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Yea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅"
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Verifiably false statements my guy
I'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.
Blue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.
Imagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.
You hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think"
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Oh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched! | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars."
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He's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!"
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I blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs."
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They are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you? | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump."
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Really I didn't see it in last year's taxes. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?"
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This is good news. Spread the blue far and wide. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes."
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Northeast of what ? China ? | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide."
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Moved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?"
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I grew up in CT.
The only thing good about that place was the public school system. The roads were overcrowded, the trains were always late and many cars weren't even heated, my parents paid 2x the price for their house in 1998 than what I did a few years ago, property taxes are higher, everything was expensive, and since we lived in the suburbs there wasn't much to do. The weather was also absolutely miserable for the majority of the year
Now I live in NC. I'm not having kids. Everything's much more affordable, much less crowded, and nothing has the feeling that it's slowly crumbling. I live in the city proper so there's a lot much more to do and social life is a lot easier. The weather is a lot nicer. I don't really mind when there's a heatwave. My friends and I just get together in the evening. It's not like we can do anything in the afternoon M-F anyway. I've also never had a power outage in NC, whereas we often got multiple every few years growing up.
IMO this thread is full of copium by people living in blue states. Sure red states have problems, but the pros outweigh the cons in a huge way that's extremely noticeable every day. The idea that these places are secretly shitty and everyone is gonna come flocking back to the northeast (and California honestly) is fictional. You guys would be better off acknowledging the problems you have and working to fix it. California has the right idea by investing in grid battery storage and requiring more housing to be built, but IMO they aren't going far enough to really change the CoL enough. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?",
">\n\nMoved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family."
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I searched and found that North Carolina was much more populous than Connecticut, which is interesting | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?",
">\n\nMoved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family.",
">\n\nI grew up in CT. \nThe only thing good about that place was the public school system. The roads were overcrowded, the trains were always late and many cars weren't even heated, my parents paid 2x the price for their house in 1998 than what I did a few years ago, property taxes are higher, everything was expensive, and since we lived in the suburbs there wasn't much to do. The weather was also absolutely miserable for the majority of the year\nNow I live in NC. I'm not having kids. Everything's much more affordable, much less crowded, and nothing has the feeling that it's slowly crumbling. I live in the city proper so there's a lot much more to do and social life is a lot easier. The weather is a lot nicer. I don't really mind when there's a heatwave. My friends and I just get together in the evening. It's not like we can do anything in the afternoon M-F anyway. I've also never had a power outage in NC, whereas we often got multiple every few years growing up. \nIMO this thread is full of copium by people living in blue states. Sure red states have problems, but the pros outweigh the cons in a huge way that's extremely noticeable every day. The idea that these places are secretly shitty and everyone is gonna come flocking back to the northeast (and California honestly) is fictional. You guys would be better off acknowledging the problems you have and working to fix it. California has the right idea by investing in grid battery storage and requiring more housing to be built, but IMO they aren't going far enough to really change the CoL enough."
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The US needs to reform its immigration system and bring in a lot more refugees in the future. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?",
">\n\nMoved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family.",
">\n\nI grew up in CT. \nThe only thing good about that place was the public school system. The roads were overcrowded, the trains were always late and many cars weren't even heated, my parents paid 2x the price for their house in 1998 than what I did a few years ago, property taxes are higher, everything was expensive, and since we lived in the suburbs there wasn't much to do. The weather was also absolutely miserable for the majority of the year\nNow I live in NC. I'm not having kids. Everything's much more affordable, much less crowded, and nothing has the feeling that it's slowly crumbling. I live in the city proper so there's a lot much more to do and social life is a lot easier. The weather is a lot nicer. I don't really mind when there's a heatwave. My friends and I just get together in the evening. It's not like we can do anything in the afternoon M-F anyway. I've also never had a power outage in NC, whereas we often got multiple every few years growing up. \nIMO this thread is full of copium by people living in blue states. Sure red states have problems, but the pros outweigh the cons in a huge way that's extremely noticeable every day. The idea that these places are secretly shitty and everyone is gonna come flocking back to the northeast (and California honestly) is fictional. You guys would be better off acknowledging the problems you have and working to fix it. California has the right idea by investing in grid battery storage and requiring more housing to be built, but IMO they aren't going far enough to really change the CoL enough.",
">\n\nI searched and found that North Carolina was much more populous than Connecticut, which is interesting"
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"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?",
">\n\nMoved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family.",
">\n\nI grew up in CT. \nThe only thing good about that place was the public school system. The roads were overcrowded, the trains were always late and many cars weren't even heated, my parents paid 2x the price for their house in 1998 than what I did a few years ago, property taxes are higher, everything was expensive, and since we lived in the suburbs there wasn't much to do. The weather was also absolutely miserable for the majority of the year\nNow I live in NC. I'm not having kids. Everything's much more affordable, much less crowded, and nothing has the feeling that it's slowly crumbling. I live in the city proper so there's a lot much more to do and social life is a lot easier. The weather is a lot nicer. I don't really mind when there's a heatwave. My friends and I just get together in the evening. It's not like we can do anything in the afternoon M-F anyway. I've also never had a power outage in NC, whereas we often got multiple every few years growing up. \nIMO this thread is full of copium by people living in blue states. Sure red states have problems, but the pros outweigh the cons in a huge way that's extremely noticeable every day. The idea that these places are secretly shitty and everyone is gonna come flocking back to the northeast (and California honestly) is fictional. You guys would be better off acknowledging the problems you have and working to fix it. California has the right idea by investing in grid battery storage and requiring more housing to be built, but IMO they aren't going far enough to really change the CoL enough.",
">\n\nI searched and found that North Carolina was much more populous than Connecticut, which is interesting",
">\n\nThe US needs to reform its immigration system and bring in a lot more refugees in the future."
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Because this is a problem that will only get worse in the future particularly in Florida. Just look at Detroit and the rust belt and see how changing demographics affected them | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?",
">\n\nMoved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family.",
">\n\nI grew up in CT. \nThe only thing good about that place was the public school system. The roads were overcrowded, the trains were always late and many cars weren't even heated, my parents paid 2x the price for their house in 1998 than what I did a few years ago, property taxes are higher, everything was expensive, and since we lived in the suburbs there wasn't much to do. The weather was also absolutely miserable for the majority of the year\nNow I live in NC. I'm not having kids. Everything's much more affordable, much less crowded, and nothing has the feeling that it's slowly crumbling. I live in the city proper so there's a lot much more to do and social life is a lot easier. The weather is a lot nicer. I don't really mind when there's a heatwave. My friends and I just get together in the evening. It's not like we can do anything in the afternoon M-F anyway. I've also never had a power outage in NC, whereas we often got multiple every few years growing up. \nIMO this thread is full of copium by people living in blue states. Sure red states have problems, but the pros outweigh the cons in a huge way that's extremely noticeable every day. The idea that these places are secretly shitty and everyone is gonna come flocking back to the northeast (and California honestly) is fictional. You guys would be better off acknowledging the problems you have and working to fix it. California has the right idea by investing in grid battery storage and requiring more housing to be built, but IMO they aren't going far enough to really change the CoL enough.",
">\n\nI searched and found that North Carolina was much more populous than Connecticut, which is interesting",
">\n\nThe US needs to reform its immigration system and bring in a lot more refugees in the future.",
">\n\nYes, but how does that apply to this article?"
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Florida’s only population issue is the state is becoming too expensive for entry level laborers. Otherwise a lack a people is definitely not an issue down here as it is in the rust belt. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?",
">\n\nMoved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family.",
">\n\nI grew up in CT. \nThe only thing good about that place was the public school system. The roads were overcrowded, the trains were always late and many cars weren't even heated, my parents paid 2x the price for their house in 1998 than what I did a few years ago, property taxes are higher, everything was expensive, and since we lived in the suburbs there wasn't much to do. The weather was also absolutely miserable for the majority of the year\nNow I live in NC. I'm not having kids. Everything's much more affordable, much less crowded, and nothing has the feeling that it's slowly crumbling. I live in the city proper so there's a lot much more to do and social life is a lot easier. The weather is a lot nicer. I don't really mind when there's a heatwave. My friends and I just get together in the evening. It's not like we can do anything in the afternoon M-F anyway. I've also never had a power outage in NC, whereas we often got multiple every few years growing up. \nIMO this thread is full of copium by people living in blue states. Sure red states have problems, but the pros outweigh the cons in a huge way that's extremely noticeable every day. The idea that these places are secretly shitty and everyone is gonna come flocking back to the northeast (and California honestly) is fictional. You guys would be better off acknowledging the problems you have and working to fix it. California has the right idea by investing in grid battery storage and requiring more housing to be built, but IMO they aren't going far enough to really change the CoL enough.",
">\n\nI searched and found that North Carolina was much more populous than Connecticut, which is interesting",
">\n\nThe US needs to reform its immigration system and bring in a lot more refugees in the future.",
">\n\nYes, but how does that apply to this article?",
">\n\nBecause this is a problem that will only get worse in the future particularly in Florida. Just look at Detroit and the rust belt and see how changing demographics affected them"
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Southwest ain't carrying them away! | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?",
">\n\nMoved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family.",
">\n\nI grew up in CT. \nThe only thing good about that place was the public school system. The roads were overcrowded, the trains were always late and many cars weren't even heated, my parents paid 2x the price for their house in 1998 than what I did a few years ago, property taxes are higher, everything was expensive, and since we lived in the suburbs there wasn't much to do. The weather was also absolutely miserable for the majority of the year\nNow I live in NC. I'm not having kids. Everything's much more affordable, much less crowded, and nothing has the feeling that it's slowly crumbling. I live in the city proper so there's a lot much more to do and social life is a lot easier. The weather is a lot nicer. I don't really mind when there's a heatwave. My friends and I just get together in the evening. It's not like we can do anything in the afternoon M-F anyway. I've also never had a power outage in NC, whereas we often got multiple every few years growing up. \nIMO this thread is full of copium by people living in blue states. Sure red states have problems, but the pros outweigh the cons in a huge way that's extremely noticeable every day. The idea that these places are secretly shitty and everyone is gonna come flocking back to the northeast (and California honestly) is fictional. You guys would be better off acknowledging the problems you have and working to fix it. California has the right idea by investing in grid battery storage and requiring more housing to be built, but IMO they aren't going far enough to really change the CoL enough.",
">\n\nI searched and found that North Carolina was much more populous than Connecticut, which is interesting",
">\n\nThe US needs to reform its immigration system and bring in a lot more refugees in the future.",
">\n\nYes, but how does that apply to this article?",
">\n\nBecause this is a problem that will only get worse in the future particularly in Florida. Just look at Detroit and the rust belt and see how changing demographics affected them",
">\n\nFlorida’s only population issue is the state is becoming too expensive for entry level laborers. Otherwise a lack a people is definitely not an issue down here as it is in the rust belt."
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$500,000 for a 3 bedroom house and 0 residential development since the 2008 crash has lead to a lot of young people packing up and heading out.
We are in a MASSIVE labor shortage up here with no end in sight.
There is no where to live. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?",
">\n\nMoved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family.",
">\n\nI grew up in CT. \nThe only thing good about that place was the public school system. The roads were overcrowded, the trains were always late and many cars weren't even heated, my parents paid 2x the price for their house in 1998 than what I did a few years ago, property taxes are higher, everything was expensive, and since we lived in the suburbs there wasn't much to do. The weather was also absolutely miserable for the majority of the year\nNow I live in NC. I'm not having kids. Everything's much more affordable, much less crowded, and nothing has the feeling that it's slowly crumbling. I live in the city proper so there's a lot much more to do and social life is a lot easier. The weather is a lot nicer. I don't really mind when there's a heatwave. My friends and I just get together in the evening. It's not like we can do anything in the afternoon M-F anyway. I've also never had a power outage in NC, whereas we often got multiple every few years growing up. \nIMO this thread is full of copium by people living in blue states. Sure red states have problems, but the pros outweigh the cons in a huge way that's extremely noticeable every day. The idea that these places are secretly shitty and everyone is gonna come flocking back to the northeast (and California honestly) is fictional. You guys would be better off acknowledging the problems you have and working to fix it. California has the right idea by investing in grid battery storage and requiring more housing to be built, but IMO they aren't going far enough to really change the CoL enough.",
">\n\nI searched and found that North Carolina was much more populous than Connecticut, which is interesting",
">\n\nThe US needs to reform its immigration system and bring in a lot more refugees in the future.",
">\n\nYes, but how does that apply to this article?",
">\n\nBecause this is a problem that will only get worse in the future particularly in Florida. Just look at Detroit and the rust belt and see how changing demographics affected them",
">\n\nFlorida’s only population issue is the state is becoming too expensive for entry level laborers. Otherwise a lack a people is definitely not an issue down here as it is in the rust belt.",
">\n\nSouthwest ain't carrying them away!"
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"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly.",
">\n\nThe flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.\nYour taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.\nEdit:\nSome sauce 💅",
">\n\nYea taxes aren't just some arbitrary fee that goes nowhere despite what many may think",
">\n\nVerifiably false statements my guy\nI'm blue collar in MA, and even though I wasn't educated in MA, I'm smart enough to understand the bigger picture and realize that even if I don't use the MBTA or whatever infrastructure projects are going on in Boston, the increased productivity from them means more tax dollars from that side of the state can help my side of the state with its infrastructure projects.\nBlue states overrepresent the top 1/3 of states for QoL metrics. The bottom 1/3 is disproportionately red states.\nImagine a world in which Mississippi holds the #2 spot behind Massachusetts, or hell, even topples it. Let me tell you, the people who want to see that are not the ones with an (R) next to their name.\nYou hold your views because red states literally do waste your tax dollars.",
">\n\nOh boy, guy is taking over six hours to reply I’m so excited to see what he’s researched!",
">\n\nHe's prob just jerking off to crowder owning libs.",
">\n\nI blame the lost of SALT tax benefits --- property taxes are high in MA, CT and NJ. Would be nice if they were tax deductible per before Trump.",
">\n\nThey are deductible again, through 2026 at least. It was one of the first things Pelosi and Biden did. Where were you?",
">\n\nReally I didn't see it in last year's taxes.",
">\n\nThis is good news. Spread the blue far and wide.",
">\n\nNortheast of what ? China ?",
">\n\nMoved to Georgia. No regrets! And it's getting better every year. Great economy , decent weather and just overall a good place to raise a family.",
">\n\nI grew up in CT. \nThe only thing good about that place was the public school system. The roads were overcrowded, the trains were always late and many cars weren't even heated, my parents paid 2x the price for their house in 1998 than what I did a few years ago, property taxes are higher, everything was expensive, and since we lived in the suburbs there wasn't much to do. The weather was also absolutely miserable for the majority of the year\nNow I live in NC. I'm not having kids. Everything's much more affordable, much less crowded, and nothing has the feeling that it's slowly crumbling. I live in the city proper so there's a lot much more to do and social life is a lot easier. The weather is a lot nicer. I don't really mind when there's a heatwave. My friends and I just get together in the evening. It's not like we can do anything in the afternoon M-F anyway. I've also never had a power outage in NC, whereas we often got multiple every few years growing up. \nIMO this thread is full of copium by people living in blue states. Sure red states have problems, but the pros outweigh the cons in a huge way that's extremely noticeable every day. The idea that these places are secretly shitty and everyone is gonna come flocking back to the northeast (and California honestly) is fictional. You guys would be better off acknowledging the problems you have and working to fix it. California has the right idea by investing in grid battery storage and requiring more housing to be built, but IMO they aren't going far enough to really change the CoL enough.",
">\n\nI searched and found that North Carolina was much more populous than Connecticut, which is interesting",
">\n\nThe US needs to reform its immigration system and bring in a lot more refugees in the future.",
">\n\nYes, but how does that apply to this article?",
">\n\nBecause this is a problem that will only get worse in the future particularly in Florida. Just look at Detroit and the rust belt and see how changing demographics affected them",
">\n\nFlorida’s only population issue is the state is becoming too expensive for entry level laborers. Otherwise a lack a people is definitely not an issue down here as it is in the rust belt.",
">\n\nSouthwest ain't carrying them away!",
">\n\n$500,000 for a 3 bedroom house and 0 residential development since the 2008 crash has lead to a lot of young people packing up and heading out.\nWe are in a MASSIVE labor shortage up here with no end in sight. \nThere is no where to live."
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You should call it Alice Cooper | [
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This is ridiculously good | [
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How much cough syrup were they given to die from ethylene glycol poisoning? Wikipedia says around 4 mL of PURE EG for a 20 kg child for medical treatment to be necessary. Were the bottles just pure eg? If so that's a bit more than a whoopsy.
Pretty much everything in a pharmacy seems to be made in India, cough syrup under a lot less strict controls?
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4 mL is less than a teaspoon. The other ingredients doesn't add much volume, they make the syrup thicker and denser. | [
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Weird volume of replies to this topic accusing the parents of overdosing their kids. I guess it's best not to criticize the country that developed the comment mill. | [
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">\n\n4 mL is less than a teaspoon. The other ingredients doesn't add much volume, they make the syrup thicker and denser."
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There are 4 replies including mine as of this moment. Only one of em relates to your comment, so it's "reply". And the guy is just looking at it from a different perspective. So, chill. | [
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">\n\n4 mL is less than a teaspoon. The other ingredients doesn't add much volume, they make the syrup thicker and denser.",
">\n\nWeird volume of replies to this topic accusing the parents of overdosing their kids. I guess it's best not to criticize the country that developed the comment mill."
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As usual - cheaper very rarely means better (or at least comparable). We can see it not only in Indian medicines but also in Russian military - many people thought naively that cheaper tanks and artillery can perform as good as expensive western armamant - sad truth showed that it can't. | [
"How much cough syrup were they given to die from ethylene glycol poisoning? Wikipedia says around 4 mL of PURE EG for a 20 kg child for medical treatment to be necessary. Were the bottles just pure eg? If so that's a bit more than a whoopsy.\nPretty much everything in a pharmacy seems to be made in India, cough syrup under a lot less strict controls? \nGoing to have to think twice about my hobby of getting tiddlywinked off the 'tussin for awhile.",
">\n\n4 mL is less than a teaspoon. The other ingredients doesn't add much volume, they make the syrup thicker and denser.",
">\n\nWeird volume of replies to this topic accusing the parents of overdosing their kids. I guess it's best not to criticize the country that developed the comment mill.",
">\n\nThere are 4 replies including mine as of this moment. Only one of em relates to your comment, so it's \"reply\". And the guy is just looking at it from a different perspective. So, chill."
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1) Why tf are u bringing the war into something not even closely related to it
2) Cheaper need not mean better, but it also means there is no need of spending like 500$ on a medicine that would cost 10$ to produce. This is one mishap, and The Health Ministry should look into this. But health should not be 'commercialized' | [
"How much cough syrup were they given to die from ethylene glycol poisoning? Wikipedia says around 4 mL of PURE EG for a 20 kg child for medical treatment to be necessary. Were the bottles just pure eg? If so that's a bit more than a whoopsy.\nPretty much everything in a pharmacy seems to be made in India, cough syrup under a lot less strict controls? \nGoing to have to think twice about my hobby of getting tiddlywinked off the 'tussin for awhile.",
">\n\n4 mL is less than a teaspoon. The other ingredients doesn't add much volume, they make the syrup thicker and denser.",
">\n\nWeird volume of replies to this topic accusing the parents of overdosing their kids. I guess it's best not to criticize the country that developed the comment mill.",
">\n\nThere are 4 replies including mine as of this moment. Only one of em relates to your comment, so it's \"reply\". And the guy is just looking at it from a different perspective. So, chill.",
">\n\nAs usual - cheaper very rarely means better (or at least comparable). We can see it not only in Indian medicines but also in Russian military - many people thought naively that cheaper tanks and artillery can perform as good as expensive western armamant - sad truth showed that it can't."
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">\n\n4 mL is less than a teaspoon. The other ingredients doesn't add much volume, they make the syrup thicker and denser.",
">\n\nWeird volume of replies to this topic accusing the parents of overdosing their kids. I guess it's best not to criticize the country that developed the comment mill.",
">\n\nThere are 4 replies including mine as of this moment. Only one of em relates to your comment, so it's \"reply\". And the guy is just looking at it from a different perspective. So, chill.",
">\n\nAs usual - cheaper very rarely means better (or at least comparable). We can see it not only in Indian medicines but also in Russian military - many people thought naively that cheaper tanks and artillery can perform as good as expensive western armamant - sad truth showed that it can't.",
">\n\n1) Why tf are u bringing the war into something not even closely related to it\n2) Cheaper need not mean better, but it also means there is no need of spending like 500$ on a medicine that would cost 10$ to produce. This is one mishap, and The Health Ministry should look into this. But health should not be 'commercialized'"
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"How much cough syrup were they given to die from ethylene glycol poisoning? Wikipedia says around 4 mL of PURE EG for a 20 kg child for medical treatment to be necessary. Were the bottles just pure eg? If so that's a bit more than a whoopsy.\nPretty much everything in a pharmacy seems to be made in India, cough syrup under a lot less strict controls? \nGoing to have to think twice about my hobby of getting tiddlywinked off the 'tussin for awhile.",
">\n\n4 mL is less than a teaspoon. The other ingredients doesn't add much volume, they make the syrup thicker and denser.",
">\n\nWeird volume of replies to this topic accusing the parents of overdosing their kids. I guess it's best not to criticize the country that developed the comment mill.",
">\n\nThere are 4 replies including mine as of this moment. Only one of em relates to your comment, so it's \"reply\". And the guy is just looking at it from a different perspective. So, chill.",
">\n\nAs usual - cheaper very rarely means better (or at least comparable). We can see it not only in Indian medicines but also in Russian military - many people thought naively that cheaper tanks and artillery can perform as good as expensive western armamant - sad truth showed that it can't.",
">\n\n1) Why tf are u bringing the war into something not even closely related to it\n2) Cheaper need not mean better, but it also means there is no need of spending like 500$ on a medicine that would cost 10$ to produce. This is one mishap, and The Health Ministry should look into this. But health should not be 'commercialized'",
">\n\nI wonder if it was codeine cough syrup."
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I see it as further incentive for myself. I look around and see people who look like a mess, don’t pay attention to their surroundings, just act childish, don’t seem to care for themselves or others around them. I see that and want to make myself better than that. It’s been a relatively slow but steady climb and I’m relatively pleased with how far I’ve come in the time since I realized I was that kind of person. A lot can happen in a year. | [
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">\n\nI see it as further incentive for myself. I look around and see people who look like a mess, don’t pay attention to their surroundings, just act childish, don’t seem to care for themselves or others around them. I see that and want to make myself better than that. It’s been a relatively slow but steady climb and I’m relatively pleased with how far I’ve come in the time since I realized I was that kind of person. A lot can happen in a year."
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Agreed. It suck’s when your on your path to growth and others just don’t want to change for the better. It also sucks when you realize you can’t have the same relationship with them as you used to | [
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">\n\nI see it as further incentive for myself. I look around and see people who look like a mess, don’t pay attention to their surroundings, just act childish, don’t seem to care for themselves or others around them. I see that and want to make myself better than that. It’s been a relatively slow but steady climb and I’m relatively pleased with how far I’ve come in the time since I realized I was that kind of person. A lot can happen in a year.",
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Nope. If you’re taking those peoples opinions you still need growing. There’s a point when you must stop caring about everyone’s opinion and literally do what you’re saying and better yourself. | [
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">\n\nI see it as further incentive for myself. I look around and see people who look like a mess, don’t pay attention to their surroundings, just act childish, don’t seem to care for themselves or others around them. I see that and want to make myself better than that. It’s been a relatively slow but steady climb and I’m relatively pleased with how far I’ve come in the time since I realized I was that kind of person. A lot can happen in a year.",
">\n\nA great way to realize a fault in yourself is to see it in others.",
">\n\nAgreed. It suck’s when your on your path to growth and others just don’t want to change for the better. It also sucks when you realize you can’t have the same relationship with them as you used to"
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">\n\nI see it as further incentive for myself. I look around and see people who look like a mess, don’t pay attention to their surroundings, just act childish, don’t seem to care for themselves or others around them. I see that and want to make myself better than that. It’s been a relatively slow but steady climb and I’m relatively pleased with how far I’ve come in the time since I realized I was that kind of person. A lot can happen in a year.",
">\n\nA great way to realize a fault in yourself is to see it in others.",
">\n\nAgreed. It suck’s when your on your path to growth and others just don’t want to change for the better. It also sucks when you realize you can’t have the same relationship with them as you used to",
">\n\nNope. If you’re taking those peoples opinions you still need growing. There’s a point when you must stop caring about everyone’s opinion and literally do what you’re saying and better yourself."
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...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...
Antifreeze killed kids, who would have thought? | [] |
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A spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down... | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?"
] |
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You’ve tried this yourself?? | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down..."
] |
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Nah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste. | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??"
] |
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That's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste."
] |
>
If anyone's interested in reading more about the overseas drug industry, I highly recommend Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban. | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste.",
">\n\nThat's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added"
] |
>
At least 18 children have died in Uzbekistan after consuming a medicinal syrup manufactured by Indian drugmaker Marion Biotech, according to the Uzbek Health Ministry.
The ministry said 18 out of 21 children who took the Doc-1 Max syrup while suffering from an acute respiratory disease died after consuming it. It is marketed on the company’s website as a treatment for cold and flu symptoms.
A batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol, which the ministry said was a toxic substance. The syrup was imported into Uzbekistan by Quramax Medical, the ministry said in its statement released Tuesday.
It also said the syrup was given to children at home without a doctor’s prescription, either by their parents or on the advice of pharmacists, with doses that exceeded the standard dose for children.
It was not immediately clear whether all or any of the children had consumed the suspect batch or had consumed more than the standard dose, or both.
Marion Biotech, Quramax Medical and India’s Health Ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request seeking comment. An Indian government source told Reuters the Health Ministry was looking into the matter.
India had on Tuesday launched an inspection of some drug factories across the country to ensure high quality standards. | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste.",
">\n\nThat's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added",
">\n\nIf anyone's interested in reading more about the overseas drug industry, I highly recommend Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban."
] |
>
ethylene glycol strikes again. What's truly horrifying is that it's happened in the past. Corruption kills. | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste.",
">\n\nThat's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added",
">\n\nIf anyone's interested in reading more about the overseas drug industry, I highly recommend Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban.",
">\n\nAt least 18 children have died in Uzbekistan after consuming a medicinal syrup manufactured by Indian drugmaker Marion Biotech, according to the Uzbek Health Ministry.\nThe ministry said 18 out of 21 children who took the Doc-1 Max syrup while suffering from an acute respiratory disease died after consuming it. It is marketed on the company’s website as a treatment for cold and flu symptoms.\nA batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol, which the ministry said was a toxic substance. The syrup was imported into Uzbekistan by Quramax Medical, the ministry said in its statement released Tuesday.\nIt also said the syrup was given to children at home without a doctor’s prescription, either by their parents or on the advice of pharmacists, with doses that exceeded the standard dose for children.\nIt was not immediately clear whether all or any of the children had consumed the suspect batch or had consumed more than the standard dose, or both.\nMarion Biotech, Quramax Medical and India’s Health Ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request seeking comment. An Indian government source told Reuters the Health Ministry was looking into the matter.\nIndia had on Tuesday launched an inspection of some drug factories across the country to ensure high quality standards."
] |
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The FDA exists due to a poisoning with the similar Diethylene glycol in 1937. | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste.",
">\n\nThat's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added",
">\n\nIf anyone's interested in reading more about the overseas drug industry, I highly recommend Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban.",
">\n\nAt least 18 children have died in Uzbekistan after consuming a medicinal syrup manufactured by Indian drugmaker Marion Biotech, according to the Uzbek Health Ministry.\nThe ministry said 18 out of 21 children who took the Doc-1 Max syrup while suffering from an acute respiratory disease died after consuming it. It is marketed on the company’s website as a treatment for cold and flu symptoms.\nA batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol, which the ministry said was a toxic substance. The syrup was imported into Uzbekistan by Quramax Medical, the ministry said in its statement released Tuesday.\nIt also said the syrup was given to children at home without a doctor’s prescription, either by their parents or on the advice of pharmacists, with doses that exceeded the standard dose for children.\nIt was not immediately clear whether all or any of the children had consumed the suspect batch or had consumed more than the standard dose, or both.\nMarion Biotech, Quramax Medical and India’s Health Ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request seeking comment. An Indian government source told Reuters the Health Ministry was looking into the matter.\nIndia had on Tuesday launched an inspection of some drug factories across the country to ensure high quality standards.",
">\n\nethylene glycol strikes again. What's truly horrifying is that it's happened in the past. Corruption kills."
] |
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Indian manufacturing is subject to a system like affirmative action but based on religion and caste. | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste.",
">\n\nThat's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added",
">\n\nIf anyone's interested in reading more about the overseas drug industry, I highly recommend Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban.",
">\n\nAt least 18 children have died in Uzbekistan after consuming a medicinal syrup manufactured by Indian drugmaker Marion Biotech, according to the Uzbek Health Ministry.\nThe ministry said 18 out of 21 children who took the Doc-1 Max syrup while suffering from an acute respiratory disease died after consuming it. It is marketed on the company’s website as a treatment for cold and flu symptoms.\nA batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol, which the ministry said was a toxic substance. The syrup was imported into Uzbekistan by Quramax Medical, the ministry said in its statement released Tuesday.\nIt also said the syrup was given to children at home without a doctor’s prescription, either by their parents or on the advice of pharmacists, with doses that exceeded the standard dose for children.\nIt was not immediately clear whether all or any of the children had consumed the suspect batch or had consumed more than the standard dose, or both.\nMarion Biotech, Quramax Medical and India’s Health Ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request seeking comment. An Indian government source told Reuters the Health Ministry was looking into the matter.\nIndia had on Tuesday launched an inspection of some drug factories across the country to ensure high quality standards.",
">\n\nethylene glycol strikes again. What's truly horrifying is that it's happened in the past. Corruption kills.",
">\n\nThe FDA exists due to a poisoning with the similar Diethylene glycol in 1937."
] |
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Lul, yeah, that's definitely the cause here, not corporate greed. | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste.",
">\n\nThat's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added",
">\n\nIf anyone's interested in reading more about the overseas drug industry, I highly recommend Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban.",
">\n\nAt least 18 children have died in Uzbekistan after consuming a medicinal syrup manufactured by Indian drugmaker Marion Biotech, according to the Uzbek Health Ministry.\nThe ministry said 18 out of 21 children who took the Doc-1 Max syrup while suffering from an acute respiratory disease died after consuming it. It is marketed on the company’s website as a treatment for cold and flu symptoms.\nA batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol, which the ministry said was a toxic substance. The syrup was imported into Uzbekistan by Quramax Medical, the ministry said in its statement released Tuesday.\nIt also said the syrup was given to children at home without a doctor’s prescription, either by their parents or on the advice of pharmacists, with doses that exceeded the standard dose for children.\nIt was not immediately clear whether all or any of the children had consumed the suspect batch or had consumed more than the standard dose, or both.\nMarion Biotech, Quramax Medical and India’s Health Ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request seeking comment. An Indian government source told Reuters the Health Ministry was looking into the matter.\nIndia had on Tuesday launched an inspection of some drug factories across the country to ensure high quality standards.",
">\n\nethylene glycol strikes again. What's truly horrifying is that it's happened in the past. Corruption kills.",
">\n\nThe FDA exists due to a poisoning with the similar Diethylene glycol in 1937.",
">\n\nIndian manufacturing is subject to a system like affirmative action but based on religion and caste."
] |
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Corporations get a tax break by employing such people rather than most qualified. | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste.",
">\n\nThat's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added",
">\n\nIf anyone's interested in reading more about the overseas drug industry, I highly recommend Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban.",
">\n\nAt least 18 children have died in Uzbekistan after consuming a medicinal syrup manufactured by Indian drugmaker Marion Biotech, according to the Uzbek Health Ministry.\nThe ministry said 18 out of 21 children who took the Doc-1 Max syrup while suffering from an acute respiratory disease died after consuming it. It is marketed on the company’s website as a treatment for cold and flu symptoms.\nA batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol, which the ministry said was a toxic substance. The syrup was imported into Uzbekistan by Quramax Medical, the ministry said in its statement released Tuesday.\nIt also said the syrup was given to children at home without a doctor’s prescription, either by their parents or on the advice of pharmacists, with doses that exceeded the standard dose for children.\nIt was not immediately clear whether all or any of the children had consumed the suspect batch or had consumed more than the standard dose, or both.\nMarion Biotech, Quramax Medical and India’s Health Ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request seeking comment. An Indian government source told Reuters the Health Ministry was looking into the matter.\nIndia had on Tuesday launched an inspection of some drug factories across the country to ensure high quality standards.",
">\n\nethylene glycol strikes again. What's truly horrifying is that it's happened in the past. Corruption kills.",
">\n\nThe FDA exists due to a poisoning with the similar Diethylene glycol in 1937.",
">\n\nIndian manufacturing is subject to a system like affirmative action but based on religion and caste.",
">\n\nLul, yeah, that's definitely the cause here, not corporate greed."
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Interesting assumptions you're making, like it'd ever be relevant to trash like you, lul. | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste.",
">\n\nThat's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added",
">\n\nIf anyone's interested in reading more about the overseas drug industry, I highly recommend Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban.",
">\n\nAt least 18 children have died in Uzbekistan after consuming a medicinal syrup manufactured by Indian drugmaker Marion Biotech, according to the Uzbek Health Ministry.\nThe ministry said 18 out of 21 children who took the Doc-1 Max syrup while suffering from an acute respiratory disease died after consuming it. It is marketed on the company’s website as a treatment for cold and flu symptoms.\nA batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol, which the ministry said was a toxic substance. The syrup was imported into Uzbekistan by Quramax Medical, the ministry said in its statement released Tuesday.\nIt also said the syrup was given to children at home without a doctor’s prescription, either by their parents or on the advice of pharmacists, with doses that exceeded the standard dose for children.\nIt was not immediately clear whether all or any of the children had consumed the suspect batch or had consumed more than the standard dose, or both.\nMarion Biotech, Quramax Medical and India’s Health Ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request seeking comment. An Indian government source told Reuters the Health Ministry was looking into the matter.\nIndia had on Tuesday launched an inspection of some drug factories across the country to ensure high quality standards.",
">\n\nethylene glycol strikes again. What's truly horrifying is that it's happened in the past. Corruption kills.",
">\n\nThe FDA exists due to a poisoning with the similar Diethylene glycol in 1937.",
">\n\nIndian manufacturing is subject to a system like affirmative action but based on religion and caste.",
">\n\nLul, yeah, that's definitely the cause here, not corporate greed.",
">\n\nCorporations get a tax break by employing such people rather than most qualified."
] |
> | [
"...batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol...\n\nAntifreeze killed kids, who would have thought?",
">\n\nA spoonful of antifreeze helps the medicine go down...",
">\n\nYou’ve tried this yourself??",
">\n\nNah man, Julie Andrews. Don't consume antifreeze. People are known to kill dogs and other animals with it due to its sweet taste.",
">\n\nThat's why modern antifreeze is required to have bitterant added",
">\n\nIf anyone's interested in reading more about the overseas drug industry, I highly recommend Bottle of Lies by Katherine Eban.",
">\n\nAt least 18 children have died in Uzbekistan after consuming a medicinal syrup manufactured by Indian drugmaker Marion Biotech, according to the Uzbek Health Ministry.\nThe ministry said 18 out of 21 children who took the Doc-1 Max syrup while suffering from an acute respiratory disease died after consuming it. It is marketed on the company’s website as a treatment for cold and flu symptoms.\nA batch of the syrup contained ethylene glycol, which the ministry said was a toxic substance. The syrup was imported into Uzbekistan by Quramax Medical, the ministry said in its statement released Tuesday.\nIt also said the syrup was given to children at home without a doctor’s prescription, either by their parents or on the advice of pharmacists, with doses that exceeded the standard dose for children.\nIt was not immediately clear whether all or any of the children had consumed the suspect batch or had consumed more than the standard dose, or both.\nMarion Biotech, Quramax Medical and India’s Health Ministry did not immediately respond to a Reuters request seeking comment. An Indian government source told Reuters the Health Ministry was looking into the matter.\nIndia had on Tuesday launched an inspection of some drug factories across the country to ensure high quality standards.",
">\n\nethylene glycol strikes again. What's truly horrifying is that it's happened in the past. Corruption kills.",
">\n\nThe FDA exists due to a poisoning with the similar Diethylene glycol in 1937.",
">\n\nIndian manufacturing is subject to a system like affirmative action but based on religion and caste.",
">\n\nLul, yeah, that's definitely the cause here, not corporate greed.",
">\n\nCorporations get a tax break by employing such people rather than most qualified.",
">\n\nInteresting assumptions you're making, like it'd ever be relevant to trash like you, lul."
] |
If everybody had the same work hours, there were no sleeping children or babies, nobody with ptsd, and no confused and frightened animals, I'd agree with you. | [] |
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Random fireworks sound way too much like gunshots, fireworks are horrible for air quality, and are likely to cause fires if not done in a safe way. | [
"If everybody had the same work hours, there were no sleeping children or babies, nobody with ptsd, and no confused and frightened animals, I'd agree with you."
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Have an upvote. I disagree.
I would vote for any proposal that limits fireworks to two day increments around particular Holidays. Depending on the community likely Independence Day, NewYears, Chinese New Years, and Cinco de Mayo. Even then, I don't like fireworks. To much noise. Disturbs many categories of people:dementia PTSD, the very young, etc Disturbs pets and wildlife. The thick cloud of smoke is horrible. I regard fireworks as noxious and a and a lot of money up in smoke | [
"If everybody had the same work hours, there were no sleeping children or babies, nobody with ptsd, and no confused and frightened animals, I'd agree with you.",
">\n\nRandom fireworks sound way too much like gunshots, fireworks are horrible for air quality, and are likely to cause fires if not done in a safe way."
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I don't mind them going off whenever as long as it's safe and controlled and doesn't cause to much discomfort for those around it who may not like fireworks as much, my dog for example who shits himself (literally) I'd quite like warning lmfao | [
"If everybody had the same work hours, there were no sleeping children or babies, nobody with ptsd, and no confused and frightened animals, I'd agree with you.",
">\n\nRandom fireworks sound way too much like gunshots, fireworks are horrible for air quality, and are likely to cause fires if not done in a safe way.",
">\n\nHave an upvote. I disagree.\nI would vote for any proposal that limits fireworks to two day increments around particular Holidays. Depending on the community likely Independence Day, NewYears, Chinese New Years, and Cinco de Mayo. Even then, I don't like fireworks. To much noise. Disturbs many categories of people:dementia PTSD, the very young, etc Disturbs pets and wildlife. The thick cloud of smoke is horrible. I regard fireworks as noxious and a and a lot of money up in smoke"
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If you live in a neighborhood where hearing gunshots is normal, it's just kind of worrying. Also, my pyromaniac neighbors set off fireworks WAY too often. Every now and then, I would be okay with. But constantly just isn't okay, especially if it's all night long. I have to wake up at 4AM, and I don't love being sleep deprived from a 5 hour fireworks party every week. | [
"If everybody had the same work hours, there were no sleeping children or babies, nobody with ptsd, and no confused and frightened animals, I'd agree with you.",
">\n\nRandom fireworks sound way too much like gunshots, fireworks are horrible for air quality, and are likely to cause fires if not done in a safe way.",
">\n\nHave an upvote. I disagree.\nI would vote for any proposal that limits fireworks to two day increments around particular Holidays. Depending on the community likely Independence Day, NewYears, Chinese New Years, and Cinco de Mayo. Even then, I don't like fireworks. To much noise. Disturbs many categories of people:dementia PTSD, the very young, etc Disturbs pets and wildlife. The thick cloud of smoke is horrible. I regard fireworks as noxious and a and a lot of money up in smoke",
">\n\nI don't mind them going off whenever as long as it's safe and controlled and doesn't cause to much discomfort for those around it who may not like fireworks as much, my dog for example who shits himself (literally) I'd quite like warning lmfao"
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I agree and disagree.
Its like a buildup to the grand finale of every year.
But also why send it off before when no one is watching? What are you trying to do???? | [
"If everybody had the same work hours, there were no sleeping children or babies, nobody with ptsd, and no confused and frightened animals, I'd agree with you.",
">\n\nRandom fireworks sound way too much like gunshots, fireworks are horrible for air quality, and are likely to cause fires if not done in a safe way.",
">\n\nHave an upvote. I disagree.\nI would vote for any proposal that limits fireworks to two day increments around particular Holidays. Depending on the community likely Independence Day, NewYears, Chinese New Years, and Cinco de Mayo. Even then, I don't like fireworks. To much noise. Disturbs many categories of people:dementia PTSD, the very young, etc Disturbs pets and wildlife. The thick cloud of smoke is horrible. I regard fireworks as noxious and a and a lot of money up in smoke",
">\n\nI don't mind them going off whenever as long as it's safe and controlled and doesn't cause to much discomfort for those around it who may not like fireworks as much, my dog for example who shits himself (literally) I'd quite like warning lmfao",
">\n\nIf you live in a neighborhood where hearing gunshots is normal, it's just kind of worrying. Also, my pyromaniac neighbors set off fireworks WAY too often. Every now and then, I would be okay with. But constantly just isn't okay, especially if it's all night long. I have to wake up at 4AM, and I don't love being sleep deprived from a 5 hour fireworks party every week."
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"If everybody had the same work hours, there were no sleeping children or babies, nobody with ptsd, and no confused and frightened animals, I'd agree with you.",
">\n\nRandom fireworks sound way too much like gunshots, fireworks are horrible for air quality, and are likely to cause fires if not done in a safe way.",
">\n\nHave an upvote. I disagree.\nI would vote for any proposal that limits fireworks to two day increments around particular Holidays. Depending on the community likely Independence Day, NewYears, Chinese New Years, and Cinco de Mayo. Even then, I don't like fireworks. To much noise. Disturbs many categories of people:dementia PTSD, the very young, etc Disturbs pets and wildlife. The thick cloud of smoke is horrible. I regard fireworks as noxious and a and a lot of money up in smoke",
">\n\nI don't mind them going off whenever as long as it's safe and controlled and doesn't cause to much discomfort for those around it who may not like fireworks as much, my dog for example who shits himself (literally) I'd quite like warning lmfao",
">\n\nIf you live in a neighborhood where hearing gunshots is normal, it's just kind of worrying. Also, my pyromaniac neighbors set off fireworks WAY too often. Every now and then, I would be okay with. But constantly just isn't okay, especially if it's all night long. I have to wake up at 4AM, and I don't love being sleep deprived from a 5 hour fireworks party every week.",
">\n\nI agree and disagree.\nIts like a buildup to the grand finale of every year.\nBut also why send it off before when no one is watching? What are you trying to do????"
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Good, pile on the pressure. We can't let them get off scot free for everything they've done, we can't repeat the same mistake we did with russia in the past. | [] |
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I still think about the night before the downing when there was a post about evacuating from Iran and a redditor said he was worried about his mom trying to leave to go back to Canada…and then the next day I saw the news of the downing and how Canadians were on board. I’ll never know if his mom made it back safely | [
"Good, pile on the pressure. We can't let them get off scot free for everything they've done, we can't repeat the same mistake we did with russia in the past."
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"Good, pile on the pressure. We can't let them get off scot free for everything they've done, we can't repeat the same mistake we did with russia in the past.",
">\n\nI still think about the night before the downing when there was a post about evacuating from Iran and a redditor said he was worried about his mom trying to leave to go back to Canada…and then the next day I saw the news of the downing and how Canadians were on board. I’ll never know if his mom made it back safely"
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Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure
We are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen.
The US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.
Edit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN | [] |
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If he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN"
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They don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA."
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"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy." | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples."
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Robert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\""
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Santos, you lyin' sonuvabitch! | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960."
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Andrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos
Russian money all over the GOP
No wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader.
How many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress? | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!"
] |
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Russians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?"
] |
>
“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.” | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw"
] |
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Guys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”"
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I had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg! | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up."
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Still on the fence about Stalin though. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!"
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Yeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though."
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Follow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination"
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I'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative."
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i hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions? | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed."
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Keep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?"
] |
>
Well surprise, surprise, surprise! | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff."
] |
>
It's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!"
] |
>
I honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.
All the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.
Once they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up."
] |
>
This dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base."
] |
>
And yet will be forgotten by the next election. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades"
] |
>
He is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election."
] |
>
A lying politician may have done something illegal???
No way! /s | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation."
] |
>
That just makes him.... smart....? | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s"
] |
>
I have legally used the tax laws to my benefit and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly - I have brilliantly used those laws.
Donald J. Trump | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s",
">\n\nThat just makes him.... smart....?"
] |
>
Trump's company had "investors"? That's news I think. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s",
">\n\nThat just makes him.... smart....?",
">\n\n\nI have legally used the tax laws to my benefit and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly - I have brilliantly used those laws.\n\nDonald J. Trump"
] |
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Sure, Donny Jr, Eric, Ivanka, probably Tiffany, and maybe Barron too. Everyone forgets about Barron, but I’m pretty sure he’s the mastermind behind it all. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s",
">\n\nThat just makes him.... smart....?",
">\n\n\nI have legally used the tax laws to my benefit and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly - I have brilliantly used those laws.\n\nDonald J. Trump",
">\n\nTrump's company had \"investors\"? That's news I think."
] |
>
Those are family, not what we generally think of as the (nameless) "investors". | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s",
">\n\nThat just makes him.... smart....?",
">\n\n\nI have legally used the tax laws to my benefit and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly - I have brilliantly used those laws.\n\nDonald J. Trump",
">\n\nTrump's company had \"investors\"? That's news I think.",
">\n\nSure, Donny Jr, Eric, Ivanka, probably Tiffany, and maybe Barron too. Everyone forgets about Barron, but I’m pretty sure he’s the mastermind behind it all."
] |
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why are we thinking anything he says is legally correct? | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s",
">\n\nThat just makes him.... smart....?",
">\n\n\nI have legally used the tax laws to my benefit and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly - I have brilliantly used those laws.\n\nDonald J. Trump",
">\n\nTrump's company had \"investors\"? That's news I think.",
">\n\nSure, Donny Jr, Eric, Ivanka, probably Tiffany, and maybe Barron too. Everyone forgets about Barron, but I’m pretty sure he’s the mastermind behind it all.",
">\n\nThose are family, not what we generally think of as the (nameless) \"investors\"."
] |
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Is this guy the male version of Anna Sorokin... wait... Is he really Anna Sorokin in disguise? Does George Santos even exist? | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s",
">\n\nThat just makes him.... smart....?",
">\n\n\nI have legally used the tax laws to my benefit and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly - I have brilliantly used those laws.\n\nDonald J. Trump",
">\n\nTrump's company had \"investors\"? That's news I think.",
">\n\nSure, Donny Jr, Eric, Ivanka, probably Tiffany, and maybe Barron too. Everyone forgets about Barron, but I’m pretty sure he’s the mastermind behind it all.",
">\n\nThose are family, not what we generally think of as the (nameless) \"investors\".",
">\n\nwhy are we thinking anything he says is legally correct?"
] |
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I voted for Kodos | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s",
">\n\nThat just makes him.... smart....?",
">\n\n\nI have legally used the tax laws to my benefit and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly - I have brilliantly used those laws.\n\nDonald J. Trump",
">\n\nTrump's company had \"investors\"? That's news I think.",
">\n\nSure, Donny Jr, Eric, Ivanka, probably Tiffany, and maybe Barron too. Everyone forgets about Barron, but I’m pretty sure he’s the mastermind behind it all.",
">\n\nThose are family, not what we generally think of as the (nameless) \"investors\".",
">\n\nwhy are we thinking anything he says is legally correct?",
">\n\nIs this guy the male version of Anna Sorokin... wait... Is he really Anna Sorokin in disguise? Does George Santos even exist?"
] |
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I'm just waiting for him to peel human skin and reveal Kang or Kodos. | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s",
">\n\nThat just makes him.... smart....?",
">\n\n\nI have legally used the tax laws to my benefit and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly - I have brilliantly used those laws.\n\nDonald J. Trump",
">\n\nTrump's company had \"investors\"? That's news I think.",
">\n\nSure, Donny Jr, Eric, Ivanka, probably Tiffany, and maybe Barron too. Everyone forgets about Barron, but I’m pretty sure he’s the mastermind behind it all.",
">\n\nThose are family, not what we generally think of as the (nameless) \"investors\".",
">\n\nwhy are we thinking anything he says is legally correct?",
">\n\nIs this guy the male version of Anna Sorokin... wait... Is he really Anna Sorokin in disguise? Does George Santos even exist?",
">\n\nI voted for Kodos"
] |
> | [
"Santos, who in 2020 reported holding no assets and a salary of $55,000 from a vice president position at a financial company called LinkBridge, appears to have suddenly come into substantial wealth, claiming a net worth of as much as $11.5 million on his 2022 financial disclosure\n\nWe are on the “find out” phase of the George Santos campaign. This is one part of the his troubles with the finances. Next is his non profit company and the other one is if he a US citizen. \nThe US citizen question is interesting because the constitution requires one to be a citizen for a minimum of seven years to be eligible for the house. The timelines don’t match if he acquired the citizenship through green card process.\nEdit: he is under federal investigation now as per CNN",
">\n\nIf he's not and he's elected, basically there's no check if a candidate is even qualified to run for the House. Any ole Russian asset can just come out and run for a national office in the USA.",
">\n\nThey don’t need to run actual Russians to have Russian assets. Tulsi and shit face piss head Rand Paul are good examples.",
">\n\n\"Santos claims his windfall is mostly due to the untimely passing of a so-called 'Great Uncle Tim' who, Santos claims, invented the Slip n' Slide during a 1963 Rio-area orgy.\"",
">\n\nRobert Carrier, an upholsterer, invented the Slip n Slide in the summer of 1960.",
">\n\nSantos, you lyin' sonuvabitch!",
">\n\nAndrew Intrater, cousin and money-manager to the sanctioned Russian oligarch Viktor Vekselberg, who contributed a combined $80,000 to the PAC, per state records. Intrater and his wife were also two of the largest donors to both Zeldin and Santos\nRussian money all over the GOP\nNo wonder they are so pro Russia, just like their dear leader. \nHow many more russia backed GOP can be found in Congress?",
">\n\nRussians get republicans the house majority, republicans refuse to fund Ukraine. It’s a pretty easy line to draw",
">\n\n\n“If I wished to illegally fund a campaign and hide it, what I would do is run the money through a dummy corporation, then to a dark money group that supports the campaign. But if I was not that up on things, or a little lazy, I might … set up the dummy corporation, say it’s in the name of the candidate, then have the candidate pay himself the money and give it to the campaign,” Libowitz said. “This isn’t to say that this is clearly an illegal pass-through donation scheme, because we don’t know the full picture yet—but if it were one, this is what it would look like.”",
">\n\nGuys, I’m starting to get the feeling this guy might not be on the up and up.",
">\n\nI had the same feeling about that Hitler guy. Around January 1945 I realized he was a bad egg!",
">\n\nStill on the fence about Stalin though.",
">\n\nYeah. He doesn't seem to hang out with any bad eggs. Although, I keep thinking he has dodgy friends, but when I look at the pictures again they aren't there anymore...must be my imagination",
">\n\nFollow the money and there will be finger prints of a Russian oligarch. 2nd NY republican representative.",
">\n\nI'd argue just like everything else that the loans are also a lie and that money never existed.",
">\n\ni hope the daily beast will also look into boeberts finances. she was an assistant manager at mcdonald’s and a high school drop out raised on welfare. why does she now have millions?",
">\n\nKeep digging, if ones he was willing to admit were that bad, he's hiding a lot worse stuff.",
">\n\nWell surprise, surprise, surprise!",
">\n\nIt's never the reprehensible deeds, it's the money that trips people up.",
">\n\nI honestly think he is an experiment to see how much they can get away with.\nAll the investigations will be slow rolled when the Republicans take control of the house. They will hope that this is all forgotten by 2024, so they can do it all over again with larger numbers of candidates.\nOnce they get their supporters to accept paid for candidates, it will be easy for to manipulate the base.",
">\n\nThis dude and his bullshit campaign is going to be studied for decades",
">\n\nAnd yet will be forgotten by the next election.",
">\n\nHe is not qualified to represent the GOP as he clearly lacks the skill to reach the remotely plausible deniable level of money flow obfuscation.",
">\n\nA lying politician may have done something illegal???\nNo way! /s",
">\n\nThat just makes him.... smart....?",
">\n\n\nI have legally used the tax laws to my benefit and to the benefit of my company, my investors and my employees. I mean, honestly, I have brilliantly - I have brilliantly used those laws.\n\nDonald J. Trump",
">\n\nTrump's company had \"investors\"? That's news I think.",
">\n\nSure, Donny Jr, Eric, Ivanka, probably Tiffany, and maybe Barron too. Everyone forgets about Barron, but I’m pretty sure he’s the mastermind behind it all.",
">\n\nThose are family, not what we generally think of as the (nameless) \"investors\".",
">\n\nwhy are we thinking anything he says is legally correct?",
">\n\nIs this guy the male version of Anna Sorokin... wait... Is he really Anna Sorokin in disguise? Does George Santos even exist?",
">\n\nI voted for Kodos",
">\n\nI'm just waiting for him to peel human skin and reveal Kang or Kodos."
] |
So what your telling me is they’re planning not to make any changes to their platform? | [] |
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It would be sweet if they created a policy platform again instead of 100% culture war. | [
"So what your telling me is they’re planning not to make any changes to their platform?"
] |
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Creating a policy platform would be a good thing, even for them.
Hence, they will not be doing that | [
"So what your telling me is they’re planning not to make any changes to their platform?",
">\n\nIt would be sweet if they created a policy platform again instead of 100% culture war."
] |
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Their policy platform is "We need to see Hunter Biden's dick pics" | [
"So what your telling me is they’re planning not to make any changes to their platform?",
">\n\nIt would be sweet if they created a policy platform again instead of 100% culture war.",
">\n\nCreating a policy platform would be a good thing, even for them.\nHence, they will not be doing that"
] |
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Of course they are. Republicans have no platform other then their power, their ego, their pocketbook, and revenge/.oppression of others*. It's who they and their base are so I expect nothing less.
Others*: Women, gays, minorities, immigrants, non-Republicans, non-Christians, middle-class, and poor. | [
"So what your telling me is they’re planning not to make any changes to their platform?",
">\n\nIt would be sweet if they created a policy platform again instead of 100% culture war.",
">\n\nCreating a policy platform would be a good thing, even for them.\nHence, they will not be doing that",
">\n\nTheir policy platform is \"We need to see Hunter Biden's dick pics\""
] |
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