to use them. It doesn't tell you how to make things with it, just how to use those tools. Obsessing over any one of them is like someone obsessing over a spanner, trying to get the perfect spanner, to use it the perfect way, etc. It's silly. It's not earthshaking, it's just a spanner. Don't wait until you've mastered it perfectly before you start using it, don't look at a bolt and go "man, I sure would love to use that there spanner I have. It's just too bad that my PhD dissertation on the perfect amount of force to use when twisting a nut with a spanner is still being peer reviewed, otherwise I'd have unbolted the shit out of this bolt". Pick up your spanner and go nuts—er, crazy. Trust me, that bolt will be off in a jiffy, and you can go on with your life. And hey, as a plus, you now have some extra evidence for your PhD in spanner-ology! If you ever find yourself obsessing over a Drawbox exercise or lesson, rip yourself out of it and do something else, and laugh at how silly you were being for being obsessed over a spanner. And don't use Drawabox as an excuse not to draw. It's a supplement, it won't give you those strong artist muscles if you don't work out your artistry. | 0 | 584 | 1.058824 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcrnmy0 | hcsp0qd | 1,631,584,097 | 1,631,607,111 | 15 | 18 | Remember that as a complete beginner, it isn’t going to come out perfect the first time. Or the tenth, or even the hundredth. They will get better over time, if you do it daily and don’t agonize! Lesson one is essentially warm ups for when you get to drawing what you want to later. The biggest thing is to think about the lines you make. As for drawing from your shoulder, that too can be hard to get used to. It’s an odd way to use your arm if you don’t usually draw. Again, as long as you are aware of it and check yourself every five-ten minutes, you will adjust and it will become more natural. The biggest thing is don’t beat yourself up over something not coming out just right. Instead, keep everything, keep with the lessons and look back on what you did today in ten days, then in twenty. There will be small changes and improvements, and you’ll notice you don’t have to check your arm as often. Drawing is an over-time skill! Not something you can properly develop in a short amount of cramming! | This is probably gonna sound really weird, but something I've found helpful is to basically not take Drawabox too seriously. Or rather, to take the exercises and instructions seriously and put dedication towards completing the exercises, but ultimately to also remember that Drawabox does not promise me that I'll become a great artist by the end of it. Ultimately, Drawabox is simply a way to build up a toolbox. It is not a rigorous course as you'd expect from a personalized, one-on-one apprenticeship programme. The point of Drawabox isn't to have you perform 250 drills and walk out an artistic Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's basically like an online tutorial that sits you down and tells you "This is a hammer. This part here is called the head, and this part is the handle. This is how you grab that hammer, and this is a good general swing for it. Every so often, the hammer head might start slipping from the handle, which is dangerous, as it could completely come off mid-swing and hurt someone or break something. In order to prevent that, this is what you should do when the head starts coming loose. When storing it, this is how you put it away in the toolbox so that it won't bang around or take up more space than is absolutely necessary." By the end of it, you won't know how to make a house, but you will know how to use and take care of a hammer, and as a result of learning that, you improve your ability to make houses. Similarly, by the end of Drawabox, you won't be SuperArtist, the superior artist with the superior art skills. You won't be able to suddenly draw all those things that you could never before. Your dragons will not suddenly become these magnificent super-detailed beasts that all fall before in awe. You won't be the next Steven Zapata simply because you completed the course. But the next time you draw a dragon, that dragon comes out a bit cleaner than before. The next time you sit down to draw, the image is just that bit closer to the one in your head. The next time you try to copy a reference image, it becomes just a bit easier, just a bit neater, just a bit faster. It's small gains, sure, but small gains add up. Small steps, if kept up, can cross countries, and when crossing countries on foot, simply knowing how to walk cuts down on travel time a lot. Ultimately, this is a ramble, but the big point of it all is this. Drawabox gives you tools and teaches you how to use them. It doesn't tell you how to make things with it, just how to use those tools. Obsessing over any one of them is like someone obsessing over a spanner, trying to get the perfect spanner, to use it the perfect way, etc. It's silly. It's not earthshaking, it's just a spanner. Don't wait until you've mastered it perfectly before you start using it, don't look at a bolt and go "man, I sure would love to use that there spanner I have. It's just too bad that my PhD dissertation on the perfect amount of force to use when twisting a nut with a spanner is still being peer reviewed, otherwise I'd have unbolted the shit out of this bolt". Pick up your spanner and go nuts—er, crazy. Trust me, that bolt will be off in a jiffy, and you can go on with your life. And hey, as a plus, you now have some extra evidence for your PhD in spanner-ology! If you ever find yourself obsessing over a Drawbox exercise or lesson, rip yourself out of it and do something else, and laugh at how silly you were being for being obsessed over a spanner. And don't use Drawabox as an excuse not to draw. It's a supplement, it won't give you those strong artist muscles if you don't work out your artistry. | 0 | 23,014 | 1.2 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsp0qd | hcrcg1u | 1,631,607,111 | 1,631,578,996 | 18 | 11 | This is probably gonna sound really weird, but something I've found helpful is to basically not take Drawabox too seriously. Or rather, to take the exercises and instructions seriously and put dedication towards completing the exercises, but ultimately to also remember that Drawabox does not promise me that I'll become a great artist by the end of it. Ultimately, Drawabox is simply a way to build up a toolbox. It is not a rigorous course as you'd expect from a personalized, one-on-one apprenticeship programme. The point of Drawabox isn't to have you perform 250 drills and walk out an artistic Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's basically like an online tutorial that sits you down and tells you "This is a hammer. This part here is called the head, and this part is the handle. This is how you grab that hammer, and this is a good general swing for it. Every so often, the hammer head might start slipping from the handle, which is dangerous, as it could completely come off mid-swing and hurt someone or break something. In order to prevent that, this is what you should do when the head starts coming loose. When storing it, this is how you put it away in the toolbox so that it won't bang around or take up more space than is absolutely necessary." By the end of it, you won't know how to make a house, but you will know how to use and take care of a hammer, and as a result of learning that, you improve your ability to make houses. Similarly, by the end of Drawabox, you won't be SuperArtist, the superior artist with the superior art skills. You won't be able to suddenly draw all those things that you could never before. Your dragons will not suddenly become these magnificent super-detailed beasts that all fall before in awe. You won't be the next Steven Zapata simply because you completed the course. But the next time you draw a dragon, that dragon comes out a bit cleaner than before. The next time you sit down to draw, the image is just that bit closer to the one in your head. The next time you try to copy a reference image, it becomes just a bit easier, just a bit neater, just a bit faster. It's small gains, sure, but small gains add up. Small steps, if kept up, can cross countries, and when crossing countries on foot, simply knowing how to walk cuts down on travel time a lot. Ultimately, this is a ramble, but the big point of it all is this. Drawabox gives you tools and teaches you how to use them. It doesn't tell you how to make things with it, just how to use those tools. Obsessing over any one of them is like someone obsessing over a spanner, trying to get the perfect spanner, to use it the perfect way, etc. It's silly. It's not earthshaking, it's just a spanner. Don't wait until you've mastered it perfectly before you start using it, don't look at a bolt and go "man, I sure would love to use that there spanner I have. It's just too bad that my PhD dissertation on the perfect amount of force to use when twisting a nut with a spanner is still being peer reviewed, otherwise I'd have unbolted the shit out of this bolt". Pick up your spanner and go nuts—er, crazy. Trust me, that bolt will be off in a jiffy, and you can go on with your life. And hey, as a plus, you now have some extra evidence for your PhD in spanner-ology! If you ever find yourself obsessing over a Drawbox exercise or lesson, rip yourself out of it and do something else, and laugh at how silly you were being for being obsessed over a spanner. And don't use Drawabox as an excuse not to draw. It's a supplement, it won't give you those strong artist muscles if you don't work out your artistry. | I relate a lot to what you've typed, and because of that I wanted to share a video that's helped me understand that side of me better. I hope it helps! | 1 | 28,115 | 1.636364 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcqwlgv | hcsp0qd | 1,631,571,570 | 1,631,607,111 | 10 | 18 | It's easy to see super talented people all around us and get incredibly inspired but also incredibly envious and discouraged, since they all seem so talented and perfect and we hate the fact that they're so good and we are not. I feel like we kind of forgot that EVERYTHING you want to LEARN takes time to actually learn. Absolutely nothing falls from the sky and is given to you. I know you probably heard this a million times before, but that's because it's true, you will suck at the beginning, you will be frustrated that you suck and the fact that you find enjoyment in something new will definitely pass and you will feel like you want to give up. You have to embrace these feelings and be ready to accept them, because if you don't, they will definitely overtake you and make you lose track of what's actually important, and that's getting better. Hang in there, it will be hard, you will be bad at drawing, since it really is NOT some sort a born talent. It is a skill just like any other and you have to practice for many thousands of hours to get decent at it. Best of luck! | This is probably gonna sound really weird, but something I've found helpful is to basically not take Drawabox too seriously. Or rather, to take the exercises and instructions seriously and put dedication towards completing the exercises, but ultimately to also remember that Drawabox does not promise me that I'll become a great artist by the end of it. Ultimately, Drawabox is simply a way to build up a toolbox. It is not a rigorous course as you'd expect from a personalized, one-on-one apprenticeship programme. The point of Drawabox isn't to have you perform 250 drills and walk out an artistic Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's basically like an online tutorial that sits you down and tells you "This is a hammer. This part here is called the head, and this part is the handle. This is how you grab that hammer, and this is a good general swing for it. Every so often, the hammer head might start slipping from the handle, which is dangerous, as it could completely come off mid-swing and hurt someone or break something. In order to prevent that, this is what you should do when the head starts coming loose. When storing it, this is how you put it away in the toolbox so that it won't bang around or take up more space than is absolutely necessary." By the end of it, you won't know how to make a house, but you will know how to use and take care of a hammer, and as a result of learning that, you improve your ability to make houses. Similarly, by the end of Drawabox, you won't be SuperArtist, the superior artist with the superior art skills. You won't be able to suddenly draw all those things that you could never before. Your dragons will not suddenly become these magnificent super-detailed beasts that all fall before in awe. You won't be the next Steven Zapata simply because you completed the course. But the next time you draw a dragon, that dragon comes out a bit cleaner than before. The next time you sit down to draw, the image is just that bit closer to the one in your head. The next time you try to copy a reference image, it becomes just a bit easier, just a bit neater, just a bit faster. It's small gains, sure, but small gains add up. Small steps, if kept up, can cross countries, and when crossing countries on foot, simply knowing how to walk cuts down on travel time a lot. Ultimately, this is a ramble, but the big point of it all is this. Drawabox gives you tools and teaches you how to use them. It doesn't tell you how to make things with it, just how to use those tools. Obsessing over any one of them is like someone obsessing over a spanner, trying to get the perfect spanner, to use it the perfect way, etc. It's silly. It's not earthshaking, it's just a spanner. Don't wait until you've mastered it perfectly before you start using it, don't look at a bolt and go "man, I sure would love to use that there spanner I have. It's just too bad that my PhD dissertation on the perfect amount of force to use when twisting a nut with a spanner is still being peer reviewed, otherwise I'd have unbolted the shit out of this bolt". Pick up your spanner and go nuts—er, crazy. Trust me, that bolt will be off in a jiffy, and you can go on with your life. And hey, as a plus, you now have some extra evidence for your PhD in spanner-ology! If you ever find yourself obsessing over a Drawbox exercise or lesson, rip yourself out of it and do something else, and laugh at how silly you were being for being obsessed over a spanner. And don't use Drawabox as an excuse not to draw. It's a supplement, it won't give you those strong artist muscles if you don't work out your artistry. | 0 | 35,541 | 1.8 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsiwnw | hcsp0qd | 1,631,601,777 | 1,631,607,111 | 8 | 18 | Learn to love the process. You’ll hear that over and over and over again, but always keep it in mind. I remember one day I was drawing boxes and I made the first mark, and as soon as I started making the second line, I saw the entire box form in my head. I saw where the next lines had to go, I all but saw them physically drawn out on the paper. Ever since then, I’ve been chasing that high. Sometimes I get it again. Others I don’t. But I’m in it for the process now, 100%. | This is probably gonna sound really weird, but something I've found helpful is to basically not take Drawabox too seriously. Or rather, to take the exercises and instructions seriously and put dedication towards completing the exercises, but ultimately to also remember that Drawabox does not promise me that I'll become a great artist by the end of it. Ultimately, Drawabox is simply a way to build up a toolbox. It is not a rigorous course as you'd expect from a personalized, one-on-one apprenticeship programme. The point of Drawabox isn't to have you perform 250 drills and walk out an artistic Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's basically like an online tutorial that sits you down and tells you "This is a hammer. This part here is called the head, and this part is the handle. This is how you grab that hammer, and this is a good general swing for it. Every so often, the hammer head might start slipping from the handle, which is dangerous, as it could completely come off mid-swing and hurt someone or break something. In order to prevent that, this is what you should do when the head starts coming loose. When storing it, this is how you put it away in the toolbox so that it won't bang around or take up more space than is absolutely necessary." By the end of it, you won't know how to make a house, but you will know how to use and take care of a hammer, and as a result of learning that, you improve your ability to make houses. Similarly, by the end of Drawabox, you won't be SuperArtist, the superior artist with the superior art skills. You won't be able to suddenly draw all those things that you could never before. Your dragons will not suddenly become these magnificent super-detailed beasts that all fall before in awe. You won't be the next Steven Zapata simply because you completed the course. But the next time you draw a dragon, that dragon comes out a bit cleaner than before. The next time you sit down to draw, the image is just that bit closer to the one in your head. The next time you try to copy a reference image, it becomes just a bit easier, just a bit neater, just a bit faster. It's small gains, sure, but small gains add up. Small steps, if kept up, can cross countries, and when crossing countries on foot, simply knowing how to walk cuts down on travel time a lot. Ultimately, this is a ramble, but the big point of it all is this. Drawabox gives you tools and teaches you how to use them. It doesn't tell you how to make things with it, just how to use those tools. Obsessing over any one of them is like someone obsessing over a spanner, trying to get the perfect spanner, to use it the perfect way, etc. It's silly. It's not earthshaking, it's just a spanner. Don't wait until you've mastered it perfectly before you start using it, don't look at a bolt and go "man, I sure would love to use that there spanner I have. It's just too bad that my PhD dissertation on the perfect amount of force to use when twisting a nut with a spanner is still being peer reviewed, otherwise I'd have unbolted the shit out of this bolt". Pick up your spanner and go nuts—er, crazy. Trust me, that bolt will be off in a jiffy, and you can go on with your life. And hey, as a plus, you now have some extra evidence for your PhD in spanner-ology! If you ever find yourself obsessing over a Drawbox exercise or lesson, rip yourself out of it and do something else, and laugh at how silly you were being for being obsessed over a spanner. And don't use Drawabox as an excuse not to draw. It's a supplement, it won't give you those strong artist muscles if you don't work out your artistry. | 0 | 5,334 | 2.25 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsp0qd | hcr824g | 1,631,607,111 | 1,631,576,946 | 18 | 7 | This is probably gonna sound really weird, but something I've found helpful is to basically not take Drawabox too seriously. Or rather, to take the exercises and instructions seriously and put dedication towards completing the exercises, but ultimately to also remember that Drawabox does not promise me that I'll become a great artist by the end of it. Ultimately, Drawabox is simply a way to build up a toolbox. It is not a rigorous course as you'd expect from a personalized, one-on-one apprenticeship programme. The point of Drawabox isn't to have you perform 250 drills and walk out an artistic Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's basically like an online tutorial that sits you down and tells you "This is a hammer. This part here is called the head, and this part is the handle. This is how you grab that hammer, and this is a good general swing for it. Every so often, the hammer head might start slipping from the handle, which is dangerous, as it could completely come off mid-swing and hurt someone or break something. In order to prevent that, this is what you should do when the head starts coming loose. When storing it, this is how you put it away in the toolbox so that it won't bang around or take up more space than is absolutely necessary." By the end of it, you won't know how to make a house, but you will know how to use and take care of a hammer, and as a result of learning that, you improve your ability to make houses. Similarly, by the end of Drawabox, you won't be SuperArtist, the superior artist with the superior art skills. You won't be able to suddenly draw all those things that you could never before. Your dragons will not suddenly become these magnificent super-detailed beasts that all fall before in awe. You won't be the next Steven Zapata simply because you completed the course. But the next time you draw a dragon, that dragon comes out a bit cleaner than before. The next time you sit down to draw, the image is just that bit closer to the one in your head. The next time you try to copy a reference image, it becomes just a bit easier, just a bit neater, just a bit faster. It's small gains, sure, but small gains add up. Small steps, if kept up, can cross countries, and when crossing countries on foot, simply knowing how to walk cuts down on travel time a lot. Ultimately, this is a ramble, but the big point of it all is this. Drawabox gives you tools and teaches you how to use them. It doesn't tell you how to make things with it, just how to use those tools. Obsessing over any one of them is like someone obsessing over a spanner, trying to get the perfect spanner, to use it the perfect way, etc. It's silly. It's not earthshaking, it's just a spanner. Don't wait until you've mastered it perfectly before you start using it, don't look at a bolt and go "man, I sure would love to use that there spanner I have. It's just too bad that my PhD dissertation on the perfect amount of force to use when twisting a nut with a spanner is still being peer reviewed, otherwise I'd have unbolted the shit out of this bolt". Pick up your spanner and go nuts—er, crazy. Trust me, that bolt will be off in a jiffy, and you can go on with your life. And hey, as a plus, you now have some extra evidence for your PhD in spanner-ology! If you ever find yourself obsessing over a Drawbox exercise or lesson, rip yourself out of it and do something else, and laugh at how silly you were being for being obsessed over a spanner. And don't use Drawabox as an excuse not to draw. It's a supplement, it won't give you those strong artist muscles if you don't work out your artistry. | I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too! | 1 | 30,165 | 2.571429 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsp0qd | hcqygl9 | 1,631,607,111 | 1,631,572,428 | 18 | 6 | This is probably gonna sound really weird, but something I've found helpful is to basically not take Drawabox too seriously. Or rather, to take the exercises and instructions seriously and put dedication towards completing the exercises, but ultimately to also remember that Drawabox does not promise me that I'll become a great artist by the end of it. Ultimately, Drawabox is simply a way to build up a toolbox. It is not a rigorous course as you'd expect from a personalized, one-on-one apprenticeship programme. The point of Drawabox isn't to have you perform 250 drills and walk out an artistic Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's basically like an online tutorial that sits you down and tells you "This is a hammer. This part here is called the head, and this part is the handle. This is how you grab that hammer, and this is a good general swing for it. Every so often, the hammer head might start slipping from the handle, which is dangerous, as it could completely come off mid-swing and hurt someone or break something. In order to prevent that, this is what you should do when the head starts coming loose. When storing it, this is how you put it away in the toolbox so that it won't bang around or take up more space than is absolutely necessary." By the end of it, you won't know how to make a house, but you will know how to use and take care of a hammer, and as a result of learning that, you improve your ability to make houses. Similarly, by the end of Drawabox, you won't be SuperArtist, the superior artist with the superior art skills. You won't be able to suddenly draw all those things that you could never before. Your dragons will not suddenly become these magnificent super-detailed beasts that all fall before in awe. You won't be the next Steven Zapata simply because you completed the course. But the next time you draw a dragon, that dragon comes out a bit cleaner than before. The next time you sit down to draw, the image is just that bit closer to the one in your head. The next time you try to copy a reference image, it becomes just a bit easier, just a bit neater, just a bit faster. It's small gains, sure, but small gains add up. Small steps, if kept up, can cross countries, and when crossing countries on foot, simply knowing how to walk cuts down on travel time a lot. Ultimately, this is a ramble, but the big point of it all is this. Drawabox gives you tools and teaches you how to use them. It doesn't tell you how to make things with it, just how to use those tools. Obsessing over any one of them is like someone obsessing over a spanner, trying to get the perfect spanner, to use it the perfect way, etc. It's silly. It's not earthshaking, it's just a spanner. Don't wait until you've mastered it perfectly before you start using it, don't look at a bolt and go "man, I sure would love to use that there spanner I have. It's just too bad that my PhD dissertation on the perfect amount of force to use when twisting a nut with a spanner is still being peer reviewed, otherwise I'd have unbolted the shit out of this bolt". Pick up your spanner and go nuts—er, crazy. Trust me, that bolt will be off in a jiffy, and you can go on with your life. And hey, as a plus, you now have some extra evidence for your PhD in spanner-ology! If you ever find yourself obsessing over a Drawbox exercise or lesson, rip yourself out of it and do something else, and laugh at how silly you were being for being obsessed over a spanner. And don't use Drawabox as an excuse not to draw. It's a supplement, it won't give you those strong artist muscles if you don't work out your artistry. | had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself. | 1 | 34,683 | 3 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsniz0 | hcsp0qd | 1,631,605,731 | 1,631,607,111 | 3 | 18 | There’s different levels of struggle at every experience level because there’s always something to learn or relearn or to express. Try and understand that the struggle is part of the process and just keep going | This is probably gonna sound really weird, but something I've found helpful is to basically not take Drawabox too seriously. Or rather, to take the exercises and instructions seriously and put dedication towards completing the exercises, but ultimately to also remember that Drawabox does not promise me that I'll become a great artist by the end of it. Ultimately, Drawabox is simply a way to build up a toolbox. It is not a rigorous course as you'd expect from a personalized, one-on-one apprenticeship programme. The point of Drawabox isn't to have you perform 250 drills and walk out an artistic Arnold Schwarzenegger. It's basically like an online tutorial that sits you down and tells you "This is a hammer. This part here is called the head, and this part is the handle. This is how you grab that hammer, and this is a good general swing for it. Every so often, the hammer head might start slipping from the handle, which is dangerous, as it could completely come off mid-swing and hurt someone or break something. In order to prevent that, this is what you should do when the head starts coming loose. When storing it, this is how you put it away in the toolbox so that it won't bang around or take up more space than is absolutely necessary." By the end of it, you won't know how to make a house, but you will know how to use and take care of a hammer, and as a result of learning that, you improve your ability to make houses. Similarly, by the end of Drawabox, you won't be SuperArtist, the superior artist with the superior art skills. You won't be able to suddenly draw all those things that you could never before. Your dragons will not suddenly become these magnificent super-detailed beasts that all fall before in awe. You won't be the next Steven Zapata simply because you completed the course. But the next time you draw a dragon, that dragon comes out a bit cleaner than before. The next time you sit down to draw, the image is just that bit closer to the one in your head. The next time you try to copy a reference image, it becomes just a bit easier, just a bit neater, just a bit faster. It's small gains, sure, but small gains add up. Small steps, if kept up, can cross countries, and when crossing countries on foot, simply knowing how to walk cuts down on travel time a lot. Ultimately, this is a ramble, but the big point of it all is this. Drawabox gives you tools and teaches you how to use them. It doesn't tell you how to make things with it, just how to use those tools. Obsessing over any one of them is like someone obsessing over a spanner, trying to get the perfect spanner, to use it the perfect way, etc. It's silly. It's not earthshaking, it's just a spanner. Don't wait until you've mastered it perfectly before you start using it, don't look at a bolt and go "man, I sure would love to use that there spanner I have. It's just too bad that my PhD dissertation on the perfect amount of force to use when twisting a nut with a spanner is still being peer reviewed, otherwise I'd have unbolted the shit out of this bolt". Pick up your spanner and go nuts—er, crazy. Trust me, that bolt will be off in a jiffy, and you can go on with your life. And hey, as a plus, you now have some extra evidence for your PhD in spanner-ology! If you ever find yourself obsessing over a Drawbox exercise or lesson, rip yourself out of it and do something else, and laugh at how silly you were being for being obsessed over a spanner. And don't use Drawabox as an excuse not to draw. It's a supplement, it won't give you those strong artist muscles if you don't work out your artistry. | 0 | 1,380 | 6 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcr1dzd | hcthqmb | 1,631,573,797 | 1,631,627,023 | 17 | 18 | There is a story about a CEO of a small company asking one his graphic designers for a icon idea. The guy whipped it out in less than 1 minute. The CEO said, damn why I am paying xxx dollars if you could could do it in a flash? Graphic Designer, because it took me 15 years to be able to do that, that is why. You're buying my experience. You should be happy your sitting down and doing something, its more than most people who say they want to draw (or anything else) but don't do it. | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | 0 | 53,226 | 1.058824 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcqwlgv | hcr1dzd | 1,631,571,570 | 1,631,573,797 | 10 | 17 | It's easy to see super talented people all around us and get incredibly inspired but also incredibly envious and discouraged, since they all seem so talented and perfect and we hate the fact that they're so good and we are not. I feel like we kind of forgot that EVERYTHING you want to LEARN takes time to actually learn. Absolutely nothing falls from the sky and is given to you. I know you probably heard this a million times before, but that's because it's true, you will suck at the beginning, you will be frustrated that you suck and the fact that you find enjoyment in something new will definitely pass and you will feel like you want to give up. You have to embrace these feelings and be ready to accept them, because if you don't, they will definitely overtake you and make you lose track of what's actually important, and that's getting better. Hang in there, it will be hard, you will be bad at drawing, since it really is NOT some sort a born talent. It is a skill just like any other and you have to practice for many thousands of hours to get decent at it. Best of luck! | There is a story about a CEO of a small company asking one his graphic designers for a icon idea. The guy whipped it out in less than 1 minute. The CEO said, damn why I am paying xxx dollars if you could could do it in a flash? Graphic Designer, because it took me 15 years to be able to do that, that is why. You're buying my experience. You should be happy your sitting down and doing something, its more than most people who say they want to draw (or anything else) but don't do it. | 0 | 2,227 | 1.7 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcqygl9 | hcr1dzd | 1,631,572,428 | 1,631,573,797 | 6 | 17 | had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself. | There is a story about a CEO of a small company asking one his graphic designers for a icon idea. The guy whipped it out in less than 1 minute. The CEO said, damn why I am paying xxx dollars if you could could do it in a flash? Graphic Designer, because it took me 15 years to be able to do that, that is why. You're buying my experience. You should be happy your sitting down and doing something, its more than most people who say they want to draw (or anything else) but don't do it. | 0 | 1,369 | 2.833333 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcthqmb | hcsoe1j | 1,631,627,023 | 1,631,606,527 | 18 | 17 | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | Accept the suck. Live it. Breathe it. Be one with the suck. That said, taking a break and coming back tomorrow is also good. | 1 | 20,496 | 1.058824 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcthqmb | hcrnmy0 | 1,631,627,023 | 1,631,584,097 | 18 | 15 | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | Remember that as a complete beginner, it isn’t going to come out perfect the first time. Or the tenth, or even the hundredth. They will get better over time, if you do it daily and don’t agonize! Lesson one is essentially warm ups for when you get to drawing what you want to later. The biggest thing is to think about the lines you make. As for drawing from your shoulder, that too can be hard to get used to. It’s an odd way to use your arm if you don’t usually draw. Again, as long as you are aware of it and check yourself every five-ten minutes, you will adjust and it will become more natural. The biggest thing is don’t beat yourself up over something not coming out just right. Instead, keep everything, keep with the lessons and look back on what you did today in ten days, then in twenty. There will be small changes and improvements, and you’ll notice you don’t have to check your arm as often. Drawing is an over-time skill! Not something you can properly develop in a short amount of cramming! | 1 | 42,926 | 1.2 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcrcg1u | hcthqmb | 1,631,578,996 | 1,631,627,023 | 11 | 18 | I relate a lot to what you've typed, and because of that I wanted to share a video that's helped me understand that side of me better. I hope it helps! | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | 0 | 48,027 | 1.636364 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcqwlgv | hcthqmb | 1,631,571,570 | 1,631,627,023 | 10 | 18 | It's easy to see super talented people all around us and get incredibly inspired but also incredibly envious and discouraged, since they all seem so talented and perfect and we hate the fact that they're so good and we are not. I feel like we kind of forgot that EVERYTHING you want to LEARN takes time to actually learn. Absolutely nothing falls from the sky and is given to you. I know you probably heard this a million times before, but that's because it's true, you will suck at the beginning, you will be frustrated that you suck and the fact that you find enjoyment in something new will definitely pass and you will feel like you want to give up. You have to embrace these feelings and be ready to accept them, because if you don't, they will definitely overtake you and make you lose track of what's actually important, and that's getting better. Hang in there, it will be hard, you will be bad at drawing, since it really is NOT some sort a born talent. It is a skill just like any other and you have to practice for many thousands of hours to get decent at it. Best of luck! | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | 0 | 55,453 | 1.8 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsiwnw | hcthqmb | 1,631,601,777 | 1,631,627,023 | 8 | 18 | Learn to love the process. You’ll hear that over and over and over again, but always keep it in mind. I remember one day I was drawing boxes and I made the first mark, and as soon as I started making the second line, I saw the entire box form in my head. I saw where the next lines had to go, I all but saw them physically drawn out on the paper. Ever since then, I’ve been chasing that high. Sometimes I get it again. Others I don’t. But I’m in it for the process now, 100%. | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | 0 | 25,246 | 2.25 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcst5lu | hcthqmb | 1,631,611,044 | 1,631,627,023 | 10 | 18 | I am also a beginner, but the more you will draw, the more you will get acquainted with frustration. It's a feeling and it passes. Usually I am very frustrated doing drawabox, so I make sure I am mixing it up with breaks and free drawing (whatever I want). I also took to heart what Uncomfortable said, those excercises are not for being mastered. They just highlight your issues which will sort of improve the more you draw and the more you progress. | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | 0 | 15,979 | 1.8 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcr824g | hcthqmb | 1,631,576,946 | 1,631,627,023 | 7 | 18 | I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too! | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | 0 | 50,077 | 2.571429 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcqygl9 | hcthqmb | 1,631,572,428 | 1,631,627,023 | 6 | 18 | had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself. | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | 0 | 54,595 | 3 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcteth9 | hcthqmb | 1,631,625,654 | 1,631,627,023 | 6 | 18 | I'm a little farther than you--working on revisions of Lesson 3--and I've put dozens of hours into drawing between Drawabox and the 50% rule. And guess what: Dozens of hours isn't even close to enough to become competent. You need more like hundreds at the very least, probably thousands. If you're like me and you haven't drawn in 30 years, then we got a loooong way to go, so strap in and start producing crappy lines and crappy drawings. Enough of those and eventually you'll start to produce not-so-crappy work. | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | 0 | 1,369 | 3 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsniz0 | hcthqmb | 1,631,605,731 | 1,631,627,023 | 3 | 18 | There’s different levels of struggle at every experience level because there’s always something to learn or relearn or to express. Try and understand that the struggle is part of the process and just keep going | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | 0 | 21,292 | 6 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcthqmb | hcta85q | 1,631,627,023 | 1,631,623,328 | 18 | 3 | https://drawabox.com/comic/4 To me it was this comic from uncomfortable that made me think of my failure as something to accept and adore instead of hate. So whenever I felt upset wit my work and lines, i remember this and smile. | I like to challenge my weak emotional nature, so that the mind and will can prevail.
I suffer? I will repeat these lines over and over until I see progress, and then it will be possible to tell my weak side - 4 u, and then I, with the face of a winner, go to eat my sweets and play games and sleep peacefully. And so with every topic that I did not understand well or was poorly executed at the beginning. I don't quite understand? I will repeat watching the video over and over again (maybe from other artists too), because every time you understand what you are missed. I dearly loved all my stick figures, hairy lines and curved boxes, because without them I would not have progress. We all (without exception) were complete beginners, and the understanding that drawing is a skill, not a talent, and it takes years, does not come to everyone and not at once. Only those who understand this, will reconcile and continue the path, will go further. You can too =) | 1 | 3,695 | 6 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsoe1j | hcrnmy0 | 1,631,606,527 | 1,631,584,097 | 17 | 15 | Accept the suck. Live it. Breathe it. Be one with the suck. That said, taking a break and coming back tomorrow is also good. | Remember that as a complete beginner, it isn’t going to come out perfect the first time. Or the tenth, or even the hundredth. They will get better over time, if you do it daily and don’t agonize! Lesson one is essentially warm ups for when you get to drawing what you want to later. The biggest thing is to think about the lines you make. As for drawing from your shoulder, that too can be hard to get used to. It’s an odd way to use your arm if you don’t usually draw. Again, as long as you are aware of it and check yourself every five-ten minutes, you will adjust and it will become more natural. The biggest thing is don’t beat yourself up over something not coming out just right. Instead, keep everything, keep with the lessons and look back on what you did today in ten days, then in twenty. There will be small changes and improvements, and you’ll notice you don’t have to check your arm as often. Drawing is an over-time skill! Not something you can properly develop in a short amount of cramming! | 1 | 22,430 | 1.133333 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcrcg1u | hcsoe1j | 1,631,578,996 | 1,631,606,527 | 11 | 17 | I relate a lot to what you've typed, and because of that I wanted to share a video that's helped me understand that side of me better. I hope it helps! | Accept the suck. Live it. Breathe it. Be one with the suck. That said, taking a break and coming back tomorrow is also good. | 0 | 27,531 | 1.545455 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcqwlgv | hcsoe1j | 1,631,571,570 | 1,631,606,527 | 10 | 17 | It's easy to see super talented people all around us and get incredibly inspired but also incredibly envious and discouraged, since they all seem so talented and perfect and we hate the fact that they're so good and we are not. I feel like we kind of forgot that EVERYTHING you want to LEARN takes time to actually learn. Absolutely nothing falls from the sky and is given to you. I know you probably heard this a million times before, but that's because it's true, you will suck at the beginning, you will be frustrated that you suck and the fact that you find enjoyment in something new will definitely pass and you will feel like you want to give up. You have to embrace these feelings and be ready to accept them, because if you don't, they will definitely overtake you and make you lose track of what's actually important, and that's getting better. Hang in there, it will be hard, you will be bad at drawing, since it really is NOT some sort a born talent. It is a skill just like any other and you have to practice for many thousands of hours to get decent at it. Best of luck! | Accept the suck. Live it. Breathe it. Be one with the suck. That said, taking a break and coming back tomorrow is also good. | 0 | 34,957 | 1.7 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsiwnw | hcsoe1j | 1,631,601,777 | 1,631,606,527 | 8 | 17 | Learn to love the process. You’ll hear that over and over and over again, but always keep it in mind. I remember one day I was drawing boxes and I made the first mark, and as soon as I started making the second line, I saw the entire box form in my head. I saw where the next lines had to go, I all but saw them physically drawn out on the paper. Ever since then, I’ve been chasing that high. Sometimes I get it again. Others I don’t. But I’m in it for the process now, 100%. | Accept the suck. Live it. Breathe it. Be one with the suck. That said, taking a break and coming back tomorrow is also good. | 0 | 4,750 | 2.125 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcr824g | hcsoe1j | 1,631,576,946 | 1,631,606,527 | 7 | 17 | I had a mini breakdown last night because my ellipses weren't great... I went to bed and drew them much better than before lmao. I think in all honesty we're our own worst critics. We'll see amazing art pieces and forget that it's taken the artist many tears and many years to get to that place. Right now it's easier to see all the beautiful works, but the best we can do is keep on practicing, learn from our mistakes and try and talk with each other so we don't feel alone! I'm still learning, and I'm doubling up on learning to do figure drawing, but I hope one day I can make something I'm proud to show to my friends and family. I know you'll get there too! | Accept the suck. Live it. Breathe it. Be one with the suck. That said, taking a break and coming back tomorrow is also good. | 0 | 29,581 | 2.428571 | ||
pnkmuy | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | How did you cope with the struggle in the beginning? Last night I had a mental breakdown on the first lesson's exercise, whenever I drew the lines 8× I was making sure I was using my shoulder and whenever I couldn't I would get annoyed by myself thinking if I let it go then it will be a pain to fix that bad habit later, the ghosting was alright but I kept on missing my marked dots, I gave up on the box challenge since it completely missed the dots or they were just super bumpy and not smooth "flowed" lines. I relaxed and later felt like it was silly to get mad over lines, trying it today again I'll have my mind cleared and ignore the mistakes. what did you guys do to ignore the negativity if you were a complete beginner (like me) | hcsoe1j | hcqygl9 | 1,631,606,527 | 1,631,572,428 | 17 | 6 | Accept the suck. Live it. Breathe it. Be one with the suck. That said, taking a break and coming back tomorrow is also good. | had the same problem the first time around. This is my third attempt at starting, finally got done with the Lines exercise -completely- for the first time without losing complete confidence or patience. Honestly, just keep trying. That first hump you go over will feel that much more gratifying. Like he said in the videos: be patient, be kind to yourself. | 1 | 34,099 | 2.833333 |
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