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"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!"
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She should be forced to read the constitution for the first time in her life, aloud in the town square | [
"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!",
">\n\nShe deserves a heart felt Nelson laugh."
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Should have been the total of $700,000 that she wasted of the taxpayers money. Fucking corrupt judges. | [
"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!",
">\n\nShe deserves a heart felt Nelson laugh.",
">\n\nShe should be forced to read the constitution for the first time in her life, aloud in the town square"
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"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!",
">\n\nShe deserves a heart felt Nelson laugh.",
">\n\nShe should be forced to read the constitution for the first time in her life, aloud in the town square",
">\n\nShould have been the total of $700,000 that she wasted of the taxpayers money. Fucking corrupt judges."
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"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!",
">\n\nShe deserves a heart felt Nelson laugh.",
">\n\nShe should be forced to read the constitution for the first time in her life, aloud in the town square",
">\n\nShould have been the total of $700,000 that she wasted of the taxpayers money. Fucking corrupt judges.",
">\n\nHaha loser"
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Regarldess of political view, i think it's important to appreciate the fact that we have the freedom to challenge our government and the fact that we allow women to hold positions within government.
You might not like this particular person but we should remember that in some countries, a person would be executed for less. | [
"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!",
">\n\nShe deserves a heart felt Nelson laugh.",
">\n\nShe should be forced to read the constitution for the first time in her life, aloud in the town square",
">\n\nShould have been the total of $700,000 that she wasted of the taxpayers money. Fucking corrupt judges.",
">\n\nHaha loser",
">\n\nIt should be several million for annoying the world with her sophomoric lies and histrionics."
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"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!",
">\n\nShe deserves a heart felt Nelson laugh.",
">\n\nShe should be forced to read the constitution for the first time in her life, aloud in the town square",
">\n\nShould have been the total of $700,000 that she wasted of the taxpayers money. Fucking corrupt judges.",
">\n\nHaha loser",
">\n\nIt should be several million for annoying the world with her sophomoric lies and histrionics.",
">\n\nRegarldess of political view, i think it's important to appreciate the fact that we have the freedom to challenge our government and the fact that we allow women to hold positions within government.\nYou might not like this particular person but we should remember that in some countries, a person would be executed for less."
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"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!",
">\n\nShe deserves a heart felt Nelson laugh.",
">\n\nShe should be forced to read the constitution for the first time in her life, aloud in the town square",
">\n\nShould have been the total of $700,000 that she wasted of the taxpayers money. Fucking corrupt judges.",
">\n\nHaha loser",
">\n\nIt should be several million for annoying the world with her sophomoric lies and histrionics.",
">\n\nRegarldess of political view, i think it's important to appreciate the fact that we have the freedom to challenge our government and the fact that we allow women to hold positions within government.\nYou might not like this particular person but we should remember that in some countries, a person would be executed for less.",
">\n\nWhat's with the picture caption?"
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"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!",
">\n\nShe deserves a heart felt Nelson laugh.",
">\n\nShe should be forced to read the constitution for the first time in her life, aloud in the town square",
">\n\nShould have been the total of $700,000 that she wasted of the taxpayers money. Fucking corrupt judges.",
">\n\nHaha loser",
">\n\nIt should be several million for annoying the world with her sophomoric lies and histrionics.",
">\n\nRegarldess of political view, i think it's important to appreciate the fact that we have the freedom to challenge our government and the fact that we allow women to hold positions within government.\nYou might not like this particular person but we should remember that in some countries, a person would be executed for less.",
">\n\nWhat's with the picture caption?",
">\n\n/r/conservative still thinks she’s gonna win. Big mental gymnastics facility over there."
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"Should be paid out of her own pocket rather than her campaign.",
">\n\nShe should face charges for trying to use state assets to reverse an election.",
">\n\nTreason used to have more severe consequences",
">\n\nUntil it became a staple of the GQP.",
">\n\nAs much as it pains me to say it, not throwing people out of helicopters is a part of what makes good people good people. What a fucking world we’ve made, hey?\nI wouldn’t mind if they were left to their own devices, e.g. if we stopped funding failed red state governance with blue state taxpayer dollars, which would have the same effect by a far more moral mechanism.",
">\n\nI've always liked the idea of withholding federal benefits from states whose senators vote against them.",
">\n\nAs someone who grew up in Texas, if that ever happened Texas would go bankrupt after a natural disaster. The chuckle twins of Canadian Ted and Cornyn love to grandstand about budget responsibility and always vote against aid for other states, but fuck me if ANYTHING remotely bad ever happens in Texas they beg like crackheads for federal aid and relief funds.",
">\n\nWell I think it is annoying to see them vote against things and then brag about the money they bring in from a bill they voted against.\nBut if they had to lose the money by not supporting the bill we'd see more good faith votes (or ideally angry voters getting better candidates in).",
">\n\nLet's be 100% real. None of that would happen. You'd just have them spin it as \"Democrats want you to starve and die. How disgusting and vile.\" and yeah, that'd be about it. Election would come and Ted Cruz would be back right where he was because y'all like to get fucked sideways down there by your power grid and everyone voted into power.",
">\n\nThis headline, while accurate, is misleading. Hobbs and Maricopa County were seeking an additional $700k in reimbursement from Lake, which the judge did not grant. I'm assuming taxpayers will be covering that. Party of fiscal responsibility and all that. Still, Arizona's taxpayers are getting quite a deal when compared to the more than $200 million California's had to waste on the sad recall attempt of Gov. Newsom.",
">\n\nWe've already paid $90 million or so on Ducey's container \"wall.\"",
">\n\nYou mean the one with the gaps because of the hilly terrain?",
">\n\nCorrect the one that has already been cut through in multiple places and the border patrol hates because it reduces visibility around the border.",
">\n\n$90m for a blind spot",
">\n\n75 million for a publicity stunt towards the right. 15 million for grifting if we're being generous here in assuming they didn't pocket more of it.",
">\n\nShe could sell worthless NFTs of herself as a fictional action figure.",
">\n\nMake sure to first steal the images from small clothing companies and then photoshop them to celebrate the achievements you never actually accomplished.",
">\n\nHer moon landing?",
">\n\nI was wondering who left their knock off Prada bag up there. Wait, this photo looks shopped. The shadows are wrong.",
">\n\nFlags are never that stiff. \n^(And neither is her husband.)",
">\n\nHow many L’s can she take?",
">\n\nHey, someone's gotta hold the world record. If she wants to continually embarrass herself on every possible level and become a joke for the history books, alright.",
">\n\nshe's got a long way to go to catch up to Donald...",
">\n\nShe will do like Trump always does, beg supporters to pay her costs, which like the dumb sheep they are will gladly throw their money down the drain on another lying clown",
">\n\nWait till you find out about this guy named trump",
">\n\nHe's the losingest loser who ever won.",
">\n\nHe's talking about the election, not the popular vote. (In 2016.) The popular vote roughly correlates with election results, but I think by now everyone is excruciatingly familiar with how it differs, too.",
">\n\nGood ol' gerrymandering",
">\n\nIn a very indirect way, I guess.\n1) If you think of the states' borders as being arbitrary, sure, maybe the continent itself is gerrymandered. And it has a big effect on the election outcome.\n2) Gerrymandering the districts of a state's legislature can cause that state to enact strange laws, whose purpose seems to be to discourage voting. There's a certain major party, where if they get into a state's legislature, then members of that party are known for trying to limit polling place availability, they think government should use force against anyone caught rendering aid to voters as they wait in the now-longer lines, and they might try to limit or reduce early or absentee voting. And gerrymandering helps to let those legislative failures happen.",
">\n\nFirst comes repayment to the defendants for lawyer fees. That sets a minimum penalty for these ridiculous republican led cases. Perhaps in the future damages can also be applied in these cases. It's about the only way to get the droolers to pay attention.",
">\n\nAll due respect, did you read the articles. She doesn’t have to pay the defendants fees. She has to pay for a few expert witnesses and whatnot. \nTo be fair the title of the article is horrible and it buried the lead.",
">\n\nYes. Journalism uses intentionally misspelled words as lingo to differentiate from usual uses of the word. So “lede” to refer to the introduction of the main story line. Usually it’s part of the first graf or two but there have been some publications that sometimes used a more narrative style of writing and would push the lede down in the story.",
">\n\nThat’s peanuts to her. She should be forced to pay millions in punitive damages for a frivolous lawsuit.",
">\n\nThe punitive damages for frivolous lawsuits really needs to be given more teeth.\n33k? Thats nothing to these people. She probably made x10 that in donations during her clownshow of a lawsuit.",
">\n\nit's pronounced lolsuit.",
">\n\nAdd at least 2 zeros to prevent future frivolous lawsuits.",
">\n\nTerrible headline. She won her appeal to avoid paying 700k against her defense for a frivolous case, and the 33k is just to pay for experts she called to testify on her behalf. This is a loss for justice, not a victory.",
">\n\nLol\nTry again Kari maybe this time it'll work",
">\n\nShe won’t pay, like her orange lord",
">\n\n\nThe judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” \n\nKaren announced prior to the election that she would not accept and would challenge any other outcome than a win. On what planet is that sincerity?",
">\n\nGonna put a dent in her makeup budget",
">\n\nNot enough zeros in that number. Also, she should pay, not her campaign.",
">\n\nEvery person working on collecting and counting votes should get to slap Kari Lake one time. She wasn't just questioning the system, she was questioning the integrity of every person involved in the system.",
">\n\nNot enough because she should have been sanctioned. Every yahoo muppet who continues to file legal challenges on the soggy muck of \"election fraud\" should face maximum penalties at all times when proven they don't have a leg of proof to stand on. Trump has made it the default reason for a Trumpublican to sue if they lose. If the Arizona Republican party had the balls to censure poor Cindy McCain for stating her heartened belief, then they should crucify Lake for literally filing a lawsuit to steal an election herself if they want to right the sinking ship of the party.\nI doubt it, however. The next two years will likely show they won't make law, but will instead spend time making accusations out of spite.",
">\n\nShe looks like George Santos. Except Santos wears more makeup and more lip gloss.",
">\n\nJudge helped Kari Lake dodge a $700,000 bill.\nWhen does accountability really happen?",
">\n\nNot nearly enough. Her bullshit is leading to people getting death threats from her smoothbrained followers.",
">\n\nSuch a stupid stupid woman. Here during the primaries she was in the lead and still calling the elections rigged. SO glad this human turd lost.",
">\n\nThat’s it?!? Crime does indeed pay.",
">\n\n“Can I pay in Trump NFTs?”",
">\n\nLet me remind everyone that Kari Lake's qualifications is repeating words directly off of a teleprompter.\nKari Lake has no actual skills. Her career involves looking good and repeating what she's told. She's nothing but a TV figure.\nIt's absurd that she even ran and came this close.",
">\n\nDo we need a reminder about a similar skillset individual that was elected to the presidency of the US?",
">\n\nAbsolutely. It's absurd that Trump ran and won!\nWe need to stop electing TV figures!",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be actual, real time consequences to the bullshit these vile beings pull",
">\n\nHopefully Lake and Oz never have shows again. If they want to grift on right wing podcasts then I dont care but keep them off TV.",
">\n\nSo she not only lost the election, but $33,000 as well. Scientists need to compare her DNA to Trump's to see if they can identify an actual \"loser gene\" for the first time.",
">\n\nThat thumbnail should be in a dictionary under the definition for narcissist",
">\n\nWatching republicans continue to spiral into anti-intellectualism is really something to watch.",
">\n\nDo you think people will stop challenging election results like she’s doing when they see that it doesn’t work?",
">\n\nI just got banned from /r/karilake, otherwise I would tell them this important news! (But they don't seem to like 'facts' on that sub.)",
">\n\nLove to watch sociopathic narcissists get their comeuppance\nIts the little things like this that bring balance back to this unjust world.",
">\n\nGood. There needs to be penalties.",
">\n\nGuess we can expect some Kari Lake NFTS soon",
">\n\nGOP: Can't win at the ballot box? Maybe you can find a sympathetic judge! What have you got to lose?",
">\n\n“The judge said he did not question Lake’s sincerity.”\nThe judge, even though he didn’t find in favor of Lake, was an idiot. Also, he said that Lake wouldn’t have to pay the other side’s $700k legal fees. She got off with a light tap on the wrist.",
">\n\nI get the feeling she was promised a slam dunk win with the trump backing, stamp of approval and possible trump vp. And she was so delusional. These election results deniers are insane. SMH.",
">\n\nDidn’t rise to the standard of malicious or frivolous suit? Are you freaking kidding me? What would that look like if not this?",
">\n\nGlad she won’t be able to ruin AZ though",
">\n\nIts a shame. Her argument is in bad faith and she should be required to pay attorneys fees.",
">\n\nAlways a good day when politicians lose money over dumb shit",
">\n\nKari Failure Lake",
">\n\nDoes nobody remember 25 years ago when this narcissist screamed at the bouncer of the bar Dos Gringos in Tempe, \"Don't you know who I am?\" Repeatedly with much additional vulgarity. Because she didn't bring ID.\nShe was a new broadcaster and was forced to make a televised apology. Still the same entitled narcissist.",
">\n\nShe publicly lusts over another man’s penis that isn’t her husbands, and goes on television to gloat about it and expects no back lash. This cretin actually did that. This is the stupidity of American politics 2022.",
">\n\nI hadn't heard about that. Details please.",
">\n\nHer and that Santos guy in New York look and act like twins.",
">\n\nA true patriot - tried her hardest to steal an election.",
">\n\nScari Kari and Abe ( I can't take losing Hamadeh ) need to go away ...you lost ..that's it..in a Democracy\nAny lawyer that continues to follow the yellow brick road you have laid out... should be sanctioned for following the big lie and posing a threat to our Democracy",
">\n\nWow. Such harsh consequences.",
">\n\nA drop in the bucket...",
">\n\nOrdered to pay $33K but how much did it end up costing the state (I'm guessing faaaar more than 33K)",
">\n\nRead the article you’re commenting on and then you will have the answer.",
">\n\nGot my answer already, thanks. \nAnd yes, I did read the article when I finally got the chance.",
">\n\nMost people would edit their comment or delete it entirely to reflect that, but you do you I guess.",
">\n\nMost people definitely do not edit their comment or delete, unless they're getting a lot of downvotes. In fact most people will just leave the conversation and pretend it doesn't exist anymore.",
">\n\nBut not to pay the taxpayer's attorney fees? Sweet /s",
">\n\nHer shameless co-opting of the Rosie the Riveter ad is nauseating.",
">\n\nAn expense that was well worth it to her campaign to spread misinformation, get attention, and delegitimize both elections and the judicial system.",
">\n\nShe got out of paying 700,00k in legal fees of those she sued, including the Governor elect and Maricopa county. So looks like taxpayers get left with the bill.",
">\n\nOh come on, did they have to choose “33” thousand. That pesky number is going give the maga conspiracy heads way way way to much ammo 🙄",
">\n\nNeeded to be more. \n$33k is just laugh it off money. These fines need to be much higher so the person learns a lesson. Alex Jones’ fines are well above a billion, and he’s out there still acting like an ass.",
">\n\nJust pull a Donald Trump and don’t pay it. Apparently you can do that.",
">\n\nGood, this should happen to everyone who files frivolous suits like this.",
">\n\nWhat a raging loser this dumpster fire of a person is.",
">\n\nTake that, fascist!",
">\n\nHahahah! Pay up and get fucked, twat.",
">\n\nThanks for creating a cesspool of talent for us to choose from Republicans.",
">\n\nSeems pretty low to me",
">\n\nSo she made her own Rosie the Riveter shirt. Isn’t this a copyright infringement?",
">\n\nBest Christmas present ever.",
">\n\nPeople like Kari Lake (and Trump, and Rudy Giuliani) use the court system to lend a sense of legitimacy to their bizarre claims. They invent some wild fabrication about systemic fraud in the electoral system. Then they pound the table and canvass the airwaves with their lies. They they file lawsuits trying to turn their lies into fact. But at the end of the day these lies still have ABSOLUTELY ZERO SUBSTANCE WHATSOEVER. \nIt's an abuse of the legal process and the court system needs to crack down. But it won't because many of the judges were appointed by Trump, or they live in red state America where opinions are just as good as facts.",
">\n\nWow. She really loves the smell of her own farts. I expect we’ll see her whining on the main stage at CPAC next year.",
">\n\nLook, this lady needed to be bullied periodically when she was younger. She has the worst case of main character syndrome I’ve ever seen.",
">\n\nAnd after this can we please never talk about her again?\nWaste of air.",
">\n\nFucking Mega Loser!",
">\n\nHopefully the Appeals Court slaps her and her Lawyers with the sanctions the first Judge was too weak to impose.",
">\n\n“If it pleases the court, I’d like to pay in spray tan gift cards?”",
">\n\nThe damage she did was far more costly than $33 thousand.. at least make her financially sorry with at least half her entire net worth",
">\n\nHa Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!",
">\n\nShe is wearing a rip-off Rosie the riveter shirt with her face. Funny how those who only know how to exploit the working class pretend that they’re one of us. What a joke!",
">\n\nIt’s sad to see how low the bar is for conservative Americans.",
">\n\ndelicious",
">\n\nShe tried to stay relevant by “challenging” the election results but the backfire is so sweet.",
">\n\nIt's like the stupid is never piled high enough or deep enough for these people.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nI like when the public coffers were not drained for grandstanding ~~snowf~~ politicians. The entire US needs to embrace this reimbursement system IMO.\nHowever, they need to pay the FULL costs.",
">\n\nThat shirt makes her ugly.",
">\n\nNot enough",
">\n\nShe's not going to pay it, one of her billionare/millionare owners will.",
">\n\nWe haven't seen or heard the last of her. She's probably got a Senate race in her future.",
">\n\nI’m sure that’s covered by Peter Theil, or some fracking millionaire.",
">\n\nShe raised a ton of cash off the challenge so this is nothing.",
">\n\nTo confirm, is it Kari Lake who is ordered to pay $33k or is it her campaign that's on the hook for that amount?",
">\n\nPerfect, now please shut up!",
">\n\nThe low amount is not a deterrent and she should have paid more-somewhere between $33k and $700k. Judge essentially sided with Lake. \n\nBut Thompson rejected arguments by attorneys of those she had sued that Lake’s failures to meet the legal standards rose to the level necessary under the law to require her, as the loser, to reimburse those she sued…\nTuesday’s ruling does not end the controversy. Lake continues to insist that the election was rigged and has vowed to seek review by the Arizona Supreme Court…",
">\n\nShe won’t have to pay it. She’ll\nGet her donors to pay it. So, no personal incentive to not do this in the future.",
">\n\nIts funny seeing all these losers go down swinging like this. Idiots.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a POS",
">\n\nThere’s always OF.",
">\n\nThats what her lyin ass get 🤣",
">\n\nSome Low iq shit right here",
">\n\nWoops, guess her constituents better start donating...these political bills aren't gonna pay themselves. Time to roll up the ol' sleeves and maybe cancel the Netflix.",
">\n\nWow, challenging elections is pretty cheap, all things considered.",
">\n\nFrom the photo: Imagine running for governor with your main qualification being “I was a TV news anchor” and identifying yourself with Rosie the Riveter.",
">\n\nWhat's the over under she complies ?",
">\n\nYas 👏🏼",
">\n\n\n“There is no doubt that each side believes firmly in its position with great conviction,” he wrote. Still, he said, it wasn’t enough for Lake to win, even though he was not imposing sanctions.\n“Any legal decision must be based on the law and facts rather than subjective beliefs or partisan opinions, no matter how strongly held,” Thompson wrote.\n\nSo facts over feelings?",
">\n\nBasically it's like he's saying don't be a sore loser because you're bound and determined to be a conspiracy theorist and \"fraud election\" nut. Lake literally filed a lawsuit to be declared the actual Governor-elect and steal an election. He still messed up though with the weak ruling.",
">\n\nRosie the riveter would fuck her up",
">\n\nShe is going to have to liquidate her trump NFT position.",
">\n\nYeah… it’ll probably sit unpaid just like those Trump tabs he rang up!",
">\n\nI'm sure Trump will give it to her from all the fake election fraud funds he collected",
">\n\nAppropriately, her name is Albanian for the word dick.",
">\n\nShe won't pay. Repubs never pay their bills.",
">\n\nWhat a shame it's not 10 times that. Are they giving her a special \"lying sack of evil shit\" discount?",
">\n\nThey are testing the limits of the constitution and they should definitely have to pay for their “experiments” with the courts. It’s not right that we have to foot the bill",
">\n\nHow many Rubles is that?",
">\n\nSo she’s such a loser she’s now paying to lose. A star of the MAGA movement, and they wonder why folks laugh at them.\nAnd their other one is a pathological liar. Lied to them to get votes, and they’re still cool with it. Losing dignity to vote Republican. A complete group of losers.",
">\n\nShe’ll do a Trump and not pay up.",
">\n\nNot NEARLY enough",
">\n\nPoliticians who challenge the results of an election they lost with no proof should be banned from holding office.",
">\n\nDrop in the bucket for all the money she has from morons donating.",
">\n\nShould go to the people who had to recount it",
">\n\nIt should have been more than that really",
">\n\nLet all the election deniers pay for it. Just like how Trump “the billionaire” had his poor and middle class cult pay for it.",
">\n\nWhelp, that’s the cost of being so sure.",
">\n\nInteresting that this is the same amount that OJ still owes to the Goldman and Brown families.",
">\n\nWow… 33k for a politician is literally like 20 bucks for a upper middle class person",
">\n\nLake and her lunacy cost the taxpayer a lot more than that.",
">\n\nScum, should be in jail",
">\n\nPlay stupid games, win stupid prizes.",
">\n\nHa ha ha ha",
">\n\nWait, I thought she owed 700k in legal fees.",
">\n\nWhich she will refuse to pay because she really wants Trump inside her.",
">\n\nKari Lake is a loser who needs to go away.",
">\n\nSanctions tend to be lower than this, so it's actually a pretty good result. The stigma of sanctions is often much worse than the actual payout. If lawyers know that filing stuff for liars like Lake will hurt their reputation in the legal community they will stop taking these cases or it will be like the Trump saga where the lawyers only get sketchier and sketchier as time goes on.",
">\n\nShe wasn't sanctioned and the judge said she was sincere. She just had to pay a tiny amount of expert witness fees. I'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing",
">\n\n\nI'm not sure why since judge ruled for her otherwise. It's very disappointing\n\nPlease explain.",
">\n\nJudge ruled she didn't have to pay attorney fees and said they believed she was sincere in her belief there was fraud. They estimated the full attorney fees to be around 700k. This was just a small bit for expert witness. I'm not actually sure why she pays for that bit because it's not any kind of punishment. Maybe it's a lower standard to get people to pay that expense than normal attorney fees. I find that disappointing because I disagree about her sincerity- she knows damn well what she's doing",
">\n\nEvery time I read \"Kari Lake\", I think Ricki Lake.",
">\n\nWhat happens if she refuses to pay?",
">\n\n$33,000 doesn't seem like much.",
">\n\nYes, you file foolish and frivolous lawsuits and loose. You pay for the courts and lawyers wasted time.",
">\n\nJust sell some NFTs.",
">\n\nI think it’s funny how all the whiners on here didn’t watch or know anything about the trial. If you did watch you would know that Maricopa county is completely incompetent to run election at best.",
">\n\nMaybe you guys can hire a right-wing firm to do a six month long audit and prove it once and for all? Like they say, 62nd time is the charm!!\nWait…",
">\n\nSomeone call the Digital Samurai! They have the answers we seek!",
">\n\nThe fine should be in the millions. This pocket change fine will only ensure that this happens again and again.",
">\n\nThat's not even punishment. She can find that in the cushions of her campaign contribution couch.",
">\n\nGood luck with that.",
">\n\n\"Stand by the stairway, you'll see something\ncertain to tell you confusion has its cost.\" C,S&N",
">\n\nAnd she still has the nerve to appeal her court loss.",
">\n\nI hope all of her supporters go bankrupt trying to fund her and all her bull shit.",
">\n\nNelson: HA HA 👉",
">\n\nLet’s hope this destroys what chances she has in the future. The farcical if dangerous attacks on the working parts of the system paired with zero interest in fixing anything actually broken stand in stark contrast.",
">\n\nI mean, her entire basis for running for office was based on election fraud\nNow you pay the consequences of being an idiot",
">\n\nShe can write a worthless check from her MAGA account.",
">\n\nWhen is this dude going to go away?",
">\n\nOh no, she might no longer be able to afford the soft filters her cameras use so they hide her wrinkles.",
">\n\nWhy does she always look like she’s singing the chorus to ‘Hallelujah’?",
">\n\nBut will she feel it? Also, she’s no Rosie the riveter, she’s too lazy, she’s rather lie than do the hard work of actually knocking on doors asking for votes. What a loser",
">\n\nShe’s trash",
">\n\nLet that be a lesson to the rest of the deniers.",
">\n\nPay up, Kari. You perpetrator of fraudulent claims, you! 😆",
">\n\nYou love to see it",
">\n\nD'oh!",
">\n\nLol clown car",
">\n\nGet fucked bozo",
">\n\nAye lmao",
">\n\nA stiff fine that her supporters will end up paying",
">\n\nrosie the riveter was a bad choice. kari’s no factory girl.",
">\n\nShe won't be able to change her Pat Benatar haircut.",
">\n\nI’m constantly baffled at how much lawyers can charge their clients.",
">\n\nGood",
">\n\nAt this point I'm half expecting her to try to sue the judge for this.",
">\n\nGet… rekt",
">\n\nChump change. Specially compared to the amount of publicity she gets out of it",
">\n\n*Cue Theme Music*",
">\n\nSucks to suck!",
">\n\nShe deserves a heart felt Nelson laugh.",
">\n\nShe should be forced to read the constitution for the first time in her life, aloud in the town square",
">\n\nShould have been the total of $700,000 that she wasted of the taxpayers money. Fucking corrupt judges.",
">\n\nHaha loser",
">\n\nIt should be several million for annoying the world with her sophomoric lies and histrionics.",
">\n\nRegarldess of political view, i think it's important to appreciate the fact that we have the freedom to challenge our government and the fact that we allow women to hold positions within government.\nYou might not like this particular person but we should remember that in some countries, a person would be executed for less.",
">\n\nWhat's with the picture caption?",
">\n\n/r/conservative still thinks she’s gonna win. Big mental gymnastics facility over there.",
">\n\nI bet she would look really cute in an orange jumpsuit"
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KYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.
Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.
British Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that "Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine."
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Impotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live | [
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preliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.
Nice work Ukraine! | [
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">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!"
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Ukraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not | [
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">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure."
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And all military targets too. | [
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">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not"
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Right after peace talks ?
So peace was never an option then 🤔 | [
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">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too."
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Russia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.
And I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon | [
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">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔"
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They’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that. | [
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">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon"
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Even better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload. | [
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">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that."
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Russia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes... | [
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">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload."
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Rushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we "have time " | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes..."
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Dear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \""
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Serious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne."
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It is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?"
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Oh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation."
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Making a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions."
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At what point do you start firing missies into Russia? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size."
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They have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?"
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do not smoke on bases | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly."
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Stop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas.
Fair is fair
They have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases"
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I’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border."
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Now what about the Florida problem? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem."
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Climate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?"
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Russia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc.
When can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida."
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Definitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though
Edited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?"
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Everything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious"
] |
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What do you call day 1? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1."
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I'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?"
] |
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I'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.
you're talking about several centuries ago. . . . | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border."
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I meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . ."
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Putin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically."
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You mean a alien fucked a fish | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey."
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I thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them
The land they claim is annexed. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish"
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Russia is a nazi terrorist regime.
The world needs to attack back in different ways, different | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed."
] |
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Ruzzia is a terrorist state. Wave after wave of missile and drone attacks aimed purely at civilian infrastructure. The world needs to recognize them for who they are.
Where are all the brave ruzzians who ran away abroad? Why aren't they protesting this war, now that they cannot be prosecuted for it?
We see ruzzia organize pro ruzzian marches in Germany. How about some anti putin and anti war demonstrations, started by ruzzian people abroad? Not a peep. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed.",
">\n\nRussia is a nazi terrorist regime. \nThe world needs to attack back in different ways, different"
] |
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Russian government are monsters! | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed.",
">\n\nRussia is a nazi terrorist regime. \nThe world needs to attack back in different ways, different",
">\n\nRuzzia is a terrorist state. Wave after wave of missile and drone attacks aimed purely at civilian infrastructure. The world needs to recognize them for who they are.\nWhere are all the brave ruzzians who ran away abroad? Why aren't they protesting this war, now that they cannot be prosecuted for it?\nWe see ruzzia organize pro ruzzian marches in Germany. How about some anti putin and anti war demonstrations, started by ruzzian people abroad? Not a peep."
] |
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Weren't orcz supposed to deplete their ammo stocplikes by now?
Who is supplying tthem? | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed.",
">\n\nRussia is a nazi terrorist regime. \nThe world needs to attack back in different ways, different",
">\n\nRuzzia is a terrorist state. Wave after wave of missile and drone attacks aimed purely at civilian infrastructure. The world needs to recognize them for who they are.\nWhere are all the brave ruzzians who ran away abroad? Why aren't they protesting this war, now that they cannot be prosecuted for it?\nWe see ruzzia organize pro ruzzian marches in Germany. How about some anti putin and anti war demonstrations, started by ruzzian people abroad? Not a peep.",
">\n\nRussian government are monsters!"
] |
>
When a report comes out stating that Russia is running out of PGMs specifically, (non precision weapons are not in short supply) take it in the context of Russia is approaching what would be considered a necessary reserve of weapons in case something happens.
Between what limited production Russia can maintain, ( Russia is expending weapons faster than they were making them pre-war), and their willingness to shave their reserves thinner and thinner, they can continue this for some time.
How long is that? Only Russia really knows depending on how they adapt to the war. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed.",
">\n\nRussia is a nazi terrorist regime. \nThe world needs to attack back in different ways, different",
">\n\nRuzzia is a terrorist state. Wave after wave of missile and drone attacks aimed purely at civilian infrastructure. The world needs to recognize them for who they are.\nWhere are all the brave ruzzians who ran away abroad? Why aren't they protesting this war, now that they cannot be prosecuted for it?\nWe see ruzzia organize pro ruzzian marches in Germany. How about some anti putin and anti war demonstrations, started by ruzzian people abroad? Not a peep.",
">\n\nRussian government are monsters!",
">\n\nWeren't orcz supposed to deplete their ammo stocplikes by now? \nWho is supplying tthem?"
] |
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So there are two great things about this.
78% were shot down, and nobody seems to have been killed.
Going from the serial numbers on the missiles themselves, these missiles are incredibly new. Which indicates that Russia have exhausted their readily available supply, and are currently playing catch up. Given it's a 4 month turn around for a batch of rockets, we may be seeing less and less strikes because Russia literally don't have the ammo.
Also, somewhat anecdotally, there are reports of quite a few missiles not blowing up on impact, which means that not only are Russia failing to meet demand, they're also producing these missiles to incredibly poor standards.
Remember last year when people were actually afraid of Russia? lmao. We had like, video games depicting them as a threat and stuff | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed.",
">\n\nRussia is a nazi terrorist regime. \nThe world needs to attack back in different ways, different",
">\n\nRuzzia is a terrorist state. Wave after wave of missile and drone attacks aimed purely at civilian infrastructure. The world needs to recognize them for who they are.\nWhere are all the brave ruzzians who ran away abroad? Why aren't they protesting this war, now that they cannot be prosecuted for it?\nWe see ruzzia organize pro ruzzian marches in Germany. How about some anti putin and anti war demonstrations, started by ruzzian people abroad? Not a peep.",
">\n\nRussian government are monsters!",
">\n\nWeren't orcz supposed to deplete their ammo stocplikes by now? \nWho is supplying tthem?",
">\n\nWhen a report comes out stating that Russia is running out of PGMs specifically, (non precision weapons are not in short supply) take it in the context of Russia is approaching what would be considered a necessary reserve of weapons in case something happens.\nBetween what limited production Russia can maintain, ( Russia is expending weapons faster than they were making them pre-war), and their willingness to shave their reserves thinner and thinner, they can continue this for some time. \nHow long is that? Only Russia really knows depending on how they adapt to the war."
] |
>
Remember last year when people were actually afraid of Russia? lmao. We had like, video games depicting them as a threat and stuff
Considering the pain they are causing the fear is still justified. Less perhaps for military might, but more so still for the immoral way to use whatever power they still have. Not to mention Russia still had nuclear weapons.
Let’s indeed not overestimate Russia, but also not underestimate them. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed.",
">\n\nRussia is a nazi terrorist regime. \nThe world needs to attack back in different ways, different",
">\n\nRuzzia is a terrorist state. Wave after wave of missile and drone attacks aimed purely at civilian infrastructure. The world needs to recognize them for who they are.\nWhere are all the brave ruzzians who ran away abroad? Why aren't they protesting this war, now that they cannot be prosecuted for it?\nWe see ruzzia organize pro ruzzian marches in Germany. How about some anti putin and anti war demonstrations, started by ruzzian people abroad? Not a peep.",
">\n\nRussian government are monsters!",
">\n\nWeren't orcz supposed to deplete their ammo stocplikes by now? \nWho is supplying tthem?",
">\n\nWhen a report comes out stating that Russia is running out of PGMs specifically, (non precision weapons are not in short supply) take it in the context of Russia is approaching what would be considered a necessary reserve of weapons in case something happens.\nBetween what limited production Russia can maintain, ( Russia is expending weapons faster than they were making them pre-war), and their willingness to shave their reserves thinner and thinner, they can continue this for some time. \nHow long is that? Only Russia really knows depending on how they adapt to the war.",
">\n\nSo there are two great things about this.\n\n78% were shot down, and nobody seems to have been killed. \nGoing from the serial numbers on the missiles themselves, these missiles are incredibly new. Which indicates that Russia have exhausted their readily available supply, and are currently playing catch up. Given it's a 4 month turn around for a batch of rockets, we may be seeing less and less strikes because Russia literally don't have the ammo.\n\nAlso, somewhat anecdotally, there are reports of quite a few missiles not blowing up on impact, which means that not only are Russia failing to meet demand, they're also producing these missiles to incredibly poor standards. \nRemember last year when people were actually afraid of Russia? lmao. We had like, video games depicting them as a threat and stuff"
] |
>
Ukraine will not be shelled into submission. Seeing the destruction of their homes will only strengthen their resolve. There is no “winning” scenario for Russia. The backfiring of everything Putin is doing is unlike anything we’ve ever seen. A mafia oligarchic state that fumbles it’s way into every conflict it’s been in. In WWI, Russia lost 50,000 soldiers in one day on a particular battle. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed.",
">\n\nRussia is a nazi terrorist regime. \nThe world needs to attack back in different ways, different",
">\n\nRuzzia is a terrorist state. Wave after wave of missile and drone attacks aimed purely at civilian infrastructure. The world needs to recognize them for who they are.\nWhere are all the brave ruzzians who ran away abroad? Why aren't they protesting this war, now that they cannot be prosecuted for it?\nWe see ruzzia organize pro ruzzian marches in Germany. How about some anti putin and anti war demonstrations, started by ruzzian people abroad? Not a peep.",
">\n\nRussian government are monsters!",
">\n\nWeren't orcz supposed to deplete their ammo stocplikes by now? \nWho is supplying tthem?",
">\n\nWhen a report comes out stating that Russia is running out of PGMs specifically, (non precision weapons are not in short supply) take it in the context of Russia is approaching what would be considered a necessary reserve of weapons in case something happens.\nBetween what limited production Russia can maintain, ( Russia is expending weapons faster than they were making them pre-war), and their willingness to shave their reserves thinner and thinner, they can continue this for some time. \nHow long is that? Only Russia really knows depending on how they adapt to the war.",
">\n\nSo there are two great things about this.\n\n78% were shot down, and nobody seems to have been killed. \nGoing from the serial numbers on the missiles themselves, these missiles are incredibly new. Which indicates that Russia have exhausted their readily available supply, and are currently playing catch up. Given it's a 4 month turn around for a batch of rockets, we may be seeing less and less strikes because Russia literally don't have the ammo.\n\nAlso, somewhat anecdotally, there are reports of quite a few missiles not blowing up on impact, which means that not only are Russia failing to meet demand, they're also producing these missiles to incredibly poor standards. \nRemember last year when people were actually afraid of Russia? lmao. We had like, video games depicting them as a threat and stuff",
">\n\n\nRemember last year when people were actually afraid of Russia? lmao. We had like, video games depicting them as a threat and stuff\n\nConsidering the pain they are causing the fear is still justified. Less perhaps for military might, but more so still for the immoral way to use whatever power they still have. Not to mention Russia still had nuclear weapons.\nLet’s indeed not overestimate Russia, but also not underestimate them."
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Hopefully, Karma will come into play. | [
"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed.",
">\n\nRussia is a nazi terrorist regime. \nThe world needs to attack back in different ways, different",
">\n\nRuzzia is a terrorist state. Wave after wave of missile and drone attacks aimed purely at civilian infrastructure. The world needs to recognize them for who they are.\nWhere are all the brave ruzzians who ran away abroad? Why aren't they protesting this war, now that they cannot be prosecuted for it?\nWe see ruzzia organize pro ruzzian marches in Germany. How about some anti putin and anti war demonstrations, started by ruzzian people abroad? Not a peep.",
">\n\nRussian government are monsters!",
">\n\nWeren't orcz supposed to deplete their ammo stocplikes by now? \nWho is supplying tthem?",
">\n\nWhen a report comes out stating that Russia is running out of PGMs specifically, (non precision weapons are not in short supply) take it in the context of Russia is approaching what would be considered a necessary reserve of weapons in case something happens.\nBetween what limited production Russia can maintain, ( Russia is expending weapons faster than they were making them pre-war), and their willingness to shave their reserves thinner and thinner, they can continue this for some time. \nHow long is that? Only Russia really knows depending on how they adapt to the war.",
">\n\nSo there are two great things about this.\n\n78% were shot down, and nobody seems to have been killed. \nGoing from the serial numbers on the missiles themselves, these missiles are incredibly new. Which indicates that Russia have exhausted their readily available supply, and are currently playing catch up. Given it's a 4 month turn around for a batch of rockets, we may be seeing less and less strikes because Russia literally don't have the ammo.\n\nAlso, somewhat anecdotally, there are reports of quite a few missiles not blowing up on impact, which means that not only are Russia failing to meet demand, they're also producing these missiles to incredibly poor standards. \nRemember last year when people were actually afraid of Russia? lmao. We had like, video games depicting them as a threat and stuff",
">\n\n\nRemember last year when people were actually afraid of Russia? lmao. We had like, video games depicting them as a threat and stuff\n\nConsidering the pain they are causing the fear is still justified. Less perhaps for military might, but more so still for the immoral way to use whatever power they still have. Not to mention Russia still had nuclear weapons.\nLet’s indeed not overestimate Russia, but also not underestimate them.",
">\n\nUkraine will not be shelled into submission. Seeing the destruction of their homes will only strengthen their resolve. There is no “winning” scenario for Russia. The backfiring of everything Putin is doing is unlike anything we’ve ever seen. A mafia oligarchic state that fumbles it’s way into every conflict it’s been in. In WWI, Russia lost 50,000 soldiers in one day on a particular battle."
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"This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 91%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nKYIV, Ukraine - Russian missiles hit Ukraine Thursday in the biggest wave of strikes in weeks, damaging power stations and other critical infrastructure during freezing winter weather.\nRussia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54, Ukrainian military chief Gen. Valerii Zaluzhnyi said.\nBritish Ambassador to Ukraine Melinda Simmons, commenting on the latest attack, said on Twitter that \"Russia does not want peace with Ukraine. Russia wants the subjugation of Ukraine.\"\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Russia^#1 Ukrainian^#2 Ukraine^#3 Russian^#4 missile^#5",
">\n\nImpotent flailing of a sick old man. Ukraine will stand far longer than Putin will live",
">\n\n\npreliminary reports showed Russia fired 69 missiles at energy facilities and Ukrainian forces shot down 54 of them. Several people were wounded, although there were no immediate reports of any deaths.\n\nNice work Ukraine!",
">\n\n78% shooting down rate is great. Doubt Russia could do as well if Ukraine started targetting Russian civilian infrastructure.",
">\n\nUkraine keeps blowing up things deep in Russia with by all accounts single drones so, probably not",
">\n\nAnd all military targets too.",
">\n\nRight after peace talks ?\nSo peace was never an option then 🤔",
">\n\nRussia is doing this in the hope that it forces Ukraine into talks.\nAnd I hope they are using their reserves to do this, so they might run out soon",
">\n\nThey’re launching nuclear capable ICBMs without nuclear payloads. They’re using their expensive toys out of desperation and pretending nobody knows that.",
">\n\nEven better (or worse, depending on perspective), they're launching their nuclear missiles with a dummy concrete payload.",
">\n\nRussia then accuses Ukraine of destroying their missile stockpile with their homes...",
">\n\nRushists geting Desperate. its like lavrov was bluffing when he said we \"have time \"",
">\n\nDear Ruzzia: desperation is a stinky cologne.",
">\n\nSerious question about military tactics: why do they spread out their attacks like that? is this an issue of logistics, or do they hope with every barrage that this will be enough already? or are they simply inept?",
">\n\nIt is likely that they expect attack coordinates to leak. If they have 1 target, the target will likely evacuate or beef up defenses in anticipation.",
">\n\nOh sorry - I meant, why do they spread out their attacks in time. Why not 1000 missiles at once? I guess it's just a matter of not enough transport capabilities, but I wanted to gather a few informed opinions.",
">\n\nMaking a semi-educated guess based on a lot of different stuff I've read. I'd assume it's a limit of their launch platforms. So far as I know, the missiles are mostly being fired from strategic bombers stationed far enough into Russia to be out of range of Ukraine's missile/drones. Vs being ground launched from just across the border like they were at the beginning of the conflict. There were only a few dozen of these in operation and can only fire a few missiles at once. So they create a bottleneck for attack size.",
">\n\nAt what point do you start firing missies into Russia?",
">\n\nThey have already launched explosive drones so deep into Russia they came within 20km of Moscow. The problem is Ukraine does not have the ability to make these very quickly.",
">\n\ndo not smoke on bases",
">\n\nStop launching from YOUR OWN COUNTRY. Ukraine has every right to invade you if you keep this up. seriously. If we popped mortars into mexico. I wouldn't blame them for stealing Texas. \nFair is fair \nThey have every right to eliminate the threat. Stop being little B/(#@$ and hiding behind your border.",
">\n\nI’m glad to hear that someone is thinking creatively about how to solve our Texas problem.",
">\n\nNow what about the Florida problem?",
">\n\nClimate change will take care of Florida. Have you seen the expected sea level rise? It pretty much obliterates Florida.",
">\n\nRussia is essentially firing money towards ukraine. We are hearing about sanctions, like europe not buying from gazprom etc. \nWhen can we expect russia to run out of missiles in a way that any more spending would be dangerous for their own safety? Can there even be an estimation?",
">\n\nDefinitely Ukraine that needs to quit being aggressive though\nEdited to add the /s since Reddit seems to think I was serious",
">\n\nEverything they've done has been defensive. Russia has been the aggressor since day 1.",
">\n\nWhat do you call day 1?",
">\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive. In this particular conflict, it was the day they started sharing troops on Ukraine border.",
">\n\n\nI'd say the first day Russia was aggressive.\n\nyou're talking about several centuries ago. . . .",
">\n\nI meant in this particular conflict towards ukraine. If you're gonna go back through history, NATO countries were also very aggressive. I'm talking about right now, and Ukraine/Russia specifically.",
">\n\nPutin looks like what happens when an alien fucked a monkey.",
">\n\nYou mean a alien fucked a fish",
">\n\nI thought russia was on verge of running out of supplies …. I guess not or this is a last gasp barrage in the hope it will trigger peace talks that give them\nThe land they claim is annexed.",
">\n\nRussia is a nazi terrorist regime. \nThe world needs to attack back in different ways, different",
">\n\nRuzzia is a terrorist state. Wave after wave of missile and drone attacks aimed purely at civilian infrastructure. The world needs to recognize them for who they are.\nWhere are all the brave ruzzians who ran away abroad? Why aren't they protesting this war, now that they cannot be prosecuted for it?\nWe see ruzzia organize pro ruzzian marches in Germany. How about some anti putin and anti war demonstrations, started by ruzzian people abroad? Not a peep.",
">\n\nRussian government are monsters!",
">\n\nWeren't orcz supposed to deplete their ammo stocplikes by now? \nWho is supplying tthem?",
">\n\nWhen a report comes out stating that Russia is running out of PGMs specifically, (non precision weapons are not in short supply) take it in the context of Russia is approaching what would be considered a necessary reserve of weapons in case something happens.\nBetween what limited production Russia can maintain, ( Russia is expending weapons faster than they were making them pre-war), and their willingness to shave their reserves thinner and thinner, they can continue this for some time. \nHow long is that? Only Russia really knows depending on how they adapt to the war.",
">\n\nSo there are two great things about this.\n\n78% were shot down, and nobody seems to have been killed. \nGoing from the serial numbers on the missiles themselves, these missiles are incredibly new. Which indicates that Russia have exhausted their readily available supply, and are currently playing catch up. Given it's a 4 month turn around for a batch of rockets, we may be seeing less and less strikes because Russia literally don't have the ammo.\n\nAlso, somewhat anecdotally, there are reports of quite a few missiles not blowing up on impact, which means that not only are Russia failing to meet demand, they're also producing these missiles to incredibly poor standards. \nRemember last year when people were actually afraid of Russia? lmao. We had like, video games depicting them as a threat and stuff",
">\n\n\nRemember last year when people were actually afraid of Russia? lmao. We had like, video games depicting them as a threat and stuff\n\nConsidering the pain they are causing the fear is still justified. Less perhaps for military might, but more so still for the immoral way to use whatever power they still have. Not to mention Russia still had nuclear weapons.\nLet’s indeed not overestimate Russia, but also not underestimate them.",
">\n\nUkraine will not be shelled into submission. Seeing the destruction of their homes will only strengthen their resolve. There is no “winning” scenario for Russia. The backfiring of everything Putin is doing is unlike anything we’ve ever seen. A mafia oligarchic state that fumbles it’s way into every conflict it’s been in. In WWI, Russia lost 50,000 soldiers in one day on a particular battle.",
">\n\nHopefully, Karma will come into play."
] |
Yes, "bipartisan" committee. Not many Republicans you can trust in handling Social Security these days. How many times have they ranted about privatizing it in the last decade? I lost count a long time ago. | [] |
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Create a problem and come up with the worst “fix” ever. Republican bullshit | [
"Yes, \"bipartisan\" committee. Not many Republicans you can trust in handling Social Security these days. How many times have they ranted about privatizing it in the last decade? I lost count a long time ago."
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"Yes, \"bipartisan\" committee. Not many Republicans you can trust in handling Social Security these days. How many times have they ranted about privatizing it in the last decade? I lost count a long time ago.",
">\n\nCreate a problem and come up with the worst “fix” ever. Republican bullshit"
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I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there. | [] |
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Salaries are higher though.
I have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston.
I don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.
I have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there."
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Salaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy."
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That’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more"
] |
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100K+ is literally "six figures or more". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably."
] |
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It does though "live comfortably" was part of his statement | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to"
] |
>
The thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement"
] |
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Interesting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere."
] |
>
Twilight fans, obviously. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax."
] |
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Moved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously."
] |
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If you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes."
] |
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Due to cost.
Places seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better."
] |
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Imma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain."
] |
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At least we can go outside during the summer. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa."
] |
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I grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer."
] |
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People need to stop moving to Maine. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible."
] |
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pretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already.
there is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc.
A lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine."
] |
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Grew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx."
] |
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The south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services). | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities."
] |
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I moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services)."
] |
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Fuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks."
] |
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I can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY.
The taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not.
That said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said."
] |
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Ah yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states."
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Connecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance."
] |
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In the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce.
Their beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own.
They're functionally pod people.
I basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas.
Because their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh.
(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you) | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation"
] |
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It's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)"
] |
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When you constantly "settle" you constantly get what you actually voted for.
And people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure.
I could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH"
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As a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise."
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Warm humid weather sucks.
I could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state."
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I'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast."
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Yeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do."
] |
>
Yep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money."
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its too fucking expensive
-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more."
] |
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I might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive"
] |
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It has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable."
] |
>
I wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it."
] |
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Too expensive and the roads suck | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different."
] |
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The site is boston.com bro | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck"
] |
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And here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro"
] |
>
For the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid."
] |
>
Interestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws."
] |
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The northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly. | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane."
] |
>
The flip is that we're typically #1 in every QoL metric.
Your taxes might be low in other states, but you're paying for it in other ways.
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Some sauce 💅 | [
"I would honestly be interested in living there, but there’s just no way I can afford the cost of living there.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher though. \nI have the best of both worlds, got a job in Boston but now work remote in a much more affordable area a little over an hour outside of Boston. \nI don't miss that commute at all though, sometimes it was over 2 hours each way with rush hour traffic.\nI have no idea how people can afford to live closer to the city. My house would easily cost 3-4x as much with way less land and privacy.",
">\n\nSalaries are higher because the cost of living is higher. It's very difficult to break even living and working in Boston unless you make six figures or more",
">\n\nThat’s not true though? Maybe for families, but my wife and I pull in ~100k+ combined, live in a small townhouse style home an 8min walk from a blue line stop, and live comfortably.",
">\n\n100K+ is literally \"six figures or more\". Your anecdote does not contradict what you're replying to",
">\n\nIt does though \"live comfortably\" was part of his statement",
">\n\nThe thumbnail pic of SLC got me! I was like huh that is NOT Boston, but tried to imagine mountains like that in the Northeast somewhere.",
">\n\nInteresting that Washington, where I live, is the only blue state in the top 10 states for numeric growth in population. I wonder if they’re wfh folks who’ve been attracted by no state income tax.",
">\n\nTwilight fans, obviously.",
">\n\nMoved from NC to MA six months before covid hit. Its expensive as fuuuuuuuuuuck but my wife and i make around 3 times what we did back in NC and have substantially better workers and renters rights. Fair trade in my eyes.",
">\n\nIf you ever need a doctor, the medical care is much better.",
">\n\nDue to cost. \nPlaces seeing rapid growth are also forecast to be hit harder and harder by weather or lack of rain.",
">\n\nImma do my best to stay in the north east. We really looking a lot better than most of the US, outside states like Iowa.",
">\n\nAt least we can go outside during the summer.",
">\n\nI grew up in MA and left for Washington state and didn’t move back. That was 20 years ago. The biggest difference in my mind is that Washington plans for growth, ie new housing,whereas MA and the rest of New England restrict it as much as possible. So the bang for your buck in MA vs WA is terrible.",
">\n\nPeople need to stop moving to Maine.",
">\n\npretty sure this is going to start to reverse in coming years if it hasn't begun already. \nthere is a lot to be said for high property taxes if they provide good schools, roads etc. \nA lot of what I see in the south (NC+GA) is zero infrastructure investment, over-inflated housing prices and resentment of school budgets....can't speak for Fla and Tx.",
">\n\nGrew up in Philly, currently in Austin TX and planning to move back to the East in the next five years. Cost of living and Property Taxes are high here and the way school funding is set up a huge chunk of my money doesn’t go to the local schools. I have two tween/teen daughters, one of them LGBTQ, and I predict an exodus of more progressive families like me out of the higher COL southern cities.",
">\n\nThe south will start to have some of the same issues the northeast has. The big cities cant/wont build fast enough to keep prices low. The long term infrastructure bill always comes due at some point (and without rapid population growth the only way to pay for it is to up taxes or allow degraded services).",
">\n\nI moved from NY to FL for a few years. Was it nice not having state income tax? Indeed. But my property insurance was as much as my property tax here, traffic was goddamn miserable, and the summer heat is oppressive. Not to mention like 1 out of 4 drivers is uninsured and that was also expensive as hell. I'll stick with WNY, thanks.",
">\n\nFuck Florida in case that wasn't clear enough for you. Hot, humid, giant man-eating lizards. Nuff said.",
">\n\nI can’t speak for NJ or PA, but can definitely understand the exodus from NY. \nThe taxes and general cost of living is just ridiculous and seemingly only getting worse. My general area’s property taxes are around the $12-14k mark, with $5-6k going to school taxes alone. Based on those numbers, you’d think the area would be somewhat amazing, but it’s really not. \nThat said, nothing would get me to move to states like Florida or Texas, or really most of the southern states.",
">\n\nAh yes, Texas -- the land of tolerance.",
">\n\nConnecticut has some of the most racist cops in the nation",
">\n\nIn the world view of the typical left of center social media user whose nose is lead around by the zeitgeist promulgated by other people they really can't actually think beyond slogans and ideas they were taught and either offer snark or weak sauce. \nTheir beliefs are standardized products that they never realize that they bought rather than developed on their own. \nThey're functionally pod people. \nI basically offered a nuanced explanation of how I moved to an excellent place in Texas that would otherwise plink the dopamine receptors of NE liberals (diversity!, low crime, ready access to a major urban center, amazing schools) but because it is in Texas it is shut down mentally. It can't be good. It is Texas. I literally spell out that I'm not a Conservative (actually a SocDem) and that my vote might in some small tiny way help in the eventual purple shift of Texas. Nope, it is Texas. \nBecause their programming won't allow the nuance to enter their heads and start the process of cognitive dissonance. It isn't that they're stupid, it's that they're still in the cave and wouldn't dream of coming out. I believe something similar about most politically engaged Americans tbh. \n(Yeah NE cops can be brutal like cops anywhere I upvoted you)",
">\n\nIt's crazy how polarized the debate is these days. Someone recently told me on Reddit that they know Biden is a racist but If I don't vote for him again that I'm enabling fascism. I was like.... HUH",
">\n\nWhen you constantly \"settle\" you constantly get what you actually voted for. \nAnd people either need to accept that or they need to demand more from politicians up to and including withholding their vote as a final measure. \nI could see the need to sometimes strategically vote in extreme situations but once you start doing that forever you eventually start to mold your beliefs to your compromise.",
">\n\nAs a former Salem Mass resident, the winters are bruuuutal. I didn’t last more than two years until I left for a warmer state.",
">\n\nWarm humid weather sucks. \nI could deal with dry desert heat in the southwest but you couldn't pay me to move from New England to Florida or anywhere else in the southeast.",
">\n\nI'm the exact opposite, the heat is terrible. I can always bundle up more, even inside. When it gets too hot, there's little you can do.",
">\n\nYeah, put it this way, I can sleep just fine in cold environments (bundled up) but can't sleep in hot humid environments without AC which costs money.",
">\n\nYep. Also having worked well below zero, and having to wear PPE in 112', humid, heat in a greenhouse, 100% cold. Most people I know who've worked both prefer the cold, it's not as debilitating as the heat and you can still keep warm. When the A/C goes off in the summer, there's nothing you can do. When it's cold, just work harder, wear more, eat more.",
">\n\nits too fucking expensive\n-from someone who moved out because its too fucking expensive",
">\n\nI might consider moving up there when climate change makes the south and west unlivable and upgrades northern winters to bearable.",
">\n\nIt has it's issues for sure, but the West is becoming a desert, the South is a Republican garbage pit, and the Midwest is the Midwest. The Northeast is for those that can brave it.",
">\n\nI wonder if people who move cross-country are particularly representative of the general population or if they are different.",
">\n\nToo expensive and the roads suck",
">\n\nThe site is boston.com bro",
">\n\nAnd here I thought it was for the hurricanes and fragile electric grid.",
">\n\nFor the right to not have a choice and harsh weed laws.",
">\n\nInterestingly that the majority of these states mentioned are among those that have the highest taxation rate, and/or blue states. The property tax rates alone in New York, New Jersey are insane.",
">\n\nThe northeast is generally blue and high tax. No anomaly."
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