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ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6wwi4 | iv4xw33 | 1,667,677,470 | 1,667,642,429 | 10 | 1 | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 35,041 | 10 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6hfz1 | iv4xw33 | 1,667,671,053 | 1,667,642,429 | 8 | 1 | Just imitate stuff on Pinterest if you're out of ideas. Study stuff like shading techniques, how cross hatching or line weight variations is used. Or just draw doodles. it doesn't necessarily need to go on instagram so it doesn't matter if it sucks. It's just for you. A great exercise is to take movie posters and break them down into basic shapes like circles, squares and triangles. Then refine them by filling the previous shapes with smaller shapes. It's great for learning about composition. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 28,624 | 8 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv4xw33 | iv5ccrz | 1,667,642,429 | 1,667,652,890 | 1 | 8 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I started drawabox with 0 skill and talent. I decided that the best approach for me was to ignore the 50% rule and do courses and tutorials until I became comfortable with other type of drawings. I completed drawabox after 1 yr, mostly following the courses. I don't think the 50% should necessarily be strictly followed. If you do not enjoy doing free drawing yet, then do whatever fits you well. | 0 | 10,461 | 8 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5z8c5 | iv4xw33 | 1,667,663,689 | 1,667,642,429 | 7 | 1 | I am pretty sure you are allowed to do tutorials from other places if that's truly what you want to do. But if you want something with a genuinely low barrier for entry, I have a youtube channel where I post videos of me practicing and trying to improved. This is a video I made about my favorite warm up which is about loosening up and just having fun. Basically you scribble a shape, then turn it in to something (that's the whole thing, no need to watch the video now). It's not about the finished product, just putting down lines for joy's sake. I fill a page with these before I draw anything serious. https://youtu.be/qv0MiUUxkLs | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 21,260 | 7 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv4xw33 | iv5gamv | 1,667,642,429 | 1,667,655,046 | 1 | 7 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I think it’s 50% draw a box 50% what you want. The key seems to be with draw a box is that you are working hard at doing the lessons correctly. If you do the other 50% you don’t have to do anything correctly. You can just experiment with different materials, study anatomy, draw some head, practise a cartoon style. Honestly, just doing draw a box and then spending the rest of your time learning to draw things you like would be a good place to begin, imo the subjects you pick when starting are pretty irrelevant til your skill set is starting to improve. If you love sonic the hedgehog, draw him. If you love cars, draw them. If you love Manchester United draw the stadium, players, club mascot etc. if you draw what you enjoy personally or are a fan of you will do will imo. | 0 | 12,617 | 7 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv4xw33 | iv5lqvv | 1,667,642,429 | 1,667,657,745 | 1 | 5 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I feel that the reason behind the 50% rule is to keep students from burnout. It is more challenging to create than it is to follow directions. Eventhough drawabox has its moments, it is very thorough and well explained however the other 50% has no easy lessons. How does one be creative and have fun with drawing? How does one draw something and not look at all the mistakes? It is a deep frustration that will take much effort to let go of and will either lead to burnout or to an impatient drive to complete more drawabox lessons. Without that creativity and passion to create, finishing drawabox will leave you lost. | 0 | 15,316 | 5 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5jj08 | iv4xw33 | 1,667,656,679 | 1,667,642,429 | 6 | 1 | Stop worrying about doing it 'correctly' when 'drawing for fun'. Like you said you waste your time on tutorials and not drawing. Set aside 30 minutes. Set a 5 minute timer, and a 30 minute timer. You have 5 minutes to figure out what you want to draw or find references maximum. No going past this. If your 5 minutes is up start drawing what's in front of you. No cheating, you're only cheating yourself. Now the remainder of your 30 minutes is to complete your drawing. You don't get any more time. At the end of the 30 minutes your drawing is done. Complete. Don't go back to it. Don't finish this or that. So focus on the task and work quickly. You will learn much faster this way then reading all the tutorials. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 14,250 | 6 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv4xw33 | iv5o13y | 1,667,642,429 | 1,667,658,813 | 1 | 4 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I'd recommend maybe learning some basics before starting with drawabox (at least that's what I'm doing.) I'm learning basics of just how to sketch things from observation, and have fun with it. Once I'm having fun, then I'll probably start up drawabox again. Starting drawabox before I even found art fun was a mistake for me, I took it too seriously and burnt out. ctrlpaint.com has some basic drawing advice you might want to check out, in my opinion, it's a much easier resource to start with, although it's much less dense, you might need to look up a few things you learn to get some extra advice. I believe the point of the 50% rule is to not fear drawing badly, and also to balance work and fun. So you don't really need to know the basics of drawing to do it, but I feel the same as you. When you absolutely don't know how to draw anything, and have the same skills you had when you were 10, it's just not very fun, feels like you're just sitting there wasting time, which I guess you sort of are. You just end up screwing around and doodling things, barely even enjoying it. I disagree with the 50% rules recommendation of not using reference. If you don't use reference, you'll just end up symbol drawing like when you were a kid. The point of that recommendation is to help you not be afraid of drawing badly, so I kind of get it, but it just didn't work well for me. Learn some basic observational drawing (like from ctrlpaint.com) and just sketch things for fun, keeping in mind that it will look bad for a while. Also, if you use reference, try to combine multiple references, and take general parts of them, don't make it an exercise/study, since the 50% rule is meant to be fun, not study/work. | 0 | 16,384 | 4 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5f2ob | iv4xw33 | 1,667,654,394 | 1,667,642,429 | 3 | 1 | Well I think the idea behind the 50% is, that you can spend an entire lifetime practicing, without ever drawing of the sake of drawing. People are often quite puzzled what to actually draw, when they stop photocopying. Every starting artist feels this gap that is opening up, when he wants to be free to draw anything, but just doesnt know what. My advice ? Find a project that suits you. Even if it is Portrait. But instead of "learning", make "experimenting" or "failing" your goal. You might - as a starter - look up for different creative ways of doing portrait. for example glueing a torn newspaper on the blank sheet and drawing over it. ***If you have no clue what to do, take something you can do at leas a little bit and change it, turn it into something new. This way you build up creative vocabulary and ability, which is quite the contrary of the constructive approach of drawabox or most tutorials.*** Make a series of maybe 10 portraits, each with a different approach. add strange color, a dot on the middle of the paper...whatever. This is where the fun starts and you can easily create new avenues in your creative thinking. After doing 10 portraits differently you can put them all next to each other and say: **"Oh wow, look who neatly my portraits developed. Portrait number 11 should have even more of this crazy background, I like."** Welcome to life. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 11,965 | 3 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5m1ul | iv4xw33 | 1,667,657,890 | 1,667,642,429 | 3 | 1 | What do you want to draw eventually? | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 15,461 | 3 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5oweg | iv5ccrz | 1,667,659,212 | 1,667,652,890 | 16 | 8 | Draw what you want to eventually be able to draw well, and use them as drawing skill milestones. Don’t worry if you think it sucks because the person you drew is literally a stick figure, the house is a triangle on top of a square, the clouds and trees look almost identical, and the dog is an unrecognizable mess. We’ve all started there; don’t compare your beginner attempts to people who have already invested tens, hundreds, or thousands of hours or more in drawing. You’ll see the progress as time goes by, and be able to compare your first attempts aka “I have no drawing skills” to wherever you are in your learning process. You’re guaranteed to see progress as long as you’re putting in the effort. So start drawing! Edit: You could always do the drawing prompts in /r/SketchDaily/ | I started drawabox with 0 skill and talent. I decided that the best approach for me was to ignore the 50% rule and do courses and tutorials until I became comfortable with other type of drawings. I completed drawabox after 1 yr, mostly following the courses. I don't think the 50% should necessarily be strictly followed. If you do not enjoy doing free drawing yet, then do whatever fits you well. | 1 | 6,322 | 2 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5oweg | iv5gamv | 1,667,659,212 | 1,667,655,046 | 16 | 7 | Draw what you want to eventually be able to draw well, and use them as drawing skill milestones. Don’t worry if you think it sucks because the person you drew is literally a stick figure, the house is a triangle on top of a square, the clouds and trees look almost identical, and the dog is an unrecognizable mess. We’ve all started there; don’t compare your beginner attempts to people who have already invested tens, hundreds, or thousands of hours or more in drawing. You’ll see the progress as time goes by, and be able to compare your first attempts aka “I have no drawing skills” to wherever you are in your learning process. You’re guaranteed to see progress as long as you’re putting in the effort. So start drawing! Edit: You could always do the drawing prompts in /r/SketchDaily/ | I think it’s 50% draw a box 50% what you want. The key seems to be with draw a box is that you are working hard at doing the lessons correctly. If you do the other 50% you don’t have to do anything correctly. You can just experiment with different materials, study anatomy, draw some head, practise a cartoon style. Honestly, just doing draw a box and then spending the rest of your time learning to draw things you like would be a good place to begin, imo the subjects you pick when starting are pretty irrelevant til your skill set is starting to improve. If you love sonic the hedgehog, draw him. If you love cars, draw them. If you love Manchester United draw the stadium, players, club mascot etc. if you draw what you enjoy personally or are a fan of you will do will imo. | 1 | 4,166 | 2.285714 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5oweg | iv5lqvv | 1,667,659,212 | 1,667,657,745 | 16 | 5 | Draw what you want to eventually be able to draw well, and use them as drawing skill milestones. Don’t worry if you think it sucks because the person you drew is literally a stick figure, the house is a triangle on top of a square, the clouds and trees look almost identical, and the dog is an unrecognizable mess. We’ve all started there; don’t compare your beginner attempts to people who have already invested tens, hundreds, or thousands of hours or more in drawing. You’ll see the progress as time goes by, and be able to compare your first attempts aka “I have no drawing skills” to wherever you are in your learning process. You’re guaranteed to see progress as long as you’re putting in the effort. So start drawing! Edit: You could always do the drawing prompts in /r/SketchDaily/ | I feel that the reason behind the 50% rule is to keep students from burnout. It is more challenging to create than it is to follow directions. Eventhough drawabox has its moments, it is very thorough and well explained however the other 50% has no easy lessons. How does one be creative and have fun with drawing? How does one draw something and not look at all the mistakes? It is a deep frustration that will take much effort to let go of and will either lead to burnout or to an impatient drive to complete more drawabox lessons. Without that creativity and passion to create, finishing drawabox will leave you lost. | 1 | 1,467 | 3.2 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5oweg | iv5jj08 | 1,667,659,212 | 1,667,656,679 | 16 | 6 | Draw what you want to eventually be able to draw well, and use them as drawing skill milestones. Don’t worry if you think it sucks because the person you drew is literally a stick figure, the house is a triangle on top of a square, the clouds and trees look almost identical, and the dog is an unrecognizable mess. We’ve all started there; don’t compare your beginner attempts to people who have already invested tens, hundreds, or thousands of hours or more in drawing. You’ll see the progress as time goes by, and be able to compare your first attempts aka “I have no drawing skills” to wherever you are in your learning process. You’re guaranteed to see progress as long as you’re putting in the effort. So start drawing! Edit: You could always do the drawing prompts in /r/SketchDaily/ | Stop worrying about doing it 'correctly' when 'drawing for fun'. Like you said you waste your time on tutorials and not drawing. Set aside 30 minutes. Set a 5 minute timer, and a 30 minute timer. You have 5 minutes to figure out what you want to draw or find references maximum. No going past this. If your 5 minutes is up start drawing what's in front of you. No cheating, you're only cheating yourself. Now the remainder of your 30 minutes is to complete your drawing. You don't get any more time. At the end of the 30 minutes your drawing is done. Complete. Don't go back to it. Don't finish this or that. So focus on the task and work quickly. You will learn much faster this way then reading all the tutorials. | 1 | 2,533 | 2.666667 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5o13y | iv5oweg | 1,667,658,813 | 1,667,659,212 | 4 | 16 | I'd recommend maybe learning some basics before starting with drawabox (at least that's what I'm doing.) I'm learning basics of just how to sketch things from observation, and have fun with it. Once I'm having fun, then I'll probably start up drawabox again. Starting drawabox before I even found art fun was a mistake for me, I took it too seriously and burnt out. ctrlpaint.com has some basic drawing advice you might want to check out, in my opinion, it's a much easier resource to start with, although it's much less dense, you might need to look up a few things you learn to get some extra advice. I believe the point of the 50% rule is to not fear drawing badly, and also to balance work and fun. So you don't really need to know the basics of drawing to do it, but I feel the same as you. When you absolutely don't know how to draw anything, and have the same skills you had when you were 10, it's just not very fun, feels like you're just sitting there wasting time, which I guess you sort of are. You just end up screwing around and doodling things, barely even enjoying it. I disagree with the 50% rules recommendation of not using reference. If you don't use reference, you'll just end up symbol drawing like when you were a kid. The point of that recommendation is to help you not be afraid of drawing badly, so I kind of get it, but it just didn't work well for me. Learn some basic observational drawing (like from ctrlpaint.com) and just sketch things for fun, keeping in mind that it will look bad for a while. Also, if you use reference, try to combine multiple references, and take general parts of them, don't make it an exercise/study, since the 50% rule is meant to be fun, not study/work. | Draw what you want to eventually be able to draw well, and use them as drawing skill milestones. Don’t worry if you think it sucks because the person you drew is literally a stick figure, the house is a triangle on top of a square, the clouds and trees look almost identical, and the dog is an unrecognizable mess. We’ve all started there; don’t compare your beginner attempts to people who have already invested tens, hundreds, or thousands of hours or more in drawing. You’ll see the progress as time goes by, and be able to compare your first attempts aka “I have no drawing skills” to wherever you are in your learning process. You’re guaranteed to see progress as long as you’re putting in the effort. So start drawing! Edit: You could always do the drawing prompts in /r/SketchDaily/ | 0 | 399 | 4 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5oweg | iv5f2ob | 1,667,659,212 | 1,667,654,394 | 16 | 3 | Draw what you want to eventually be able to draw well, and use them as drawing skill milestones. Don’t worry if you think it sucks because the person you drew is literally a stick figure, the house is a triangle on top of a square, the clouds and trees look almost identical, and the dog is an unrecognizable mess. We’ve all started there; don’t compare your beginner attempts to people who have already invested tens, hundreds, or thousands of hours or more in drawing. You’ll see the progress as time goes by, and be able to compare your first attempts aka “I have no drawing skills” to wherever you are in your learning process. You’re guaranteed to see progress as long as you’re putting in the effort. So start drawing! Edit: You could always do the drawing prompts in /r/SketchDaily/ | Well I think the idea behind the 50% is, that you can spend an entire lifetime practicing, without ever drawing of the sake of drawing. People are often quite puzzled what to actually draw, when they stop photocopying. Every starting artist feels this gap that is opening up, when he wants to be free to draw anything, but just doesnt know what. My advice ? Find a project that suits you. Even if it is Portrait. But instead of "learning", make "experimenting" or "failing" your goal. You might - as a starter - look up for different creative ways of doing portrait. for example glueing a torn newspaper on the blank sheet and drawing over it. ***If you have no clue what to do, take something you can do at leas a little bit and change it, turn it into something new. This way you build up creative vocabulary and ability, which is quite the contrary of the constructive approach of drawabox or most tutorials.*** Make a series of maybe 10 portraits, each with a different approach. add strange color, a dot on the middle of the paper...whatever. This is where the fun starts and you can easily create new avenues in your creative thinking. After doing 10 portraits differently you can put them all next to each other and say: **"Oh wow, look who neatly my portraits developed. Portrait number 11 should have even more of this crazy background, I like."** Welcome to life. | 1 | 4,818 | 5.333333 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5oweg | iv5m1ul | 1,667,659,212 | 1,667,657,890 | 16 | 3 | Draw what you want to eventually be able to draw well, and use them as drawing skill milestones. Don’t worry if you think it sucks because the person you drew is literally a stick figure, the house is a triangle on top of a square, the clouds and trees look almost identical, and the dog is an unrecognizable mess. We’ve all started there; don’t compare your beginner attempts to people who have already invested tens, hundreds, or thousands of hours or more in drawing. You’ll see the progress as time goes by, and be able to compare your first attempts aka “I have no drawing skills” to wherever you are in your learning process. You’re guaranteed to see progress as long as you’re putting in the effort. So start drawing! Edit: You could always do the drawing prompts in /r/SketchDaily/ | What do you want to draw eventually? | 1 | 1,322 | 5.333333 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6wwi4 | iv6hfz1 | 1,667,677,470 | 1,667,671,053 | 10 | 8 | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | Just imitate stuff on Pinterest if you're out of ideas. Study stuff like shading techniques, how cross hatching or line weight variations is used. Or just draw doodles. it doesn't necessarily need to go on instagram so it doesn't matter if it sucks. It's just for you. A great exercise is to take movie posters and break them down into basic shapes like circles, squares and triangles. Then refine them by filling the previous shapes with smaller shapes. It's great for learning about composition. | 1 | 6,417 | 1.25 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6wwi4 | iv5ccrz | 1,667,677,470 | 1,667,652,890 | 10 | 8 | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | I started drawabox with 0 skill and talent. I decided that the best approach for me was to ignore the 50% rule and do courses and tutorials until I became comfortable with other type of drawings. I completed drawabox after 1 yr, mostly following the courses. I don't think the 50% should necessarily be strictly followed. If you do not enjoy doing free drawing yet, then do whatever fits you well. | 1 | 24,580 | 1.25 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6wwi4 | iv5z8c5 | 1,667,677,470 | 1,667,663,689 | 10 | 7 | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | I am pretty sure you are allowed to do tutorials from other places if that's truly what you want to do. But if you want something with a genuinely low barrier for entry, I have a youtube channel where I post videos of me practicing and trying to improved. This is a video I made about my favorite warm up which is about loosening up and just having fun. Basically you scribble a shape, then turn it in to something (that's the whole thing, no need to watch the video now). It's not about the finished product, just putting down lines for joy's sake. I fill a page with these before I draw anything serious. https://youtu.be/qv0MiUUxkLs | 1 | 13,781 | 1.428571 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5gamv | iv6wwi4 | 1,667,655,046 | 1,667,677,470 | 7 | 10 | I think it’s 50% draw a box 50% what you want. The key seems to be with draw a box is that you are working hard at doing the lessons correctly. If you do the other 50% you don’t have to do anything correctly. You can just experiment with different materials, study anatomy, draw some head, practise a cartoon style. Honestly, just doing draw a box and then spending the rest of your time learning to draw things you like would be a good place to begin, imo the subjects you pick when starting are pretty irrelevant til your skill set is starting to improve. If you love sonic the hedgehog, draw him. If you love cars, draw them. If you love Manchester United draw the stadium, players, club mascot etc. if you draw what you enjoy personally or are a fan of you will do will imo. | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | 0 | 22,424 | 1.428571 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6wwi4 | iv5lqvv | 1,667,677,470 | 1,667,657,745 | 10 | 5 | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | I feel that the reason behind the 50% rule is to keep students from burnout. It is more challenging to create than it is to follow directions. Eventhough drawabox has its moments, it is very thorough and well explained however the other 50% has no easy lessons. How does one be creative and have fun with drawing? How does one draw something and not look at all the mistakes? It is a deep frustration that will take much effort to let go of and will either lead to burnout or to an impatient drive to complete more drawabox lessons. Without that creativity and passion to create, finishing drawabox will leave you lost. | 1 | 19,725 | 2 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6wwi4 | iv5jj08 | 1,667,677,470 | 1,667,656,679 | 10 | 6 | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | Stop worrying about doing it 'correctly' when 'drawing for fun'. Like you said you waste your time on tutorials and not drawing. Set aside 30 minutes. Set a 5 minute timer, and a 30 minute timer. You have 5 minutes to figure out what you want to draw or find references maximum. No going past this. If your 5 minutes is up start drawing what's in front of you. No cheating, you're only cheating yourself. Now the remainder of your 30 minutes is to complete your drawing. You don't get any more time. At the end of the 30 minutes your drawing is done. Complete. Don't go back to it. Don't finish this or that. So focus on the task and work quickly. You will learn much faster this way then reading all the tutorials. | 1 | 20,791 | 1.666667 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5o13y | iv6wwi4 | 1,667,658,813 | 1,667,677,470 | 4 | 10 | I'd recommend maybe learning some basics before starting with drawabox (at least that's what I'm doing.) I'm learning basics of just how to sketch things from observation, and have fun with it. Once I'm having fun, then I'll probably start up drawabox again. Starting drawabox before I even found art fun was a mistake for me, I took it too seriously and burnt out. ctrlpaint.com has some basic drawing advice you might want to check out, in my opinion, it's a much easier resource to start with, although it's much less dense, you might need to look up a few things you learn to get some extra advice. I believe the point of the 50% rule is to not fear drawing badly, and also to balance work and fun. So you don't really need to know the basics of drawing to do it, but I feel the same as you. When you absolutely don't know how to draw anything, and have the same skills you had when you were 10, it's just not very fun, feels like you're just sitting there wasting time, which I guess you sort of are. You just end up screwing around and doodling things, barely even enjoying it. I disagree with the 50% rules recommendation of not using reference. If you don't use reference, you'll just end up symbol drawing like when you were a kid. The point of that recommendation is to help you not be afraid of drawing badly, so I kind of get it, but it just didn't work well for me. Learn some basic observational drawing (like from ctrlpaint.com) and just sketch things for fun, keeping in mind that it will look bad for a while. Also, if you use reference, try to combine multiple references, and take general parts of them, don't make it an exercise/study, since the 50% rule is meant to be fun, not study/work. | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | 0 | 18,657 | 2.5 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5f2ob | iv6wwi4 | 1,667,654,394 | 1,667,677,470 | 3 | 10 | Well I think the idea behind the 50% is, that you can spend an entire lifetime practicing, without ever drawing of the sake of drawing. People are often quite puzzled what to actually draw, when they stop photocopying. Every starting artist feels this gap that is opening up, when he wants to be free to draw anything, but just doesnt know what. My advice ? Find a project that suits you. Even if it is Portrait. But instead of "learning", make "experimenting" or "failing" your goal. You might - as a starter - look up for different creative ways of doing portrait. for example glueing a torn newspaper on the blank sheet and drawing over it. ***If you have no clue what to do, take something you can do at leas a little bit and change it, turn it into something new. This way you build up creative vocabulary and ability, which is quite the contrary of the constructive approach of drawabox or most tutorials.*** Make a series of maybe 10 portraits, each with a different approach. add strange color, a dot on the middle of the paper...whatever. This is where the fun starts and you can easily create new avenues in your creative thinking. After doing 10 portraits differently you can put them all next to each other and say: **"Oh wow, look who neatly my portraits developed. Portrait number 11 should have even more of this crazy background, I like."** Welcome to life. | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | 0 | 23,076 | 3.333333 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6wwi4 | iv5m1ul | 1,667,677,470 | 1,667,657,890 | 10 | 3 | I too feel overwhelmed as a beginner. I picked up the book 50 ways to draw your beautiful ordinary life. It has a lot of places for you to draw inside and envelopes, a cut out doll etc. all of the drawings are on the simple side, and they have a lot of the drawings broken down into smaller steps. so I found it quite approachable. To be honest, After reading the intro and trying a little bit of it, I don’t even follow what they have there, I just flip through it for prompts and try to do my own version: - cup and saucer, - desk lamp - ball (tennis, soccer, beach) - bicycle - chair - shelf - houseplant - fruit/veggies I find picking one to three objects to be the right level of difficulty where I am willing to try and not become so overwhelmed with something big and complex that I freeze or overthink it so much I never even begin. Even if the book isn’t for you maybe the prompts I listed would be helpful starting points? | What do you want to draw eventually? | 1 | 19,580 | 3.333333 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6hfz1 | iv5z8c5 | 1,667,671,053 | 1,667,663,689 | 8 | 7 | Just imitate stuff on Pinterest if you're out of ideas. Study stuff like shading techniques, how cross hatching or line weight variations is used. Or just draw doodles. it doesn't necessarily need to go on instagram so it doesn't matter if it sucks. It's just for you. A great exercise is to take movie posters and break them down into basic shapes like circles, squares and triangles. Then refine them by filling the previous shapes with smaller shapes. It's great for learning about composition. | I am pretty sure you are allowed to do tutorials from other places if that's truly what you want to do. But if you want something with a genuinely low barrier for entry, I have a youtube channel where I post videos of me practicing and trying to improved. This is a video I made about my favorite warm up which is about loosening up and just having fun. Basically you scribble a shape, then turn it in to something (that's the whole thing, no need to watch the video now). It's not about the finished product, just putting down lines for joy's sake. I fill a page with these before I draw anything serious. https://youtu.be/qv0MiUUxkLs | 1 | 7,364 | 1.142857 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5gamv | iv6hfz1 | 1,667,655,046 | 1,667,671,053 | 7 | 8 | I think it’s 50% draw a box 50% what you want. The key seems to be with draw a box is that you are working hard at doing the lessons correctly. If you do the other 50% you don’t have to do anything correctly. You can just experiment with different materials, study anatomy, draw some head, practise a cartoon style. Honestly, just doing draw a box and then spending the rest of your time learning to draw things you like would be a good place to begin, imo the subjects you pick when starting are pretty irrelevant til your skill set is starting to improve. If you love sonic the hedgehog, draw him. If you love cars, draw them. If you love Manchester United draw the stadium, players, club mascot etc. if you draw what you enjoy personally or are a fan of you will do will imo. | Just imitate stuff on Pinterest if you're out of ideas. Study stuff like shading techniques, how cross hatching or line weight variations is used. Or just draw doodles. it doesn't necessarily need to go on instagram so it doesn't matter if it sucks. It's just for you. A great exercise is to take movie posters and break them down into basic shapes like circles, squares and triangles. Then refine them by filling the previous shapes with smaller shapes. It's great for learning about composition. | 0 | 16,007 | 1.142857 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5lqvv | iv6hfz1 | 1,667,657,745 | 1,667,671,053 | 5 | 8 | I feel that the reason behind the 50% rule is to keep students from burnout. It is more challenging to create than it is to follow directions. Eventhough drawabox has its moments, it is very thorough and well explained however the other 50% has no easy lessons. How does one be creative and have fun with drawing? How does one draw something and not look at all the mistakes? It is a deep frustration that will take much effort to let go of and will either lead to burnout or to an impatient drive to complete more drawabox lessons. Without that creativity and passion to create, finishing drawabox will leave you lost. | Just imitate stuff on Pinterest if you're out of ideas. Study stuff like shading techniques, how cross hatching or line weight variations is used. Or just draw doodles. it doesn't necessarily need to go on instagram so it doesn't matter if it sucks. It's just for you. A great exercise is to take movie posters and break them down into basic shapes like circles, squares and triangles. Then refine them by filling the previous shapes with smaller shapes. It's great for learning about composition. | 0 | 13,308 | 1.6 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5jj08 | iv6hfz1 | 1,667,656,679 | 1,667,671,053 | 6 | 8 | Stop worrying about doing it 'correctly' when 'drawing for fun'. Like you said you waste your time on tutorials and not drawing. Set aside 30 minutes. Set a 5 minute timer, and a 30 minute timer. You have 5 minutes to figure out what you want to draw or find references maximum. No going past this. If your 5 minutes is up start drawing what's in front of you. No cheating, you're only cheating yourself. Now the remainder of your 30 minutes is to complete your drawing. You don't get any more time. At the end of the 30 minutes your drawing is done. Complete. Don't go back to it. Don't finish this or that. So focus on the task and work quickly. You will learn much faster this way then reading all the tutorials. | Just imitate stuff on Pinterest if you're out of ideas. Study stuff like shading techniques, how cross hatching or line weight variations is used. Or just draw doodles. it doesn't necessarily need to go on instagram so it doesn't matter if it sucks. It's just for you. A great exercise is to take movie posters and break them down into basic shapes like circles, squares and triangles. Then refine them by filling the previous shapes with smaller shapes. It's great for learning about composition. | 0 | 14,374 | 1.333333 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6hfz1 | iv5o13y | 1,667,671,053 | 1,667,658,813 | 8 | 4 | Just imitate stuff on Pinterest if you're out of ideas. Study stuff like shading techniques, how cross hatching or line weight variations is used. Or just draw doodles. it doesn't necessarily need to go on instagram so it doesn't matter if it sucks. It's just for you. A great exercise is to take movie posters and break them down into basic shapes like circles, squares and triangles. Then refine them by filling the previous shapes with smaller shapes. It's great for learning about composition. | I'd recommend maybe learning some basics before starting with drawabox (at least that's what I'm doing.) I'm learning basics of just how to sketch things from observation, and have fun with it. Once I'm having fun, then I'll probably start up drawabox again. Starting drawabox before I even found art fun was a mistake for me, I took it too seriously and burnt out. ctrlpaint.com has some basic drawing advice you might want to check out, in my opinion, it's a much easier resource to start with, although it's much less dense, you might need to look up a few things you learn to get some extra advice. I believe the point of the 50% rule is to not fear drawing badly, and also to balance work and fun. So you don't really need to know the basics of drawing to do it, but I feel the same as you. When you absolutely don't know how to draw anything, and have the same skills you had when you were 10, it's just not very fun, feels like you're just sitting there wasting time, which I guess you sort of are. You just end up screwing around and doodling things, barely even enjoying it. I disagree with the 50% rules recommendation of not using reference. If you don't use reference, you'll just end up symbol drawing like when you were a kid. The point of that recommendation is to help you not be afraid of drawing badly, so I kind of get it, but it just didn't work well for me. Learn some basic observational drawing (like from ctrlpaint.com) and just sketch things for fun, keeping in mind that it will look bad for a while. Also, if you use reference, try to combine multiple references, and take general parts of them, don't make it an exercise/study, since the 50% rule is meant to be fun, not study/work. | 1 | 12,240 | 2 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5f2ob | iv6hfz1 | 1,667,654,394 | 1,667,671,053 | 3 | 8 | Well I think the idea behind the 50% is, that you can spend an entire lifetime practicing, without ever drawing of the sake of drawing. People are often quite puzzled what to actually draw, when they stop photocopying. Every starting artist feels this gap that is opening up, when he wants to be free to draw anything, but just doesnt know what. My advice ? Find a project that suits you. Even if it is Portrait. But instead of "learning", make "experimenting" or "failing" your goal. You might - as a starter - look up for different creative ways of doing portrait. for example glueing a torn newspaper on the blank sheet and drawing over it. ***If you have no clue what to do, take something you can do at leas a little bit and change it, turn it into something new. This way you build up creative vocabulary and ability, which is quite the contrary of the constructive approach of drawabox or most tutorials.*** Make a series of maybe 10 portraits, each with a different approach. add strange color, a dot on the middle of the paper...whatever. This is where the fun starts and you can easily create new avenues in your creative thinking. After doing 10 portraits differently you can put them all next to each other and say: **"Oh wow, look who neatly my portraits developed. Portrait number 11 should have even more of this crazy background, I like."** Welcome to life. | Just imitate stuff on Pinterest if you're out of ideas. Study stuff like shading techniques, how cross hatching or line weight variations is used. Or just draw doodles. it doesn't necessarily need to go on instagram so it doesn't matter if it sucks. It's just for you. A great exercise is to take movie posters and break them down into basic shapes like circles, squares and triangles. Then refine them by filling the previous shapes with smaller shapes. It's great for learning about composition. | 0 | 16,659 | 2.666667 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv6hfz1 | iv5m1ul | 1,667,671,053 | 1,667,657,890 | 8 | 3 | Just imitate stuff on Pinterest if you're out of ideas. Study stuff like shading techniques, how cross hatching or line weight variations is used. Or just draw doodles. it doesn't necessarily need to go on instagram so it doesn't matter if it sucks. It's just for you. A great exercise is to take movie posters and break them down into basic shapes like circles, squares and triangles. Then refine them by filling the previous shapes with smaller shapes. It's great for learning about composition. | What do you want to draw eventually? | 1 | 13,163 | 2.666667 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5z8c5 | iv5lqvv | 1,667,663,689 | 1,667,657,745 | 7 | 5 | I am pretty sure you are allowed to do tutorials from other places if that's truly what you want to do. But if you want something with a genuinely low barrier for entry, I have a youtube channel where I post videos of me practicing and trying to improved. This is a video I made about my favorite warm up which is about loosening up and just having fun. Basically you scribble a shape, then turn it in to something (that's the whole thing, no need to watch the video now). It's not about the finished product, just putting down lines for joy's sake. I fill a page with these before I draw anything serious. https://youtu.be/qv0MiUUxkLs | I feel that the reason behind the 50% rule is to keep students from burnout. It is more challenging to create than it is to follow directions. Eventhough drawabox has its moments, it is very thorough and well explained however the other 50% has no easy lessons. How does one be creative and have fun with drawing? How does one draw something and not look at all the mistakes? It is a deep frustration that will take much effort to let go of and will either lead to burnout or to an impatient drive to complete more drawabox lessons. Without that creativity and passion to create, finishing drawabox will leave you lost. | 1 | 5,944 | 1.4 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5z8c5 | iv5jj08 | 1,667,663,689 | 1,667,656,679 | 7 | 6 | I am pretty sure you are allowed to do tutorials from other places if that's truly what you want to do. But if you want something with a genuinely low barrier for entry, I have a youtube channel where I post videos of me practicing and trying to improved. This is a video I made about my favorite warm up which is about loosening up and just having fun. Basically you scribble a shape, then turn it in to something (that's the whole thing, no need to watch the video now). It's not about the finished product, just putting down lines for joy's sake. I fill a page with these before I draw anything serious. https://youtu.be/qv0MiUUxkLs | Stop worrying about doing it 'correctly' when 'drawing for fun'. Like you said you waste your time on tutorials and not drawing. Set aside 30 minutes. Set a 5 minute timer, and a 30 minute timer. You have 5 minutes to figure out what you want to draw or find references maximum. No going past this. If your 5 minutes is up start drawing what's in front of you. No cheating, you're only cheating yourself. Now the remainder of your 30 minutes is to complete your drawing. You don't get any more time. At the end of the 30 minutes your drawing is done. Complete. Don't go back to it. Don't finish this or that. So focus on the task and work quickly. You will learn much faster this way then reading all the tutorials. | 1 | 7,010 | 1.166667 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5z8c5 | iv5o13y | 1,667,663,689 | 1,667,658,813 | 7 | 4 | I am pretty sure you are allowed to do tutorials from other places if that's truly what you want to do. But if you want something with a genuinely low barrier for entry, I have a youtube channel where I post videos of me practicing and trying to improved. This is a video I made about my favorite warm up which is about loosening up and just having fun. Basically you scribble a shape, then turn it in to something (that's the whole thing, no need to watch the video now). It's not about the finished product, just putting down lines for joy's sake. I fill a page with these before I draw anything serious. https://youtu.be/qv0MiUUxkLs | I'd recommend maybe learning some basics before starting with drawabox (at least that's what I'm doing.) I'm learning basics of just how to sketch things from observation, and have fun with it. Once I'm having fun, then I'll probably start up drawabox again. Starting drawabox before I even found art fun was a mistake for me, I took it too seriously and burnt out. ctrlpaint.com has some basic drawing advice you might want to check out, in my opinion, it's a much easier resource to start with, although it's much less dense, you might need to look up a few things you learn to get some extra advice. I believe the point of the 50% rule is to not fear drawing badly, and also to balance work and fun. So you don't really need to know the basics of drawing to do it, but I feel the same as you. When you absolutely don't know how to draw anything, and have the same skills you had when you were 10, it's just not very fun, feels like you're just sitting there wasting time, which I guess you sort of are. You just end up screwing around and doodling things, barely even enjoying it. I disagree with the 50% rules recommendation of not using reference. If you don't use reference, you'll just end up symbol drawing like when you were a kid. The point of that recommendation is to help you not be afraid of drawing badly, so I kind of get it, but it just didn't work well for me. Learn some basic observational drawing (like from ctrlpaint.com) and just sketch things for fun, keeping in mind that it will look bad for a while. Also, if you use reference, try to combine multiple references, and take general parts of them, don't make it an exercise/study, since the 50% rule is meant to be fun, not study/work. | 1 | 4,876 | 1.75 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5z8c5 | iv5f2ob | 1,667,663,689 | 1,667,654,394 | 7 | 3 | I am pretty sure you are allowed to do tutorials from other places if that's truly what you want to do. But if you want something with a genuinely low barrier for entry, I have a youtube channel where I post videos of me practicing and trying to improved. This is a video I made about my favorite warm up which is about loosening up and just having fun. Basically you scribble a shape, then turn it in to something (that's the whole thing, no need to watch the video now). It's not about the finished product, just putting down lines for joy's sake. I fill a page with these before I draw anything serious. https://youtu.be/qv0MiUUxkLs | Well I think the idea behind the 50% is, that you can spend an entire lifetime practicing, without ever drawing of the sake of drawing. People are often quite puzzled what to actually draw, when they stop photocopying. Every starting artist feels this gap that is opening up, when he wants to be free to draw anything, but just doesnt know what. My advice ? Find a project that suits you. Even if it is Portrait. But instead of "learning", make "experimenting" or "failing" your goal. You might - as a starter - look up for different creative ways of doing portrait. for example glueing a torn newspaper on the blank sheet and drawing over it. ***If you have no clue what to do, take something you can do at leas a little bit and change it, turn it into something new. This way you build up creative vocabulary and ability, which is quite the contrary of the constructive approach of drawabox or most tutorials.*** Make a series of maybe 10 portraits, each with a different approach. add strange color, a dot on the middle of the paper...whatever. This is where the fun starts and you can easily create new avenues in your creative thinking. After doing 10 portraits differently you can put them all next to each other and say: **"Oh wow, look who neatly my portraits developed. Portrait number 11 should have even more of this crazy background, I like."** Welcome to life. | 1 | 9,295 | 2.333333 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5z8c5 | iv5m1ul | 1,667,663,689 | 1,667,657,890 | 7 | 3 | I am pretty sure you are allowed to do tutorials from other places if that's truly what you want to do. But if you want something with a genuinely low barrier for entry, I have a youtube channel where I post videos of me practicing and trying to improved. This is a video I made about my favorite warm up which is about loosening up and just having fun. Basically you scribble a shape, then turn it in to something (that's the whole thing, no need to watch the video now). It's not about the finished product, just putting down lines for joy's sake. I fill a page with these before I draw anything serious. https://youtu.be/qv0MiUUxkLs | What do you want to draw eventually? | 1 | 5,799 | 2.333333 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5gamv | iv5f2ob | 1,667,655,046 | 1,667,654,394 | 7 | 3 | I think it’s 50% draw a box 50% what you want. The key seems to be with draw a box is that you are working hard at doing the lessons correctly. If you do the other 50% you don’t have to do anything correctly. You can just experiment with different materials, study anatomy, draw some head, practise a cartoon style. Honestly, just doing draw a box and then spending the rest of your time learning to draw things you like would be a good place to begin, imo the subjects you pick when starting are pretty irrelevant til your skill set is starting to improve. If you love sonic the hedgehog, draw him. If you love cars, draw them. If you love Manchester United draw the stadium, players, club mascot etc. if you draw what you enjoy personally or are a fan of you will do will imo. | Well I think the idea behind the 50% is, that you can spend an entire lifetime practicing, without ever drawing of the sake of drawing. People are often quite puzzled what to actually draw, when they stop photocopying. Every starting artist feels this gap that is opening up, when he wants to be free to draw anything, but just doesnt know what. My advice ? Find a project that suits you. Even if it is Portrait. But instead of "learning", make "experimenting" or "failing" your goal. You might - as a starter - look up for different creative ways of doing portrait. for example glueing a torn newspaper on the blank sheet and drawing over it. ***If you have no clue what to do, take something you can do at leas a little bit and change it, turn it into something new. This way you build up creative vocabulary and ability, which is quite the contrary of the constructive approach of drawabox or most tutorials.*** Make a series of maybe 10 portraits, each with a different approach. add strange color, a dot on the middle of the paper...whatever. This is where the fun starts and you can easily create new avenues in your creative thinking. After doing 10 portraits differently you can put them all next to each other and say: **"Oh wow, look who neatly my portraits developed. Portrait number 11 should have even more of this crazy background, I like."** Welcome to life. | 1 | 652 | 2.333333 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5lqvv | iv5f2ob | 1,667,657,745 | 1,667,654,394 | 5 | 3 | I feel that the reason behind the 50% rule is to keep students from burnout. It is more challenging to create than it is to follow directions. Eventhough drawabox has its moments, it is very thorough and well explained however the other 50% has no easy lessons. How does one be creative and have fun with drawing? How does one draw something and not look at all the mistakes? It is a deep frustration that will take much effort to let go of and will either lead to burnout or to an impatient drive to complete more drawabox lessons. Without that creativity and passion to create, finishing drawabox will leave you lost. | Well I think the idea behind the 50% is, that you can spend an entire lifetime practicing, without ever drawing of the sake of drawing. People are often quite puzzled what to actually draw, when they stop photocopying. Every starting artist feels this gap that is opening up, when he wants to be free to draw anything, but just doesnt know what. My advice ? Find a project that suits you. Even if it is Portrait. But instead of "learning", make "experimenting" or "failing" your goal. You might - as a starter - look up for different creative ways of doing portrait. for example glueing a torn newspaper on the blank sheet and drawing over it. ***If you have no clue what to do, take something you can do at leas a little bit and change it, turn it into something new. This way you build up creative vocabulary and ability, which is quite the contrary of the constructive approach of drawabox or most tutorials.*** Make a series of maybe 10 portraits, each with a different approach. add strange color, a dot on the middle of the paper...whatever. This is where the fun starts and you can easily create new avenues in your creative thinking. After doing 10 portraits differently you can put them all next to each other and say: **"Oh wow, look who neatly my portraits developed. Portrait number 11 should have even more of this crazy background, I like."** Welcome to life. | 1 | 3,351 | 1.666667 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5jj08 | iv5f2ob | 1,667,656,679 | 1,667,654,394 | 6 | 3 | Stop worrying about doing it 'correctly' when 'drawing for fun'. Like you said you waste your time on tutorials and not drawing. Set aside 30 minutes. Set a 5 minute timer, and a 30 minute timer. You have 5 minutes to figure out what you want to draw or find references maximum. No going past this. If your 5 minutes is up start drawing what's in front of you. No cheating, you're only cheating yourself. Now the remainder of your 30 minutes is to complete your drawing. You don't get any more time. At the end of the 30 minutes your drawing is done. Complete. Don't go back to it. Don't finish this or that. So focus on the task and work quickly. You will learn much faster this way then reading all the tutorials. | Well I think the idea behind the 50% is, that you can spend an entire lifetime practicing, without ever drawing of the sake of drawing. People are often quite puzzled what to actually draw, when they stop photocopying. Every starting artist feels this gap that is opening up, when he wants to be free to draw anything, but just doesnt know what. My advice ? Find a project that suits you. Even if it is Portrait. But instead of "learning", make "experimenting" or "failing" your goal. You might - as a starter - look up for different creative ways of doing portrait. for example glueing a torn newspaper on the blank sheet and drawing over it. ***If you have no clue what to do, take something you can do at leas a little bit and change it, turn it into something new. This way you build up creative vocabulary and ability, which is quite the contrary of the constructive approach of drawabox or most tutorials.*** Make a series of maybe 10 portraits, each with a different approach. add strange color, a dot on the middle of the paper...whatever. This is where the fun starts and you can easily create new avenues in your creative thinking. After doing 10 portraits differently you can put them all next to each other and say: **"Oh wow, look who neatly my portraits developed. Portrait number 11 should have even more of this crazy background, I like."** Welcome to life. | 1 | 2,285 | 2 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5o13y | iv5f2ob | 1,667,658,813 | 1,667,654,394 | 4 | 3 | I'd recommend maybe learning some basics before starting with drawabox (at least that's what I'm doing.) I'm learning basics of just how to sketch things from observation, and have fun with it. Once I'm having fun, then I'll probably start up drawabox again. Starting drawabox before I even found art fun was a mistake for me, I took it too seriously and burnt out. ctrlpaint.com has some basic drawing advice you might want to check out, in my opinion, it's a much easier resource to start with, although it's much less dense, you might need to look up a few things you learn to get some extra advice. I believe the point of the 50% rule is to not fear drawing badly, and also to balance work and fun. So you don't really need to know the basics of drawing to do it, but I feel the same as you. When you absolutely don't know how to draw anything, and have the same skills you had when you were 10, it's just not very fun, feels like you're just sitting there wasting time, which I guess you sort of are. You just end up screwing around and doodling things, barely even enjoying it. I disagree with the 50% rules recommendation of not using reference. If you don't use reference, you'll just end up symbol drawing like when you were a kid. The point of that recommendation is to help you not be afraid of drawing badly, so I kind of get it, but it just didn't work well for me. Learn some basic observational drawing (like from ctrlpaint.com) and just sketch things for fun, keeping in mind that it will look bad for a while. Also, if you use reference, try to combine multiple references, and take general parts of them, don't make it an exercise/study, since the 50% rule is meant to be fun, not study/work. | Well I think the idea behind the 50% is, that you can spend an entire lifetime practicing, without ever drawing of the sake of drawing. People are often quite puzzled what to actually draw, when they stop photocopying. Every starting artist feels this gap that is opening up, when he wants to be free to draw anything, but just doesnt know what. My advice ? Find a project that suits you. Even if it is Portrait. But instead of "learning", make "experimenting" or "failing" your goal. You might - as a starter - look up for different creative ways of doing portrait. for example glueing a torn newspaper on the blank sheet and drawing over it. ***If you have no clue what to do, take something you can do at leas a little bit and change it, turn it into something new. This way you build up creative vocabulary and ability, which is quite the contrary of the constructive approach of drawabox or most tutorials.*** Make a series of maybe 10 portraits, each with a different approach. add strange color, a dot on the middle of the paper...whatever. This is where the fun starts and you can easily create new avenues in your creative thinking. After doing 10 portraits differently you can put them all next to each other and say: **"Oh wow, look who neatly my portraits developed. Portrait number 11 should have even more of this crazy background, I like."** Welcome to life. | 1 | 4,419 | 1.333333 | ||
ympovx | artfundamentals_train | 0.99 | The Other 50% with draw a box Hello, I am a complete beginner and have started learning using draw a box. As the program instructs, I should use it 50% of the time while just practice drawing on the other 50% of my practice time, instead of focusing on courses and tutorials. However, having zero drawing skills, I find it extremely challenging to even start drawing "for fun' , as I need a tutorial for everything - figure drawing, portraits, observational drawing, views etc.. For example, I tried learning portrait drawing because I am into it but I think it misses the point of "drawing for fun" and getting general drawing practice because I spent 50% of my time on DAB and the remaining time for portrait tutorials. That made me think that it might be better to postpone portrait tutorials after finished DAB. my question is, what kinds of drawing fields have a pretty low barrier of entry (for the basics at least)? I want to learn the bare minimum of theory and just get "drawing reps" in and not get stuck in tutorial hell. Thank you! | iv5o13y | iv5m1ul | 1,667,658,813 | 1,667,657,890 | 4 | 3 | I'd recommend maybe learning some basics before starting with drawabox (at least that's what I'm doing.) I'm learning basics of just how to sketch things from observation, and have fun with it. Once I'm having fun, then I'll probably start up drawabox again. Starting drawabox before I even found art fun was a mistake for me, I took it too seriously and burnt out. ctrlpaint.com has some basic drawing advice you might want to check out, in my opinion, it's a much easier resource to start with, although it's much less dense, you might need to look up a few things you learn to get some extra advice. I believe the point of the 50% rule is to not fear drawing badly, and also to balance work and fun. So you don't really need to know the basics of drawing to do it, but I feel the same as you. When you absolutely don't know how to draw anything, and have the same skills you had when you were 10, it's just not very fun, feels like you're just sitting there wasting time, which I guess you sort of are. You just end up screwing around and doodling things, barely even enjoying it. I disagree with the 50% rules recommendation of not using reference. If you don't use reference, you'll just end up symbol drawing like when you were a kid. The point of that recommendation is to help you not be afraid of drawing badly, so I kind of get it, but it just didn't work well for me. Learn some basic observational drawing (like from ctrlpaint.com) and just sketch things for fun, keeping in mind that it will look bad for a while. Also, if you use reference, try to combine multiple references, and take general parts of them, don't make it an exercise/study, since the 50% rule is meant to be fun, not study/work. | What do you want to draw eventually? | 1 | 923 | 1.333333 | ||
z4mfx0 | artfundamentals_train | 0.83 | Draw a Box dropout / completion poll On my other account i asked how many did complete the course and when did they stop, if they didnt completed it. Turns out, a lot of people wants to know that, so i make a poll. Here you can vote where you stopped or if you completed the course. This is for people that did stopped or completed the course. View Poll | ixrlfpy | ixs4jlj | 1,669,405,934 | 1,669,414,436 | 1 | 15 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Is there a way to see the results without giving up on drawabox? Edit: Oh I just need to complete the course. Silly me I'll see you all in 6 months. | 0 | 8,502 | 15 | ||
z4mfx0 | artfundamentals_train | 0.83 | Draw a Box dropout / completion poll On my other account i asked how many did complete the course and when did they stop, if they didnt completed it. Turns out, a lot of people wants to know that, so i make a poll. Here you can vote where you stopped or if you completed the course. This is for people that did stopped or completed the course. View Poll | ixtbqgg | ixrlfpy | 1,669,437,021 | 1,669,405,934 | 11 | 1 | Where's the lesson 0 option? | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 31,087 | 11 | ||
z4mfx0 | artfundamentals_train | 0.83 | Draw a Box dropout / completion poll On my other account i asked how many did complete the course and when did they stop, if they didnt completed it. Turns out, a lot of people wants to know that, so i make a poll. Here you can vote where you stopped or if you completed the course. This is for people that did stopped or completed the course. View Poll | ixu7mcw | ixrlfpy | 1,669,462,395 | 1,669,405,934 | 5 | 1 | I stopped after the animal lesson, I believe that's the 5th. After a few weeks I came back to it and stopped again during the cylinder challenge. Now I come back every so often to practice the basics or if I don't know what to draw. 😅 However, I do want to finish it someday. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 56,461 | 5 | ||
z4mfx0 | artfundamentals_train | 0.83 | Draw a Box dropout / completion poll On my other account i asked how many did complete the course and when did they stop, if they didnt completed it. Turns out, a lot of people wants to know that, so i make a poll. Here you can vote where you stopped or if you completed the course. This is for people that did stopped or completed the course. View Poll | ixrt0re | ixrlfpy | 1,669,409,268 | 1,669,405,934 | 3 | 1 | I feel roasted, Im gonna start it back up again and complete it | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 3,334 | 3 | ||
z4mfx0 | artfundamentals_train | 0.83 | Draw a Box dropout / completion poll On my other account i asked how many did complete the course and when did they stop, if they didnt completed it. Turns out, a lot of people wants to know that, so i make a poll. Here you can vote where you stopped or if you completed the course. This is for people that did stopped or completed the course. View Poll | ixrt0re | ixs4jlj | 1,669,409,268 | 1,669,414,436 | 3 | 15 | I feel roasted, Im gonna start it back up again and complete it | Is there a way to see the results without giving up on drawabox? Edit: Oh I just need to complete the course. Silly me I'll see you all in 6 months. | 0 | 5,168 | 5 | ||
z4mfx0 | artfundamentals_train | 0.83 | Draw a Box dropout / completion poll On my other account i asked how many did complete the course and when did they stop, if they didnt completed it. Turns out, a lot of people wants to know that, so i make a poll. Here you can vote where you stopped or if you completed the course. This is for people that did stopped or completed the course. View Poll | ixtbqgg | ixrt0re | 1,669,437,021 | 1,669,409,268 | 11 | 3 | Where's the lesson 0 option? | I feel roasted, Im gonna start it back up again and complete it | 1 | 27,753 | 3.666667 | ||
z4mfx0 | artfundamentals_train | 0.83 | Draw a Box dropout / completion poll On my other account i asked how many did complete the course and when did they stop, if they didnt completed it. Turns out, a lot of people wants to know that, so i make a poll. Here you can vote where you stopped or if you completed the course. This is for people that did stopped or completed the course. View Poll | ixrt0re | ixu7mcw | 1,669,409,268 | 1,669,462,395 | 3 | 5 | I feel roasted, Im gonna start it back up again and complete it | I stopped after the animal lesson, I believe that's the 5th. After a few weeks I came back to it and stopped again during the cylinder challenge. Now I come back every so often to practice the basics or if I don't know what to draw. 😅 However, I do want to finish it someday. | 0 | 53,127 | 1.666667 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hacfhg5 | hac7bdf | 1,629,927,095 | 1,629,923,753 | 21 | 11 | I have ADHD and I made it through lesson 1 for the first time recently after multiple tries in the past :) Here's what I found, at least for me: 1) Drawabox can be done in small bites. It isn't very grindy (except for 250 box challenge) and surprisingly ADHD friendly as long as you can get started. 2) Drawabox can also be done in long, hyperfocus sessions. I've enjoyed it that way as well. Try and see which works for you, or do both. The key is not to force yourself into a particular strategy and then give up when it doesn't work. Keep experimenting to see what your brain likes. 3) Getting started (ie how do you decide to sit down and do a session?): this is a whole nother can of worms. This involves using tools to help with executive dysfunction. I've found planning to help a lot; I've been using the Tiimo app recently and it's worked wonders. With planning, again, the key is not to view your plan as a prison, but as a helpful suggestion for what to do at various points throughout the day. For further ideas on tools to assist with executive function, I recommend "Taking Control: The ADHD Podcast". 4) Sometimes the ADHD brain needs novelty. Instead of just stopping with Drawabox when you simply can't muster the energy to start it anymore, maybe try taking a short break with another art curriculum. This tweet has a long list of potential resources for people aspiring to learn art. No pressure, and good luck! | I have had diagnosed ADHD for 8+ years, but that does not in any way qualify me as an expert on the subject. I don't engage with communities revolving around ADHD or mental health in general, as I find people in such circles are far too quick to present their beliefs/experiences as universal fact with no supporting evidence. Everything I say here is mostly stuff I'm parroting from my therapist, and only reflects my understanding of what we've discussed. Executive functioning describes a set of behaviors. ADHD and executive functioning disorders in general can alter or inhibit these behaviors in different ways depending on the individual. One of these is self motivation, which makes chronic procrastination a fairly common symptom of an executive functioning disorder. I'm guessing that when you bring up ADHD, the main issue that you are having is with working memory. This has always been something that gives me trouble as well. When drawing, I often find it challenging to focus on the big picture and make sure everything lines up correctly. If this is not your issue, it would be helpful to know the specific ways you find yourself impacted by ADHD when drawing. The solution that I've found to the above problem is to constantly change my view of what I'm working on. My understanding is that this is a really good strategy in general for everyone regardless of executive functioning skill, but it's especially critical for me. If you're using traditional media as Drawabox recommends, you should constantly rotate your paper anyways for each line. I've switched over to mainly digital for my art, and make HEAVY use of features that allow me to flip the canvas horizontally and vertically, zoom in and out, and rotate the canvas as well. The other trick is to avoid working without breaks for long stretches of time. | 1 | 3,342 | 1.909091 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hacfhg5 | habp0pd | 1,629,927,095 | 1,629,916,500 | 21 | 11 | I have ADHD and I made it through lesson 1 for the first time recently after multiple tries in the past :) Here's what I found, at least for me: 1) Drawabox can be done in small bites. It isn't very grindy (except for 250 box challenge) and surprisingly ADHD friendly as long as you can get started. 2) Drawabox can also be done in long, hyperfocus sessions. I've enjoyed it that way as well. Try and see which works for you, or do both. The key is not to force yourself into a particular strategy and then give up when it doesn't work. Keep experimenting to see what your brain likes. 3) Getting started (ie how do you decide to sit down and do a session?): this is a whole nother can of worms. This involves using tools to help with executive dysfunction. I've found planning to help a lot; I've been using the Tiimo app recently and it's worked wonders. With planning, again, the key is not to view your plan as a prison, but as a helpful suggestion for what to do at various points throughout the day. For further ideas on tools to assist with executive function, I recommend "Taking Control: The ADHD Podcast". 4) Sometimes the ADHD brain needs novelty. Instead of just stopping with Drawabox when you simply can't muster the energy to start it anymore, maybe try taking a short break with another art curriculum. This tweet has a long list of potential resources for people aspiring to learn art. No pressure, and good luck! | If you are unmedicated then get medicated. Otherwise it’s a losing battle depending on the severity. Some people find success in not stressing about sticking to it, and just go with the flow of whatever you feel like doing, as long as you do come back to what you want to do when it’s novel again. But becoming medicated is the most reliable fix. This is just on my experience with adhd. My case is pretty severe so it depends on the person. | 1 | 10,595 | 1.909091 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hacczal | hacfhg5 | 1,629,926,050 | 1,629,927,095 | 8 | 21 | Ohmg, me too! They say focus mate is good. I haven’t managed to get beyond downloading it, though. I’m almost finished with lesson 1. I listened to How To ADHD - an episode where Jessica recommends using triggers to let me know to do a thing, and I see the triggers (someone sharing art on Reddit) and acknowledge “Oh I should draw a box,” and then I keep scrolling. I recommend continuing where you left off but after warmups because nothing will stop a person w/ADHD in their tracks like having to start over. | I have ADHD and I made it through lesson 1 for the first time recently after multiple tries in the past :) Here's what I found, at least for me: 1) Drawabox can be done in small bites. It isn't very grindy (except for 250 box challenge) and surprisingly ADHD friendly as long as you can get started. 2) Drawabox can also be done in long, hyperfocus sessions. I've enjoyed it that way as well. Try and see which works for you, or do both. The key is not to force yourself into a particular strategy and then give up when it doesn't work. Keep experimenting to see what your brain likes. 3) Getting started (ie how do you decide to sit down and do a session?): this is a whole nother can of worms. This involves using tools to help with executive dysfunction. I've found planning to help a lot; I've been using the Tiimo app recently and it's worked wonders. With planning, again, the key is not to view your plan as a prison, but as a helpful suggestion for what to do at various points throughout the day. For further ideas on tools to assist with executive function, I recommend "Taking Control: The ADHD Podcast". 4) Sometimes the ADHD brain needs novelty. Instead of just stopping with Drawabox when you simply can't muster the energy to start it anymore, maybe try taking a short break with another art curriculum. This tweet has a long list of potential resources for people aspiring to learn art. No pressure, and good luck! | 0 | 1,045 | 2.625 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habqq39 | hacfhg5 | 1,629,917,183 | 1,629,927,095 | 5 | 21 | I smoke a lot of weed and have adhd. I started only smoking while i draw and i draw a hell of a lot more now. | I have ADHD and I made it through lesson 1 for the first time recently after multiple tries in the past :) Here's what I found, at least for me: 1) Drawabox can be done in small bites. It isn't very grindy (except for 250 box challenge) and surprisingly ADHD friendly as long as you can get started. 2) Drawabox can also be done in long, hyperfocus sessions. I've enjoyed it that way as well. Try and see which works for you, or do both. The key is not to force yourself into a particular strategy and then give up when it doesn't work. Keep experimenting to see what your brain likes. 3) Getting started (ie how do you decide to sit down and do a session?): this is a whole nother can of worms. This involves using tools to help with executive dysfunction. I've found planning to help a lot; I've been using the Tiimo app recently and it's worked wonders. With planning, again, the key is not to view your plan as a prison, but as a helpful suggestion for what to do at various points throughout the day. For further ideas on tools to assist with executive function, I recommend "Taking Control: The ADHD Podcast". 4) Sometimes the ADHD brain needs novelty. Instead of just stopping with Drawabox when you simply can't muster the energy to start it anymore, maybe try taking a short break with another art curriculum. This tweet has a long list of potential resources for people aspiring to learn art. No pressure, and good luck! | 0 | 9,912 | 4.2 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hacfhg5 | habp3kh | 1,629,927,095 | 1,629,916,532 | 21 | 3 | I have ADHD and I made it through lesson 1 for the first time recently after multiple tries in the past :) Here's what I found, at least for me: 1) Drawabox can be done in small bites. It isn't very grindy (except for 250 box challenge) and surprisingly ADHD friendly as long as you can get started. 2) Drawabox can also be done in long, hyperfocus sessions. I've enjoyed it that way as well. Try and see which works for you, or do both. The key is not to force yourself into a particular strategy and then give up when it doesn't work. Keep experimenting to see what your brain likes. 3) Getting started (ie how do you decide to sit down and do a session?): this is a whole nother can of worms. This involves using tools to help with executive dysfunction. I've found planning to help a lot; I've been using the Tiimo app recently and it's worked wonders. With planning, again, the key is not to view your plan as a prison, but as a helpful suggestion for what to do at various points throughout the day. For further ideas on tools to assist with executive function, I recommend "Taking Control: The ADHD Podcast". 4) Sometimes the ADHD brain needs novelty. Instead of just stopping with Drawabox when you simply can't muster the energy to start it anymore, maybe try taking a short break with another art curriculum. This tweet has a long list of potential resources for people aspiring to learn art. No pressure, and good luck! | If it's been a year it might be best to start over, unless you got pretty far in the course. I don't have ADHD or executive dysfunction so I don't know if this will work for you, but what helped me stop procrastinating on it was to build the habit of drawing regularly and then go from there. What I did was draw every day, but only as much as I felt like at first. If I did an entire exercise in a day, great. If I only did a few lines, that was fine too. I didn't care how much I actually did at this point, I just focused on the fact that I did something. Doing that for at least a month will instill the habit from drawing daily, and once you have the habit it becomes much easier to push yourself to do it. The idea is it's easier to build the habit first and then increase the amount you do from there than it is to try and brute force your way to doing a lot. A lot of people think something like "I'm gonna draw 3 hours everyday" or "I'm gonna finish at least 1 exercise everyday" but usually what winds up happening is they do it for a bit, burn out and get discouraged from continuing. I was the same, but when I started doing this method a few months ago I was able to stick with it, and while my progress seemed slow at first I've gotten far more done in these last few months than ever before. | 1 | 10,563 | 7 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hacfhg5 | habqr0b | 1,629,927,095 | 1,629,917,193 | 21 | 1 | I have ADHD and I made it through lesson 1 for the first time recently after multiple tries in the past :) Here's what I found, at least for me: 1) Drawabox can be done in small bites. It isn't very grindy (except for 250 box challenge) and surprisingly ADHD friendly as long as you can get started. 2) Drawabox can also be done in long, hyperfocus sessions. I've enjoyed it that way as well. Try and see which works for you, or do both. The key is not to force yourself into a particular strategy and then give up when it doesn't work. Keep experimenting to see what your brain likes. 3) Getting started (ie how do you decide to sit down and do a session?): this is a whole nother can of worms. This involves using tools to help with executive dysfunction. I've found planning to help a lot; I've been using the Tiimo app recently and it's worked wonders. With planning, again, the key is not to view your plan as a prison, but as a helpful suggestion for what to do at various points throughout the day. For further ideas on tools to assist with executive function, I recommend "Taking Control: The ADHD Podcast". 4) Sometimes the ADHD brain needs novelty. Instead of just stopping with Drawabox when you simply can't muster the energy to start it anymore, maybe try taking a short break with another art curriculum. This tweet has a long list of potential resources for people aspiring to learn art. No pressure, and good luck! | Maybe pick up where you left off, just so that you don’t stop at the same place this time. You might have a better time finding advice and strategies for overcoming procrastination/executive dysfunction in ADHD related communities than here. There are a lot of ways to approach habit formation, and you’ll have the best idea of what will work for you. I like scheduling art time, and if I sit down with all my supplies out at a specific time, I’ll draw; if I don’t get much done that session, I just try again next time. If you have other drawing that you like doing or enjoy that’s easier for your brain to access, consider working on draw a box as a 10 minute warm up before you work on personal projects; it’s good to let it take a long time if that’s what works for you. There are also ways to accommodate for challenges in focusing. I paint, and I like to work on more than one painting at once bc waiting for paint to dry is really annoying, and having a lot of things going on helps me stay in a groove and really works for me; you can always have your draw a box notebook as one of two open projects. Maybe try it out without taking notes too, or write all your notes at the end of a work session instead of along the way. I also like to make assignments for myself with personal projects and keep post its with ideas around my workspace. Most of all be kind and patient with yourself; it’s much more important to enjoy what you’re doing at the beginning if you want to make art into a lasting practice. Even 30 minutes a week is good to start if that’s what you can manage. If you’re feeling dread about drawing, forcing yourself through it will make your breaks longer and make you more anxious coming back in. | 1 | 9,902 | 21 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | had2tz7 | hach1k3 | 1,629,937,494 | 1,629,927,752 | 17 | 13 | as soon as you get bored, take a break. Find a point in the day when you're engaged by tasks (for me it's 9:30am to about 12pm) and plan to draw in that time period. Notice when your brain becomes tired of it and close the book, don't let your brain put it in the "chores" category. Put the book and drawing utensils somewhere easy to pick up. When you've done something, be happy about it! even if it's 5 - 10 minutes, just congratulate yourself for practicing. You have to treat yourself like little kid with these learning difficulties. Criticism will be an obstacle that you don't need to cross until you are ready to publish your work. The practice sketches and little exercises are purely for you. So if you make a bad drawing, it doesnt matter! edit: also when you are mindlessly watching youtube, subscribe to artists channels and watch their tutorials and lessons. Likewise on instagram or TikTok or whatever, follow artists and cram your feed with people making art that you like. It might sneak technique into your daily routine. | Break it down into bite-sized pieces like “Just get out the pens and paper” or “I’ll just draw for two minutes”. Getting started is the difficult bit but once you do hopefully you'll get the momentum going. It helps if you pair “drawing time” with something else you enjoy (and doesn't distract) such as, for me, listening to music or Steven Zapata (an amazing artist!) on YouTube. Don't let doing technical exercises overtake the creative and flow process. Be sure to also let yourself have fun / self-expressive without judgement. Good luck! | 1 | 9,742 | 1.307692 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hac7bdf | had2tz7 | 1,629,923,753 | 1,629,937,494 | 11 | 17 | I have had diagnosed ADHD for 8+ years, but that does not in any way qualify me as an expert on the subject. I don't engage with communities revolving around ADHD or mental health in general, as I find people in such circles are far too quick to present their beliefs/experiences as universal fact with no supporting evidence. Everything I say here is mostly stuff I'm parroting from my therapist, and only reflects my understanding of what we've discussed. Executive functioning describes a set of behaviors. ADHD and executive functioning disorders in general can alter or inhibit these behaviors in different ways depending on the individual. One of these is self motivation, which makes chronic procrastination a fairly common symptom of an executive functioning disorder. I'm guessing that when you bring up ADHD, the main issue that you are having is with working memory. This has always been something that gives me trouble as well. When drawing, I often find it challenging to focus on the big picture and make sure everything lines up correctly. If this is not your issue, it would be helpful to know the specific ways you find yourself impacted by ADHD when drawing. The solution that I've found to the above problem is to constantly change my view of what I'm working on. My understanding is that this is a really good strategy in general for everyone regardless of executive functioning skill, but it's especially critical for me. If you're using traditional media as Drawabox recommends, you should constantly rotate your paper anyways for each line. I've switched over to mainly digital for my art, and make HEAVY use of features that allow me to flip the canvas horizontally and vertically, zoom in and out, and rotate the canvas as well. The other trick is to avoid working without breaks for long stretches of time. | as soon as you get bored, take a break. Find a point in the day when you're engaged by tasks (for me it's 9:30am to about 12pm) and plan to draw in that time period. Notice when your brain becomes tired of it and close the book, don't let your brain put it in the "chores" category. Put the book and drawing utensils somewhere easy to pick up. When you've done something, be happy about it! even if it's 5 - 10 minutes, just congratulate yourself for practicing. You have to treat yourself like little kid with these learning difficulties. Criticism will be an obstacle that you don't need to cross until you are ready to publish your work. The practice sketches and little exercises are purely for you. So if you make a bad drawing, it doesnt matter! edit: also when you are mindlessly watching youtube, subscribe to artists channels and watch their tutorials and lessons. Likewise on instagram or TikTok or whatever, follow artists and cram your feed with people making art that you like. It might sneak technique into your daily routine. | 0 | 13,741 | 1.545455 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | had2tz7 | habp0pd | 1,629,937,494 | 1,629,916,500 | 17 | 11 | as soon as you get bored, take a break. Find a point in the day when you're engaged by tasks (for me it's 9:30am to about 12pm) and plan to draw in that time period. Notice when your brain becomes tired of it and close the book, don't let your brain put it in the "chores" category. Put the book and drawing utensils somewhere easy to pick up. When you've done something, be happy about it! even if it's 5 - 10 minutes, just congratulate yourself for practicing. You have to treat yourself like little kid with these learning difficulties. Criticism will be an obstacle that you don't need to cross until you are ready to publish your work. The practice sketches and little exercises are purely for you. So if you make a bad drawing, it doesnt matter! edit: also when you are mindlessly watching youtube, subscribe to artists channels and watch their tutorials and lessons. Likewise on instagram or TikTok or whatever, follow artists and cram your feed with people making art that you like. It might sneak technique into your daily routine. | If you are unmedicated then get medicated. Otherwise it’s a losing battle depending on the severity. Some people find success in not stressing about sticking to it, and just go with the flow of whatever you feel like doing, as long as you do come back to what you want to do when it’s novel again. But becoming medicated is the most reliable fix. This is just on my experience with adhd. My case is pretty severe so it depends on the person. | 1 | 20,994 | 1.545455 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hacczal | had2tz7 | 1,629,926,050 | 1,629,937,494 | 8 | 17 | Ohmg, me too! They say focus mate is good. I haven’t managed to get beyond downloading it, though. I’m almost finished with lesson 1. I listened to How To ADHD - an episode where Jessica recommends using triggers to let me know to do a thing, and I see the triggers (someone sharing art on Reddit) and acknowledge “Oh I should draw a box,” and then I keep scrolling. I recommend continuing where you left off but after warmups because nothing will stop a person w/ADHD in their tracks like having to start over. | as soon as you get bored, take a break. Find a point in the day when you're engaged by tasks (for me it's 9:30am to about 12pm) and plan to draw in that time period. Notice when your brain becomes tired of it and close the book, don't let your brain put it in the "chores" category. Put the book and drawing utensils somewhere easy to pick up. When you've done something, be happy about it! even if it's 5 - 10 minutes, just congratulate yourself for practicing. You have to treat yourself like little kid with these learning difficulties. Criticism will be an obstacle that you don't need to cross until you are ready to publish your work. The practice sketches and little exercises are purely for you. So if you make a bad drawing, it doesnt matter! edit: also when you are mindlessly watching youtube, subscribe to artists channels and watch their tutorials and lessons. Likewise on instagram or TikTok or whatever, follow artists and cram your feed with people making art that you like. It might sneak technique into your daily routine. | 0 | 11,444 | 2.125 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | had2tz7 | habqq39 | 1,629,937,494 | 1,629,917,183 | 17 | 5 | as soon as you get bored, take a break. Find a point in the day when you're engaged by tasks (for me it's 9:30am to about 12pm) and plan to draw in that time period. Notice when your brain becomes tired of it and close the book, don't let your brain put it in the "chores" category. Put the book and drawing utensils somewhere easy to pick up. When you've done something, be happy about it! even if it's 5 - 10 minutes, just congratulate yourself for practicing. You have to treat yourself like little kid with these learning difficulties. Criticism will be an obstacle that you don't need to cross until you are ready to publish your work. The practice sketches and little exercises are purely for you. So if you make a bad drawing, it doesnt matter! edit: also when you are mindlessly watching youtube, subscribe to artists channels and watch their tutorials and lessons. Likewise on instagram or TikTok or whatever, follow artists and cram your feed with people making art that you like. It might sneak technique into your daily routine. | I smoke a lot of weed and have adhd. I started only smoking while i draw and i draw a hell of a lot more now. | 1 | 20,311 | 3.4 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habp3kh | had2tz7 | 1,629,916,532 | 1,629,937,494 | 3 | 17 | If it's been a year it might be best to start over, unless you got pretty far in the course. I don't have ADHD or executive dysfunction so I don't know if this will work for you, but what helped me stop procrastinating on it was to build the habit of drawing regularly and then go from there. What I did was draw every day, but only as much as I felt like at first. If I did an entire exercise in a day, great. If I only did a few lines, that was fine too. I didn't care how much I actually did at this point, I just focused on the fact that I did something. Doing that for at least a month will instill the habit from drawing daily, and once you have the habit it becomes much easier to push yourself to do it. The idea is it's easier to build the habit first and then increase the amount you do from there than it is to try and brute force your way to doing a lot. A lot of people think something like "I'm gonna draw 3 hours everyday" or "I'm gonna finish at least 1 exercise everyday" but usually what winds up happening is they do it for a bit, burn out and get discouraged from continuing. I was the same, but when I started doing this method a few months ago I was able to stick with it, and while my progress seemed slow at first I've gotten far more done in these last few months than ever before. | as soon as you get bored, take a break. Find a point in the day when you're engaged by tasks (for me it's 9:30am to about 12pm) and plan to draw in that time period. Notice when your brain becomes tired of it and close the book, don't let your brain put it in the "chores" category. Put the book and drawing utensils somewhere easy to pick up. When you've done something, be happy about it! even if it's 5 - 10 minutes, just congratulate yourself for practicing. You have to treat yourself like little kid with these learning difficulties. Criticism will be an obstacle that you don't need to cross until you are ready to publish your work. The practice sketches and little exercises are purely for you. So if you make a bad drawing, it doesnt matter! edit: also when you are mindlessly watching youtube, subscribe to artists channels and watch their tutorials and lessons. Likewise on instagram or TikTok or whatever, follow artists and cram your feed with people making art that you like. It might sneak technique into your daily routine. | 0 | 20,962 | 5.666667 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | had2tz7 | habqr0b | 1,629,937,494 | 1,629,917,193 | 17 | 1 | as soon as you get bored, take a break. Find a point in the day when you're engaged by tasks (for me it's 9:30am to about 12pm) and plan to draw in that time period. Notice when your brain becomes tired of it and close the book, don't let your brain put it in the "chores" category. Put the book and drawing utensils somewhere easy to pick up. When you've done something, be happy about it! even if it's 5 - 10 minutes, just congratulate yourself for practicing. You have to treat yourself like little kid with these learning difficulties. Criticism will be an obstacle that you don't need to cross until you are ready to publish your work. The practice sketches and little exercises are purely for you. So if you make a bad drawing, it doesnt matter! edit: also when you are mindlessly watching youtube, subscribe to artists channels and watch their tutorials and lessons. Likewise on instagram or TikTok or whatever, follow artists and cram your feed with people making art that you like. It might sneak technique into your daily routine. | Maybe pick up where you left off, just so that you don’t stop at the same place this time. You might have a better time finding advice and strategies for overcoming procrastination/executive dysfunction in ADHD related communities than here. There are a lot of ways to approach habit formation, and you’ll have the best idea of what will work for you. I like scheduling art time, and if I sit down with all my supplies out at a specific time, I’ll draw; if I don’t get much done that session, I just try again next time. If you have other drawing that you like doing or enjoy that’s easier for your brain to access, consider working on draw a box as a 10 minute warm up before you work on personal projects; it’s good to let it take a long time if that’s what works for you. There are also ways to accommodate for challenges in focusing. I paint, and I like to work on more than one painting at once bc waiting for paint to dry is really annoying, and having a lot of things going on helps me stay in a groove and really works for me; you can always have your draw a box notebook as one of two open projects. Maybe try it out without taking notes too, or write all your notes at the end of a work session instead of along the way. I also like to make assignments for myself with personal projects and keep post its with ideas around my workspace. Most of all be kind and patient with yourself; it’s much more important to enjoy what you’re doing at the beginning if you want to make art into a lasting practice. Even 30 minutes a week is good to start if that’s what you can manage. If you’re feeling dread about drawing, forcing yourself through it will make your breaks longer and make you more anxious coming back in. | 1 | 20,301 | 17 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hach1k3 | hac7bdf | 1,629,927,752 | 1,629,923,753 | 13 | 11 | Break it down into bite-sized pieces like “Just get out the pens and paper” or “I’ll just draw for two minutes”. Getting started is the difficult bit but once you do hopefully you'll get the momentum going. It helps if you pair “drawing time” with something else you enjoy (and doesn't distract) such as, for me, listening to music or Steven Zapata (an amazing artist!) on YouTube. Don't let doing technical exercises overtake the creative and flow process. Be sure to also let yourself have fun / self-expressive without judgement. Good luck! | I have had diagnosed ADHD for 8+ years, but that does not in any way qualify me as an expert on the subject. I don't engage with communities revolving around ADHD or mental health in general, as I find people in such circles are far too quick to present their beliefs/experiences as universal fact with no supporting evidence. Everything I say here is mostly stuff I'm parroting from my therapist, and only reflects my understanding of what we've discussed. Executive functioning describes a set of behaviors. ADHD and executive functioning disorders in general can alter or inhibit these behaviors in different ways depending on the individual. One of these is self motivation, which makes chronic procrastination a fairly common symptom of an executive functioning disorder. I'm guessing that when you bring up ADHD, the main issue that you are having is with working memory. This has always been something that gives me trouble as well. When drawing, I often find it challenging to focus on the big picture and make sure everything lines up correctly. If this is not your issue, it would be helpful to know the specific ways you find yourself impacted by ADHD when drawing. The solution that I've found to the above problem is to constantly change my view of what I'm working on. My understanding is that this is a really good strategy in general for everyone regardless of executive functioning skill, but it's especially critical for me. If you're using traditional media as Drawabox recommends, you should constantly rotate your paper anyways for each line. I've switched over to mainly digital for my art, and make HEAVY use of features that allow me to flip the canvas horizontally and vertically, zoom in and out, and rotate the canvas as well. The other trick is to avoid working without breaks for long stretches of time. | 1 | 3,999 | 1.181818 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hach1k3 | habp0pd | 1,629,927,752 | 1,629,916,500 | 13 | 11 | Break it down into bite-sized pieces like “Just get out the pens and paper” or “I’ll just draw for two minutes”. Getting started is the difficult bit but once you do hopefully you'll get the momentum going. It helps if you pair “drawing time” with something else you enjoy (and doesn't distract) such as, for me, listening to music or Steven Zapata (an amazing artist!) on YouTube. Don't let doing technical exercises overtake the creative and flow process. Be sure to also let yourself have fun / self-expressive without judgement. Good luck! | If you are unmedicated then get medicated. Otherwise it’s a losing battle depending on the severity. Some people find success in not stressing about sticking to it, and just go with the flow of whatever you feel like doing, as long as you do come back to what you want to do when it’s novel again. But becoming medicated is the most reliable fix. This is just on my experience with adhd. My case is pretty severe so it depends on the person. | 1 | 11,252 | 1.181818 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hach1k3 | hacczal | 1,629,927,752 | 1,629,926,050 | 13 | 8 | Break it down into bite-sized pieces like “Just get out the pens and paper” or “I’ll just draw for two minutes”. Getting started is the difficult bit but once you do hopefully you'll get the momentum going. It helps if you pair “drawing time” with something else you enjoy (and doesn't distract) such as, for me, listening to music or Steven Zapata (an amazing artist!) on YouTube. Don't let doing technical exercises overtake the creative and flow process. Be sure to also let yourself have fun / self-expressive without judgement. Good luck! | Ohmg, me too! They say focus mate is good. I haven’t managed to get beyond downloading it, though. I’m almost finished with lesson 1. I listened to How To ADHD - an episode where Jessica recommends using triggers to let me know to do a thing, and I see the triggers (someone sharing art on Reddit) and acknowledge “Oh I should draw a box,” and then I keep scrolling. I recommend continuing where you left off but after warmups because nothing will stop a person w/ADHD in their tracks like having to start over. | 1 | 1,702 | 1.625 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hach1k3 | habqq39 | 1,629,927,752 | 1,629,917,183 | 13 | 5 | Break it down into bite-sized pieces like “Just get out the pens and paper” or “I’ll just draw for two minutes”. Getting started is the difficult bit but once you do hopefully you'll get the momentum going. It helps if you pair “drawing time” with something else you enjoy (and doesn't distract) such as, for me, listening to music or Steven Zapata (an amazing artist!) on YouTube. Don't let doing technical exercises overtake the creative and flow process. Be sure to also let yourself have fun / self-expressive without judgement. Good luck! | I smoke a lot of weed and have adhd. I started only smoking while i draw and i draw a hell of a lot more now. | 1 | 10,569 | 2.6 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habp3kh | hach1k3 | 1,629,916,532 | 1,629,927,752 | 3 | 13 | If it's been a year it might be best to start over, unless you got pretty far in the course. I don't have ADHD or executive dysfunction so I don't know if this will work for you, but what helped me stop procrastinating on it was to build the habit of drawing regularly and then go from there. What I did was draw every day, but only as much as I felt like at first. If I did an entire exercise in a day, great. If I only did a few lines, that was fine too. I didn't care how much I actually did at this point, I just focused on the fact that I did something. Doing that for at least a month will instill the habit from drawing daily, and once you have the habit it becomes much easier to push yourself to do it. The idea is it's easier to build the habit first and then increase the amount you do from there than it is to try and brute force your way to doing a lot. A lot of people think something like "I'm gonna draw 3 hours everyday" or "I'm gonna finish at least 1 exercise everyday" but usually what winds up happening is they do it for a bit, burn out and get discouraged from continuing. I was the same, but when I started doing this method a few months ago I was able to stick with it, and while my progress seemed slow at first I've gotten far more done in these last few months than ever before. | Break it down into bite-sized pieces like “Just get out the pens and paper” or “I’ll just draw for two minutes”. Getting started is the difficult bit but once you do hopefully you'll get the momentum going. It helps if you pair “drawing time” with something else you enjoy (and doesn't distract) such as, for me, listening to music or Steven Zapata (an amazing artist!) on YouTube. Don't let doing technical exercises overtake the creative and flow process. Be sure to also let yourself have fun / self-expressive without judgement. Good luck! | 0 | 11,220 | 4.333333 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habqr0b | hach1k3 | 1,629,917,193 | 1,629,927,752 | 1 | 13 | Maybe pick up where you left off, just so that you don’t stop at the same place this time. You might have a better time finding advice and strategies for overcoming procrastination/executive dysfunction in ADHD related communities than here. There are a lot of ways to approach habit formation, and you’ll have the best idea of what will work for you. I like scheduling art time, and if I sit down with all my supplies out at a specific time, I’ll draw; if I don’t get much done that session, I just try again next time. If you have other drawing that you like doing or enjoy that’s easier for your brain to access, consider working on draw a box as a 10 minute warm up before you work on personal projects; it’s good to let it take a long time if that’s what works for you. There are also ways to accommodate for challenges in focusing. I paint, and I like to work on more than one painting at once bc waiting for paint to dry is really annoying, and having a lot of things going on helps me stay in a groove and really works for me; you can always have your draw a box notebook as one of two open projects. Maybe try it out without taking notes too, or write all your notes at the end of a work session instead of along the way. I also like to make assignments for myself with personal projects and keep post its with ideas around my workspace. Most of all be kind and patient with yourself; it’s much more important to enjoy what you’re doing at the beginning if you want to make art into a lasting practice. Even 30 minutes a week is good to start if that’s what you can manage. If you’re feeling dread about drawing, forcing yourself through it will make your breaks longer and make you more anxious coming back in. | Break it down into bite-sized pieces like “Just get out the pens and paper” or “I’ll just draw for two minutes”. Getting started is the difficult bit but once you do hopefully you'll get the momentum going. It helps if you pair “drawing time” with something else you enjoy (and doesn't distract) such as, for me, listening to music or Steven Zapata (an amazing artist!) on YouTube. Don't let doing technical exercises overtake the creative and flow process. Be sure to also let yourself have fun / self-expressive without judgement. Good luck! | 0 | 10,559 | 13 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hac7bdf | habqq39 | 1,629,923,753 | 1,629,917,183 | 11 | 5 | I have had diagnosed ADHD for 8+ years, but that does not in any way qualify me as an expert on the subject. I don't engage with communities revolving around ADHD or mental health in general, as I find people in such circles are far too quick to present their beliefs/experiences as universal fact with no supporting evidence. Everything I say here is mostly stuff I'm parroting from my therapist, and only reflects my understanding of what we've discussed. Executive functioning describes a set of behaviors. ADHD and executive functioning disorders in general can alter or inhibit these behaviors in different ways depending on the individual. One of these is self motivation, which makes chronic procrastination a fairly common symptom of an executive functioning disorder. I'm guessing that when you bring up ADHD, the main issue that you are having is with working memory. This has always been something that gives me trouble as well. When drawing, I often find it challenging to focus on the big picture and make sure everything lines up correctly. If this is not your issue, it would be helpful to know the specific ways you find yourself impacted by ADHD when drawing. The solution that I've found to the above problem is to constantly change my view of what I'm working on. My understanding is that this is a really good strategy in general for everyone regardless of executive functioning skill, but it's especially critical for me. If you're using traditional media as Drawabox recommends, you should constantly rotate your paper anyways for each line. I've switched over to mainly digital for my art, and make HEAVY use of features that allow me to flip the canvas horizontally and vertically, zoom in and out, and rotate the canvas as well. The other trick is to avoid working without breaks for long stretches of time. | I smoke a lot of weed and have adhd. I started only smoking while i draw and i draw a hell of a lot more now. | 1 | 6,570 | 2.2 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habp3kh | hac7bdf | 1,629,916,532 | 1,629,923,753 | 3 | 11 | If it's been a year it might be best to start over, unless you got pretty far in the course. I don't have ADHD or executive dysfunction so I don't know if this will work for you, but what helped me stop procrastinating on it was to build the habit of drawing regularly and then go from there. What I did was draw every day, but only as much as I felt like at first. If I did an entire exercise in a day, great. If I only did a few lines, that was fine too. I didn't care how much I actually did at this point, I just focused on the fact that I did something. Doing that for at least a month will instill the habit from drawing daily, and once you have the habit it becomes much easier to push yourself to do it. The idea is it's easier to build the habit first and then increase the amount you do from there than it is to try and brute force your way to doing a lot. A lot of people think something like "I'm gonna draw 3 hours everyday" or "I'm gonna finish at least 1 exercise everyday" but usually what winds up happening is they do it for a bit, burn out and get discouraged from continuing. I was the same, but when I started doing this method a few months ago I was able to stick with it, and while my progress seemed slow at first I've gotten far more done in these last few months than ever before. | I have had diagnosed ADHD for 8+ years, but that does not in any way qualify me as an expert on the subject. I don't engage with communities revolving around ADHD or mental health in general, as I find people in such circles are far too quick to present their beliefs/experiences as universal fact with no supporting evidence. Everything I say here is mostly stuff I'm parroting from my therapist, and only reflects my understanding of what we've discussed. Executive functioning describes a set of behaviors. ADHD and executive functioning disorders in general can alter or inhibit these behaviors in different ways depending on the individual. One of these is self motivation, which makes chronic procrastination a fairly common symptom of an executive functioning disorder. I'm guessing that when you bring up ADHD, the main issue that you are having is with working memory. This has always been something that gives me trouble as well. When drawing, I often find it challenging to focus on the big picture and make sure everything lines up correctly. If this is not your issue, it would be helpful to know the specific ways you find yourself impacted by ADHD when drawing. The solution that I've found to the above problem is to constantly change my view of what I'm working on. My understanding is that this is a really good strategy in general for everyone regardless of executive functioning skill, but it's especially critical for me. If you're using traditional media as Drawabox recommends, you should constantly rotate your paper anyways for each line. I've switched over to mainly digital for my art, and make HEAVY use of features that allow me to flip the canvas horizontally and vertically, zoom in and out, and rotate the canvas as well. The other trick is to avoid working without breaks for long stretches of time. | 0 | 7,221 | 3.666667 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habqr0b | hac7bdf | 1,629,917,193 | 1,629,923,753 | 1 | 11 | Maybe pick up where you left off, just so that you don’t stop at the same place this time. You might have a better time finding advice and strategies for overcoming procrastination/executive dysfunction in ADHD related communities than here. There are a lot of ways to approach habit formation, and you’ll have the best idea of what will work for you. I like scheduling art time, and if I sit down with all my supplies out at a specific time, I’ll draw; if I don’t get much done that session, I just try again next time. If you have other drawing that you like doing or enjoy that’s easier for your brain to access, consider working on draw a box as a 10 minute warm up before you work on personal projects; it’s good to let it take a long time if that’s what works for you. There are also ways to accommodate for challenges in focusing. I paint, and I like to work on more than one painting at once bc waiting for paint to dry is really annoying, and having a lot of things going on helps me stay in a groove and really works for me; you can always have your draw a box notebook as one of two open projects. Maybe try it out without taking notes too, or write all your notes at the end of a work session instead of along the way. I also like to make assignments for myself with personal projects and keep post its with ideas around my workspace. Most of all be kind and patient with yourself; it’s much more important to enjoy what you’re doing at the beginning if you want to make art into a lasting practice. Even 30 minutes a week is good to start if that’s what you can manage. If you’re feeling dread about drawing, forcing yourself through it will make your breaks longer and make you more anxious coming back in. | I have had diagnosed ADHD for 8+ years, but that does not in any way qualify me as an expert on the subject. I don't engage with communities revolving around ADHD or mental health in general, as I find people in such circles are far too quick to present their beliefs/experiences as universal fact with no supporting evidence. Everything I say here is mostly stuff I'm parroting from my therapist, and only reflects my understanding of what we've discussed. Executive functioning describes a set of behaviors. ADHD and executive functioning disorders in general can alter or inhibit these behaviors in different ways depending on the individual. One of these is self motivation, which makes chronic procrastination a fairly common symptom of an executive functioning disorder. I'm guessing that when you bring up ADHD, the main issue that you are having is with working memory. This has always been something that gives me trouble as well. When drawing, I often find it challenging to focus on the big picture and make sure everything lines up correctly. If this is not your issue, it would be helpful to know the specific ways you find yourself impacted by ADHD when drawing. The solution that I've found to the above problem is to constantly change my view of what I'm working on. My understanding is that this is a really good strategy in general for everyone regardless of executive functioning skill, but it's especially critical for me. If you're using traditional media as Drawabox recommends, you should constantly rotate your paper anyways for each line. I've switched over to mainly digital for my art, and make HEAVY use of features that allow me to flip the canvas horizontally and vertically, zoom in and out, and rotate the canvas as well. The other trick is to avoid working without breaks for long stretches of time. | 0 | 6,560 | 11 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hae9znk | habqq39 | 1,629,961,263 | 1,629,917,183 | 8 | 5 | What i do is tell myself im gonna do something in advance and then i somehow do it. Example: Rant, tomorrow ypu need to wake up early. Go to the bank then get your laptop fixed Brain: ERRANDS Me: ughhh errands. | I smoke a lot of weed and have adhd. I started only smoking while i draw and i draw a hell of a lot more now. | 1 | 44,080 | 1.6 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habp3kh | hae9znk | 1,629,916,532 | 1,629,961,263 | 3 | 8 | If it's been a year it might be best to start over, unless you got pretty far in the course. I don't have ADHD or executive dysfunction so I don't know if this will work for you, but what helped me stop procrastinating on it was to build the habit of drawing regularly and then go from there. What I did was draw every day, but only as much as I felt like at first. If I did an entire exercise in a day, great. If I only did a few lines, that was fine too. I didn't care how much I actually did at this point, I just focused on the fact that I did something. Doing that for at least a month will instill the habit from drawing daily, and once you have the habit it becomes much easier to push yourself to do it. The idea is it's easier to build the habit first and then increase the amount you do from there than it is to try and brute force your way to doing a lot. A lot of people think something like "I'm gonna draw 3 hours everyday" or "I'm gonna finish at least 1 exercise everyday" but usually what winds up happening is they do it for a bit, burn out and get discouraged from continuing. I was the same, but when I started doing this method a few months ago I was able to stick with it, and while my progress seemed slow at first I've gotten far more done in these last few months than ever before. | What i do is tell myself im gonna do something in advance and then i somehow do it. Example: Rant, tomorrow ypu need to wake up early. Go to the bank then get your laptop fixed Brain: ERRANDS Me: ughhh errands. | 0 | 44,731 | 2.666667 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habqr0b | hae9znk | 1,629,917,193 | 1,629,961,263 | 1 | 8 | Maybe pick up where you left off, just so that you don’t stop at the same place this time. You might have a better time finding advice and strategies for overcoming procrastination/executive dysfunction in ADHD related communities than here. There are a lot of ways to approach habit formation, and you’ll have the best idea of what will work for you. I like scheduling art time, and if I sit down with all my supplies out at a specific time, I’ll draw; if I don’t get much done that session, I just try again next time. If you have other drawing that you like doing or enjoy that’s easier for your brain to access, consider working on draw a box as a 10 minute warm up before you work on personal projects; it’s good to let it take a long time if that’s what works for you. There are also ways to accommodate for challenges in focusing. I paint, and I like to work on more than one painting at once bc waiting for paint to dry is really annoying, and having a lot of things going on helps me stay in a groove and really works for me; you can always have your draw a box notebook as one of two open projects. Maybe try it out without taking notes too, or write all your notes at the end of a work session instead of along the way. I also like to make assignments for myself with personal projects and keep post its with ideas around my workspace. Most of all be kind and patient with yourself; it’s much more important to enjoy what you’re doing at the beginning if you want to make art into a lasting practice. Even 30 minutes a week is good to start if that’s what you can manage. If you’re feeling dread about drawing, forcing yourself through it will make your breaks longer and make you more anxious coming back in. | What i do is tell myself im gonna do something in advance and then i somehow do it. Example: Rant, tomorrow ypu need to wake up early. Go to the bank then get your laptop fixed Brain: ERRANDS Me: ughhh errands. | 0 | 44,070 | 8 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habqq39 | hacczal | 1,629,917,183 | 1,629,926,050 | 5 | 8 | I smoke a lot of weed and have adhd. I started only smoking while i draw and i draw a hell of a lot more now. | Ohmg, me too! They say focus mate is good. I haven’t managed to get beyond downloading it, though. I’m almost finished with lesson 1. I listened to How To ADHD - an episode where Jessica recommends using triggers to let me know to do a thing, and I see the triggers (someone sharing art on Reddit) and acknowledge “Oh I should draw a box,” and then I keep scrolling. I recommend continuing where you left off but after warmups because nothing will stop a person w/ADHD in their tracks like having to start over. | 0 | 8,867 | 1.6 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hacczal | habp3kh | 1,629,926,050 | 1,629,916,532 | 8 | 3 | Ohmg, me too! They say focus mate is good. I haven’t managed to get beyond downloading it, though. I’m almost finished with lesson 1. I listened to How To ADHD - an episode where Jessica recommends using triggers to let me know to do a thing, and I see the triggers (someone sharing art on Reddit) and acknowledge “Oh I should draw a box,” and then I keep scrolling. I recommend continuing where you left off but after warmups because nothing will stop a person w/ADHD in their tracks like having to start over. | If it's been a year it might be best to start over, unless you got pretty far in the course. I don't have ADHD or executive dysfunction so I don't know if this will work for you, but what helped me stop procrastinating on it was to build the habit of drawing regularly and then go from there. What I did was draw every day, but only as much as I felt like at first. If I did an entire exercise in a day, great. If I only did a few lines, that was fine too. I didn't care how much I actually did at this point, I just focused on the fact that I did something. Doing that for at least a month will instill the habit from drawing daily, and once you have the habit it becomes much easier to push yourself to do it. The idea is it's easier to build the habit first and then increase the amount you do from there than it is to try and brute force your way to doing a lot. A lot of people think something like "I'm gonna draw 3 hours everyday" or "I'm gonna finish at least 1 exercise everyday" but usually what winds up happening is they do it for a bit, burn out and get discouraged from continuing. I was the same, but when I started doing this method a few months ago I was able to stick with it, and while my progress seemed slow at first I've gotten far more done in these last few months than ever before. | 1 | 9,518 | 2.666667 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hacczal | habqr0b | 1,629,926,050 | 1,629,917,193 | 8 | 1 | Ohmg, me too! They say focus mate is good. I haven’t managed to get beyond downloading it, though. I’m almost finished with lesson 1. I listened to How To ADHD - an episode where Jessica recommends using triggers to let me know to do a thing, and I see the triggers (someone sharing art on Reddit) and acknowledge “Oh I should draw a box,” and then I keep scrolling. I recommend continuing where you left off but after warmups because nothing will stop a person w/ADHD in their tracks like having to start over. | Maybe pick up where you left off, just so that you don’t stop at the same place this time. You might have a better time finding advice and strategies for overcoming procrastination/executive dysfunction in ADHD related communities than here. There are a lot of ways to approach habit formation, and you’ll have the best idea of what will work for you. I like scheduling art time, and if I sit down with all my supplies out at a specific time, I’ll draw; if I don’t get much done that session, I just try again next time. If you have other drawing that you like doing or enjoy that’s easier for your brain to access, consider working on draw a box as a 10 minute warm up before you work on personal projects; it’s good to let it take a long time if that’s what works for you. There are also ways to accommodate for challenges in focusing. I paint, and I like to work on more than one painting at once bc waiting for paint to dry is really annoying, and having a lot of things going on helps me stay in a groove and really works for me; you can always have your draw a box notebook as one of two open projects. Maybe try it out without taking notes too, or write all your notes at the end of a work session instead of along the way. I also like to make assignments for myself with personal projects and keep post its with ideas around my workspace. Most of all be kind and patient with yourself; it’s much more important to enjoy what you’re doing at the beginning if you want to make art into a lasting practice. Even 30 minutes a week is good to start if that’s what you can manage. If you’re feeling dread about drawing, forcing yourself through it will make your breaks longer and make you more anxious coming back in. | 1 | 8,857 | 8 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hadv2jd | habqq39 | 1,629,951,083 | 1,629,917,183 | 8 | 5 | take a break everytime you feel like not doing it, don't force you brain to do thing it doesn't want to (I tried, didn't work, I spent more time looking at the blank screen than actually working). It's ok to take it slow and do it in small chunks, don't grind. Also if you're completely drained of motivation, I found out that watching art related videos helps (like Proko's for example) | I smoke a lot of weed and have adhd. I started only smoking while i draw and i draw a hell of a lot more now. | 1 | 33,900 | 1.6 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | hadv2jd | habp3kh | 1,629,951,083 | 1,629,916,532 | 8 | 3 | take a break everytime you feel like not doing it, don't force you brain to do thing it doesn't want to (I tried, didn't work, I spent more time looking at the blank screen than actually working). It's ok to take it slow and do it in small chunks, don't grind. Also if you're completely drained of motivation, I found out that watching art related videos helps (like Proko's for example) | If it's been a year it might be best to start over, unless you got pretty far in the course. I don't have ADHD or executive dysfunction so I don't know if this will work for you, but what helped me stop procrastinating on it was to build the habit of drawing regularly and then go from there. What I did was draw every day, but only as much as I felt like at first. If I did an entire exercise in a day, great. If I only did a few lines, that was fine too. I didn't care how much I actually did at this point, I just focused on the fact that I did something. Doing that for at least a month will instill the habit from drawing daily, and once you have the habit it becomes much easier to push yourself to do it. The idea is it's easier to build the habit first and then increase the amount you do from there than it is to try and brute force your way to doing a lot. A lot of people think something like "I'm gonna draw 3 hours everyday" or "I'm gonna finish at least 1 exercise everyday" but usually what winds up happening is they do it for a bit, burn out and get discouraged from continuing. I was the same, but when I started doing this method a few months ago I was able to stick with it, and while my progress seemed slow at first I've gotten far more done in these last few months than ever before. | 1 | 34,551 | 2.666667 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habqr0b | hadv2jd | 1,629,917,193 | 1,629,951,083 | 1 | 8 | Maybe pick up where you left off, just so that you don’t stop at the same place this time. You might have a better time finding advice and strategies for overcoming procrastination/executive dysfunction in ADHD related communities than here. There are a lot of ways to approach habit formation, and you’ll have the best idea of what will work for you. I like scheduling art time, and if I sit down with all my supplies out at a specific time, I’ll draw; if I don’t get much done that session, I just try again next time. If you have other drawing that you like doing or enjoy that’s easier for your brain to access, consider working on draw a box as a 10 minute warm up before you work on personal projects; it’s good to let it take a long time if that’s what works for you. There are also ways to accommodate for challenges in focusing. I paint, and I like to work on more than one painting at once bc waiting for paint to dry is really annoying, and having a lot of things going on helps me stay in a groove and really works for me; you can always have your draw a box notebook as one of two open projects. Maybe try it out without taking notes too, or write all your notes at the end of a work session instead of along the way. I also like to make assignments for myself with personal projects and keep post its with ideas around my workspace. Most of all be kind and patient with yourself; it’s much more important to enjoy what you’re doing at the beginning if you want to make art into a lasting practice. Even 30 minutes a week is good to start if that’s what you can manage. If you’re feeling dread about drawing, forcing yourself through it will make your breaks longer and make you more anxious coming back in. | take a break everytime you feel like not doing it, don't force you brain to do thing it doesn't want to (I tried, didn't work, I spent more time looking at the blank screen than actually working). It's ok to take it slow and do it in small chunks, don't grind. Also if you're completely drained of motivation, I found out that watching art related videos helps (like Proko's for example) | 0 | 33,890 | 8 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habqq39 | hafsvqx | 1,629,917,183 | 1,629,993,648 | 5 | 6 | I smoke a lot of weed and have adhd. I started only smoking while i draw and i draw a hell of a lot more now. | Remember to do normal fun drawing more than you do draw a box. Don’t let draw a box make you stop drawing altogether because you do t feel like doing draw a box. | 0 | 76,465 | 1.2 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habp3kh | hafsvqx | 1,629,916,532 | 1,629,993,648 | 3 | 6 | If it's been a year it might be best to start over, unless you got pretty far in the course. I don't have ADHD or executive dysfunction so I don't know if this will work for you, but what helped me stop procrastinating on it was to build the habit of drawing regularly and then go from there. What I did was draw every day, but only as much as I felt like at first. If I did an entire exercise in a day, great. If I only did a few lines, that was fine too. I didn't care how much I actually did at this point, I just focused on the fact that I did something. Doing that for at least a month will instill the habit from drawing daily, and once you have the habit it becomes much easier to push yourself to do it. The idea is it's easier to build the habit first and then increase the amount you do from there than it is to try and brute force your way to doing a lot. A lot of people think something like "I'm gonna draw 3 hours everyday" or "I'm gonna finish at least 1 exercise everyday" but usually what winds up happening is they do it for a bit, burn out and get discouraged from continuing. I was the same, but when I started doing this method a few months ago I was able to stick with it, and while my progress seemed slow at first I've gotten far more done in these last few months than ever before. | Remember to do normal fun drawing more than you do draw a box. Don’t let draw a box make you stop drawing altogether because you do t feel like doing draw a box. | 0 | 77,116 | 2 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habqr0b | hafsvqx | 1,629,917,193 | 1,629,993,648 | 1 | 6 | Maybe pick up where you left off, just so that you don’t stop at the same place this time. You might have a better time finding advice and strategies for overcoming procrastination/executive dysfunction in ADHD related communities than here. There are a lot of ways to approach habit formation, and you’ll have the best idea of what will work for you. I like scheduling art time, and if I sit down with all my supplies out at a specific time, I’ll draw; if I don’t get much done that session, I just try again next time. If you have other drawing that you like doing or enjoy that’s easier for your brain to access, consider working on draw a box as a 10 minute warm up before you work on personal projects; it’s good to let it take a long time if that’s what works for you. There are also ways to accommodate for challenges in focusing. I paint, and I like to work on more than one painting at once bc waiting for paint to dry is really annoying, and having a lot of things going on helps me stay in a groove and really works for me; you can always have your draw a box notebook as one of two open projects. Maybe try it out without taking notes too, or write all your notes at the end of a work session instead of along the way. I also like to make assignments for myself with personal projects and keep post its with ideas around my workspace. Most of all be kind and patient with yourself; it’s much more important to enjoy what you’re doing at the beginning if you want to make art into a lasting practice. Even 30 minutes a week is good to start if that’s what you can manage. If you’re feeling dread about drawing, forcing yourself through it will make your breaks longer and make you more anxious coming back in. | Remember to do normal fun drawing more than you do draw a box. Don’t let draw a box make you stop drawing altogether because you do t feel like doing draw a box. | 0 | 76,455 | 6 | ||
pbftf1 | artfundamentals_train | 0.94 | ADHD/Executive Dysfunction while trying to do draw a box. Help? Title explains it all. Last year, I started draw a box in hopes of getting better, while also taking notes in a notebook to help me remember notes. It's been pretty much a year since I did that though, and while I want to try and get back into it, I suffer from some neat things like adhd, procrastination and executive dysfunction. Anyone have any tips on how to get over those hurdles? Among that, should I start from the beginning again or do I continue where I left off? | habqq39 | habp3kh | 1,629,917,183 | 1,629,916,532 | 5 | 3 | I smoke a lot of weed and have adhd. I started only smoking while i draw and i draw a hell of a lot more now. | If it's been a year it might be best to start over, unless you got pretty far in the course. I don't have ADHD or executive dysfunction so I don't know if this will work for you, but what helped me stop procrastinating on it was to build the habit of drawing regularly and then go from there. What I did was draw every day, but only as much as I felt like at first. If I did an entire exercise in a day, great. If I only did a few lines, that was fine too. I didn't care how much I actually did at this point, I just focused on the fact that I did something. Doing that for at least a month will instill the habit from drawing daily, and once you have the habit it becomes much easier to push yourself to do it. The idea is it's easier to build the habit first and then increase the amount you do from there than it is to try and brute force your way to doing a lot. A lot of people think something like "I'm gonna draw 3 hours everyday" or "I'm gonna finish at least 1 exercise everyday" but usually what winds up happening is they do it for a bit, burn out and get discouraged from continuing. I was the same, but when I started doing this method a few months ago I was able to stick with it, and while my progress seemed slow at first I've gotten far more done in these last few months than ever before. | 1 | 651 | 1.666667 | ||
tj9a49 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Anyone else having/had issues with Shaky hands? I am experiencing that my hands and arms are super shaky when doing the exercises, I just wonder if anyone else has had these issues and if it gets better? I'd guess it will, but it is nice to hear it from you guys. I've kinda been doing art for a while, and I have implemented my shakyness into my style instead of trying to work against it, so I probably will have an extra hill to climb over when it comes to wobbly lines. | i1kc9o6 | i1jd0de | 1,647,888,863 | 1,647,875,002 | 14 | 4 | I have something called an ‘essential tremor’. I don’t know why its called that because i could certainly do without it. I’ve had it at least since high school, because my earliest memory of the tremor was during dissection of a fetal pig. It was my day to dissect and my lab partner’s day to take notes. She watched my hand shaking like crazy as I picked up the scalpel. She was extremely worried because we were taking out the brain and there were extra credits for removing a perfectly intact brain. She asked if she could take over because of the shaking. I asked her to let me start and if it looks like I can’t be precise we could switch. As soon as the blade touched the pig the tremors stopped. Just having the blade agains the skull was enough of an anchor. A few years later I worked in surgery and the head (as in lead, not skulls) surgeon had a similar tremor, but much more pronounced. As soon as the scalpel touched the patient’s skin he was solid as a rock. I found out that feeling pressured makes the tremors worse, and feeling confident makes them better. Now I’m 66 and the tremors are far worse. Feeling pressure, like a deadline, or trying to reproduce something accurately makes them almost comically exaggerated. Otherwise they’re pretty bad at rest and confidence may or may not have an effect. It’s a crap-shoot as to whether I’ll be able to do art at any given hour of any given day. If it’s particularly pronounced in the morning, I can be pretty sure it will affect me all day long. If your situation is similar to mine, and the tremor hasn’t progressed to the point that it affects even things that have good muscle memory, you would just need to keep at the exercises until you build that muscle memory. I have to wait for a good day to do them. Good luck. I hope you can build the memory and confidence to do well. | So are you drawing with your wrist or shoulder? It takes a long time to achieve lines that are not wobbly. It is a balance game that takes a long time. But your lines will always have a bit of shakiness that is unique to each individual. So don’t beat yourself up about it. But keep striving on improving your line quality. Also do you do daily drawabox exercises? | 1 | 13,861 | 3.5 | ||
tj9a49 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Anyone else having/had issues with Shaky hands? I am experiencing that my hands and arms are super shaky when doing the exercises, I just wonder if anyone else has had these issues and if it gets better? I'd guess it will, but it is nice to hear it from you guys. I've kinda been doing art for a while, and I have implemented my shakyness into my style instead of trying to work against it, so I probably will have an extra hill to climb over when it comes to wobbly lines. | i1jtkpf | i1kc9o6 | 1,647,881,586 | 1,647,888,863 | 5 | 14 | I have shakiness sometimes, depending on how bad it is and if there are other factors affecting my mood/ alertness I'll usually leave drawing until later. It could also be your body needs to learn how to make those movements if you're a complete beginner, that is totally normal. | I have something called an ‘essential tremor’. I don’t know why its called that because i could certainly do without it. I’ve had it at least since high school, because my earliest memory of the tremor was during dissection of a fetal pig. It was my day to dissect and my lab partner’s day to take notes. She watched my hand shaking like crazy as I picked up the scalpel. She was extremely worried because we were taking out the brain and there were extra credits for removing a perfectly intact brain. She asked if she could take over because of the shaking. I asked her to let me start and if it looks like I can’t be precise we could switch. As soon as the blade touched the pig the tremors stopped. Just having the blade agains the skull was enough of an anchor. A few years later I worked in surgery and the head (as in lead, not skulls) surgeon had a similar tremor, but much more pronounced. As soon as the scalpel touched the patient’s skin he was solid as a rock. I found out that feeling pressured makes the tremors worse, and feeling confident makes them better. Now I’m 66 and the tremors are far worse. Feeling pressure, like a deadline, or trying to reproduce something accurately makes them almost comically exaggerated. Otherwise they’re pretty bad at rest and confidence may or may not have an effect. It’s a crap-shoot as to whether I’ll be able to do art at any given hour of any given day. If it’s particularly pronounced in the morning, I can be pretty sure it will affect me all day long. If your situation is similar to mine, and the tremor hasn’t progressed to the point that it affects even things that have good muscle memory, you would just need to keep at the exercises until you build that muscle memory. I have to wait for a good day to do them. Good luck. I hope you can build the memory and confidence to do well. | 0 | 7,277 | 2.8 | ||
tj9a49 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Anyone else having/had issues with Shaky hands? I am experiencing that my hands and arms are super shaky when doing the exercises, I just wonder if anyone else has had these issues and if it gets better? I'd guess it will, but it is nice to hear it from you guys. I've kinda been doing art for a while, and I have implemented my shakyness into my style instead of trying to work against it, so I probably will have an extra hill to climb over when it comes to wobbly lines. | i1klbih | i1jd0de | 1,647,892,544 | 1,647,875,002 | 5 | 4 | Resting against something helps. You can also see a doctor about it. Depending on the cause, you can take medication for it. | So are you drawing with your wrist or shoulder? It takes a long time to achieve lines that are not wobbly. It is a balance game that takes a long time. But your lines will always have a bit of shakiness that is unique to each individual. So don’t beat yourself up about it. But keep striving on improving your line quality. Also do you do daily drawabox exercises? | 1 | 17,542 | 1.25 | ||
tj9a49 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Anyone else having/had issues with Shaky hands? I am experiencing that my hands and arms are super shaky when doing the exercises, I just wonder if anyone else has had these issues and if it gets better? I'd guess it will, but it is nice to hear it from you guys. I've kinda been doing art for a while, and I have implemented my shakyness into my style instead of trying to work against it, so I probably will have an extra hill to climb over when it comes to wobbly lines. | i1kgc8x | i1klbih | 1,647,890,497 | 1,647,892,544 | 4 | 5 | I paint a lot of tiny things, so I make sure I’m posted up nicely on the desk to keep stability as best I can. Also, slowly making lines makes them way more shaky. So buckle in and speed up, for starters. | Resting against something helps. You can also see a doctor about it. Depending on the cause, you can take medication for it. | 0 | 2,047 | 1.25 | ||
tj9a49 | artfundamentals_train | 0.87 | Anyone else having/had issues with Shaky hands? I am experiencing that my hands and arms are super shaky when doing the exercises, I just wonder if anyone else has had these issues and if it gets better? I'd guess it will, but it is nice to hear it from you guys. I've kinda been doing art for a while, and I have implemented my shakyness into my style instead of trying to work against it, so I probably will have an extra hill to climb over when it comes to wobbly lines. | i1jtkpf | i1jd0de | 1,647,881,586 | 1,647,875,002 | 5 | 4 | I have shakiness sometimes, depending on how bad it is and if there are other factors affecting my mood/ alertness I'll usually leave drawing until later. It could also be your body needs to learn how to make those movements if you're a complete beginner, that is totally normal. | So are you drawing with your wrist or shoulder? It takes a long time to achieve lines that are not wobbly. It is a balance game that takes a long time. But your lines will always have a bit of shakiness that is unique to each individual. So don’t beat yourself up about it. But keep striving on improving your line quality. Also do you do daily drawabox exercises? | 1 | 6,584 | 1.25 | ||
ccgj6k | artfundamentals_train | 0.91 | A bit of a struggle with 250 box challenge or just boxes in gerenal Havent really started the challenge yet - been practising today with boxes. Am I supposed to be starting from a Y shape and building off it, starting with a face... super confusing. I can do some angles perfect then get fucked on like 90% of them | etms4m8 | etmqlif | 1,562,967,210 | 1,562,966,132 | 10 | 3 | Just get started and I start with a y first then look at how the angles are gonna be with my next lines. Did you read the draw a box lesson? In my Opinion it’s even more important then the video and it tells you all of this information. Please don’t skip the reading and begin your journey on the 250 box challenge. Just recently finished it and it took me a good 2 weeks every day to complete | You can technically start your boxes however you want. However there is a good reason for starting your boxes with the Y shape, and it relates to how you actually build a box on paper. Starting with the Y shape is the best way to get the size and rotation of a box down on paper as quickly as possible. Think about it. If you start with a face or some other shape like say the front-bottom-right corner, you're going to have tons of missing information regarding the size of the box and its rotation. The Y shape has missing information too, but it's the most effective way to pull a box out of your head and onto the paper. With regards to drawing angles wrong. Yeah, that's just how it is. The reason you're drawing 30-50 pages of boxes is because you're gonna be really bad at the start, and hopefully a lot better by the end. You'll start to better understand the properties of perspective and viewpoint and how to draw lines that look right in 3D and such, but it takes time and effort. Odds are you won't even be that good at drawing boxes after the challenge. You'd probably need to draw closer to 2000 boxes to do it right every time (not that you need to, because the other lessons train those same skills in different and more fun ways) | 1 | 1,078 | 3.333333 | ||
zf1yrk | artfundamentals_train | 1 | Wobbly lines and having issues drawing from the shoulder Hey, I reached the "organic rotated boxes" excersise but I still seem to have issues drawing from my shoulder. Somehow I focus so much on drawing from my shoulder while ghosting, that my whole arm tenses up (and ultimately becomes so weak and shaky), resulting in a wobbly line. Most of the time it even becomes so exhausting, that I become short of breath. Around 50% of my lines are still wobbly. But even with my heavy focus on drawing from my shoulder, it seems that my shoulder doesn't move at all (maybe by a few milimeters), but only my elbow, resulting in me even more focussing on moving my shoulder and even more strain. How can I overcome this issue? | izaw17t | iz9jnhr | 1,670,441,692 | 1,670,422,046 | 3 | 1 | You can rest your hand or just 1 or 2 fingers on your paper/table while drawing to help with fatigue. There's no need to have your entire hand floating in the air. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 19,646 | 3 | ||
zf1yrk | artfundamentals_train | 1 | Wobbly lines and having issues drawing from the shoulder Hey, I reached the "organic rotated boxes" excersise but I still seem to have issues drawing from my shoulder. Somehow I focus so much on drawing from my shoulder while ghosting, that my whole arm tenses up (and ultimately becomes so weak and shaky), resulting in a wobbly line. Most of the time it even becomes so exhausting, that I become short of breath. Around 50% of my lines are still wobbly. But even with my heavy focus on drawing from my shoulder, it seems that my shoulder doesn't move at all (maybe by a few milimeters), but only my elbow, resulting in me even more focussing on moving my shoulder and even more strain. How can I overcome this issue? | izdatad | iz9jnhr | 1,670,482,036 | 1,670,422,046 | 2 | 1 | This is just a guess coming from a noob…. Take small breaks throughout your exercises. Draw for a few minutes and then relax your arm and body for a few minutes. Then, get back to it. So, your body learns to relax while drawing. It may loosen your shoulder muscles, so movement in your shoulder increases and shaking reduces. Which may in turn, allow for more fluid movement and solid lines. | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 59,990 | 2 | ||
z69yyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | Poor line quality due to muscle weakness Good day, I have been doing drawabox for a bit. 60 boxes in, I have surgery on my neck to remove lymph nodes. Now that I'm picking back up again, that shoulder is having issues performing like it used to, resulting in hairy or slightly curved lines. What should I do about this? Should I stop the challenge to work on line quality and then continue or should I continue? | iy05vwv | iy06lcb | 1,669,576,973 | 1,669,577,256 | 1 | 14 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | To be completely honest, I think this question - though I have approved it - is best asked to your doctor. The folks in this community simply won't have the understanding of how things impact the human body, or of your specific circumstances, to be able to offer reliable advice. Some of the answers people offer may help, but be careful - you never know what advice you receive from well meaning people that can be harmful. | 0 | 283 | 14 | ||
z69yyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | Poor line quality due to muscle weakness Good day, I have been doing drawabox for a bit. 60 boxes in, I have surgery on my neck to remove lymph nodes. Now that I'm picking back up again, that shoulder is having issues performing like it used to, resulting in hairy or slightly curved lines. What should I do about this? Should I stop the challenge to work on line quality and then continue or should I continue? | iy05vwv | iy0uyr8 | 1,669,576,973 | 1,669,586,912 | 1 | 15 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Personally, I feel you should follow the option that sounds best to you. Would you be happier moving forward or would you prefer to get it perfect to you? Your mark making is showing your recent experiences, which I personally think is kinda cool to run with. | 0 | 9,939 | 15 | ||
z69yyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | Poor line quality due to muscle weakness Good day, I have been doing drawabox for a bit. 60 boxes in, I have surgery on my neck to remove lymph nodes. Now that I'm picking back up again, that shoulder is having issues performing like it used to, resulting in hairy or slightly curved lines. What should I do about this? Should I stop the challenge to work on line quality and then continue or should I continue? | iy05vwv | iy2eyxi | 1,669,576,973 | 1,669,614,193 | 1 | 15 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | I have extreme shakiness due to neurological issues. My line quality is awful. I consider things like rulers and compasses assisstive devices. They don't make me less of an artist and I'm still learning the concepts. Some people wear glasses when they do art and that doesn't make them less of an artist. If you are learning the concepts and you don't mind having shaky or curved lines, don't let anything stop you. Do whatever makes you learn best. | 0 | 37,220 | 15 | ||
z69yyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | Poor line quality due to muscle weakness Good day, I have been doing drawabox for a bit. 60 boxes in, I have surgery on my neck to remove lymph nodes. Now that I'm picking back up again, that shoulder is having issues performing like it used to, resulting in hairy or slightly curved lines. What should I do about this? Should I stop the challenge to work on line quality and then continue or should I continue? | iy0mi16 | iy05vwv | 1,669,583,483 | 1,669,576,973 | 7 | 1 | I would think that line quality will come back with practice. I certainly hope so - I broke my shoulder in September lol | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | 1 | 6,510 | 7 | ||
z69yyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | Poor line quality due to muscle weakness Good day, I have been doing drawabox for a bit. 60 boxes in, I have surgery on my neck to remove lymph nodes. Now that I'm picking back up again, that shoulder is having issues performing like it used to, resulting in hairy or slightly curved lines. What should I do about this? Should I stop the challenge to work on line quality and then continue or should I continue? | iy05vwv | iy34cm1 | 1,669,576,973 | 1,669,635,152 | 1 | 4 | **To OP**: Every post on this subreddit is manually approved, once we make sure it adheres to the subreddit rules, the main ones being the following: * That **all posts here must relate drawabox.com** (being either questions or homework submissions). More on that can be found here. * All homework submissions must be complete - **single exercises and partial work is not allowed on the subreddit**, as mentioned in this video from Lesson 0. You can however get feedback on individual exercises on the discord chat server, and the folks there would be happy to help you out. If you find that your post breaks either of these rules, we would recommend deleting your post yourself, and submitting on one of these other more general art communities instead: * /r/learnart or /r/learntodraw if you're looking for feedback on your work * /r/IDAP is good for sharing work you're not looking for feedback on * /r/artistlounge and /r/learnart are good for general questions/discussion Just be sure to read through their own individual submission guidelines before posting. **To those responding**: If you are seeing this post, then it has been approved, and therefore is related to the lessons on drawabox.com. If you are yourself unfamiliar with them, then it's best that you not respond with your own advice, so as not to confuse or mislead OP. Thank you for your cooperation! *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/ArtFundamentals) if you have any questions or concerns.* | Ian liddle, you can google his sketches to check out he has almost no straight lines in his work they are very expressive and he still has that proper form in mind which make his art look good. If youre willing to get into painting you can opt for impressionism which can work in your favour as there is no rigid lines. If I were you Id play with form and shadow and light (value) more often to see where you can go from there, and use great books such as dynamic figure drawing by burne hogarth to supplement your drawing of form. What makes a good artist is their ability to overcome obstacles, I believe if you really wish to do art youll find a way that works with you and develop your own style. | 0 | 58,179 | 4 | ||
z69yyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | Poor line quality due to muscle weakness Good day, I have been doing drawabox for a bit. 60 boxes in, I have surgery on my neck to remove lymph nodes. Now that I'm picking back up again, that shoulder is having issues performing like it used to, resulting in hairy or slightly curved lines. What should I do about this? Should I stop the challenge to work on line quality and then continue or should I continue? | iy0uyr8 | iy06lcb | 1,669,586,912 | 1,669,577,256 | 15 | 14 | Personally, I feel you should follow the option that sounds best to you. Would you be happier moving forward or would you prefer to get it perfect to you? Your mark making is showing your recent experiences, which I personally think is kinda cool to run with. | To be completely honest, I think this question - though I have approved it - is best asked to your doctor. The folks in this community simply won't have the understanding of how things impact the human body, or of your specific circumstances, to be able to offer reliable advice. Some of the answers people offer may help, but be careful - you never know what advice you receive from well meaning people that can be harmful. | 1 | 9,656 | 1.071429 | ||
z69yyq | artfundamentals_train | 0.86 | Poor line quality due to muscle weakness Good day, I have been doing drawabox for a bit. 60 boxes in, I have surgery on my neck to remove lymph nodes. Now that I'm picking back up again, that shoulder is having issues performing like it used to, resulting in hairy or slightly curved lines. What should I do about this? Should I stop the challenge to work on line quality and then continue or should I continue? | iy2eyxi | iy06lcb | 1,669,614,193 | 1,669,577,256 | 15 | 14 | I have extreme shakiness due to neurological issues. My line quality is awful. I consider things like rulers and compasses assisstive devices. They don't make me less of an artist and I'm still learning the concepts. Some people wear glasses when they do art and that doesn't make them less of an artist. If you are learning the concepts and you don't mind having shaky or curved lines, don't let anything stop you. Do whatever makes you learn best. | To be completely honest, I think this question - though I have approved it - is best asked to your doctor. The folks in this community simply won't have the understanding of how things impact the human body, or of your specific circumstances, to be able to offer reliable advice. Some of the answers people offer may help, but be careful - you never know what advice you receive from well meaning people that can be harmful. | 1 | 36,937 | 1.071429 |
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