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[ "I wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nSame", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nBi Curious?", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nthat's a classic!", ">\n\nI wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nI have it on good authority that it said \"What backpack? That's not even mine. It was here when I got here...\"", ">\n\n“I was just holding on to it for friend…”", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work." ]

[ "I wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nSame", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nBi Curious?", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nthat's a classic!", ">\n\nI wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nI have it on good authority that it said \"What backpack? That's not even mine. It was here when I got here...\"", ">\n\n“I was just holding on to it for friend…”", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!" ]

[ "I wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nSame", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nBi Curious?", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nthat's a classic!", ">\n\nI wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nI have it on good authority that it said \"What backpack? That's not even mine. It was here when I got here...\"", ">\n\n“I was just holding on to it for friend…”", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth" ]

[ "I wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nSame", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nBi Curious?", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nthat's a classic!", ">\n\nI wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nI have it on good authority that it said \"What backpack? That's not even mine. It was here when I got here...\"", ">\n\n“I was just holding on to it for friend…”", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nThis headline reads like “Officers’ Union President” is the statement by the pigeon." ]

[ "I wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nSame", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nBi Curious?", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nthat's a classic!", ">\n\nI wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nI have it on good authority that it said \"What backpack? That's not even mine. It was here when I got here...\"", ">\n\n“I was just holding on to it for friend…”", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nThis headline reads like “Officers’ Union President” is the statement by the pigeon.", ">\n\nSays he got it from a coked up bear" ]

[ "I wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nSame", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nBi Curious?", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nthat's a classic!", ">\n\nI wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nI have it on good authority that it said \"What backpack? That's not even mine. It was here when I got here...\"", ">\n\n“I was just holding on to it for friend…”", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nThis headline reads like “Officers’ Union President” is the statement by the pigeon.", ">\n\nSays he got it from a coked up bear", ">\n\nHey, it was just trying to make a living." ]

[ "I wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nSame", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nBi Curious?", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nthat's a classic!", ">\n\nI wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nI have it on good authority that it said \"What backpack? That's not even mine. It was here when I got here...\"", ">\n\n“I was just holding on to it for friend…”", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nThis headline reads like “Officers’ Union President” is the statement by the pigeon.", ">\n\nSays he got it from a coked up bear", ">\n\nHey, it was just trying to make a living.", ">\n\nNext they'll be wearing Adidas backpacks." ]

[ "I wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nSame", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nBi Curious?", ">\n\nI'm upset that there was no picture of the tiny backpack with or without the pigeon wearing it.", ">\n\nthat's a classic!", ">\n\nI wonder which officer it belongs to.", ">\n\nHe’s a pidgeon, but he ain’t no stool pigeon.", ">\n\nThe pigeon reportedly said \"It's coo! It's coo!\"", ">\n\nI have it on good authority that it said \"What backpack? That's not even mine. It was here when I got here...\"", ">\n\n“I was just holding on to it for friend…”", ">\n\nPigeons are addicted to meth now?", ">\n\nOoohh Caanadaaa", ">\n\nWhat did we do?", ">\n\nGive birds methamphetamine, apparently.", ">\n\nBirds are just government robots! Looks like they caught one of their own", ">\n\n\"Say my name.\"\n\"Heisenbird,\"\n\"You're caw-damn right.\"", ">\n\n\"HE CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWING WITH THIS!\"", ">\n\n“I AM THE ONE WHO BAWKS!”", ">\n\n“THIS. . . Isn’t bird seed”\n💥", ">\n\nAm I the only one who watched the video just to see if there would be a picture of a pigeon wearing a backpack?", ">\n\nYou mean it isn’t!?", ">\n\nNope, just boring backpackless pigeons 😕", ">\n\nftn", ">\n\nIn b4 someone chimes in with 'methenger pigeon' for points.", ">\n\nMike Tyson has entered the chat", ">\n\nHe would since he famously loves pigeons", ">\n\nNow all the pigeons are going to be getting their backpacks searched. And that's profiling.", ">\n\nCat walks in with a pair of boots and nobody bats an eye, pigeon tries to accessorize a bit and he ends up in a cell.", ">\n\n\"One last job and I'll retire from my life of crime.\"", ">\n\nAnother pigeon stooled on him. They're called \"feathered rats\" for a reason.", ">\n\nSoooooo, homing pigeons fly back to their home. That's the logic anyway. Somebody smuggled a bird OUT of prison (jailbird), equipped with adorable backpack, recidivated. Is that what happened here?", ">\n\nWell I don't think the pigeon had the backpack on when it left but yeah", ">\n\n\"They lied about what it was.... I was just their pigeon!\"", ">\n\nWere Ricky, Julian and Bubbles involved?", ">\n\nshit hawks", ">\n\nExcerpt from article:\n\"The introduction of drugs into federal prisons is becoming a huge crisis the whole goal of prisons is to rehabilitate and release people into society as law-abiding citizens\"\nThey would like us to believe this, but actions speak louder than words. If you want rehabilitated prisoners, you need to treat them very differently than you currently do. \nAt this point, all prison seem to do is breed a class of repeat offenders.", ">\n\nBetter than the crow with the .38 found at my prison.", ">\n\nWhat's the air-speed velocity of a meth laden pigeon?", ">\n\nCanadian or American?", ">\n\nPigeons work cheaper than the prison guards.", ">\n\nBreaking Bird", ">\n\nThe way prisoner behavior is pigeonholed makes everyone in prison seem bad. Sighhh…the prison system is going to the birds!", ">\n\nWestern Union telegram at your service", ">\n\nAnd the stool pigeon had a backpack full of shit.", ">\n\nr/brandnewsentence", ">\n\nWould that qualify for r/animalswithjobs ?", ">\n\nSometimes the old ways are best.", ">\n\nAnother product of our poorly funded school systems.", ">\n\nUnions hate competition.", ">\n\nMethanger pigeon", ">\n\nGonna have to keep the bird cooped up.", ">\n\nsmacks it with newspaper Very bad pidgey!", ">\n\nCmmo, he got his prison buddies on the cellar roofs", ">\n\nThat's not how carrier pigeons work.", ">\n\nLOCK IT UP! LOCK IT UP!", ">\n\nSo that's where I left my meth", ">\n\nThis headline reads like “Officers’ Union President” is the statement by the pigeon.", ">\n\nSays he got it from a coked up bear", ">\n\nHey, it was just trying to make a living.", ">\n\nNext they'll be wearing Adidas backpacks.", ">\n\nBi Curious?" ]

[]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all..." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North.", ">\n\nHow about ending corporal punishment altogether?" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North.", ">\n\nHow about ending corporal punishment altogether?", ">\n\nWhat? This was allowed… JFC.. hitting kids has never worked… no wonder OK is what it is…" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North.", ">\n\nHow about ending corporal punishment altogether?", ">\n\nWhat? This was allowed… JFC.. hitting kids has never worked… no wonder OK is what it is…", ">\n\nGood, because living in OK is punishment enough" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North.", ">\n\nHow about ending corporal punishment altogether?", ">\n\nWhat? This was allowed… JFC.. hitting kids has never worked… no wonder OK is what it is…", ">\n\nGood, because living in OK is punishment enough", ">\n\nThis is just for kids with disabilities, it's ok to beat otherwise healthy children until they are emotionally or developmentally disabled." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North.", ">\n\nHow about ending corporal punishment altogether?", ">\n\nWhat? This was allowed… JFC.. hitting kids has never worked… no wonder OK is what it is…", ">\n\nGood, because living in OK is punishment enough", ">\n\nThis is just for kids with disabilities, it's ok to beat otherwise healthy children until they are emotionally or developmentally disabled.", ">\n\nShocked a Republican did this. Republicans hate the neurodiverse" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North.", ">\n\nHow about ending corporal punishment altogether?", ">\n\nWhat? This was allowed… JFC.. hitting kids has never worked… no wonder OK is what it is…", ">\n\nGood, because living in OK is punishment enough", ">\n\nThis is just for kids with disabilities, it's ok to beat otherwise healthy children until they are emotionally or developmentally disabled.", ">\n\nShocked a Republican did this. Republicans hate the neurodiverse", ">\n\nBut still okay for everyone without disabilities? . . ." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North.", ">\n\nHow about ending corporal punishment altogether?", ">\n\nWhat? This was allowed… JFC.. hitting kids has never worked… no wonder OK is what it is…", ">\n\nGood, because living in OK is punishment enough", ">\n\nThis is just for kids with disabilities, it's ok to beat otherwise healthy children until they are emotionally or developmentally disabled.", ">\n\nShocked a Republican did this. Republicans hate the neurodiverse", ">\n\nBut still okay for everyone without disabilities? . . .", ">\n\nI wonder what genius came up with doing that in the first place!" ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North.", ">\n\nHow about ending corporal punishment altogether?", ">\n\nWhat? This was allowed… JFC.. hitting kids has never worked… no wonder OK is what it is…", ">\n\nGood, because living in OK is punishment enough", ">\n\nThis is just for kids with disabilities, it's ok to beat otherwise healthy children until they are emotionally or developmentally disabled.", ">\n\nShocked a Republican did this. Republicans hate the neurodiverse", ">\n\nBut still okay for everyone without disabilities? . . .", ">\n\nI wonder what genius came up with doing that in the first place!", ">\n\nOh good. They only beat the non disabled children." ]

[ "Jesus, were people still doing that?!", ">\n\nThey have been. They are, and they're doing it in the name of Jesus. \nPreachers have always liked repeating the part of the bible that says spare the rod and spoil the child.", ">\n\nThat's Solomon. And they sort of skip the part about what the child grew up to be.", ">\n\nThey follow it up with Proverbs 22:6 Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it.", ">\n\nTranslation: if you hit a kid who is smaller and weaker than you when they do something you don't like that teaches them to use violence against others who are smaller and weaker than they are.", ">\n\nYou have all the people who like to tell you \"I was beaten for doing the wrong thing as a child and I turned out just fine\" there ready to support corporal punishment.", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I turned out [to be someone who thinks beating children is fine]", ">\n\nI was beaten as a child and I prefer to just talk to my kid about it. There are a few things that warrant physical reactions such as a swat on the butt, but not many.", ">\n\nNope", ">\n\nMy 10 year old son decided he's angry so he pushes his mom to the ground, I'm not telling him to go to his room.\nToddler gets mad and breaks something, send them to their room and shrug it off.\nThere's indeed things that do deserve physical intervention.", ">\n\nWhy the fuck was this a thing?", ">\n\nMurica", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until morale improves\"", ">\n\n\"The beatings will continue until god fixes what is wrong with you\"", ">\n\n“And the beatings will continue until god says you are fixed.”", ">\n\n\"Hi, God here, Oklahoma I send those tornadoes because I am pissed you beat children, stop that shit\"", ">\n\nMark this date on your calendars! A republican doing something that ISN'T wildly fucked up and evil?! Will wonders never cease! This hasn't happened since the 1970s", ">\n\nIt's still insufficient. Corporal punishment should be federally illegal.", ">\n\nFederal Government lacks the authority to do so. Best it could do is tie it to Federal funding.", ">\n\nWhen you say \"lacks authority\" you mean the Department of Education, congress/senate can still pass a law making it illegal, right?", ">\n\nCongress lacks the authority. Congress is not sovereign. Its powers are significantly limited by the Constitution.", ">\n\nThey could withhold federal funding for any school that uses corporal punishment.", ">\n\nThe supreme court would likely rule it unconstitutional.", ">\n\nHow about ending it entirely?", ">\n\nAs a kid I'd rather the principal whip my ass than my dad. Both happened, only one of them held me when I cried.", ">\n\nThat's not something any child should have to go through. It's proven that it just messes kids up.", ">\n\nThey’re still hitting kids?", ">\n\nIt's still legal in many states, although most schools have parents sign a permission slip.", ">\n\nI'm a parent and the idea is just so disgusting. Signing a permission slip to abuse a kid. Ugh.\nAll you do when you hit a child is teach them to hit someone else smaller and weaker.", ">\n\nIt's teaching them that violence is the go-to solution when you're angry and frustrated. \nIt really doesn't matter how often they're told violence isn't the solution when they grow up with violence. They're not learning problem solving. They're learning retaliation.", ">\n\nThis country is a cesspool and I always need more amo to convince people that Christianity is bad. So thank you kindly", ">\n\nJesus taught many good things. He was killed by conservative zealots who cared more for power than people.", ">\n\nYeah Jesus if he existed was probably cool. His fanclub? Got roe overturned this year and is largely unconcerned with things like global warming. They are the earth's villains imo", ">\n\nI lived in Arkansas from 6-7th grade and had corporal punishment. I heard a special needs girl get paddled in the hall and listened to her yell and scream. Really fucked up. The thing is that parents can just send a letter saying no paddling. So those special needs parents basically ok’d it.", ">\n\nSometimes the parents themselves struggle with the same issues. Or things like Fetal Alcohol Syndrome where they were caused by having dysfunctional parents. My Dad's a developmental pediatrician and he has tons of patients raised by grandparents, in foster care, or in other really messed up settings. There's a real vicious cycle aspect.", ">\n\nYou shouldn't have to end something like that in a civilized world because it would've never happened in the first place.", ">\n\nYeah, but the death penalty still exists in the good ole US of A, so.", ">\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance, I guess. It's disgusting. Regardless of what was done, these are still just children being beat by near strangers out of malice, and state sanctioned murder won't bring back any victims.", ">\n\n\nSome people just like legal vengeance\n\nIt's a very natural impulse.\nRemember at all times, Hammurabi's code is one of the first sets of codified laws ever written, and it's justice \"an eye for an eye\" was considered amazing for the time because it meant that punishment did not exceed the crime. We like the idea of getting even, that's a very natural impulse, and all of us have at some point wished to follow it.\nIt took a long time (about 2000+ years and counting) to come to the mindset that some punishments are too extreme for any crime.", ">\n\nAfter decades of careful consideration, Republicans decide that physically abusing disabled children is bad.", ">\n\nmeanwhile, everyone else in the 21st century:", ">\n\nSo they’re still beating the kids with disabilities, then? Right?", ">\n\nAny person or group still enacting corporal punishment are literally thinking ass-backwards.", ">\n\nIf you hit someone who is defenseless, you are a bully. It also teaches children that violence is ok.", ">\n\nEnd corporal punishment in its entirety and we'll talk.", ">\n\n\"This law only helps some people so I don't want to talk about it even though obviously Oklahoma can't make federal laws.\"\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\n\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \nTalk about \"perfect is the enemy of good.\" The 80/20 rule is probably in play, too, so it's probably going to be a long time before you start talking.", ">\n\n\nend corporal punishment in its entirety.\nThat's literally what this bill is proposing for its jurisdiction, which is the state of Oklahoma. \n\nIt's not. It's only ending it for special needs students. Though the sponsor says ending it entirely is not a bad idea.", ">\n\nOklahoma, you're fucking disgusting", ">\n\nTake away the \"with disabilities\" and you've got the right idea.", ">\n\nIn schools it might hold. Can't enforce it in private.", ">\n\nIt's generally called assault this side of the pond, doesn't matter disability or not, it would get you reported to the cops and you would lose your job", ">\n\nStaff can't just beat the kids. Gotta call parents for permission, gotta have parent or counselor sit in and film it, it's usually a last ditch effort. I got the paddle as a kid, after 60 write ups.", ">\n\nAs someone who has worked with children with disabilities, you should have had 61 write ups, there should have been followups in talking with you and a concerted effort to reach you without laying a hand on you.\nThere is never a reason to beat children for misbehaving. I now work in a youth shelter with kids 12-18. We have A LOT of training and retraining every year. We will be fired if we touch a kid. There are many ways to reach a kid without beating them. I do it all the time.", ">\n\nThere was no disability, just me being me I suppose. If I liked the teacher I was a fine student, but if I didn't I did whatever I wanted. Usually I ran my mouth, told them to fuck off and leave me alone, whatever. From the age of like 12 I knew I wasn't finishing school and they couldn't hold me back without my parents consent, and the staff didn't want to deal with me another year so they kicked me along with 7 F's and the highest map scores in the school.\nHe did what he thought would work. it didn't, I cried. He hugged me and told me he was sorry, he just wanted better for me in my future. Can't say I lived up to his expectations, but is what it is.\nFor what it's worth, I'm not upset he did it or fault him. He tried, at least.", ">\n\nshould end it for all...", ">\n\nGreat, now do it for everyone. Corporal punishment is physical abuse and shouldn't be used on anyone.", ">\n\nIf a person in authority inflicts pain on a helpless and defenseless adult, it’s called torture and is illegal in every state. But kids — screw the little fuckers, right?", ">\n\nOklahoma owning the libs with conservative family value legislation", ">\n\nOkie, sounds good!", ">\n\nHere's a thought, how about not hitting ANY kids under the guise of \"discipline\"? I never allowed my kids to be hit by anyone, teacher or student, and taught them early about bodily sovereignty and their rights to privacy and not to be touched in certain ways.", ">\n\nThere are going to be a lot of republicans that vote against ending corporal punishment for students with disabilities.", ">\n\nMaybe end corporal punishment for all students?", ">\n\nThe Southern Baptist Church will never allow that to happen.", ">\n\nThat fact that corporal punishment, the physical abuse of another person, is still legal, is disgusting.", ">\n\nBecause they don't have the resources or financial situation to move regions.", ">\n\nThis is completely disgusting. If there is one thing the disabled can do as well as the abled, it's takin a whoopin. /s", ">\n\nThey needed a law for this? Hit my kids and I am suing these fucks. After I make a police report and call child protective services.", ">\n\nThey need your permission first. Otherwise they just suspend the kid.", ">\n\nWow, first time in…five years? That I have agreed with a Republican on something", ">\n\nHey at least they're only 2022 years late!", ">\n\nI had to check the date to make sure I didn't accidently travel back to 1980. Why tf was this still a thing???", ">\n\nBecause Baptists.", ">\n\nSo is it OK for a parent to go in and spank teachers?", ">\n\nI went to a Catholic elementary school in the 60s. The nuns were really proficient in corporal punishment. A favorite of theirs would be to extend your hand palm up and then swat you with the wooden blackboard pointer.", ">\n\nIn other news, they hadn’t already done that!", ">\n\nWait a Republican is doing actually good for once", ">\n\nI hope they end stonings too (just assuming they still have that)", ">\n\nOklahoma! We lead from the rear!", ">\n\nThe party of “protect children everywhere from groomers and abusers aka leftists” sure does like the idea of beating children… this is close to the 10th bill across the country for beating kids at school", ">\n\nThis is just special needs kids. All other kids can be beat\n\nHouse Bill 1028 would not prevent parents from choosing how they’d like to discipline their kids, or ban the punishment for all students, but it would ensure that the physical harm for certain students", ">\n\nOmg, were they ‘spanking’ disabled kids?", ">\n\nUuuuhhhh all corporal punishment for any student is illegal in Canada. Has been nationally since 2004, but basically every province stopped decades ago. In Ontario (where I teach) it’s been banned for fifty one years. If a teacher struck a student they would lose their license in a heartbeat and possibly face criminal charges…\nEdit: apparently some parts of Alberta have been using the strap right up till it was banned in 2004. It surprises me a little, but it’s Alberta, the ‘Murica of the North.", ">\n\nHow about ending corporal punishment altogether?", ">\n\nWhat? This was allowed… JFC.. hitting kids has never worked… no wonder OK is what it is…", ">\n\nGood, because living in OK is punishment enough", ">\n\nThis is just for kids with disabilities, it's ok to beat otherwise healthy children until they are emotionally or developmentally disabled.", ">\n\nShocked a Republican did this. Republicans hate the neurodiverse", ">\n\nBut still okay for everyone without disabilities? . . .", ">\n\nI wonder what genius came up with doing that in the first place!", ">\n\nOh good. They only beat the non disabled children.", ">\n\nOr we could just end corporal punishment." ]