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[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not.." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?" ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"" ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada" ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently.", ">\n\nBiden has to get permission from Winnie the Pooh first." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently.", ">\n\nBiden has to get permission from Winnie the Pooh first.", ">\n\nIf china launches ww3 .. thats basically saying they're dumb enough to launch nukes and no one wins.. no point in that lol" ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently.", ">\n\nBiden has to get permission from Winnie the Pooh first.", ">\n\nIf china launches ww3 .. thats basically saying they're dumb enough to launch nukes and no one wins.. no point in that lol", ">\n\nMassive overreaction. Its a balloon. Better spying tech exists and is already always being used" ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently.", ">\n\nBiden has to get permission from Winnie the Pooh first.", ">\n\nIf china launches ww3 .. thats basically saying they're dumb enough to launch nukes and no one wins.. no point in that lol", ">\n\nMassive overreaction. Its a balloon. Better spying tech exists and is already always being used", ">\n\nWhy shoot it down at all? Seems petty." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently.", ">\n\nBiden has to get permission from Winnie the Pooh first.", ">\n\nIf china launches ww3 .. thats basically saying they're dumb enough to launch nukes and no one wins.. no point in that lol", ">\n\nMassive overreaction. Its a balloon. Better spying tech exists and is already always being used", ">\n\nWhy shoot it down at all? Seems petty.", ">\n\nI think they should to shut everyone up, and honestly, to send a message. Don’t freak people out over here." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently.", ">\n\nBiden has to get permission from Winnie the Pooh first.", ">\n\nIf china launches ww3 .. thats basically saying they're dumb enough to launch nukes and no one wins.. no point in that lol", ">\n\nMassive overreaction. Its a balloon. Better spying tech exists and is already always being used", ">\n\nWhy shoot it down at all? Seems petty.", ">\n\nI think they should to shut everyone up, and honestly, to send a message. Don’t freak people out over here.", ">\n\nBut if they shoot it down and it turns out it was just a weather balloon that got blown off course there would be no reason to be paranoid and outraged... Can't have that." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently.", ">\n\nBiden has to get permission from Winnie the Pooh first.", ">\n\nIf china launches ww3 .. thats basically saying they're dumb enough to launch nukes and no one wins.. no point in that lol", ">\n\nMassive overreaction. Its a balloon. Better spying tech exists and is already always being used", ">\n\nWhy shoot it down at all? Seems petty.", ">\n\nI think they should to shut everyone up, and honestly, to send a message. Don’t freak people out over here.", ">\n\nBut if they shoot it down and it turns out it was just a weather balloon that got blown off course there would be no reason to be paranoid and outraged... Can't have that.", ">\n\nIt has the ability to control where it goes." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently.", ">\n\nBiden has to get permission from Winnie the Pooh first.", ">\n\nIf china launches ww3 .. thats basically saying they're dumb enough to launch nukes and no one wins.. no point in that lol", ">\n\nMassive overreaction. Its a balloon. Better spying tech exists and is already always being used", ">\n\nWhy shoot it down at all? Seems petty.", ">\n\nI think they should to shut everyone up, and honestly, to send a message. Don’t freak people out over here.", ">\n\nBut if they shoot it down and it turns out it was just a weather balloon that got blown off course there would be no reason to be paranoid and outraged... Can't have that.", ">\n\nIt has the ability to control where it goes.", ">\n\nDo it live on YouTube, they can lower the deficit that way." ]

[ "POTUS just gave the order to shoot it down over Myrtle Beach", ">\n\nLooks like the scrappers will be eating steak tonight..", ">\n\nIts been shot down just right now", ">\n\nI'm in Myrtle Beach right now. Looks like the live shot is over at the beach on the Golden Mile area up near 63rd Ave. 2 jets took off this morning. Edit: above my house now near Back Gate old myrtle beach airforce base. Jets are doing circles and climbing. Edit. I saw them shoot it out my back patio!!! Edit: I've got video!!Edit: someone tell me how to post it? Edit: I'm just going to feed the cats and have some tea. Thanks for bring here for me. Bye, y'all.", ">\n\nPost it bro", ">\n\nIma try, gotta calm down. It is shaking shit quality!", ">\n\nDoesn’t matter if it’s potato lol you got a historic moment and that’s awesome.", ">\n\nYeah now post it so we can all complain about the cameraman", ">\n\nSome of the posts in this thread are good comedy. I can tell there are a lot of people on this sub who never lived during the cold war. Some are predicting WW3 over the potential downing of this balloon, or scared that the Chinese now know where nuclear missile silos are, even though they could just look that up on the Internet because the people who live near them know they are there, so it's hardly a secret.\nI realize being young means less life experience but people at any age above probably 5 can use critical thinking skills before posting dumb crap on the Internet.", ">\n\nMissile silos are also not a secret because of START and new-START. Basically, all ICBMS are inventoried and given to the Russians and we inform them ahead of time if we're going to move anything or do any testing or replacing. It's important so they don't freak out if their satellites detect movement.", ">\n\nThey also aren't even remotely camouflaged here in the states....\nIE, some are literally labeled on Google Earth.\nYou can also clearly see the silo, not exactly secret.\nHeck, if you visit Minuteman Missile National Historical Park you can even take pictures of silos.", ">\n\nMinuteman is a super cool tour, and it's right by Badlands National Park too, so worth a stop if you're passing through. Easy to miss both, though, as Wall Drug would like you to believe it's the premier attraction in the area.", ">\n\nWall Drug was uh, a decent place to stop for a drink/eat but not worth seeing on its own. Badlands and the missile silos were cool though.", ">\n\nProb gathered what they could and now the military says its fine to shoot down. Still find it funny the folks trying to say Biden wont shoot it down when all the reporting has stated the military was the one telling Biden to not shoot it down originally.", ">\n\nPeople are dumb and think President just does what he wants…oh yeah they used to trump…", ">\n\nRepublicans just like to blame everything on Biden and twist every event into some way to criticize him.", ">\n\nIf he shot it down, the story would be that Biden is scared of a balloon like a little weenie and why is he so weak and scared? \nThe only thing that matters to them is \"whatever Biden does is wrong\" and they'll figure out why afterward.", ">\n\nYeah and I love how they blame him for inflation even though that’s due to supply chain disruptions from Covid and the war in Ukraine. Also, the market forces of capitalism which gouge prices to take advantage of the situation.\nBut they blame government spending, which is extremely necessary to fix our outdated infrastructure and invest in the future of society.\nOf course, republicans will never let democrats tax the rich to pay for these needs or fix the deficit.", ">\n\nAnd they conveniently forget about the trade tariffs Trump imposed on China in 2017", ">\n\nBut it’s been flying thru the clouds. There’s a lot of information stored in clouds.", ">\n\nLmfao God damn that's a good one 💀", ">\n\nwe're tracking it live", ">\n\nOh fun!", ">\n\n80 million+ Americans using Tiktok, but we're this scared of a balloon.", ">\n\nPeople have already accepted our smart phones spy on us, for all kinds of interests. The spy balloon is a brazen airspace violation, which makes it more fascinating.", ">\n\nI'm surprised a fuckin home drone hasn't been out there to stab the damn thing. We're just watching this old as shit balloon with spy equipment just slowly drift across the country in full goddamn view and it has yet to be shot down.", ">\n\nIt’s … really high. Like higher than almost all airplanes can reach. No home drone is getting even 20k ft near it", ">\n\nThe amount of ridiculous suggestions I’ve seen over the past 2 days is truly scarier than any balloon lol.", ">\n\nWhat if we just jump really high and pull it down", ">\n\nAre you not listening? It's really high!!\nWe've already lost dozens to the dark void of space that never came back down.\nJumping. Not even once.", ">\n\nWhat if I bounce off of a trampoline?", ">\n\nBounce of a trampoline while throwing a pin at it REALLY REALLY hard?", ">\n\nIf the balloon is 60000 feet up, math (sqrt 60000 x 1.23) says that the balloon can see 301 miles to the horizon in any direction. That means 301 miles to the north of the flight path and 301 miles to the south of the flight path, so it can also see it for a total swath of 602 miles wide. The US is generally around 1100 miles from north to south, meaning that this balloon is theoretically visible to more than half the country (not necessarily half the eyes). People will get to ask, \"Where were you when the balloon floated by?\"", ">\n\nShoot it down then ban tiktok. Win-win.", ">\n\nI hope they do it carefully, in case a little boy hid in it before it took off from his parent's house...", ">\n\nI'm thinking this is going to be a big fat nothing burger, given a similar balloon is heading over Latin America (not exactly big spy opportunities there). \nBut it gave Fox News something to talk about for a couple of days.", ">\n\nActually, even CNN is all over this too.\nThe only main difference is\nRepublicans - \"Shoot it down\"\nDemocrats - \"Capture it instead\"", ">\n\nThey’re both saying the same things using different words, wowe", ">\n\nLaser! Burn a small hole, so that the balloon falls slowly enough so that we can examine unsmashed instruments.", ">\n\nWhy don't they just bring it down and check the equipment and technology on it... maybe it's useful... maybe it's trash. NORAD been tracking it for 19 days... seems sus.", ">\n\nOh yeah we will just go up there and gently put it on the trailer behind an F-15", ">\n\nI’d be very amused to see China’s reaction if we flew some balloons into their airspace like this. Because I don’t think they would “urge calm”. Pretty sure they would go full Karen and scream about it for months.", ">\n\nThey wouldn't announce it because it would make the government look weak.", ">\n\nJust watched it get shot down on a TikTok live over Coastal Carolina", ">\n\nWho didn't see this as the inevitable outcome?\n\"Nice troll, China. Now, if you want your toy back, go fish the pieces out of the water.\"", ">\n\nHave there been increase in Chinese assertion that it is only a weather balloon and not spy balloon this last 12 hours?", ">\n\nTIKTOK is more scary than the balloon. Tiktok is stored in your personal phones.", ">\n\ndon't be fooled. It's not the privacy issue that's concerning about tiktok. Rather, it's a widespread social media platform that can be weaponized by Xi himself. Its claim to fame is a highly selective profiling algorithm that slices & dices its user base & constantly feeds them specific content. If the CCP wanted they could foment more unrest & division in the US public by promoting alt right conspiratorial clips. Instead of dancey dances of dogs a certain segment would be seeing a constant barrage of angry Karens and Chads brandishing their AR15's and complaining about the Libs & Biden.", ">\n\nIf they can shoot it down precisely enough to hit a 12-mile long strip of ocean, why can’t they just shoot it down over farming fields in the Midwest? This makes no sense and we clearly are not being told everything", ">\n\nYou don’t know where it’s going to land when it starts falling. It won’t just fall straight down, especially not at that altitude.", ">\n\nExactly. So why were they intending to have it fall in a small ocean strip instead of a random field somewhere? Rural America is not dense at all, so they definitely could have shot it down somewhere over there, they just wanted to gather more information about it first.", ">\n\nOmgomgomgomgomfgomfgomgomgomfg guys guys guys balloon update BALLOON UPDATE", ">\n\nCapture it and see what the device really is.\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from merely a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!! I am not educated this way.\nCapture it, open it up and see what Chinese REALLY were capturing instead of destroying it 100%", ">\n\nJust so we’re aware, popping this thing won’t start World War III, right? I know Fascist News is fearmongering the shit out of this, but I figured I’d ask anyway in case this is one of the extremely few times that they’re actually right.", ">\n\nNah. It's in our airspace. We can do whatever we want. And according to China, it's only a weather balloon anyway.", ">\n\nSpreading monkeyebolacovid666 pox", ">\n\nYea this is so important because we totally dont have billion dollar satellites spying on the US.", ">\n\nWe actually have our own spy balloons.", ">\n\nAbsolutely. And what do you think would happen if ours - oops - got caught up in some jet stream and “accidentally “ floated over China?", ">\n\nOur own government spying on us? Totally cool! But China? No that’s BAD!", ">\n\nAgree but that doesn’t answer my question.", ">\n\nWe overreact to everything", ">\n\nManufacturing consent machine goes brrrrrr.", ">\n\nThe balloon is just a misdirection tactic. The real threat we didn't discover yet. removes tinfoil hat", ">\n\nBalloon is shot down and coast guard goes to examine it at sea. Cthulhu rips away remnants of the balloon and swallows the ships entirely. Cthulhu speeds towards land... we are all doomed. It was meth for Cthulhu he ordered that we just gave him. The Chinese played us perfectly", ">\n\nCan someone explain to me - Did the chinese not think the US would notice? Or were they just like \"heck it, we already got the footage\"?", ">\n\nChina is like a little kid saying “can’t touch me can’t touch me!”", ">\n\nSo after a Spy balloon with unknown capabilities has fully traversed the country they're going to shoot it down over the ocean. Why bother now.", ">\n\nSo…. After they get everything they want?", ">\n\nChina gets far more from Tiktok than they do from this", ">\n\nDid someone finally tell Joe about this?", ">\n\nThe US knew about the balloon pretty much immediately, but the military advised against blowing it up over land due to a massive potential range for debris. \nSome people make decisions based on information rather than emotion.", ">\n\nGet out of here with your rational thinking. There are people needing to lash out at Biden and insist they can shoot down something that is higher than an airplane.", ">\n\nWhy not? Once it's over the sea, it's already transmitted all of the useful info it gathered.", ">\n\nIt just got shot where’s the video??", ">\n\nThat’s great thanks. Now to recovery mode!!", ">\n\nGenuinely curious. Where are we going to draw the line between spy balloons and spy satellites? How do we respond when they send a missile to down one of ours?", ">\n\nTo be a smartass: The Karman Line.\nSeriously though, pretty much every nation has accepted that space is open, you can't not fly over countries when in orbit around a spinning ball. Plus, space debris is a serious issue if you want to send things or people to space.", ">\n\nWow. Congrats on shooting it down after it traversed the entire country.", ">\n\nWHY not capture it instead and see what the content REALLY is??\nCAN'T fucking believe people are accepting of 'Truth' only from a 'suspicion,' and not of physical evidence!!", ">\n\nHow do you capture it?", ">\n\nBy letting the air out of it... Maybe with a bullet or something similar. They might need to use a plane or something to get up that high though.", ">\n\nif they shot it it would have just popped from the pressure differential and free fell to terminal velocity.", ">\n\ntime to call in the Kingsman", ">\n\nNow China would fly the balloon towards Pacific.", ">\n\nThere are jets Circling it so…I think they’ve made that decision.\nSource: everybody I know who is in Tabor City to Murrel’s Inlet on Facebook", ">\n\nIt's already been shot down", ">\n\nYep. I’m enjoying all the videos I’m now seeing if people arguing about how long it’s going to take to hit the ocean.", ">\n\nJust catch it and dissect it.", ">\n\nYea, cause the real risk of collateral damage of downing it over Montana was vast.", ">\n\nAnybody see any ships going out to recover the wreckage? I'm just curious whether or not the military wants to look at the tech or not..", ">\n\nI wonder whether it would be better to shoot it down while it’s in our 12 mile territory?", ">\n\nSome Coastguardsman off the Carolina coastline picking up the instruments from the deflated balloon\n\"Wait is that just a fucking camcorder duct taped to a satellite dish??\"", ">\n\nMy guess is that it’s not technically a big deal but the publicity means that the govt is worried about revealing recovery tactics and technology. So it’s less about the balloon than it is not revealing their hand.", ">\n\nThe USA learned more about China, than China learnt about the USA with that balloon.", ">\n\nIt's a fucking balloon. Next time this shit shows up on my feed it better be because they turned it into a goddamn horse and road it straight to a republican nomination.", ">\n\nWatch and learn, canada", ">\n\nHow much weaker can Biden look? Let’s wait until it traverses the entire country and have everyone and their grandma question why.", ">\n\nMilitary advisers counseled that it should not be shot down while over the ground due to infrastructure and safety concerns.\nThat aside there is likely some value in recovering somewhat intact pieces of the thing to evaluate its capabilities.", ">\n\nAfter letting a spy balloon wander over the entire continent for several days the US military has finally been allowed to do what was previously deemed \"difficult\" and shot it down.", ">\n\nAgain it was the pentagon’s advice to not shoot it until it was no longer over land.\nYou may not agree with it, but neither of us are privy to the information the military possessed that led to this recommendation. If they believed lives or important state secrets were at risk I feel confident it would have been handled differently.", ">\n\nBiden has to get permission from Winnie the Pooh first.", ">\n\nIf china launches ww3 .. thats basically saying they're dumb enough to launch nukes and no one wins.. no point in that lol", ">\n\nMassive overreaction. Its a balloon. Better spying tech exists and is already always being used", ">\n\nWhy shoot it down at all? Seems petty.", ">\n\nI think they should to shut everyone up, and honestly, to send a message. Don’t freak people out over here.", ">\n\nBut if they shoot it down and it turns out it was just a weather balloon that got blown off course there would be no reason to be paranoid and outraged... Can't have that.", ">\n\nIt has the ability to control where it goes.", ">\n\nDo it live on YouTube, they can lower the deficit that way.", ">\n\nWhich is truly nonsense because you know you wouldn't want it to actually have done anything with all of the data it just collected on the United States. Let's shoot down the finger quotes. Chinese spy satellite finger quotes over the Atlantic after it's done all the shit it needs to do moving from the Pacific eastward." ]

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[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories...." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret.", ">\n\nThat's part of the act Jimbo. To the point of some contestant fabricating their sad stories on the spot, because it ups your chances of being taken to the next round" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret.", ">\n\nThat's part of the act Jimbo. To the point of some contestant fabricating their sad stories on the spot, because it ups your chances of being taken to the next round", ">\n\nThe producers push them to have stories." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret.", ">\n\nThat's part of the act Jimbo. To the point of some contestant fabricating their sad stories on the spot, because it ups your chances of being taken to the next round", ">\n\nThe producers push them to have stories.", ">\n\nHonestly I really want a contestant to take the piss, \nA contestant to say a made up sob story even tho they have been told not to" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret.", ">\n\nThat's part of the act Jimbo. To the point of some contestant fabricating their sad stories on the spot, because it ups your chances of being taken to the next round", ">\n\nThe producers push them to have stories.", ">\n\nHonestly I really want a contestant to take the piss, \nA contestant to say a made up sob story even tho they have been told not to", ">\n\nI agree with your post to some extent, but talent shows related to literature should allow sob stories as long as they are relevant to their prompts and not used to blackmail examiners." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret.", ">\n\nThat's part of the act Jimbo. To the point of some contestant fabricating their sad stories on the spot, because it ups your chances of being taken to the next round", ">\n\nThe producers push them to have stories.", ">\n\nHonestly I really want a contestant to take the piss, \nA contestant to say a made up sob story even tho they have been told not to", ">\n\nI agree with your post to some extent, but talent shows related to literature should allow sob stories as long as they are relevant to their prompts and not used to blackmail examiners.", ">\n\nthey are convincing viewers, not judges" ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret.", ">\n\nThat's part of the act Jimbo. To the point of some contestant fabricating their sad stories on the spot, because it ups your chances of being taken to the next round", ">\n\nThe producers push them to have stories.", ">\n\nHonestly I really want a contestant to take the piss, \nA contestant to say a made up sob story even tho they have been told not to", ">\n\nI agree with your post to some extent, but talent shows related to literature should allow sob stories as long as they are relevant to their prompts and not used to blackmail examiners.", ">\n\nthey are convincing viewers, not judges", ">\n\nPeople have already addressed it's done on purpose for ratings, but the other truth is that honestly, there's not a lot of things you can do these days that warrant oos and ahhs anymore. In the medieval times up until the 1950's or so you could get on stage and get cheers for doing handstand pushups, or breathing fire or cutting an assistant in half. Now it's old hat and without the sob stories you're left with parlor tricks that can't compare to the marvel movies you see, a group of singers and dance routines that, if you're a dancer, are pretty lackluster, but large scale." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret.", ">\n\nThat's part of the act Jimbo. To the point of some contestant fabricating their sad stories on the spot, because it ups your chances of being taken to the next round", ">\n\nThe producers push them to have stories.", ">\n\nHonestly I really want a contestant to take the piss, \nA contestant to say a made up sob story even tho they have been told not to", ">\n\nI agree with your post to some extent, but talent shows related to literature should allow sob stories as long as they are relevant to their prompts and not used to blackmail examiners.", ">\n\nthey are convincing viewers, not judges", ">\n\nPeople have already addressed it's done on purpose for ratings, but the other truth is that honestly, there's not a lot of things you can do these days that warrant oos and ahhs anymore. In the medieval times up until the 1950's or so you could get on stage and get cheers for doing handstand pushups, or breathing fire or cutting an assistant in half. Now it's old hat and without the sob stories you're left with parlor tricks that can't compare to the marvel movies you see, a group of singers and dance routines that, if you're a dancer, are pretty lackluster, but large scale.", ">\n\nI hate trauma dumping and all that emotional back story stuff but I think most of the time it’s the producers pushing that not the contestant. A long, long time ago my cousin participated in one of those shows and they told her point blank talent wise she would go one but they need her to bring some sort of interesting backstory/struggle/family drama. She said no and didn’t go on in the process as they where quite pushy about it." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret.", ">\n\nThat's part of the act Jimbo. To the point of some contestant fabricating their sad stories on the spot, because it ups your chances of being taken to the next round", ">\n\nThe producers push them to have stories.", ">\n\nHonestly I really want a contestant to take the piss, \nA contestant to say a made up sob story even tho they have been told not to", ">\n\nI agree with your post to some extent, but talent shows related to literature should allow sob stories as long as they are relevant to their prompts and not used to blackmail examiners.", ">\n\nthey are convincing viewers, not judges", ">\n\nPeople have already addressed it's done on purpose for ratings, but the other truth is that honestly, there's not a lot of things you can do these days that warrant oos and ahhs anymore. In the medieval times up until the 1950's or so you could get on stage and get cheers for doing handstand pushups, or breathing fire or cutting an assistant in half. Now it's old hat and without the sob stories you're left with parlor tricks that can't compare to the marvel movies you see, a group of singers and dance routines that, if you're a dancer, are pretty lackluster, but large scale.", ">\n\nI hate trauma dumping and all that emotional back story stuff but I think most of the time it’s the producers pushing that not the contestant. A long, long time ago my cousin participated in one of those shows and they told her point blank talent wise she would go one but they need her to bring some sort of interesting backstory/struggle/family drama. She said no and didn’t go on in the process as they where quite pushy about it.", ">\n\nAnother lasting ding from the Writer's strike years ago.\nWhen you have contestants that come with their own story and judges reacting to them and their performance off the cuff, you don't have to pay writers." ]

[ "\"I was born at a very young age\"\n*Golden buzzer*", ">\n\n\"It was so traumatizing, that I couldn't speak or walk for two years\"", ">\n\nI was born in a coffee can under a bridge...?", ">\n\nYes this exactly", ">\n\nThe show picks them because of these stories. They are being exploited for the emotional sob stories. That’s what keeps the plebs coming back to watch. It’s not to see the billionth talented singer.", ">\n\nOP definitely watches WWE and thinks it isn't scripted.", ">\n\nWWE wrestlers are my favourite natural athletes", ">\n\nThere's so many of them now that it's practically a competition in itself to see who has the saddest sob story", ">\n\nWait you actually think it's real?\nThe producers of the show get them to say that stuff, it's not for the judges, it's for you to find the show more entertaining. It's all fake, they basically get told what to do and what to say.\nIf you're in the US it's ever worse, it can all be fake and make believe.", ">\n\nThey are told what to sing as well. Even if they tell the audience otherwise.", ">\n\nThe whole thing is a waste of time anyway, it's for entertainment purposes only. Audiences would rather have an amazing sob story and medoirce talent than normalish people with amazing talent. Its the perfect venue to root for the underdog, hence why it's so prevalent", ">\n\nIt's actually the producers that look for the sad stories as they feel it makes better television. If the contestant is not talented then no amount of sad story is gonna win them a place in the next round.", ">\n\nThey were picked specifically for those sob stories.", ">\n\nMy friend was a finalist on the Voice a couple years ago and they totally milked the crap outta their mom’s death in their application", ">\n\nI’ve seen a guy talk about how hard the year has been and his stacking bills he has on the cooking competition show “Chopped” only to lose to the guy who wants to use the money for a vacation, so I dont think it sways judges too heavily", ">\n\nThe producers seek them out and encourage them to tell those stories. It's part of the show.", ">\n\nThe contestants aren't doing this independently in order to sway judges. These are TV shows, that stuff is encouraged by producers in order to add drama for the audience. It's contrived and intentional by those running the show.", ">\n\nExactly", ">\n\nI agree. I'm sick of hearing the \"my (insert loved one) died and I'm doing this to honor their memory\" stories.", ">\n\nHell yes to this. I hate hearing the sob story on American Idol or The Voice every season. Emotional manipulation shouldn't be allowed.", ">\n\nAlso can they cut it with the dramatic music in reality shows like Hell's kitchen?", ">\n\nThe emotional drama unfortunately drives views. There are definitely people who watch to see what the performers can do, but all of those shows inject drama because it keeps everyone else engaged. That’s also why you have the same tropes of terrible performances for the sake of comedy across all of these shows. They know who makes up the core of their audience, and they know how to keep them engaged.", ">\n\nAmerican Idol and So You Think You can Dance were the worst.", ">\n\nProducers make them do this lol. It’s part of the show", ">\n\nI’m pretty sure in order to even be considered for a talent show you need some sob background story.", ">\n\nPretty sure the show is encouraging them to have bullshit backstories. I mean they may be real, but besides the sympathy vote, they want to make people into an identifiable character one way or another. It’s like when they have bullshit drama on wrestling. They could just have big dudes “fighting” each other, but no, they want you to know something about these people and feel like you have a reason to root for certain people or hate others.", ">\n\nEveryone has a sob story.", ">\n\nAre you under the impression they are forcing the show to share the stories?", ">\n\nAgree. I don’t care about a sob story. I want to see the talent. If the sob story contestant has the best talent, they should be able to win off that alone, I don’t want to hear the rest. Everyone on the planet has to overcome obstacles. If I’m watching a talent show, I want to see the talent, and want to see the most talented person win off of talent alone.", ">\n\nHonestly I think that part is scripted to happen because it's not about the judges but the people watching the show. Most \"reality\" tv shows are pre-scripted for certain things to happen and they have people working towards guiding things in the right directions.", ">\n\nif a talent show judge had a dollar for every “my mom died and i’m doing this for her because i know she’s watching over me every day”, they’d be able to repay the national debt", ">\n\n“I was born completely naked in front of multiple adults… it was so traumatizing that I didn’t speak for months”", ">\n\nThis is why I stopped watching AGT", ">\n\nMy sister's friend's uncle died of cancer, and their last dying wish was for me to use my voice to become rich and famous.", ">\n\nI like to edit these down to just the performances. I rarely care about their backstory and I never care what the judges think lol", ">\n\nA lot of shows like that wont even consider you as a candidate if you dont have a sob story...\nTalent shows arent charity shows, they're TALENT shows.", ">\n\nreality shows are completely staged. All of them.", ">\n\nIt’s why I stopped watching America’s Got Talent. There were some really cool acts that went on the show but the judges always gave preference to some mediocre singer with a sob story. There are plenty of singing shows, let them go there. Leave AGT for acts that are interesting and unique, that don’t have an outlet elsewhere.", ">\n\nYes.. I can't stand the singing in AGT. \nI quite enjoyed their AGT Extreme season because there was no singing.", ">\n\nI must have given up before they did that because I didn’t even know that was a thing.", ">\n\nIt was only one season I think, 2021. It was outdoor, extreme sport stuff. \nA guy whose stage name is Wheelz was on it and now he's a Hot Wheel so that's neat.\nThere were also a couple hilariously stupid acts. Worth a YouTube search to see a few of the acts.", ">\n\nIt’s not for the judges it’s for the audience. All of that shit is prescreened, not much reality in reality tv.", ">\n\nThis is just band talent shows. If you have a talent with sharing with the world just start doing it or don't bother why does everyone have to get on TV or the internet to feel special?", ">\n\nYou...you realize that these are shows right? People have come off talking about it from all angles, basically some people with talent are told to fake back stories, some people are made to look worse, etc. It's not an actual competition, there's a reason like 3 winners of these things have ever made something of it.", ">\n\nPeople who make posts here wanting to ban something they personally dislike should be banned.", ">\n\nI quit watching those shows because of this. If nothing else, they have the “I was bullied” to fall back on.", ">\n\nmy cat meant the world to me. he’s the one that taught me to sing. But a robber came and stole him and killed my family and burned my house and chopped off my left pinky finger. I didn’t know what to do. So I came to the show to sing and continue the legacy of my cat. I know it’s what Mr. Meow would have wanted. Now he’s watching me from kitcat heaven and I know he is real dang proud", ">\n\nBut what about all the stuttering army carnies?", ">\n\nVery cool, unpopular opinion!", ">\n\nIMO people with sad pasts tend to be more talented. Or at least they fostered their talent better. \nBut I do agree with you, sob points should not be counted.", ">\n\nIt’s cringey", ">\n\nI'm not a fan of \"banning\" much of anything, but people do need to seriously stop watching so much garbage entertainment. It is rotting your brain and eroding society.", ">\n\nOmg how did that B word get by the mod lol", ">\n\nBan it\nOutlaw it\nFine it\nThat's all people want to do with shit they don't like.", ">\n\nSeeeeriously, I fuckin hate it and my wife and I always make jokes about it. tears up “I was born with all my digits…” buzz YOU WIN", ">\n\nIsn't it a requirement for talent show contestants to cry on cue?", ">\n\nThat's 50% of Instagram.", ">\n\nI wont watch Talent shows now as I dont want to watch bullshit sob stories....", ">\n\nKeep in mind that most of what you see on talent shows is heavily scripted and edited. Those contestants who share their emotional stories are most likely asked by the producers of the show for the latter's own content.\nHere's another unpopular opinion: talent shows should be banned because of what some of the \"contestants\" have to go through", ">\n\nHuh ?", ">\n\nWell, for example, remember Zoe Alexander? The woman on Britan's X-Factor who screamed at the judges and attacked the camera operator? She shared her own story", ">\n\nThanks I have the video playing now !", ">\n\nI seriously hate the background info section of contestants part of the show.\nI really couldn't care less, just show me what you can do and let's judge you off of your merits", ">\n\nHahaha, you can't win without something sad in your back story", ">\n\nThey should be but they won’t because audiences love to see these stories (usually in isolation and not every single contestant). \nEvery now and then it’s cool to see a story of someone overcoming adversity but when people are trying to win a competition they know this formula works so then you just have everyone trying to weave the worst thing that’s ever happened to them into their story.", ">\n\nIts part of why some people end up famous in general. So why should it be banned?", ">\n\nThat's what the show producers want. I'm sure they go looking for story first and then be like hey by the way any talents?", ">\n\nYou're definitely not talking about broadcast talent shows are you? That shit is the bread and butter and scripted for millions. Have you done any research on any reality talent shows? I wouldn't call this an unpopular opinion as I would a barely held secret.", ">\n\nThat's part of the act Jimbo. To the point of some contestant fabricating their sad stories on the spot, because it ups your chances of being taken to the next round", ">\n\nThe producers push them to have stories.", ">\n\nHonestly I really want a contestant to take the piss, \nA contestant to say a made up sob story even tho they have been told not to", ">\n\nI agree with your post to some extent, but talent shows related to literature should allow sob stories as long as they are relevant to their prompts and not used to blackmail examiners.", ">\n\nthey are convincing viewers, not judges", ">\n\nPeople have already addressed it's done on purpose for ratings, but the other truth is that honestly, there's not a lot of things you can do these days that warrant oos and ahhs anymore. In the medieval times up until the 1950's or so you could get on stage and get cheers for doing handstand pushups, or breathing fire or cutting an assistant in half. Now it's old hat and without the sob stories you're left with parlor tricks that can't compare to the marvel movies you see, a group of singers and dance routines that, if you're a dancer, are pretty lackluster, but large scale.", ">\n\nI hate trauma dumping and all that emotional back story stuff but I think most of the time it’s the producers pushing that not the contestant. A long, long time ago my cousin participated in one of those shows and they told her point blank talent wise she would go one but they need her to bring some sort of interesting backstory/struggle/family drama. She said no and didn’t go on in the process as they where quite pushy about it.", ">\n\nAnother lasting ding from the Writer's strike years ago.\nWhen you have contestants that come with their own story and judges reacting to them and their performance off the cuff, you don't have to pay writers.", ">\n\nAnd these days normal people have started to mimic this. Think they need backstories and feel the need to share with everyone they meet." ]