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loaw7o | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Is drawabox right for me? I want to start a structured drawing program, but im not sure drawabox is what I need. Ive linked my first 3 drawings as an adult, I havnt drawn since elementary school until recently. I feel like I've got a pretty steady hand and that my construction skills are maybe half as good as an actually skilled artist. Im having a hard time convincing myself to commit such an enormous amount of time into learning what appears to basically be just construction. I see a lot of people swear by Drawabox, but maybe its not what I need? http://imgur.com/gallery/pxVzcWe | go59nho | go5zns0 | 1,613,847,674 | 1,613,861,061 | -11 | 7 | Try skipping over 0-2 of 'The Basics', and looking at the dynamic sketching portion of the lessons. Those lessons really are very basic for anyone with any background in art. Lesson 2 was pretty nice imo, but The Basics didn't teach me anything I didn't learn in art classes from back in High School, and in my experience, you don't just lose that knowledge either. This place is some weird cult, I guess. The Basics section is taught in schools. Why would you redo that just to satisfy some fundamentals program? What a fucking joke. | Honestly, if you want a regimented program I’ve got one for you right here and it’s free: it’s called Draw Every Day. And make sure you have fun with it. If you do those two things you’ll keep pushing yourself and investing yourself in your craft. Try new styles, try new techniques, try all the programs, just be hungry. | 0 | 13,387 | -0.636364 | ||
loaw7o | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Is drawabox right for me? I want to start a structured drawing program, but im not sure drawabox is what I need. Ive linked my first 3 drawings as an adult, I havnt drawn since elementary school until recently. I feel like I've got a pretty steady hand and that my construction skills are maybe half as good as an actually skilled artist. Im having a hard time convincing myself to commit such an enormous amount of time into learning what appears to basically be just construction. I see a lot of people swear by Drawabox, but maybe its not what I need? http://imgur.com/gallery/pxVzcWe | go7o47k | go59q8m | 1,613,900,110 | 1,613,847,712 | 5 | 3 | You may want to try it and see if it's good for you. Your drawings aren't bad but they look very flat like somebody else mentioned. I think drawabox would help you understand shape and form better. | Do lesson 0 and see if it delivers on what you feel you want out of a structured course. Lesson 0 does a good job explaining how the course works and what to expect. | 1 | 52,398 | 1.666667 | ||
loaw7o | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Is drawabox right for me? I want to start a structured drawing program, but im not sure drawabox is what I need. Ive linked my first 3 drawings as an adult, I havnt drawn since elementary school until recently. I feel like I've got a pretty steady hand and that my construction skills are maybe half as good as an actually skilled artist. Im having a hard time convincing myself to commit such an enormous amount of time into learning what appears to basically be just construction. I see a lot of people swear by Drawabox, but maybe its not what I need? http://imgur.com/gallery/pxVzcWe | go7jy3g | go7o47k | 1,613,896,090 | 1,613,900,110 | 3 | 5 | I think the skills taught and practiced in drawabox, like being able to rotate shapes in space and draw them from any angle, and how to understand shadow and texture, would make these decent drawings really pop. | You may want to try it and see if it's good for you. Your drawings aren't bad but they look very flat like somebody else mentioned. I think drawabox would help you understand shape and form better. | 0 | 4,020 | 1.666667 | ||
loaw7o | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Is drawabox right for me? I want to start a structured drawing program, but im not sure drawabox is what I need. Ive linked my first 3 drawings as an adult, I havnt drawn since elementary school until recently. I feel like I've got a pretty steady hand and that my construction skills are maybe half as good as an actually skilled artist. Im having a hard time convincing myself to commit such an enormous amount of time into learning what appears to basically be just construction. I see a lot of people swear by Drawabox, but maybe its not what I need? http://imgur.com/gallery/pxVzcWe | go59nho | go7o47k | 1,613,847,674 | 1,613,900,110 | -11 | 5 | Try skipping over 0-2 of 'The Basics', and looking at the dynamic sketching portion of the lessons. Those lessons really are very basic for anyone with any background in art. Lesson 2 was pretty nice imo, but The Basics didn't teach me anything I didn't learn in art classes from back in High School, and in my experience, you don't just lose that knowledge either. This place is some weird cult, I guess. The Basics section is taught in schools. Why would you redo that just to satisfy some fundamentals program? What a fucking joke. | You may want to try it and see if it's good for you. Your drawings aren't bad but they look very flat like somebody else mentioned. I think drawabox would help you understand shape and form better. | 0 | 52,436 | -0.454545 | ||
loaw7o | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Is drawabox right for me? I want to start a structured drawing program, but im not sure drawabox is what I need. Ive linked my first 3 drawings as an adult, I havnt drawn since elementary school until recently. I feel like I've got a pretty steady hand and that my construction skills are maybe half as good as an actually skilled artist. Im having a hard time convincing myself to commit such an enormous amount of time into learning what appears to basically be just construction. I see a lot of people swear by Drawabox, but maybe its not what I need? http://imgur.com/gallery/pxVzcWe | go59nho | go59q8m | 1,613,847,674 | 1,613,847,712 | -11 | 3 | Try skipping over 0-2 of 'The Basics', and looking at the dynamic sketching portion of the lessons. Those lessons really are very basic for anyone with any background in art. Lesson 2 was pretty nice imo, but The Basics didn't teach me anything I didn't learn in art classes from back in High School, and in my experience, you don't just lose that knowledge either. This place is some weird cult, I guess. The Basics section is taught in schools. Why would you redo that just to satisfy some fundamentals program? What a fucking joke. | Do lesson 0 and see if it delivers on what you feel you want out of a structured course. Lesson 0 does a good job explaining how the course works and what to expect. | 0 | 38 | -0.272727 | ||
loaw7o | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Is drawabox right for me? I want to start a structured drawing program, but im not sure drawabox is what I need. Ive linked my first 3 drawings as an adult, I havnt drawn since elementary school until recently. I feel like I've got a pretty steady hand and that my construction skills are maybe half as good as an actually skilled artist. Im having a hard time convincing myself to commit such an enormous amount of time into learning what appears to basically be just construction. I see a lot of people swear by Drawabox, but maybe its not what I need? http://imgur.com/gallery/pxVzcWe | go59nho | go7jy3g | 1,613,847,674 | 1,613,896,090 | -11 | 3 | Try skipping over 0-2 of 'The Basics', and looking at the dynamic sketching portion of the lessons. Those lessons really are very basic for anyone with any background in art. Lesson 2 was pretty nice imo, but The Basics didn't teach me anything I didn't learn in art classes from back in High School, and in my experience, you don't just lose that knowledge either. This place is some weird cult, I guess. The Basics section is taught in schools. Why would you redo that just to satisfy some fundamentals program? What a fucking joke. | I think the skills taught and practiced in drawabox, like being able to rotate shapes in space and draw them from any angle, and how to understand shadow and texture, would make these decent drawings really pop. | 0 | 48,416 | -0.272727 | ||
loaw7o | artfundamentals_train | 0.97 | Is drawabox right for me? I want to start a structured drawing program, but im not sure drawabox is what I need. Ive linked my first 3 drawings as an adult, I havnt drawn since elementary school until recently. I feel like I've got a pretty steady hand and that my construction skills are maybe half as good as an actually skilled artist. Im having a hard time convincing myself to commit such an enormous amount of time into learning what appears to basically be just construction. I see a lot of people swear by Drawabox, but maybe its not what I need? http://imgur.com/gallery/pxVzcWe | go814p1 | go59nho | 1,613,912,515 | 1,613,847,674 | 1 | -11 | He has a youtube video about who it’s for | Try skipping over 0-2 of 'The Basics', and looking at the dynamic sketching portion of the lessons. Those lessons really are very basic for anyone with any background in art. Lesson 2 was pretty nice imo, but The Basics didn't teach me anything I didn't learn in art classes from back in High School, and in my experience, you don't just lose that knowledge either. This place is some weird cult, I guess. The Basics section is taught in schools. Why would you redo that just to satisfy some fundamentals program? What a fucking joke. | 1 | 64,841 | -0.090909 | ||
i0mbr0 | artfundamentals_train | 0.88 | Can I use a 0.8 fineliner instead of a 0.5 for drawabox? recently I accidentally bought, with all of my savings, a 0.8 fineliner instead of a 0.5 one. can I use it? I just bought this fineliner (a pentel pointliner) for the lessons. do I strictly need a 0.5? thanks for the help! | fzri94k | fzucuav | 1,596,136,434 | 1,596,183,409 | 3 | 4 | Also asked recently here: https://www.reddit.com/r/ArtFundamentals/comments/hww13h/are_07mm_fineliners_acceptable/ Uncomfortable said: > While we recommend 0.5mm, we generally say, when asked, that 0.4-0.6 is acceptable. 0.7 is getting to be quite thick however, and can add some additional difficulty that may distract from the principles of each exercise. | WITH **ALL** YOUR SAVINGS? THE FUCK DID YOU DO ELI? | 0 | 46,975 | 1.333333 | ||
ff00bq | artfundamentals_train | 0.75 | Can i follow drawabox course if want to work strictly on digital? When i started with this site course i found interesting that the creator made the site because when he learnt art he couldn't find a consistent guide to do so, so he wanted to help others. Thanks to his noble idea and others now it's easier to find books and comprehensive material if want to be a traditional artist. I found it interesting because that's the exact situation i am in...but with digital art, if you want to start with digital art...you are fairly out of luck as there is barely any guide or course. Even drawabox says it would be better to do the course with Ink rather than digitally. But i want to learn digital art. I am a biiiiig fan of pixel art, i find myself fascinated by the art of some pixel artists: * 1 * 2 * 3 * 4 * 5 (A personal favorite, like the usage of shadows and light.) * 6 * 7 These people are obviously creative geniuses to make such complex designs, the more i look at their art the more amazing i find it. So i would like to do amazing pixel art like them, aimed at indie game development. Of course i would choose digital to start drawing: * It would save the environment of thousands of pages with my shitty scribbles polluting the planet. * I won't need to jump from traditional to digital (many talented artists complain the can't even draw a straight line in digital...and they are bothered because they don't improve with the time) * There are useful software tools that complement photoshop that offer stuff like perspective rulers and trace stabilization. * I won't need to get used to a new medium. So, going to the title: Would it be good to follow drawabox course if want to work strictly on digital? Is there anything in the theory that won't translate to a digital medium as well? In theory it **SHOULD** be more efficient than traditional since there would be far more tools that don't exist in paper and ink. | fjv20sj | fju3h3z | 1,583,622,419 | 1,583,613,173 | 5 | 4 | >Would it be good to follow drawabox course if want to work strictly on digital? Would training with hand-to-hand combat help someone who strictly wants to be a professional fighter? >Is there anything in the theory that won't translate to a digital medium as well? Digital is a lot more forgiving of mistakes but has a lot more cruft to fiddle with that sits between you and your idea. Traditional drawing is pretty much just you, the pencil, and the paper. In both scenarios the most pivotal aspect is *you.* Your skills at drawing lines confidently. Your skills at drawing basic forms in perspective. Your knowledge of anatomy and proportion. Your knowledge of values and lighting. All of this stuff exists in your head and in your muscle memory. A lot of the digital tools that make these things "more efficient" because they are faster to do really just slow the development of your skills down. It is similar to handwriting notes for a class vs taking pictures of textbook pages with your cell phone. The value is in the act of doing the thing. The act of consideration and problem-solving. The more a tool does for you the less value you get from it in terms of personal growth. | From the drawabox site: > It [using fineliners] also has nothing to do with what tools I am training to use for your drawings later on. This is not a "how to draw with pen" course - it had better not be, because I'm not particularly good at it. I'm a digital artist myself, and while I do my practice drills in ink, I do all my professional work in Photoshop. And: > Why not digital? > Let me preface this by pointing out one thing again - I am a digital artist. All of the work I do professionally is digital. What I am saying here by no means suggests that you should stay away from digital media. So the short answer is yes, if your goal is to work on digital art then you can still benefit from drawabox, *but* the exercises should still be done in ink because that's what drawabox was designed for. The link above has explanations on why you shouldn't use digital mediums for drawabox. Outside of that is totally up to you. | 1 | 9,246 | 1.25 | ||
ff00bq | artfundamentals_train | 0.75 | Can i follow drawabox course if want to work strictly on digital? When i started with this site course i found interesting that the creator made the site because when he learnt art he couldn't find a consistent guide to do so, so he wanted to help others. Thanks to his noble idea and others now it's easier to find books and comprehensive material if want to be a traditional artist. I found it interesting because that's the exact situation i am in...but with digital art, if you want to start with digital art...you are fairly out of luck as there is barely any guide or course. Even drawabox says it would be better to do the course with Ink rather than digitally. But i want to learn digital art. I am a biiiiig fan of pixel art, i find myself fascinated by the art of some pixel artists: * 1 * 2 * 3 * 4 * 5 (A personal favorite, like the usage of shadows and light.) * 6 * 7 These people are obviously creative geniuses to make such complex designs, the more i look at their art the more amazing i find it. So i would like to do amazing pixel art like them, aimed at indie game development. Of course i would choose digital to start drawing: * It would save the environment of thousands of pages with my shitty scribbles polluting the planet. * I won't need to jump from traditional to digital (many talented artists complain the can't even draw a straight line in digital...and they are bothered because they don't improve with the time) * There are useful software tools that complement photoshop that offer stuff like perspective rulers and trace stabilization. * I won't need to get used to a new medium. So, going to the title: Would it be good to follow drawabox course if want to work strictly on digital? Is there anything in the theory that won't translate to a digital medium as well? In theory it **SHOULD** be more efficient than traditional since there would be far more tools that don't exist in paper and ink. | fjv20sj | fju3ujb | 1,583,622,419 | 1,583,613,280 | 5 | 2 | >Would it be good to follow drawabox course if want to work strictly on digital? Would training with hand-to-hand combat help someone who strictly wants to be a professional fighter? >Is there anything in the theory that won't translate to a digital medium as well? Digital is a lot more forgiving of mistakes but has a lot more cruft to fiddle with that sits between you and your idea. Traditional drawing is pretty much just you, the pencil, and the paper. In both scenarios the most pivotal aspect is *you.* Your skills at drawing lines confidently. Your skills at drawing basic forms in perspective. Your knowledge of anatomy and proportion. Your knowledge of values and lighting. All of this stuff exists in your head and in your muscle memory. A lot of the digital tools that make these things "more efficient" because they are faster to do really just slow the development of your skills down. It is similar to handwriting notes for a class vs taking pictures of textbook pages with your cell phone. The value is in the act of doing the thing. The act of consideration and problem-solving. The more a tool does for you the less value you get from it in terms of personal growth. | You only really need one tool: Your brain. The problem with the human brain: It's not very useful without training. What DrawABox gives you is training for your brain. Training control over your arm muscles. Training to overcome the fear of failure. Training away the over reliance on tools. The tools are only as good as the artist behind them. No digital art software/tool will compensate for your deficiencies as an artist. The other extremely important aspect about learning art is to accept critique from other artists. DrawABox specifies doing the exercises in paper and with fine liners so that everyone is working in the same conditions, which makes giving feedback a lot easier. By doing it digitally you are less likely to receive any critique/feedback from the community (and no chance getting it from the official source). | 1 | 9,139 | 2.5 | ||
ff00bq | artfundamentals_train | 0.75 | Can i follow drawabox course if want to work strictly on digital? When i started with this site course i found interesting that the creator made the site because when he learnt art he couldn't find a consistent guide to do so, so he wanted to help others. Thanks to his noble idea and others now it's easier to find books and comprehensive material if want to be a traditional artist. I found it interesting because that's the exact situation i am in...but with digital art, if you want to start with digital art...you are fairly out of luck as there is barely any guide or course. Even drawabox says it would be better to do the course with Ink rather than digitally. But i want to learn digital art. I am a biiiiig fan of pixel art, i find myself fascinated by the art of some pixel artists: * 1 * 2 * 3 * 4 * 5 (A personal favorite, like the usage of shadows and light.) * 6 * 7 These people are obviously creative geniuses to make such complex designs, the more i look at their art the more amazing i find it. So i would like to do amazing pixel art like them, aimed at indie game development. Of course i would choose digital to start drawing: * It would save the environment of thousands of pages with my shitty scribbles polluting the planet. * I won't need to jump from traditional to digital (many talented artists complain the can't even draw a straight line in digital...and they are bothered because they don't improve with the time) * There are useful software tools that complement photoshop that offer stuff like perspective rulers and trace stabilization. * I won't need to get used to a new medium. So, going to the title: Would it be good to follow drawabox course if want to work strictly on digital? Is there anything in the theory that won't translate to a digital medium as well? In theory it **SHOULD** be more efficient than traditional since there would be far more tools that don't exist in paper and ink. | fju64o9 | fjv20sj | 1,583,613,870 | 1,583,622,419 | 2 | 5 | >Even drawabox says it would be better to do the course with Ink rather than digitally. > >Read carefully between the lines. Some of this is as much about good habits as anything technical. > >While here r/DigitalPainting is another forum to look through. | >Would it be good to follow drawabox course if want to work strictly on digital? Would training with hand-to-hand combat help someone who strictly wants to be a professional fighter? >Is there anything in the theory that won't translate to a digital medium as well? Digital is a lot more forgiving of mistakes but has a lot more cruft to fiddle with that sits between you and your idea. Traditional drawing is pretty much just you, the pencil, and the paper. In both scenarios the most pivotal aspect is *you.* Your skills at drawing lines confidently. Your skills at drawing basic forms in perspective. Your knowledge of anatomy and proportion. Your knowledge of values and lighting. All of this stuff exists in your head and in your muscle memory. A lot of the digital tools that make these things "more efficient" because they are faster to do really just slow the development of your skills down. It is similar to handwriting notes for a class vs taking pictures of textbook pages with your cell phone. The value is in the act of doing the thing. The act of consideration and problem-solving. The more a tool does for you the less value you get from it in terms of personal growth. | 0 | 8,549 | 2.5 | ||
x36ile | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | I still have mistakes in the current lesson, do I need to go to the next lesson after finishing the current one? So I'm currently in the ellipse lesson and I still have a lot to master. I still drew wobbly and egg-shaped ellipses even though I'm already in the last homework of the ellipse section. Should I continue to the next lesson even though I'm still not that good at drawing ellipses or do I need to be good at it first? Any answer will be appreciated. Thank you! | imnh6zk | imo3l5x | 1,662,035,649 | 1,662,045,243 | 1 | 17 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Not sure why this gets asked so much, in the first few videos he is very explicit about not grinding. Just move on, even professionals dont have perfect ellipses and circles | 0 | 9,594 | 17 | ||
x36ile | artfundamentals_train | 0.85 | I still have mistakes in the current lesson, do I need to go to the next lesson after finishing the current one? So I'm currently in the ellipse lesson and I still have a lot to master. I still drew wobbly and egg-shaped ellipses even though I'm already in the last homework of the ellipse section. Should I continue to the next lesson even though I'm still not that good at drawing ellipses or do I need to be good at it first? Any answer will be appreciated. Thank you! | imol3fp | imnh6zk | 1,662,051,956 | 1,662,035,649 | 5 | 1 | Youll still be drawing ellipses and everything else as your warmup even all the way in lesson 7 so find out how you can improve and just move on | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 16,307 | 5 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frodo4a | froc1ad | 1,590,337,147 | 1,590,336,356 | 25 | 8 | You are already far beyond what's required of the exercise. Stuff like grading your own boxes and seeing which lines were wrong, it has helped you tons. It's really impressive you're already this far only by box #86. Just keep going until the end of the challenge. Also remember that even with minor mistakes a box can still look pretty darn accurate. No one will take a drawing you make and extend the lines from any box-like object to find out if you were off the vanishing point by a few degrees. They will just look at a building or desk you drew and go "yup, that looks 3D alright". | Sometimes it can help just to hear the same concepts explained by multiple people. Here is a Proko video on drawing boxes. Timestamped: https://youtu.be/3uEtdDvK6Xo?t=308 I was told to not to trace out to the vanishing points with each box by people on Discord. The reasoning being that part of the thing you want to build with this challenge is an intuition for the relationships between the lines; a sense of the angles between the lines that make up the closest corner(the "Y") and how it relates to all the other lines. They also have this image pinned in a chatroom that shows the Y Method and the Arrow Method. I also had trouble with destroying my fineliners. At first, I thought it was just my heavy-handedness that ruined them. After I addressed the heavy-handed situation I also realized that the speed at which I was making my lines was fraying(or melting?) the little felt at the end of the nib from the friction. It seemed like the superimposed lines exercise was the major culprit for me. As it is now, I don't feel it is necessary to go so fast anymore to get confident lines so that isn't a major issue. I'd say don't redo the lines, other than the single extra pass along the outline. I feel part of the biggest value I got coming away from this challenge was the better line discipline. See if you can still manage a confident line at a slower speed and while making sure that the pen is as close to 90 degrees off the surface of the paper as you can manage. I found often that allowed me to still get a decent line with my frayed nibbed microns. At least until the ink got too low. If that doesn't help then perhaps it is time to get some more. Or perhaps use a ballpoint pen if you can't manage it currently. I know Uncomfortable has mentioned that as an alternative in a pinch. I have since got a refillable Rotring Isograph 0.5 technical pen. They require some maintenance and very delicate but I feel they are a better value long term and better for the environment. I highly recommend it as long as you are fine with only putting enough ink in them for the day's session then cleaning them out after you are done. A single 0.5mm was $22 the last I checked(plus ink would probably be another $10). The college set I got came with 3 pen sizes and ink for $33(+plus a mechanical pencil, eraser, all in a storage case). So the set was definitely the way to go. Again, you'll want to clean them out regularly otherwise they clog. The nib is a metal needle so it is crucial you don't apply a lot of pressure. The drawing experience is scratchy too. There are tradeoffs with everything. I still love them. Perhaps consider them down the line. | 1 | 791 | 3.125 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | fro8hxn | frodo4a | 1,590,334,714 | 1,590,337,147 | 4 | 25 | I am doing the challenge as well, I can tell you my lines are not even near perfection but also that the exercise is not about that, you're not doing architecture, it's just to get you used to 3d space, and have a more intuitive sense of how those boxes sit in space. I think making actual good boxes will come later, keep going at the best of your ability | You are already far beyond what's required of the exercise. Stuff like grading your own boxes and seeing which lines were wrong, it has helped you tons. It's really impressive you're already this far only by box #86. Just keep going until the end of the challenge. Also remember that even with minor mistakes a box can still look pretty darn accurate. No one will take a drawing you make and extend the lines from any box-like object to find out if you were off the vanishing point by a few degrees. They will just look at a building or desk you drew and go "yup, that looks 3D alright". | 0 | 2,433 | 6.25 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | fro9nyx | frodo4a | 1,590,335,246 | 1,590,337,147 | 5 | 25 | after four months and a couple breaks I'm finally on box 200 and I am definitely not proud of most of the boxes I've made. it was only until box 170 when there would be 1 box out of every batch of 8 where everything felt natural and I could visualize where the lines should extend to and connect. but even then my lines usually wouldn't end up straight, or I wouldn't ghost enough, or I would completely miss the mark when trying to draw the last three lines. I think at this point everything is going to be kinda bad no matter what so the most important thing is to just work through it and not stress out about it *too* much. | You are already far beyond what's required of the exercise. Stuff like grading your own boxes and seeing which lines were wrong, it has helped you tons. It's really impressive you're already this far only by box #86. Just keep going until the end of the challenge. Also remember that even with minor mistakes a box can still look pretty darn accurate. No one will take a drawing you make and extend the lines from any box-like object to find out if you were off the vanishing point by a few degrees. They will just look at a building or desk you drew and go "yup, that looks 3D alright". | 0 | 1,901 | 5 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froagj7 | frodo4a | 1,590,335,613 | 1,590,337,147 | 4 | 25 | Hey, I’m also doing the challenge. As the other user said, you don’t have to have perfect lines. And you shouldn’t go back to try to fix the them either. The only thing you can do is really go with the ghosting technique to improve them. But one of the objectives of drawabox (that I understood so far) is for people to embrace failure and erros. The other thing that I noticed: I think you are extending the perspective lines way too much, it’s really difficult to analyze this way. It is not supposed to look pretty and you have to let go of this idea for future exercises. Good luck!! | You are already far beyond what's required of the exercise. Stuff like grading your own boxes and seeing which lines were wrong, it has helped you tons. It's really impressive you're already this far only by box #86. Just keep going until the end of the challenge. Also remember that even with minor mistakes a box can still look pretty darn accurate. No one will take a drawing you make and extend the lines from any box-like object to find out if you were off the vanishing point by a few degrees. They will just look at a building or desk you drew and go "yup, that looks 3D alright". | 0 | 1,534 | 6.25 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frpqjs7 | frp62jt | 1,590,361,441 | 1,590,351,263 | 13 | 8 | Your boxes are fine, I did 250 at 5-10 mins a box too. Just keep going and keep correcting your mistakes. If you want an additional exercise, draw some boxes with plotted vanishing points like in lesson one. On the paper, are you drawing on rough or computer paper? I did the exercises on rough paper for months and destroyed so many fine liners. I think the rough surface eats away at the nib. If you dont already have one, find a good smooth sketchbook. Personally I like Strathmore Mixed Media paper | This video helped me ScyllaStew how I draw boxes but I think yours look good anyway. | 1 | 10,178 | 1.625 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froc1ad | frpqjs7 | 1,590,336,356 | 1,590,361,441 | 8 | 13 | Sometimes it can help just to hear the same concepts explained by multiple people. Here is a Proko video on drawing boxes. Timestamped: https://youtu.be/3uEtdDvK6Xo?t=308 I was told to not to trace out to the vanishing points with each box by people on Discord. The reasoning being that part of the thing you want to build with this challenge is an intuition for the relationships between the lines; a sense of the angles between the lines that make up the closest corner(the "Y") and how it relates to all the other lines. They also have this image pinned in a chatroom that shows the Y Method and the Arrow Method. I also had trouble with destroying my fineliners. At first, I thought it was just my heavy-handedness that ruined them. After I addressed the heavy-handed situation I also realized that the speed at which I was making my lines was fraying(or melting?) the little felt at the end of the nib from the friction. It seemed like the superimposed lines exercise was the major culprit for me. As it is now, I don't feel it is necessary to go so fast anymore to get confident lines so that isn't a major issue. I'd say don't redo the lines, other than the single extra pass along the outline. I feel part of the biggest value I got coming away from this challenge was the better line discipline. See if you can still manage a confident line at a slower speed and while making sure that the pen is as close to 90 degrees off the surface of the paper as you can manage. I found often that allowed me to still get a decent line with my frayed nibbed microns. At least until the ink got too low. If that doesn't help then perhaps it is time to get some more. Or perhaps use a ballpoint pen if you can't manage it currently. I know Uncomfortable has mentioned that as an alternative in a pinch. I have since got a refillable Rotring Isograph 0.5 technical pen. They require some maintenance and very delicate but I feel they are a better value long term and better for the environment. I highly recommend it as long as you are fine with only putting enough ink in them for the day's session then cleaning them out after you are done. A single 0.5mm was $22 the last I checked(plus ink would probably be another $10). The college set I got came with 3 pen sizes and ink for $33(+plus a mechanical pencil, eraser, all in a storage case). So the set was definitely the way to go. Again, you'll want to clean them out regularly otherwise they clog. The nib is a metal needle so it is crucial you don't apply a lot of pressure. The drawing experience is scratchy too. There are tradeoffs with everything. I still love them. Perhaps consider them down the line. | Your boxes are fine, I did 250 at 5-10 mins a box too. Just keep going and keep correcting your mistakes. If you want an additional exercise, draw some boxes with plotted vanishing points like in lesson one. On the paper, are you drawing on rough or computer paper? I did the exercises on rough paper for months and destroyed so many fine liners. I think the rough surface eats away at the nib. If you dont already have one, find a good smooth sketchbook. Personally I like Strathmore Mixed Media paper | 0 | 25,085 | 1.625 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frp6hyv | frpqjs7 | 1,590,351,447 | 1,590,361,441 | 9 | 13 | Looks pretty good to me!! I am only on about box 40. One thing I started doing about 10 boxes ago was basically drawing the same size box (with just a little bit of rotation) several times in a row. This has helped alot with improving on accuracy of vanishing points. | Your boxes are fine, I did 250 at 5-10 mins a box too. Just keep going and keep correcting your mistakes. If you want an additional exercise, draw some boxes with plotted vanishing points like in lesson one. On the paper, are you drawing on rough or computer paper? I did the exercises on rough paper for months and destroyed so many fine liners. I think the rough surface eats away at the nib. If you dont already have one, find a good smooth sketchbook. Personally I like Strathmore Mixed Media paper | 0 | 9,994 | 1.444444 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frpqjs7 | froke88 | 1,590,361,441 | 1,590,340,484 | 13 | 7 | Your boxes are fine, I did 250 at 5-10 mins a box too. Just keep going and keep correcting your mistakes. If you want an additional exercise, draw some boxes with plotted vanishing points like in lesson one. On the paper, are you drawing on rough or computer paper? I did the exercises on rough paper for months and destroyed so many fine liners. I think the rough surface eats away at the nib. If you dont already have one, find a good smooth sketchbook. Personally I like Strathmore Mixed Media paper | Re-read the text on foreshortening – shallow and dramatic. It helped me understand the concept. Also, I saw your drawing and most of it seems to have parallel lines. I think it's better if you these parallel lines meet a vanishing point, atleast start out with dramatic foreshortening as it will be easy for visualising within the page. This way you'll avoid the parallel lines cubix syndrome. Even I had that as a beginner. :D | 1 | 20,957 | 1.857143 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | fro8hxn | frpqjs7 | 1,590,334,714 | 1,590,361,441 | 4 | 13 | I am doing the challenge as well, I can tell you my lines are not even near perfection but also that the exercise is not about that, you're not doing architecture, it's just to get you used to 3d space, and have a more intuitive sense of how those boxes sit in space. I think making actual good boxes will come later, keep going at the best of your ability | Your boxes are fine, I did 250 at 5-10 mins a box too. Just keep going and keep correcting your mistakes. If you want an additional exercise, draw some boxes with plotted vanishing points like in lesson one. On the paper, are you drawing on rough or computer paper? I did the exercises on rough paper for months and destroyed so many fine liners. I think the rough surface eats away at the nib. If you dont already have one, find a good smooth sketchbook. Personally I like Strathmore Mixed Media paper | 0 | 26,727 | 3.25 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frpqjs7 | fro9nyx | 1,590,361,441 | 1,590,335,246 | 13 | 5 | Your boxes are fine, I did 250 at 5-10 mins a box too. Just keep going and keep correcting your mistakes. If you want an additional exercise, draw some boxes with plotted vanishing points like in lesson one. On the paper, are you drawing on rough or computer paper? I did the exercises on rough paper for months and destroyed so many fine liners. I think the rough surface eats away at the nib. If you dont already have one, find a good smooth sketchbook. Personally I like Strathmore Mixed Media paper | after four months and a couple breaks I'm finally on box 200 and I am definitely not proud of most of the boxes I've made. it was only until box 170 when there would be 1 box out of every batch of 8 where everything felt natural and I could visualize where the lines should extend to and connect. but even then my lines usually wouldn't end up straight, or I wouldn't ghost enough, or I would completely miss the mark when trying to draw the last three lines. I think at this point everything is going to be kinda bad no matter what so the most important thing is to just work through it and not stress out about it *too* much. | 1 | 26,195 | 2.6 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frpqjs7 | froagj7 | 1,590,361,441 | 1,590,335,613 | 13 | 4 | Your boxes are fine, I did 250 at 5-10 mins a box too. Just keep going and keep correcting your mistakes. If you want an additional exercise, draw some boxes with plotted vanishing points like in lesson one. On the paper, are you drawing on rough or computer paper? I did the exercises on rough paper for months and destroyed so many fine liners. I think the rough surface eats away at the nib. If you dont already have one, find a good smooth sketchbook. Personally I like Strathmore Mixed Media paper | Hey, I’m also doing the challenge. As the other user said, you don’t have to have perfect lines. And you shouldn’t go back to try to fix the them either. The only thing you can do is really go with the ghosting technique to improve them. But one of the objectives of drawabox (that I understood so far) is for people to embrace failure and erros. The other thing that I noticed: I think you are extending the perspective lines way too much, it’s really difficult to analyze this way. It is not supposed to look pretty and you have to let go of this idea for future exercises. Good luck!! | 1 | 25,828 | 3.25 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frrbnb5 | frp62jt | 1,590,405,148 | 1,590,351,263 | 9 | 8 | Your boxes are great. Remember, two exercises ago with the rotated box orb thing, the lesson is telling you over and over how your boxes should not be able to look anything close to what he made in his example. And now you're beating yourself up because on this example they don't look perfect. You're on box 86 at the time of writing this, and the box exercise is 250 boxes. At no point is the requirement to be able to make a perfect box at the end of this exercise. Instead, the requirement is to make a bunch of boxes using what you've learned, and then measure and draw the vanishing point lines and see how close/far you got. If you are able to see errors, you are able to improve. If you were able to make 86 perfect boxes in a row, or even guarantee one perfect box, there would be no point to doing this exercise. The point of this exercise IS TO MAKE ERRORS! not to have a perfect box, but to understand what makes a perfect box perfect. And you VERY CLEARLY do. You are understanding and you've even given yourself more space on a page to understand better. You are, essentially, doing this exercise perfectly. Good job. | This video helped me ScyllaStew how I draw boxes but I think yours look good anyway. | 1 | 53,885 | 1.125 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froc1ad | frrbnb5 | 1,590,336,356 | 1,590,405,148 | 8 | 9 | Sometimes it can help just to hear the same concepts explained by multiple people. Here is a Proko video on drawing boxes. Timestamped: https://youtu.be/3uEtdDvK6Xo?t=308 I was told to not to trace out to the vanishing points with each box by people on Discord. The reasoning being that part of the thing you want to build with this challenge is an intuition for the relationships between the lines; a sense of the angles between the lines that make up the closest corner(the "Y") and how it relates to all the other lines. They also have this image pinned in a chatroom that shows the Y Method and the Arrow Method. I also had trouble with destroying my fineliners. At first, I thought it was just my heavy-handedness that ruined them. After I addressed the heavy-handed situation I also realized that the speed at which I was making my lines was fraying(or melting?) the little felt at the end of the nib from the friction. It seemed like the superimposed lines exercise was the major culprit for me. As it is now, I don't feel it is necessary to go so fast anymore to get confident lines so that isn't a major issue. I'd say don't redo the lines, other than the single extra pass along the outline. I feel part of the biggest value I got coming away from this challenge was the better line discipline. See if you can still manage a confident line at a slower speed and while making sure that the pen is as close to 90 degrees off the surface of the paper as you can manage. I found often that allowed me to still get a decent line with my frayed nibbed microns. At least until the ink got too low. If that doesn't help then perhaps it is time to get some more. Or perhaps use a ballpoint pen if you can't manage it currently. I know Uncomfortable has mentioned that as an alternative in a pinch. I have since got a refillable Rotring Isograph 0.5 technical pen. They require some maintenance and very delicate but I feel they are a better value long term and better for the environment. I highly recommend it as long as you are fine with only putting enough ink in them for the day's session then cleaning them out after you are done. A single 0.5mm was $22 the last I checked(plus ink would probably be another $10). The college set I got came with 3 pen sizes and ink for $33(+plus a mechanical pencil, eraser, all in a storage case). So the set was definitely the way to go. Again, you'll want to clean them out regularly otherwise they clog. The nib is a metal needle so it is crucial you don't apply a lot of pressure. The drawing experience is scratchy too. There are tradeoffs with everything. I still love them. Perhaps consider them down the line. | Your boxes are great. Remember, two exercises ago with the rotated box orb thing, the lesson is telling you over and over how your boxes should not be able to look anything close to what he made in his example. And now you're beating yourself up because on this example they don't look perfect. You're on box 86 at the time of writing this, and the box exercise is 250 boxes. At no point is the requirement to be able to make a perfect box at the end of this exercise. Instead, the requirement is to make a bunch of boxes using what you've learned, and then measure and draw the vanishing point lines and see how close/far you got. If you are able to see errors, you are able to improve. If you were able to make 86 perfect boxes in a row, or even guarantee one perfect box, there would be no point to doing this exercise. The point of this exercise IS TO MAKE ERRORS! not to have a perfect box, but to understand what makes a perfect box perfect. And you VERY CLEARLY do. You are understanding and you've even given yourself more space on a page to understand better. You are, essentially, doing this exercise perfectly. Good job. | 0 | 68,792 | 1.125 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frrbnb5 | froke88 | 1,590,405,148 | 1,590,340,484 | 9 | 7 | Your boxes are great. Remember, two exercises ago with the rotated box orb thing, the lesson is telling you over and over how your boxes should not be able to look anything close to what he made in his example. And now you're beating yourself up because on this example they don't look perfect. You're on box 86 at the time of writing this, and the box exercise is 250 boxes. At no point is the requirement to be able to make a perfect box at the end of this exercise. Instead, the requirement is to make a bunch of boxes using what you've learned, and then measure and draw the vanishing point lines and see how close/far you got. If you are able to see errors, you are able to improve. If you were able to make 86 perfect boxes in a row, or even guarantee one perfect box, there would be no point to doing this exercise. The point of this exercise IS TO MAKE ERRORS! not to have a perfect box, but to understand what makes a perfect box perfect. And you VERY CLEARLY do. You are understanding and you've even given yourself more space on a page to understand better. You are, essentially, doing this exercise perfectly. Good job. | Re-read the text on foreshortening – shallow and dramatic. It helped me understand the concept. Also, I saw your drawing and most of it seems to have parallel lines. I think it's better if you these parallel lines meet a vanishing point, atleast start out with dramatic foreshortening as it will be easy for visualising within the page. This way you'll avoid the parallel lines cubix syndrome. Even I had that as a beginner. :D | 1 | 64,664 | 1.285714 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frrbnb5 | fro8hxn | 1,590,405,148 | 1,590,334,714 | 9 | 4 | Your boxes are great. Remember, two exercises ago with the rotated box orb thing, the lesson is telling you over and over how your boxes should not be able to look anything close to what he made in his example. And now you're beating yourself up because on this example they don't look perfect. You're on box 86 at the time of writing this, and the box exercise is 250 boxes. At no point is the requirement to be able to make a perfect box at the end of this exercise. Instead, the requirement is to make a bunch of boxes using what you've learned, and then measure and draw the vanishing point lines and see how close/far you got. If you are able to see errors, you are able to improve. If you were able to make 86 perfect boxes in a row, or even guarantee one perfect box, there would be no point to doing this exercise. The point of this exercise IS TO MAKE ERRORS! not to have a perfect box, but to understand what makes a perfect box perfect. And you VERY CLEARLY do. You are understanding and you've even given yourself more space on a page to understand better. You are, essentially, doing this exercise perfectly. Good job. | I am doing the challenge as well, I can tell you my lines are not even near perfection but also that the exercise is not about that, you're not doing architecture, it's just to get you used to 3d space, and have a more intuitive sense of how those boxes sit in space. I think making actual good boxes will come later, keep going at the best of your ability | 1 | 70,434 | 2.25 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | fro9nyx | frrbnb5 | 1,590,335,246 | 1,590,405,148 | 5 | 9 | after four months and a couple breaks I'm finally on box 200 and I am definitely not proud of most of the boxes I've made. it was only until box 170 when there would be 1 box out of every batch of 8 where everything felt natural and I could visualize where the lines should extend to and connect. but even then my lines usually wouldn't end up straight, or I wouldn't ghost enough, or I would completely miss the mark when trying to draw the last three lines. I think at this point everything is going to be kinda bad no matter what so the most important thing is to just work through it and not stress out about it *too* much. | Your boxes are great. Remember, two exercises ago with the rotated box orb thing, the lesson is telling you over and over how your boxes should not be able to look anything close to what he made in his example. And now you're beating yourself up because on this example they don't look perfect. You're on box 86 at the time of writing this, and the box exercise is 250 boxes. At no point is the requirement to be able to make a perfect box at the end of this exercise. Instead, the requirement is to make a bunch of boxes using what you've learned, and then measure and draw the vanishing point lines and see how close/far you got. If you are able to see errors, you are able to improve. If you were able to make 86 perfect boxes in a row, or even guarantee one perfect box, there would be no point to doing this exercise. The point of this exercise IS TO MAKE ERRORS! not to have a perfect box, but to understand what makes a perfect box perfect. And you VERY CLEARLY do. You are understanding and you've even given yourself more space on a page to understand better. You are, essentially, doing this exercise perfectly. Good job. | 0 | 69,902 | 1.8 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froagj7 | frrbnb5 | 1,590,335,613 | 1,590,405,148 | 4 | 9 | Hey, I’m also doing the challenge. As the other user said, you don’t have to have perfect lines. And you shouldn’t go back to try to fix the them either. The only thing you can do is really go with the ghosting technique to improve them. But one of the objectives of drawabox (that I understood so far) is for people to embrace failure and erros. The other thing that I noticed: I think you are extending the perspective lines way too much, it’s really difficult to analyze this way. It is not supposed to look pretty and you have to let go of this idea for future exercises. Good luck!! | Your boxes are great. Remember, two exercises ago with the rotated box orb thing, the lesson is telling you over and over how your boxes should not be able to look anything close to what he made in his example. And now you're beating yourself up because on this example they don't look perfect. You're on box 86 at the time of writing this, and the box exercise is 250 boxes. At no point is the requirement to be able to make a perfect box at the end of this exercise. Instead, the requirement is to make a bunch of boxes using what you've learned, and then measure and draw the vanishing point lines and see how close/far you got. If you are able to see errors, you are able to improve. If you were able to make 86 perfect boxes in a row, or even guarantee one perfect box, there would be no point to doing this exercise. The point of this exercise IS TO MAKE ERRORS! not to have a perfect box, but to understand what makes a perfect box perfect. And you VERY CLEARLY do. You are understanding and you've even given yourself more space on a page to understand better. You are, essentially, doing this exercise perfectly. Good job. | 0 | 69,535 | 2.25 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frq2sks | frrbnb5 | 1,590,368,829 | 1,590,405,148 | 2 | 9 | Hi im new to this sub and wanna ask, what is this 250 box challenge? | Your boxes are great. Remember, two exercises ago with the rotated box orb thing, the lesson is telling you over and over how your boxes should not be able to look anything close to what he made in his example. And now you're beating yourself up because on this example they don't look perfect. You're on box 86 at the time of writing this, and the box exercise is 250 boxes. At no point is the requirement to be able to make a perfect box at the end of this exercise. Instead, the requirement is to make a bunch of boxes using what you've learned, and then measure and draw the vanishing point lines and see how close/far you got. If you are able to see errors, you are able to improve. If you were able to make 86 perfect boxes in a row, or even guarantee one perfect box, there would be no point to doing this exercise. The point of this exercise IS TO MAKE ERRORS! not to have a perfect box, but to understand what makes a perfect box perfect. And you VERY CLEARLY do. You are understanding and you've even given yourself more space on a page to understand better. You are, essentially, doing this exercise perfectly. Good job. | 0 | 36,319 | 4.5 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frp62jt | frp6hyv | 1,590,351,263 | 1,590,351,447 | 8 | 9 | This video helped me ScyllaStew how I draw boxes but I think yours look good anyway. | Looks pretty good to me!! I am only on about box 40. One thing I started doing about 10 boxes ago was basically drawing the same size box (with just a little bit of rotation) several times in a row. This has helped alot with improving on accuracy of vanishing points. | 0 | 184 | 1.125 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frp62jt | froke88 | 1,590,351,263 | 1,590,340,484 | 8 | 7 | This video helped me ScyllaStew how I draw boxes but I think yours look good anyway. | Re-read the text on foreshortening – shallow and dramatic. It helped me understand the concept. Also, I saw your drawing and most of it seems to have parallel lines. I think it's better if you these parallel lines meet a vanishing point, atleast start out with dramatic foreshortening as it will be easy for visualising within the page. This way you'll avoid the parallel lines cubix syndrome. Even I had that as a beginner. :D | 1 | 10,779 | 1.142857 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | fro8hxn | frp62jt | 1,590,334,714 | 1,590,351,263 | 4 | 8 | I am doing the challenge as well, I can tell you my lines are not even near perfection but also that the exercise is not about that, you're not doing architecture, it's just to get you used to 3d space, and have a more intuitive sense of how those boxes sit in space. I think making actual good boxes will come later, keep going at the best of your ability | This video helped me ScyllaStew how I draw boxes but I think yours look good anyway. | 0 | 16,549 | 2 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frp62jt | fro9nyx | 1,590,351,263 | 1,590,335,246 | 8 | 5 | This video helped me ScyllaStew how I draw boxes but I think yours look good anyway. | after four months and a couple breaks I'm finally on box 200 and I am definitely not proud of most of the boxes I've made. it was only until box 170 when there would be 1 box out of every batch of 8 where everything felt natural and I could visualize where the lines should extend to and connect. but even then my lines usually wouldn't end up straight, or I wouldn't ghost enough, or I would completely miss the mark when trying to draw the last three lines. I think at this point everything is going to be kinda bad no matter what so the most important thing is to just work through it and not stress out about it *too* much. | 1 | 16,017 | 1.6 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froagj7 | frp62jt | 1,590,335,613 | 1,590,351,263 | 4 | 8 | Hey, I’m also doing the challenge. As the other user said, you don’t have to have perfect lines. And you shouldn’t go back to try to fix the them either. The only thing you can do is really go with the ghosting technique to improve them. But one of the objectives of drawabox (that I understood so far) is for people to embrace failure and erros. The other thing that I noticed: I think you are extending the perspective lines way too much, it’s really difficult to analyze this way. It is not supposed to look pretty and you have to let go of this idea for future exercises. Good luck!! | This video helped me ScyllaStew how I draw boxes but I think yours look good anyway. | 0 | 15,650 | 2 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froc1ad | frp6hyv | 1,590,336,356 | 1,590,351,447 | 8 | 9 | Sometimes it can help just to hear the same concepts explained by multiple people. Here is a Proko video on drawing boxes. Timestamped: https://youtu.be/3uEtdDvK6Xo?t=308 I was told to not to trace out to the vanishing points with each box by people on Discord. The reasoning being that part of the thing you want to build with this challenge is an intuition for the relationships between the lines; a sense of the angles between the lines that make up the closest corner(the "Y") and how it relates to all the other lines. They also have this image pinned in a chatroom that shows the Y Method and the Arrow Method. I also had trouble with destroying my fineliners. At first, I thought it was just my heavy-handedness that ruined them. After I addressed the heavy-handed situation I also realized that the speed at which I was making my lines was fraying(or melting?) the little felt at the end of the nib from the friction. It seemed like the superimposed lines exercise was the major culprit for me. As it is now, I don't feel it is necessary to go so fast anymore to get confident lines so that isn't a major issue. I'd say don't redo the lines, other than the single extra pass along the outline. I feel part of the biggest value I got coming away from this challenge was the better line discipline. See if you can still manage a confident line at a slower speed and while making sure that the pen is as close to 90 degrees off the surface of the paper as you can manage. I found often that allowed me to still get a decent line with my frayed nibbed microns. At least until the ink got too low. If that doesn't help then perhaps it is time to get some more. Or perhaps use a ballpoint pen if you can't manage it currently. I know Uncomfortable has mentioned that as an alternative in a pinch. I have since got a refillable Rotring Isograph 0.5 technical pen. They require some maintenance and very delicate but I feel they are a better value long term and better for the environment. I highly recommend it as long as you are fine with only putting enough ink in them for the day's session then cleaning them out after you are done. A single 0.5mm was $22 the last I checked(plus ink would probably be another $10). The college set I got came with 3 pen sizes and ink for $33(+plus a mechanical pencil, eraser, all in a storage case). So the set was definitely the way to go. Again, you'll want to clean them out regularly otherwise they clog. The nib is a metal needle so it is crucial you don't apply a lot of pressure. The drawing experience is scratchy too. There are tradeoffs with everything. I still love them. Perhaps consider them down the line. | Looks pretty good to me!! I am only on about box 40. One thing I started doing about 10 boxes ago was basically drawing the same size box (with just a little bit of rotation) several times in a row. This has helped alot with improving on accuracy of vanishing points. | 0 | 15,091 | 1.125 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froc1ad | fro8hxn | 1,590,336,356 | 1,590,334,714 | 8 | 4 | Sometimes it can help just to hear the same concepts explained by multiple people. Here is a Proko video on drawing boxes. Timestamped: https://youtu.be/3uEtdDvK6Xo?t=308 I was told to not to trace out to the vanishing points with each box by people on Discord. The reasoning being that part of the thing you want to build with this challenge is an intuition for the relationships between the lines; a sense of the angles between the lines that make up the closest corner(the "Y") and how it relates to all the other lines. They also have this image pinned in a chatroom that shows the Y Method and the Arrow Method. I also had trouble with destroying my fineliners. At first, I thought it was just my heavy-handedness that ruined them. After I addressed the heavy-handed situation I also realized that the speed at which I was making my lines was fraying(or melting?) the little felt at the end of the nib from the friction. It seemed like the superimposed lines exercise was the major culprit for me. As it is now, I don't feel it is necessary to go so fast anymore to get confident lines so that isn't a major issue. I'd say don't redo the lines, other than the single extra pass along the outline. I feel part of the biggest value I got coming away from this challenge was the better line discipline. See if you can still manage a confident line at a slower speed and while making sure that the pen is as close to 90 degrees off the surface of the paper as you can manage. I found often that allowed me to still get a decent line with my frayed nibbed microns. At least until the ink got too low. If that doesn't help then perhaps it is time to get some more. Or perhaps use a ballpoint pen if you can't manage it currently. I know Uncomfortable has mentioned that as an alternative in a pinch. I have since got a refillable Rotring Isograph 0.5 technical pen. They require some maintenance and very delicate but I feel they are a better value long term and better for the environment. I highly recommend it as long as you are fine with only putting enough ink in them for the day's session then cleaning them out after you are done. A single 0.5mm was $22 the last I checked(plus ink would probably be another $10). The college set I got came with 3 pen sizes and ink for $33(+plus a mechanical pencil, eraser, all in a storage case). So the set was definitely the way to go. Again, you'll want to clean them out regularly otherwise they clog. The nib is a metal needle so it is crucial you don't apply a lot of pressure. The drawing experience is scratchy too. There are tradeoffs with everything. I still love them. Perhaps consider them down the line. | I am doing the challenge as well, I can tell you my lines are not even near perfection but also that the exercise is not about that, you're not doing architecture, it's just to get you used to 3d space, and have a more intuitive sense of how those boxes sit in space. I think making actual good boxes will come later, keep going at the best of your ability | 1 | 1,642 | 2 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froc1ad | fro9nyx | 1,590,336,356 | 1,590,335,246 | 8 | 5 | Sometimes it can help just to hear the same concepts explained by multiple people. Here is a Proko video on drawing boxes. Timestamped: https://youtu.be/3uEtdDvK6Xo?t=308 I was told to not to trace out to the vanishing points with each box by people on Discord. The reasoning being that part of the thing you want to build with this challenge is an intuition for the relationships between the lines; a sense of the angles between the lines that make up the closest corner(the "Y") and how it relates to all the other lines. They also have this image pinned in a chatroom that shows the Y Method and the Arrow Method. I also had trouble with destroying my fineliners. At first, I thought it was just my heavy-handedness that ruined them. After I addressed the heavy-handed situation I also realized that the speed at which I was making my lines was fraying(or melting?) the little felt at the end of the nib from the friction. It seemed like the superimposed lines exercise was the major culprit for me. As it is now, I don't feel it is necessary to go so fast anymore to get confident lines so that isn't a major issue. I'd say don't redo the lines, other than the single extra pass along the outline. I feel part of the biggest value I got coming away from this challenge was the better line discipline. See if you can still manage a confident line at a slower speed and while making sure that the pen is as close to 90 degrees off the surface of the paper as you can manage. I found often that allowed me to still get a decent line with my frayed nibbed microns. At least until the ink got too low. If that doesn't help then perhaps it is time to get some more. Or perhaps use a ballpoint pen if you can't manage it currently. I know Uncomfortable has mentioned that as an alternative in a pinch. I have since got a refillable Rotring Isograph 0.5 technical pen. They require some maintenance and very delicate but I feel they are a better value long term and better for the environment. I highly recommend it as long as you are fine with only putting enough ink in them for the day's session then cleaning them out after you are done. A single 0.5mm was $22 the last I checked(plus ink would probably be another $10). The college set I got came with 3 pen sizes and ink for $33(+plus a mechanical pencil, eraser, all in a storage case). So the set was definitely the way to go. Again, you'll want to clean them out regularly otherwise they clog. The nib is a metal needle so it is crucial you don't apply a lot of pressure. The drawing experience is scratchy too. There are tradeoffs with everything. I still love them. Perhaps consider them down the line. | after four months and a couple breaks I'm finally on box 200 and I am definitely not proud of most of the boxes I've made. it was only until box 170 when there would be 1 box out of every batch of 8 where everything felt natural and I could visualize where the lines should extend to and connect. but even then my lines usually wouldn't end up straight, or I wouldn't ghost enough, or I would completely miss the mark when trying to draw the last three lines. I think at this point everything is going to be kinda bad no matter what so the most important thing is to just work through it and not stress out about it *too* much. | 1 | 1,110 | 1.6 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froagj7 | froc1ad | 1,590,335,613 | 1,590,336,356 | 4 | 8 | Hey, I’m also doing the challenge. As the other user said, you don’t have to have perfect lines. And you shouldn’t go back to try to fix the them either. The only thing you can do is really go with the ghosting technique to improve them. But one of the objectives of drawabox (that I understood so far) is for people to embrace failure and erros. The other thing that I noticed: I think you are extending the perspective lines way too much, it’s really difficult to analyze this way. It is not supposed to look pretty and you have to let go of this idea for future exercises. Good luck!! | Sometimes it can help just to hear the same concepts explained by multiple people. Here is a Proko video on drawing boxes. Timestamped: https://youtu.be/3uEtdDvK6Xo?t=308 I was told to not to trace out to the vanishing points with each box by people on Discord. The reasoning being that part of the thing you want to build with this challenge is an intuition for the relationships between the lines; a sense of the angles between the lines that make up the closest corner(the "Y") and how it relates to all the other lines. They also have this image pinned in a chatroom that shows the Y Method and the Arrow Method. I also had trouble with destroying my fineliners. At first, I thought it was just my heavy-handedness that ruined them. After I addressed the heavy-handed situation I also realized that the speed at which I was making my lines was fraying(or melting?) the little felt at the end of the nib from the friction. It seemed like the superimposed lines exercise was the major culprit for me. As it is now, I don't feel it is necessary to go so fast anymore to get confident lines so that isn't a major issue. I'd say don't redo the lines, other than the single extra pass along the outline. I feel part of the biggest value I got coming away from this challenge was the better line discipline. See if you can still manage a confident line at a slower speed and while making sure that the pen is as close to 90 degrees off the surface of the paper as you can manage. I found often that allowed me to still get a decent line with my frayed nibbed microns. At least until the ink got too low. If that doesn't help then perhaps it is time to get some more. Or perhaps use a ballpoint pen if you can't manage it currently. I know Uncomfortable has mentioned that as an alternative in a pinch. I have since got a refillable Rotring Isograph 0.5 technical pen. They require some maintenance and very delicate but I feel they are a better value long term and better for the environment. I highly recommend it as long as you are fine with only putting enough ink in them for the day's session then cleaning them out after you are done. A single 0.5mm was $22 the last I checked(plus ink would probably be another $10). The college set I got came with 3 pen sizes and ink for $33(+plus a mechanical pencil, eraser, all in a storage case). So the set was definitely the way to go. Again, you'll want to clean them out regularly otherwise they clog. The nib is a metal needle so it is crucial you don't apply a lot of pressure. The drawing experience is scratchy too. There are tradeoffs with everything. I still love them. Perhaps consider them down the line. | 0 | 743 | 2 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froke88 | frp6hyv | 1,590,340,484 | 1,590,351,447 | 7 | 9 | Re-read the text on foreshortening – shallow and dramatic. It helped me understand the concept. Also, I saw your drawing and most of it seems to have parallel lines. I think it's better if you these parallel lines meet a vanishing point, atleast start out with dramatic foreshortening as it will be easy for visualising within the page. This way you'll avoid the parallel lines cubix syndrome. Even I had that as a beginner. :D | Looks pretty good to me!! I am only on about box 40. One thing I started doing about 10 boxes ago was basically drawing the same size box (with just a little bit of rotation) several times in a row. This has helped alot with improving on accuracy of vanishing points. | 0 | 10,963 | 1.285714 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | fro8hxn | frp6hyv | 1,590,334,714 | 1,590,351,447 | 4 | 9 | I am doing the challenge as well, I can tell you my lines are not even near perfection but also that the exercise is not about that, you're not doing architecture, it's just to get you used to 3d space, and have a more intuitive sense of how those boxes sit in space. I think making actual good boxes will come later, keep going at the best of your ability | Looks pretty good to me!! I am only on about box 40. One thing I started doing about 10 boxes ago was basically drawing the same size box (with just a little bit of rotation) several times in a row. This has helped alot with improving on accuracy of vanishing points. | 0 | 16,733 | 2.25 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frp6hyv | fro9nyx | 1,590,351,447 | 1,590,335,246 | 9 | 5 | Looks pretty good to me!! I am only on about box 40. One thing I started doing about 10 boxes ago was basically drawing the same size box (with just a little bit of rotation) several times in a row. This has helped alot with improving on accuracy of vanishing points. | after four months and a couple breaks I'm finally on box 200 and I am definitely not proud of most of the boxes I've made. it was only until box 170 when there would be 1 box out of every batch of 8 where everything felt natural and I could visualize where the lines should extend to and connect. but even then my lines usually wouldn't end up straight, or I wouldn't ghost enough, or I would completely miss the mark when trying to draw the last three lines. I think at this point everything is going to be kinda bad no matter what so the most important thing is to just work through it and not stress out about it *too* much. | 1 | 16,201 | 1.8 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | frp6hyv | froagj7 | 1,590,351,447 | 1,590,335,613 | 9 | 4 | Looks pretty good to me!! I am only on about box 40. One thing I started doing about 10 boxes ago was basically drawing the same size box (with just a little bit of rotation) several times in a row. This has helped alot with improving on accuracy of vanishing points. | Hey, I’m also doing the challenge. As the other user said, you don’t have to have perfect lines. And you shouldn’t go back to try to fix the them either. The only thing you can do is really go with the ghosting technique to improve them. But one of the objectives of drawabox (that I understood so far) is for people to embrace failure and erros. The other thing that I noticed: I think you are extending the perspective lines way too much, it’s really difficult to analyze this way. It is not supposed to look pretty and you have to let go of this idea for future exercises. Good luck!! | 1 | 15,834 | 2.25 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | fro8hxn | froke88 | 1,590,334,714 | 1,590,340,484 | 4 | 7 | I am doing the challenge as well, I can tell you my lines are not even near perfection but also that the exercise is not about that, you're not doing architecture, it's just to get you used to 3d space, and have a more intuitive sense of how those boxes sit in space. I think making actual good boxes will come later, keep going at the best of your ability | Re-read the text on foreshortening – shallow and dramatic. It helped me understand the concept. Also, I saw your drawing and most of it seems to have parallel lines. I think it's better if you these parallel lines meet a vanishing point, atleast start out with dramatic foreshortening as it will be easy for visualising within the page. This way you'll avoid the parallel lines cubix syndrome. Even I had that as a beginner. :D | 0 | 5,770 | 1.75 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froke88 | fro9nyx | 1,590,340,484 | 1,590,335,246 | 7 | 5 | Re-read the text on foreshortening – shallow and dramatic. It helped me understand the concept. Also, I saw your drawing and most of it seems to have parallel lines. I think it's better if you these parallel lines meet a vanishing point, atleast start out with dramatic foreshortening as it will be easy for visualising within the page. This way you'll avoid the parallel lines cubix syndrome. Even I had that as a beginner. :D | after four months and a couple breaks I'm finally on box 200 and I am definitely not proud of most of the boxes I've made. it was only until box 170 when there would be 1 box out of every batch of 8 where everything felt natural and I could visualize where the lines should extend to and connect. but even then my lines usually wouldn't end up straight, or I wouldn't ghost enough, or I would completely miss the mark when trying to draw the last three lines. I think at this point everything is going to be kinda bad no matter what so the most important thing is to just work through it and not stress out about it *too* much. | 1 | 5,238 | 1.4 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | froagj7 | froke88 | 1,590,335,613 | 1,590,340,484 | 4 | 7 | Hey, I’m also doing the challenge. As the other user said, you don’t have to have perfect lines. And you shouldn’t go back to try to fix the them either. The only thing you can do is really go with the ghosting technique to improve them. But one of the objectives of drawabox (that I understood so far) is for people to embrace failure and erros. The other thing that I noticed: I think you are extending the perspective lines way too much, it’s really difficult to analyze this way. It is not supposed to look pretty and you have to let go of this idea for future exercises. Good luck!! | Re-read the text on foreshortening – shallow and dramatic. It helped me understand the concept. Also, I saw your drawing and most of it seems to have parallel lines. I think it's better if you these parallel lines meet a vanishing point, atleast start out with dramatic foreshortening as it will be easy for visualising within the page. This way you'll avoid the parallel lines cubix syndrome. Even I had that as a beginner. :D | 0 | 4,871 | 1.75 | ||
gpphxp | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | Help, feeling super lost with the 250 box challenge Here's some of my last boxes I watched the video and read the instructions many times, and I'm on box 86 now. But I feel so lost. I've tried ghosting towards the vanishing point and trying to visualize the lines, but it feels like I'm just guessing each time. It takes me about 5-10 min to do each box. At one point I started drawing 3 boxes per page (I'm using A3 divided in half) because I really needed to see the full extension of the lines. Then I find the mistakes and correct them, I even started "grading" my boxes, seeing how many lines were correct, how many with minor mistakes and how many lines were flat out wrong. Am I overthinking this? Also, my lines are terrible, I think I destroyed the only two fine liners I have so they're not a consistent weight. Then I go over them to fix, but it ends up fraying and becoming a hot mess. Did you also feel like you were just going by instinct or were you super careful? What were your "techniques"? How good is good enough? Any tips on making the lines look less messy? Help please. | fro9nyx | fro8hxn | 1,590,335,246 | 1,590,334,714 | 5 | 4 | after four months and a couple breaks I'm finally on box 200 and I am definitely not proud of most of the boxes I've made. it was only until box 170 when there would be 1 box out of every batch of 8 where everything felt natural and I could visualize where the lines should extend to and connect. but even then my lines usually wouldn't end up straight, or I wouldn't ghost enough, or I would completely miss the mark when trying to draw the last three lines. I think at this point everything is going to be kinda bad no matter what so the most important thing is to just work through it and not stress out about it *too* much. | I am doing the challenge as well, I can tell you my lines are not even near perfection but also that the exercise is not about that, you're not doing architecture, it's just to get you used to 3d space, and have a more intuitive sense of how those boxes sit in space. I think making actual good boxes will come later, keep going at the best of your ability | 1 | 532 | 1.25 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilcl20y | ilby4t1 | 1,661,190,579 | 1,661,181,765 | 28 | 1 | 1. You get out what you put in. Be honest with yourself about your level of effort and what you can sustain for months. Don't try to do too much at once and burn out. 2. Take what works for you and leave what doesn't. I didn't do 250 boxes all at once. I did them spaced out over several months/lessons. I found the exercise as a whole very valuable but if I had had to sit for weeks doing nothing but boxes I might have quit. On the other hand, don't skip over something entirely just because it's awkward or uncomfortable. I *hated* the rotated boxes exercise, it was so challenging for me. (Honestly, at the time, I didn't fully finish it.) BUT, I realized that that kind of spatial awareness was a weak point for me and I worked on it during the 250-box challenge, and then I went back to the rotated boxes exercise and found it easier. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 8,814 | 28 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilby4t1 | ilece43 | 1,661,181,765 | 1,661,217,241 | 1 | 25 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Keep going, but respect the 50% rule. I started drawing because I wanted to illustrate comic books. During the fun time, do comics, during learning, take the time you need, don't race. Learning something and mastering something are 2 completely different games. Take the time to do the challenges, but don't grind them, balance. | 0 | 35,476 | 25 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ildi5wt | ilby4t1 | 1,661,203,699 | 1,661,181,765 | 21 | 1 | To genuinely do the 50/50 rule (50% of the time studying, the other 50% drawing for fun). It'll put you in a good headspace, show that you are getting better gradually, and show you what you actually are weak at. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 21,934 | 21 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ileczms | ilby4t1 | 1,661,217,510 | 1,661,181,765 | 24 | 1 | To only actually do 150ish of the 250 boxes. I finished the 250 box challenge today and I feel like I stopped learning at the 150 box mark and it started to become simply a chore that drained any motivation I had that day for art, I've lost all my passion and drive for learning art that I had when I had started it two months ago. It's hard for me to even pick up a pen at the moment. This is WITH several breaks and often only doing one page of 5 boxes a day. It has sucked me dry. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 35,745 | 24 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilct2u6 | ilby4t1 | 1,661,193,676 | 1,661,181,765 | 20 | 1 | Stop trying to anticipate the critique you might receive for every thing mark you make. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 11,911 | 20 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ildvz9w | ilby4t1 | 1,661,209,707 | 1,661,181,765 | 21 | 1 | 90% of your time should be spent actually drawing, go through the whole of lessons 1 and 2 and just keep drawing those things like as if you’re doodling. They’re the basis of like everything, so you will always be drawing them. Make it a goal to fill a page, then throw the page out. Just enjoy the process and let your mind take you in random directions as you tinker. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 27,942 | 21 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ileadue | ilby4t1 | 1,661,216,354 | 1,661,181,765 | 20 | 1 | Don’t grind. You will get better fast just to stagnate for 6 months | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 34,589 | 20 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilc4thw | ilby4t1 | 1,661,184,372 | 1,661,181,765 | 12 | 1 | To work exclusively focused and concentrated. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 2,607 | 12 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilby4t1 | ildpf3q | 1,661,181,765 | 1,661,206,820 | 1 | 13 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | That learning is a constant battle. Just because you completed a lesson doesn’t mean you absorbed all of it. My muscle memory is better than my real memory. Haha. You get good at what you draw, and atrophy at what you don’t. You can’t draw everything. But learning always is important. I completed the entire course. I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars. 🚗 Wheels wouldn’t be bad if ellipse templates were cheaper. But they aren’t. I could never find the right ellipse degree. I feel like I botched that. Also I kept screwing up animal faces. Think of animals bone structure which makes up the face forms. Oh, did I mention that I hate cars 🚗 💥 well drawing them that is. Draw cars carefully because you draw so many lines it is hard to keep track what is what between drawing sessions. | 0 | 25,055 | 13 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilfikal | ilby4t1 | 1,661,242,542 | 1,661,181,765 | 8 | 1 | Go easy on yourself - keep practising, keep it fun. You have to make mistakes in order to learn from them and everything that is part of the Drawabox course is just a learning exercise. There will be plenty of mistakes and times where a drawing task feels just beyond what you think you are capable of doing well. Try your best, make mistakes. Sometimes you might surprise yourself, but don't repeat an exercise over and over to try and get it perfect - especially not in the beginning. As you go through the course, it is advised that you use previous exercises as drawing warm-ups anyway, so there is always plenty of time to improve on particular things. Keep on practising. Learning to identify the areas where we make mistakes and being able to analyse *why* we're making those mistakes is an important part of the skillset that is being taught in the course. There will be times when you feel like you are making more mistakes in your drawings and although this can be really frustrating - it is natural to be, I think - the spatial reasoning and mental ability you develop related to drawing and your understanding of drawing concepts can sometimes outpace your physical drawing skills and so you will recognise your own mistakes more, that is all. Keep on. The 50/50 rule is also important. Make sure you're having fun with drawing and trying to focus on drawing outside of the Drawabox course. Keep hold of drawings you've made so you can look back on them while you are learning. Sometimes progress can be hard to see in our own work and we compare what we do to others, so it is good to be able to look back on work you made a month ago, a year ago, etc. and see how you've improved. It could also help you identify mistakes you are still making. Plus, it's fun to look back on goofy drawings and doodles. Keep a small sketchbook with you for this also - if you ever feel like doodling or have an idea you want to get down, it's there. Keep having fun. Try not to rush through the lessons and give yourself time to absorb what you are learning. Some days are going to be more of a struggle than others and that's fine. If something is frustrating, take a break - do something completely different and come back to it later. Travel at your own pace, keep learning. I think the ellipse guide will only come in for the last two lessons of the course (correct me if I'm wrong - I am currently on lesson 5.. ) Join in with communities related to Drawabox, too (whether through social media, reddit, Drawabox website/discord, etc. etc.) as you work through the course. It's important to get feedback on your work. It can be a good way to meet like-minded people, too. Good luck ! | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 60,777 | 8 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilby4t1 | ild96yw | 1,661,181,765 | 1,661,200,061 | 1 | 7 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Thinking I need equipment to get started at all. Sure it helps to have special pencils that glide better, and special black pens to ink your drawings… But it doesn’t hurt to just doodle with what you got! You’ll learn a lot from the course, but you aren’t gonna stop at doing squares and circles. And you may not always be next to your equipment, so just draw! If you have free time, fill some loose leaf or stickie notes with the exercises and maybe even stick figures and characters and try your best with real things(they won’t be great at first but that’s the point to just do it!). A sketchbook is nice too so you have all of your ideas in one place, though I think that’s in the list of equipment too. And if and when you may run out of the equipment as is inevitable, it doesn’t hurt to just practice the exercises even if all you have is a simple Number 2 pencil laying around. Don’t get me wrong, I know the course recommends the ink and the pencils, and they are great and help with quality and you should get them if you’re serious for sure, but people always say “it isn’t the tool itself that makes the artist, but the artist themselves” | 0 | 18,296 | 7 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilby4t1 | ilfew0i | 1,661,181,765 | 1,661,239,468 | 1 | 2 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Really think about the marks you're making. Turn the time you spend on drawabox into focused practice. Draw that box. Think about its perspective, how it changes as the box moves in space. How does this change if I want the box to be far away? What about really close? Try different FOVs. Experiment. Question. Play. Best of luck on your journey brother 🎨 | 0 | 57,703 | 2 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilc4thw | ilcl20y | 1,661,184,372 | 1,661,190,579 | 12 | 28 | To work exclusively focused and concentrated. | 1. You get out what you put in. Be honest with yourself about your level of effort and what you can sustain for months. Don't try to do too much at once and burn out. 2. Take what works for you and leave what doesn't. I didn't do 250 boxes all at once. I did them spaced out over several months/lessons. I found the exercise as a whole very valuable but if I had had to sit for weeks doing nothing but boxes I might have quit. On the other hand, don't skip over something entirely just because it's awkward or uncomfortable. I *hated* the rotated boxes exercise, it was so challenging for me. (Honestly, at the time, I didn't fully finish it.) BUT, I realized that that kind of spatial awareness was a weak point for me and I worked on it during the 250-box challenge, and then I went back to the rotated boxes exercise and found it easier. | 0 | 6,207 | 2.333333 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilece43 | ildi5wt | 1,661,217,241 | 1,661,203,699 | 25 | 21 | Keep going, but respect the 50% rule. I started drawing because I wanted to illustrate comic books. During the fun time, do comics, during learning, take the time you need, don't race. Learning something and mastering something are 2 completely different games. Take the time to do the challenges, but don't grind them, balance. | To genuinely do the 50/50 rule (50% of the time studying, the other 50% drawing for fun). It'll put you in a good headspace, show that you are getting better gradually, and show you what you actually are weak at. | 1 | 13,542 | 1.190476 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilct2u6 | ilece43 | 1,661,193,676 | 1,661,217,241 | 20 | 25 | Stop trying to anticipate the critique you might receive for every thing mark you make. | Keep going, but respect the 50% rule. I started drawing because I wanted to illustrate comic books. During the fun time, do comics, during learning, take the time you need, don't race. Learning something and mastering something are 2 completely different games. Take the time to do the challenges, but don't grind them, balance. | 0 | 23,565 | 1.25 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilece43 | ildvz9w | 1,661,217,241 | 1,661,209,707 | 25 | 21 | Keep going, but respect the 50% rule. I started drawing because I wanted to illustrate comic books. During the fun time, do comics, during learning, take the time you need, don't race. Learning something and mastering something are 2 completely different games. Take the time to do the challenges, but don't grind them, balance. | 90% of your time should be spent actually drawing, go through the whole of lessons 1 and 2 and just keep drawing those things like as if you’re doodling. They’re the basis of like everything, so you will always be drawing them. Make it a goal to fill a page, then throw the page out. Just enjoy the process and let your mind take you in random directions as you tinker. | 1 | 7,534 | 1.190476 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ileadue | ilece43 | 1,661,216,354 | 1,661,217,241 | 20 | 25 | Don’t grind. You will get better fast just to stagnate for 6 months | Keep going, but respect the 50% rule. I started drawing because I wanted to illustrate comic books. During the fun time, do comics, during learning, take the time you need, don't race. Learning something and mastering something are 2 completely different games. Take the time to do the challenges, but don't grind them, balance. | 0 | 887 | 1.25 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilc4thw | ilece43 | 1,661,184,372 | 1,661,217,241 | 12 | 25 | To work exclusively focused and concentrated. | Keep going, but respect the 50% rule. I started drawing because I wanted to illustrate comic books. During the fun time, do comics, during learning, take the time you need, don't race. Learning something and mastering something are 2 completely different games. Take the time to do the challenges, but don't grind them, balance. | 0 | 32,869 | 2.083333 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilece43 | ildpf3q | 1,661,217,241 | 1,661,206,820 | 25 | 13 | Keep going, but respect the 50% rule. I started drawing because I wanted to illustrate comic books. During the fun time, do comics, during learning, take the time you need, don't race. Learning something and mastering something are 2 completely different games. Take the time to do the challenges, but don't grind them, balance. | That learning is a constant battle. Just because you completed a lesson doesn’t mean you absorbed all of it. My muscle memory is better than my real memory. Haha. You get good at what you draw, and atrophy at what you don’t. You can’t draw everything. But learning always is important. I completed the entire course. I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars. 🚗 Wheels wouldn’t be bad if ellipse templates were cheaper. But they aren’t. I could never find the right ellipse degree. I feel like I botched that. Also I kept screwing up animal faces. Think of animals bone structure which makes up the face forms. Oh, did I mention that I hate cars 🚗 💥 well drawing them that is. Draw cars carefully because you draw so many lines it is hard to keep track what is what between drawing sessions. | 1 | 10,421 | 1.923077 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilece43 | ild96yw | 1,661,217,241 | 1,661,200,061 | 25 | 7 | Keep going, but respect the 50% rule. I started drawing because I wanted to illustrate comic books. During the fun time, do comics, during learning, take the time you need, don't race. Learning something and mastering something are 2 completely different games. Take the time to do the challenges, but don't grind them, balance. | Thinking I need equipment to get started at all. Sure it helps to have special pencils that glide better, and special black pens to ink your drawings… But it doesn’t hurt to just doodle with what you got! You’ll learn a lot from the course, but you aren’t gonna stop at doing squares and circles. And you may not always be next to your equipment, so just draw! If you have free time, fill some loose leaf or stickie notes with the exercises and maybe even stick figures and characters and try your best with real things(they won’t be great at first but that’s the point to just do it!). A sketchbook is nice too so you have all of your ideas in one place, though I think that’s in the list of equipment too. And if and when you may run out of the equipment as is inevitable, it doesn’t hurt to just practice the exercises even if all you have is a simple Number 2 pencil laying around. Don’t get me wrong, I know the course recommends the ink and the pencils, and they are great and help with quality and you should get them if you’re serious for sure, but people always say “it isn’t the tool itself that makes the artist, but the artist themselves” | 1 | 17,180 | 3.571429 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ileczms | ildi5wt | 1,661,217,510 | 1,661,203,699 | 24 | 21 | To only actually do 150ish of the 250 boxes. I finished the 250 box challenge today and I feel like I stopped learning at the 150 box mark and it started to become simply a chore that drained any motivation I had that day for art, I've lost all my passion and drive for learning art that I had when I had started it two months ago. It's hard for me to even pick up a pen at the moment. This is WITH several breaks and often only doing one page of 5 boxes a day. It has sucked me dry. | To genuinely do the 50/50 rule (50% of the time studying, the other 50% drawing for fun). It'll put you in a good headspace, show that you are getting better gradually, and show you what you actually are weak at. | 1 | 13,811 | 1.142857 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilct2u6 | ildi5wt | 1,661,193,676 | 1,661,203,699 | 20 | 21 | Stop trying to anticipate the critique you might receive for every thing mark you make. | To genuinely do the 50/50 rule (50% of the time studying, the other 50% drawing for fun). It'll put you in a good headspace, show that you are getting better gradually, and show you what you actually are weak at. | 0 | 10,023 | 1.05 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilc4thw | ildi5wt | 1,661,184,372 | 1,661,203,699 | 12 | 21 | To work exclusively focused and concentrated. | To genuinely do the 50/50 rule (50% of the time studying, the other 50% drawing for fun). It'll put you in a good headspace, show that you are getting better gradually, and show you what you actually are weak at. | 0 | 19,327 | 1.75 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ildi5wt | ild96yw | 1,661,203,699 | 1,661,200,061 | 21 | 7 | To genuinely do the 50/50 rule (50% of the time studying, the other 50% drawing for fun). It'll put you in a good headspace, show that you are getting better gradually, and show you what you actually are weak at. | Thinking I need equipment to get started at all. Sure it helps to have special pencils that glide better, and special black pens to ink your drawings… But it doesn’t hurt to just doodle with what you got! You’ll learn a lot from the course, but you aren’t gonna stop at doing squares and circles. And you may not always be next to your equipment, so just draw! If you have free time, fill some loose leaf or stickie notes with the exercises and maybe even stick figures and characters and try your best with real things(they won’t be great at first but that’s the point to just do it!). A sketchbook is nice too so you have all of your ideas in one place, though I think that’s in the list of equipment too. And if and when you may run out of the equipment as is inevitable, it doesn’t hurt to just practice the exercises even if all you have is a simple Number 2 pencil laying around. Don’t get me wrong, I know the course recommends the ink and the pencils, and they are great and help with quality and you should get them if you’re serious for sure, but people always say “it isn’t the tool itself that makes the artist, but the artist themselves” | 1 | 3,638 | 3 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ileczms | ilct2u6 | 1,661,217,510 | 1,661,193,676 | 24 | 20 | To only actually do 150ish of the 250 boxes. I finished the 250 box challenge today and I feel like I stopped learning at the 150 box mark and it started to become simply a chore that drained any motivation I had that day for art, I've lost all my passion and drive for learning art that I had when I had started it two months ago. It's hard for me to even pick up a pen at the moment. This is WITH several breaks and often only doing one page of 5 boxes a day. It has sucked me dry. | Stop trying to anticipate the critique you might receive for every thing mark you make. | 1 | 23,834 | 1.2 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ildvz9w | ileczms | 1,661,209,707 | 1,661,217,510 | 21 | 24 | 90% of your time should be spent actually drawing, go through the whole of lessons 1 and 2 and just keep drawing those things like as if you’re doodling. They’re the basis of like everything, so you will always be drawing them. Make it a goal to fill a page, then throw the page out. Just enjoy the process and let your mind take you in random directions as you tinker. | To only actually do 150ish of the 250 boxes. I finished the 250 box challenge today and I feel like I stopped learning at the 150 box mark and it started to become simply a chore that drained any motivation I had that day for art, I've lost all my passion and drive for learning art that I had when I had started it two months ago. It's hard for me to even pick up a pen at the moment. This is WITH several breaks and often only doing one page of 5 boxes a day. It has sucked me dry. | 0 | 7,803 | 1.142857 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ileczms | ileadue | 1,661,217,510 | 1,661,216,354 | 24 | 20 | To only actually do 150ish of the 250 boxes. I finished the 250 box challenge today and I feel like I stopped learning at the 150 box mark and it started to become simply a chore that drained any motivation I had that day for art, I've lost all my passion and drive for learning art that I had when I had started it two months ago. It's hard for me to even pick up a pen at the moment. This is WITH several breaks and often only doing one page of 5 boxes a day. It has sucked me dry. | Don’t grind. You will get better fast just to stagnate for 6 months | 1 | 1,156 | 1.2 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilc4thw | ileczms | 1,661,184,372 | 1,661,217,510 | 12 | 24 | To work exclusively focused and concentrated. | To only actually do 150ish of the 250 boxes. I finished the 250 box challenge today and I feel like I stopped learning at the 150 box mark and it started to become simply a chore that drained any motivation I had that day for art, I've lost all my passion and drive for learning art that I had when I had started it two months ago. It's hard for me to even pick up a pen at the moment. This is WITH several breaks and often only doing one page of 5 boxes a day. It has sucked me dry. | 0 | 33,138 | 2 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ildpf3q | ileczms | 1,661,206,820 | 1,661,217,510 | 13 | 24 | That learning is a constant battle. Just because you completed a lesson doesn’t mean you absorbed all of it. My muscle memory is better than my real memory. Haha. You get good at what you draw, and atrophy at what you don’t. You can’t draw everything. But learning always is important. I completed the entire course. I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars. 🚗 Wheels wouldn’t be bad if ellipse templates were cheaper. But they aren’t. I could never find the right ellipse degree. I feel like I botched that. Also I kept screwing up animal faces. Think of animals bone structure which makes up the face forms. Oh, did I mention that I hate cars 🚗 💥 well drawing them that is. Draw cars carefully because you draw so many lines it is hard to keep track what is what between drawing sessions. | To only actually do 150ish of the 250 boxes. I finished the 250 box challenge today and I feel like I stopped learning at the 150 box mark and it started to become simply a chore that drained any motivation I had that day for art, I've lost all my passion and drive for learning art that I had when I had started it two months ago. It's hard for me to even pick up a pen at the moment. This is WITH several breaks and often only doing one page of 5 boxes a day. It has sucked me dry. | 0 | 10,690 | 1.846154 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ileczms | ild96yw | 1,661,217,510 | 1,661,200,061 | 24 | 7 | To only actually do 150ish of the 250 boxes. I finished the 250 box challenge today and I feel like I stopped learning at the 150 box mark and it started to become simply a chore that drained any motivation I had that day for art, I've lost all my passion and drive for learning art that I had when I had started it two months ago. It's hard for me to even pick up a pen at the moment. This is WITH several breaks and often only doing one page of 5 boxes a day. It has sucked me dry. | Thinking I need equipment to get started at all. Sure it helps to have special pencils that glide better, and special black pens to ink your drawings… But it doesn’t hurt to just doodle with what you got! You’ll learn a lot from the course, but you aren’t gonna stop at doing squares and circles. And you may not always be next to your equipment, so just draw! If you have free time, fill some loose leaf or stickie notes with the exercises and maybe even stick figures and characters and try your best with real things(they won’t be great at first but that’s the point to just do it!). A sketchbook is nice too so you have all of your ideas in one place, though I think that’s in the list of equipment too. And if and when you may run out of the equipment as is inevitable, it doesn’t hurt to just practice the exercises even if all you have is a simple Number 2 pencil laying around. Don’t get me wrong, I know the course recommends the ink and the pencils, and they are great and help with quality and you should get them if you’re serious for sure, but people always say “it isn’t the tool itself that makes the artist, but the artist themselves” | 1 | 17,449 | 3.428571 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ildvz9w | ilct2u6 | 1,661,209,707 | 1,661,193,676 | 21 | 20 | 90% of your time should be spent actually drawing, go through the whole of lessons 1 and 2 and just keep drawing those things like as if you’re doodling. They’re the basis of like everything, so you will always be drawing them. Make it a goal to fill a page, then throw the page out. Just enjoy the process and let your mind take you in random directions as you tinker. | Stop trying to anticipate the critique you might receive for every thing mark you make. | 1 | 16,031 | 1.05 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilct2u6 | ilc4thw | 1,661,193,676 | 1,661,184,372 | 20 | 12 | Stop trying to anticipate the critique you might receive for every thing mark you make. | To work exclusively focused and concentrated. | 1 | 9,304 | 1.666667 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilc4thw | ildvz9w | 1,661,184,372 | 1,661,209,707 | 12 | 21 | To work exclusively focused and concentrated. | 90% of your time should be spent actually drawing, go through the whole of lessons 1 and 2 and just keep drawing those things like as if you’re doodling. They’re the basis of like everything, so you will always be drawing them. Make it a goal to fill a page, then throw the page out. Just enjoy the process and let your mind take you in random directions as you tinker. | 0 | 25,335 | 1.75 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ildvz9w | ildpf3q | 1,661,209,707 | 1,661,206,820 | 21 | 13 | 90% of your time should be spent actually drawing, go through the whole of lessons 1 and 2 and just keep drawing those things like as if you’re doodling. They’re the basis of like everything, so you will always be drawing them. Make it a goal to fill a page, then throw the page out. Just enjoy the process and let your mind take you in random directions as you tinker. | That learning is a constant battle. Just because you completed a lesson doesn’t mean you absorbed all of it. My muscle memory is better than my real memory. Haha. You get good at what you draw, and atrophy at what you don’t. You can’t draw everything. But learning always is important. I completed the entire course. I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars. 🚗 Wheels wouldn’t be bad if ellipse templates were cheaper. But they aren’t. I could never find the right ellipse degree. I feel like I botched that. Also I kept screwing up animal faces. Think of animals bone structure which makes up the face forms. Oh, did I mention that I hate cars 🚗 💥 well drawing them that is. Draw cars carefully because you draw so many lines it is hard to keep track what is what between drawing sessions. | 1 | 2,887 | 1.615385 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ildvz9w | ild96yw | 1,661,209,707 | 1,661,200,061 | 21 | 7 | 90% of your time should be spent actually drawing, go through the whole of lessons 1 and 2 and just keep drawing those things like as if you’re doodling. They’re the basis of like everything, so you will always be drawing them. Make it a goal to fill a page, then throw the page out. Just enjoy the process and let your mind take you in random directions as you tinker. | Thinking I need equipment to get started at all. Sure it helps to have special pencils that glide better, and special black pens to ink your drawings… But it doesn’t hurt to just doodle with what you got! You’ll learn a lot from the course, but you aren’t gonna stop at doing squares and circles. And you may not always be next to your equipment, so just draw! If you have free time, fill some loose leaf or stickie notes with the exercises and maybe even stick figures and characters and try your best with real things(they won’t be great at first but that’s the point to just do it!). A sketchbook is nice too so you have all of your ideas in one place, though I think that’s in the list of equipment too. And if and when you may run out of the equipment as is inevitable, it doesn’t hurt to just practice the exercises even if all you have is a simple Number 2 pencil laying around. Don’t get me wrong, I know the course recommends the ink and the pencils, and they are great and help with quality and you should get them if you’re serious for sure, but people always say “it isn’t the tool itself that makes the artist, but the artist themselves” | 1 | 9,646 | 3 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilc4thw | ileadue | 1,661,184,372 | 1,661,216,354 | 12 | 20 | To work exclusively focused and concentrated. | Don’t grind. You will get better fast just to stagnate for 6 months | 0 | 31,982 | 1.666667 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ildpf3q | ileadue | 1,661,206,820 | 1,661,216,354 | 13 | 20 | That learning is a constant battle. Just because you completed a lesson doesn’t mean you absorbed all of it. My muscle memory is better than my real memory. Haha. You get good at what you draw, and atrophy at what you don’t. You can’t draw everything. But learning always is important. I completed the entire course. I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars. 🚗 Wheels wouldn’t be bad if ellipse templates were cheaper. But they aren’t. I could never find the right ellipse degree. I feel like I botched that. Also I kept screwing up animal faces. Think of animals bone structure which makes up the face forms. Oh, did I mention that I hate cars 🚗 💥 well drawing them that is. Draw cars carefully because you draw so many lines it is hard to keep track what is what between drawing sessions. | Don’t grind. You will get better fast just to stagnate for 6 months | 0 | 9,534 | 1.538462 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ild96yw | ileadue | 1,661,200,061 | 1,661,216,354 | 7 | 20 | Thinking I need equipment to get started at all. Sure it helps to have special pencils that glide better, and special black pens to ink your drawings… But it doesn’t hurt to just doodle with what you got! You’ll learn a lot from the course, but you aren’t gonna stop at doing squares and circles. And you may not always be next to your equipment, so just draw! If you have free time, fill some loose leaf or stickie notes with the exercises and maybe even stick figures and characters and try your best with real things(they won’t be great at first but that’s the point to just do it!). A sketchbook is nice too so you have all of your ideas in one place, though I think that’s in the list of equipment too. And if and when you may run out of the equipment as is inevitable, it doesn’t hurt to just practice the exercises even if all you have is a simple Number 2 pencil laying around. Don’t get me wrong, I know the course recommends the ink and the pencils, and they are great and help with quality and you should get them if you’re serious for sure, but people always say “it isn’t the tool itself that makes the artist, but the artist themselves” | Don’t grind. You will get better fast just to stagnate for 6 months | 0 | 16,293 | 2.857143 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilc4thw | ildpf3q | 1,661,184,372 | 1,661,206,820 | 12 | 13 | To work exclusively focused and concentrated. | That learning is a constant battle. Just because you completed a lesson doesn’t mean you absorbed all of it. My muscle memory is better than my real memory. Haha. You get good at what you draw, and atrophy at what you don’t. You can’t draw everything. But learning always is important. I completed the entire course. I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars. 🚗 Wheels wouldn’t be bad if ellipse templates were cheaper. But they aren’t. I could never find the right ellipse degree. I feel like I botched that. Also I kept screwing up animal faces. Think of animals bone structure which makes up the face forms. Oh, did I mention that I hate cars 🚗 💥 well drawing them that is. Draw cars carefully because you draw so many lines it is hard to keep track what is what between drawing sessions. | 0 | 22,448 | 1.083333 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ild96yw | ildpf3q | 1,661,200,061 | 1,661,206,820 | 7 | 13 | Thinking I need equipment to get started at all. Sure it helps to have special pencils that glide better, and special black pens to ink your drawings… But it doesn’t hurt to just doodle with what you got! You’ll learn a lot from the course, but you aren’t gonna stop at doing squares and circles. And you may not always be next to your equipment, so just draw! If you have free time, fill some loose leaf or stickie notes with the exercises and maybe even stick figures and characters and try your best with real things(they won’t be great at first but that’s the point to just do it!). A sketchbook is nice too so you have all of your ideas in one place, though I think that’s in the list of equipment too. And if and when you may run out of the equipment as is inevitable, it doesn’t hurt to just practice the exercises even if all you have is a simple Number 2 pencil laying around. Don’t get me wrong, I know the course recommends the ink and the pencils, and they are great and help with quality and you should get them if you’re serious for sure, but people always say “it isn’t the tool itself that makes the artist, but the artist themselves” | That learning is a constant battle. Just because you completed a lesson doesn’t mean you absorbed all of it. My muscle memory is better than my real memory. Haha. You get good at what you draw, and atrophy at what you don’t. You can’t draw everything. But learning always is important. I completed the entire course. I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars 🚗 I hate cars. 🚗 Wheels wouldn’t be bad if ellipse templates were cheaper. But they aren’t. I could never find the right ellipse degree. I feel like I botched that. Also I kept screwing up animal faces. Think of animals bone structure which makes up the face forms. Oh, did I mention that I hate cars 🚗 💥 well drawing them that is. Draw cars carefully because you draw so many lines it is hard to keep track what is what between drawing sessions. | 0 | 6,759 | 1.857143 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilfikal | ild96yw | 1,661,242,542 | 1,661,200,061 | 8 | 7 | Go easy on yourself - keep practising, keep it fun. You have to make mistakes in order to learn from them and everything that is part of the Drawabox course is just a learning exercise. There will be plenty of mistakes and times where a drawing task feels just beyond what you think you are capable of doing well. Try your best, make mistakes. Sometimes you might surprise yourself, but don't repeat an exercise over and over to try and get it perfect - especially not in the beginning. As you go through the course, it is advised that you use previous exercises as drawing warm-ups anyway, so there is always plenty of time to improve on particular things. Keep on practising. Learning to identify the areas where we make mistakes and being able to analyse *why* we're making those mistakes is an important part of the skillset that is being taught in the course. There will be times when you feel like you are making more mistakes in your drawings and although this can be really frustrating - it is natural to be, I think - the spatial reasoning and mental ability you develop related to drawing and your understanding of drawing concepts can sometimes outpace your physical drawing skills and so you will recognise your own mistakes more, that is all. Keep on. The 50/50 rule is also important. Make sure you're having fun with drawing and trying to focus on drawing outside of the Drawabox course. Keep hold of drawings you've made so you can look back on them while you are learning. Sometimes progress can be hard to see in our own work and we compare what we do to others, so it is good to be able to look back on work you made a month ago, a year ago, etc. and see how you've improved. It could also help you identify mistakes you are still making. Plus, it's fun to look back on goofy drawings and doodles. Keep a small sketchbook with you for this also - if you ever feel like doodling or have an idea you want to get down, it's there. Keep having fun. Try not to rush through the lessons and give yourself time to absorb what you are learning. Some days are going to be more of a struggle than others and that's fine. If something is frustrating, take a break - do something completely different and come back to it later. Travel at your own pace, keep learning. I think the ellipse guide will only come in for the last two lessons of the course (correct me if I'm wrong - I am currently on lesson 5.. ) Join in with communities related to Drawabox, too (whether through social media, reddit, Drawabox website/discord, etc. etc.) as you work through the course. It's important to get feedback on your work. It can be a good way to meet like-minded people, too. Good luck ! | Thinking I need equipment to get started at all. Sure it helps to have special pencils that glide better, and special black pens to ink your drawings… But it doesn’t hurt to just doodle with what you got! You’ll learn a lot from the course, but you aren’t gonna stop at doing squares and circles. And you may not always be next to your equipment, so just draw! If you have free time, fill some loose leaf or stickie notes with the exercises and maybe even stick figures and characters and try your best with real things(they won’t be great at first but that’s the point to just do it!). A sketchbook is nice too so you have all of your ideas in one place, though I think that’s in the list of equipment too. And if and when you may run out of the equipment as is inevitable, it doesn’t hurt to just practice the exercises even if all you have is a simple Number 2 pencil laying around. Don’t get me wrong, I know the course recommends the ink and the pencils, and they are great and help with quality and you should get them if you’re serious for sure, but people always say “it isn’t the tool itself that makes the artist, but the artist themselves” | 1 | 42,481 | 1.142857 | ||
wuwi9m | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | For those of you who have finished this course or are half way through, what would you tell past you who was at the beginning? I’m curious what ‘mistakes’ you made or what you would change if you were to start the course again? I’m just about to start (the free one for now) and I’m super excited. Just ordering supplies today. When do the ellipses come in? Wondering if I need to order them now… Thank you! | ilfew0i | ilfikal | 1,661,239,468 | 1,661,242,542 | 2 | 8 | Really think about the marks you're making. Turn the time you spend on drawabox into focused practice. Draw that box. Think about its perspective, how it changes as the box moves in space. How does this change if I want the box to be far away? What about really close? Try different FOVs. Experiment. Question. Play. Best of luck on your journey brother 🎨 | Go easy on yourself - keep practising, keep it fun. You have to make mistakes in order to learn from them and everything that is part of the Drawabox course is just a learning exercise. There will be plenty of mistakes and times where a drawing task feels just beyond what you think you are capable of doing well. Try your best, make mistakes. Sometimes you might surprise yourself, but don't repeat an exercise over and over to try and get it perfect - especially not in the beginning. As you go through the course, it is advised that you use previous exercises as drawing warm-ups anyway, so there is always plenty of time to improve on particular things. Keep on practising. Learning to identify the areas where we make mistakes and being able to analyse *why* we're making those mistakes is an important part of the skillset that is being taught in the course. There will be times when you feel like you are making more mistakes in your drawings and although this can be really frustrating - it is natural to be, I think - the spatial reasoning and mental ability you develop related to drawing and your understanding of drawing concepts can sometimes outpace your physical drawing skills and so you will recognise your own mistakes more, that is all. Keep on. The 50/50 rule is also important. Make sure you're having fun with drawing and trying to focus on drawing outside of the Drawabox course. Keep hold of drawings you've made so you can look back on them while you are learning. Sometimes progress can be hard to see in our own work and we compare what we do to others, so it is good to be able to look back on work you made a month ago, a year ago, etc. and see how you've improved. It could also help you identify mistakes you are still making. Plus, it's fun to look back on goofy drawings and doodles. Keep a small sketchbook with you for this also - if you ever feel like doodling or have an idea you want to get down, it's there. Keep having fun. Try not to rush through the lessons and give yourself time to absorb what you are learning. Some days are going to be more of a struggle than others and that's fine. If something is frustrating, take a break - do something completely different and come back to it later. Travel at your own pace, keep learning. I think the ellipse guide will only come in for the last two lessons of the course (correct me if I'm wrong - I am currently on lesson 5.. ) Join in with communities related to Drawabox, too (whether through social media, reddit, Drawabox website/discord, etc. etc.) as you work through the course. It's important to get feedback on your work. It can be a good way to meet like-minded people, too. Good luck ! | 0 | 3,074 | 4 | ||
xiy2kj | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | CGMA's "Dynamic Sketching 1 & 2" v.s. Drawabox: what is the difference between them? For those of you who have completed CGMA's "Dynamic Sketching 1 & 2" courses, how do they differ from Drawabox? I've seen the syllabuses for the CGMA courses (available here and here), but they cover pretty much the same ground as Drawabox - just with more emphasis on producing more refined drawings using pen and markets, and some extra design exercises. I've noted that /u/Uncomfortable has sometimes said Drawabox is a sort of "precursor" for the paid "Dynamic Sketching" courses available at CGMA or other aveues. But if the course material is almost the same, is he doing self-deprecation and playing down Drawabox? | ip7d899 | ip5iw7z | 1,663,687,303 | 1,663,645,348 | 4 | 1 | My opinion is that having the absolute fundamentals from Drawabox can ensure you get the most value from the more expensive/personal courses. But I’m assuming you’re trying to evaluate whether you might do Drawabox then sign up for $1400 of coursework only to find out it’s not worth the money. I’d love to hear what others may have experience with in that regard. It would be nice to understand how much value is added by those courses before going to the more advanced courses or whether Drawabox leaves any gaps in the prerequisite learning for the more advanced courses. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 41,955 | 4 | ||
xiy2kj | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | CGMA's "Dynamic Sketching 1 & 2" v.s. Drawabox: what is the difference between them? For those of you who have completed CGMA's "Dynamic Sketching 1 & 2" courses, how do they differ from Drawabox? I've seen the syllabuses for the CGMA courses (available here and here), but they cover pretty much the same ground as Drawabox - just with more emphasis on producing more refined drawings using pen and markets, and some extra design exercises. I've noted that /u/Uncomfortable has sometimes said Drawabox is a sort of "precursor" for the paid "Dynamic Sketching" courses available at CGMA or other aveues. But if the course material is almost the same, is he doing self-deprecation and playing down Drawabox? | ip9mi45 | ip5iw7z | 1,663,719,740 | 1,663,645,348 | 2 | 1 | I haven't done those courses yet so take this with a grain of salt, but from what I understand the topics themselves are similar but CGMA goes into more advanced stuff and doesn't go through the absolute basics as much as DaB. That's why doing DaB first helps you get more out of CGMA, since you already have the basics down you can focus on the more advanced topics. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 74,392 | 2 | ||
xiy2kj | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | CGMA's "Dynamic Sketching 1 & 2" v.s. Drawabox: what is the difference between them? For those of you who have completed CGMA's "Dynamic Sketching 1 & 2" courses, how do they differ from Drawabox? I've seen the syllabuses for the CGMA courses (available here and here), but they cover pretty much the same ground as Drawabox - just with more emphasis on producing more refined drawings using pen and markets, and some extra design exercises. I've noted that /u/Uncomfortable has sometimes said Drawabox is a sort of "precursor" for the paid "Dynamic Sketching" courses available at CGMA or other aveues. But if the course material is almost the same, is he doing self-deprecation and playing down Drawabox? | ipmdzzs | ip5iw7z | 1,663,955,660 | 1,663,645,348 | 2 | 1 | It’s pretty much the same thing, the only difference is they’ll go into a bit more of design ideas and the instructors can guide you more. Plus there’s valuable to being held accountable and structured. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 310,312 | 2 | ||
kooyzr | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is it necessary to submit your work in order to follow along with the drawabox lessons? I don't really have access to anything that would allow me to scan the work I'd do when trying to practice during the "homework" assignments. I'm currently using one of those slide-out text-pad phones with a SUPER low quality camera on it, and I sold my printer/scanner months ago for some extra cash because of lack of income due to the ongoing pandemic. Is it fine to proceed with the courses and lessons, doing all the assigned work, while not having others review your work, and just self-evaluating? Because "getting back into drawing" was one of my resolutions, since I've been putting it off for far too long, and people suggested that drawabox is a good place to get started. I have a few of the other less costly required items, like the ruler and fine-liner pens. | ghse8mg | ghsmsd3 | 1,609,555,420 | 1,609,560,220 | 19 | 33 | I think the main thing is to just get to drawing. Certainly don't let this be the excuse for why you didn't draw more or do the exercises. The critiques are helpful but not essential. | I'd recommend you to look for homework posts here, and learn what are the mistakes people make, so you can evaluate your own homework. Just learn to jusge and then judge by yourself | 0 | 4,800 | 1.736842 | ||
kooyzr | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is it necessary to submit your work in order to follow along with the drawabox lessons? I don't really have access to anything that would allow me to scan the work I'd do when trying to practice during the "homework" assignments. I'm currently using one of those slide-out text-pad phones with a SUPER low quality camera on it, and I sold my printer/scanner months ago for some extra cash because of lack of income due to the ongoing pandemic. Is it fine to proceed with the courses and lessons, doing all the assigned work, while not having others review your work, and just self-evaluating? Because "getting back into drawing" was one of my resolutions, since I've been putting it off for far too long, and people suggested that drawabox is a good place to get started. I have a few of the other less costly required items, like the ruler and fine-liner pens. | ghse6u4 | ghsmsd3 | 1,609,555,393 | 1,609,560,220 | 14 | 33 | Nope! You can just follow along as you go. That being said, it's the best help you can get as an artist and you can always post a picture you take with your phone if you have one. Show it to others in person whether they're super familiar or not with art and ask for some objective eyes! Best of luck | I'd recommend you to look for homework posts here, and learn what are the mistakes people make, so you can evaluate your own homework. Just learn to jusge and then judge by yourself | 0 | 4,827 | 2.357143 | ||
kooyzr | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is it necessary to submit your work in order to follow along with the drawabox lessons? I don't really have access to anything that would allow me to scan the work I'd do when trying to practice during the "homework" assignments. I'm currently using one of those slide-out text-pad phones with a SUPER low quality camera on it, and I sold my printer/scanner months ago for some extra cash because of lack of income due to the ongoing pandemic. Is it fine to proceed with the courses and lessons, doing all the assigned work, while not having others review your work, and just self-evaluating? Because "getting back into drawing" was one of my resolutions, since I've been putting it off for far too long, and people suggested that drawabox is a good place to get started. I have a few of the other less costly required items, like the ruler and fine-liner pens. | ghsh4yd | ghsmsd3 | 1,609,557,000 | 1,609,560,220 | 14 | 33 | If you can tell the difference between success and failure you can self evaluate, bonus points if you can tell what you need to do to change a failure into success next time. Sadly the latter part is much harder and the main benefit of sharing your work, but figuring it out yourself through trial and error and more practice has its own benefits, albeit slower overall imagine. | I'd recommend you to look for homework posts here, and learn what are the mistakes people make, so you can evaluate your own homework. Just learn to jusge and then judge by yourself | 0 | 3,220 | 2.357143 | ||
kooyzr | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is it necessary to submit your work in order to follow along with the drawabox lessons? I don't really have access to anything that would allow me to scan the work I'd do when trying to practice during the "homework" assignments. I'm currently using one of those slide-out text-pad phones with a SUPER low quality camera on it, and I sold my printer/scanner months ago for some extra cash because of lack of income due to the ongoing pandemic. Is it fine to proceed with the courses and lessons, doing all the assigned work, while not having others review your work, and just self-evaluating? Because "getting back into drawing" was one of my resolutions, since I've been putting it off for far too long, and people suggested that drawabox is a good place to get started. I have a few of the other less costly required items, like the ruler and fine-liner pens. | ghse6u4 | ghse8mg | 1,609,555,393 | 1,609,555,420 | 14 | 19 | Nope! You can just follow along as you go. That being said, it's the best help you can get as an artist and you can always post a picture you take with your phone if you have one. Show it to others in person whether they're super familiar or not with art and ask for some objective eyes! Best of luck | I think the main thing is to just get to drawing. Certainly don't let this be the excuse for why you didn't draw more or do the exercises. The critiques are helpful but not essential. | 0 | 27 | 1.357143 | ||
kooyzr | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is it necessary to submit your work in order to follow along with the drawabox lessons? I don't really have access to anything that would allow me to scan the work I'd do when trying to practice during the "homework" assignments. I'm currently using one of those slide-out text-pad phones with a SUPER low quality camera on it, and I sold my printer/scanner months ago for some extra cash because of lack of income due to the ongoing pandemic. Is it fine to proceed with the courses and lessons, doing all the assigned work, while not having others review your work, and just self-evaluating? Because "getting back into drawing" was one of my resolutions, since I've been putting it off for far too long, and people suggested that drawabox is a good place to get started. I have a few of the other less costly required items, like the ruler and fine-liner pens. | ghtiyc2 | ghtikp2 | 1,609,587,970 | 1,609,587,568 | 12 | 5 | they're helpful, but not getting critiqued is better than not doing it at all | I don't think it's necessary, but I do think it helps a lot. I've gotten better at seeing the mistakes I'm making, but there's always some use in having another opinion. And improvement will definitely come slower if you brush over mistakes you just haven't realised are there. | 1 | 402 | 2.4 | ||
kooyzr | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is it necessary to submit your work in order to follow along with the drawabox lessons? I don't really have access to anything that would allow me to scan the work I'd do when trying to practice during the "homework" assignments. I'm currently using one of those slide-out text-pad phones with a SUPER low quality camera on it, and I sold my printer/scanner months ago for some extra cash because of lack of income due to the ongoing pandemic. Is it fine to proceed with the courses and lessons, doing all the assigned work, while not having others review your work, and just self-evaluating? Because "getting back into drawing" was one of my resolutions, since I've been putting it off for far too long, and people suggested that drawabox is a good place to get started. I have a few of the other less costly required items, like the ruler and fine-liner pens. | ghtiyc2 | ghtbybj | 1,609,587,970 | 1,609,580,371 | 12 | -8 | they're helpful, but not getting critiqued is better than not doing it at all | Don't you have a close friend with a better camera? Ihave a fking xiaomi 7 and my best friend has an iPhone 8. When I want to take better pics, I ask her, send to my phone and that's it | 1 | 7,599 | -1.5 | ||
kooyzr | artfundamentals_train | 0.98 | Is it necessary to submit your work in order to follow along with the drawabox lessons? I don't really have access to anything that would allow me to scan the work I'd do when trying to practice during the "homework" assignments. I'm currently using one of those slide-out text-pad phones with a SUPER low quality camera on it, and I sold my printer/scanner months ago for some extra cash because of lack of income due to the ongoing pandemic. Is it fine to proceed with the courses and lessons, doing all the assigned work, while not having others review your work, and just self-evaluating? Because "getting back into drawing" was one of my resolutions, since I've been putting it off for far too long, and people suggested that drawabox is a good place to get started. I have a few of the other less costly required items, like the ruler and fine-liner pens. | ghtikp2 | ghtsdy9 | 1,609,587,568 | 1,609,596,383 | 5 | 12 | I don't think it's necessary, but I do think it helps a lot. I've gotten better at seeing the mistakes I'm making, but there's always some use in having another opinion. And improvement will definitely come slower if you brush over mistakes you just haven't realised are there. | Is it really that bad? Try to post a photo. Take it with as much light you can, or stay outside at sunlight. | 0 | 8,815 | 2.4 |
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