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[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea..." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters..." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\"." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ..." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you.", ">\n\nYes, they are pushing for stronger misogynist anti-abortion laws and consequences. They do not want to learn." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you.", ">\n\nYes, they are pushing for stronger misogynist anti-abortion laws and consequences. They do not want to learn.", ">\n\nThey are just going to avoid talking about it. That’s the only change." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you.", ">\n\nYes, they are pushing for stronger misogynist anti-abortion laws and consequences. They do not want to learn.", ">\n\nThey are just going to avoid talking about it. That’s the only change.", ">\n\nIf anyone’s reading this, if you’re not voting, you’re allowing things to continue in their projection where it might not be where you want it to be in the future." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you.", ">\n\nYes, they are pushing for stronger misogynist anti-abortion laws and consequences. They do not want to learn.", ">\n\nThey are just going to avoid talking about it. That’s the only change.", ">\n\nIf anyone’s reading this, if you’re not voting, you’re allowing things to continue in their projection where it might not be where you want it to be in the future.", ">\n\nLet me guess. Same policy, but less talking about it." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you.", ">\n\nYes, they are pushing for stronger misogynist anti-abortion laws and consequences. They do not want to learn.", ">\n\nThey are just going to avoid talking about it. That’s the only change.", ">\n\nIf anyone’s reading this, if you’re not voting, you’re allowing things to continue in their projection where it might not be where you want it to be in the future.", ">\n\nLet me guess. Same policy, but less talking about it.", ">\n\nYou are about to see how flexible Republicans can be with their positions on issues." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you.", ">\n\nYes, they are pushing for stronger misogynist anti-abortion laws and consequences. They do not want to learn.", ">\n\nThey are just going to avoid talking about it. That’s the only change.", ">\n\nIf anyone’s reading this, if you’re not voting, you’re allowing things to continue in their projection where it might not be where you want it to be in the future.", ">\n\nLet me guess. Same policy, but less talking about it.", ">\n\nYou are about to see how flexible Republicans can be with their positions on issues.", ">\n\nThere's nothing to rethink. They've already won the case. They don't have to do anything and they still get their way." ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you.", ">\n\nYes, they are pushing for stronger misogynist anti-abortion laws and consequences. They do not want to learn.", ">\n\nThey are just going to avoid talking about it. That’s the only change.", ">\n\nIf anyone’s reading this, if you’re not voting, you’re allowing things to continue in their projection where it might not be where you want it to be in the future.", ">\n\nLet me guess. Same policy, but less talking about it.", ">\n\nYou are about to see how flexible Republicans can be with their positions on issues.", ">\n\nThere's nothing to rethink. They've already won the case. They don't have to do anything and they still get their way.", ">\n\nBut wait, will someone think of the children…" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you.", ">\n\nYes, they are pushing for stronger misogynist anti-abortion laws and consequences. They do not want to learn.", ">\n\nThey are just going to avoid talking about it. That’s the only change.", ">\n\nIf anyone’s reading this, if you’re not voting, you’re allowing things to continue in their projection where it might not be where you want it to be in the future.", ">\n\nLet me guess. Same policy, but less talking about it.", ">\n\nYou are about to see how flexible Republicans can be with their positions on issues.", ">\n\nThere's nothing to rethink. They've already won the case. They don't have to do anything and they still get their way.", ">\n\nBut wait, will someone think of the children…", ">\n\nOperative word….. Think" ]

[ "Those midterms were not bruising enough.", ">\n\nNo they weren't, many were razor-thin margins. It's a damn good thing that the GOP is a hair better than the Dems at shooting themselves in the foot.", ">\n\nThe thing about that is, by several measures, the republicans should’ve swept congress up. Between the gerrymandering, ownership of many crucial roles in state governments, and the midterm schlacking every dem pres seems to receive after their first two years, the fact that they didn’t even fully take congress, even if by razor thin margins, is a disaster for them.", ">\n\nYa if it's even close to the same environment in 2024 they are fucked and they know it because a new voting rights act will destroy all their gerrymandering.", ">\n\nWouldn't the House (and Senate, but the House'll be held by the GOP) need to pass a new voting rights act? Or did they pass one and I missed it?", ">\n\nAs I recall, the House tried by passing it and it died in the Senate.", ">\n\nThe House will deliberately pass bills knowing the Senate won't pass them. Too many corporate shills in Congress. If it weren't for Biden getting on their asses all the time they wouldn't have passed ANYTHING.", ">\n\nThe only thing the House is planning to do for the next two years is attack Biden. Because somehow that'll lower inflation and crime. 🤷‍♂️ The WH is already hiring lawyers in preparation that's how little of a secret it is.", ">\n\nStrategy??\n\"The people don't want to ban abortions\"\n\"I know, but how do we make them THINK they want to ban abortions?\"", ">\n\nInvent terms like “partial birth abortion,” and pretend they’re commonly used by irresponsible hussies and evil devil worshiping democrats and ignore the fact that they’re one of the rarest forms of abortion that’s almost exclusively performed when a woman’s life is in danger or the fetus is no longer viable. It’s actually an effective strategy to get votes. The problem is when you get enough votes to create change, the change reveals the lie.", ">\n\nGo further, actually. Keep spreading stories about “a new law” democrats are trying to pass that allows children up to X months after birth to be killed.\nWatched that one happen in my family idk how many times at this point.\n“No literally no one wants that what the fuck?” They don’t care. It validates their hate of dems.", ">\n\nHow is it that the same argument in the opposite direction does not work ?\n\"You want to force women to marry their rappist.\"\n\"You prefer that a woman dies because her foetus has a medical condition than abort her. It is just murder at this point.\"", ">\n\nRepublicans are good at victim blaming. The replies to your questions would be\n\"What was she wearing?\"\nAnd\n\"Should have kept her legs closed.\"", ">\n\nTrue. Sad though.", ">\n\nMinding their own business would be a good strategy.", ">\n\nThey’re incapable of this.", ">\n\nHow does one classify a \"deeply held moral or religious belief\" as something that can be altered for strategic use...\n...l mean, unless of course it ISN'T a deeply held moral or religious belief by the person making the claim.\nI'm sure that's just me being cynical on acold Thursday morning and not at all the modus operandi of Republican politicians.", ">\n\nI find it interesting that this party has a greater hand in creating the welfare state it so heavily rejects by floating legislation and political agendas that encourage the birth of more unwanted children.\nGuess it's God's Will™!", ">\n\nThey don't dislike welfare, they dislike having to give welfare money to poor people. They will happily spend it on all kinds of things including giving it to a rich former NFL player to build a volleyball stadium for his daughter.\nThere is an ongoing effort on the part of republicans to switch to a Block Grant approach for welfare. As it currently stands the Federal Government has rules on how it can be spent. Republicans claim the rules don't allow for the states to craft spending on local needs...which is really just code for \"we would like to decide how to spend the money wealthier states are giving us for our poor without any pesky oversight, but you can totally trust that we will spend your money on only the very needy it is intended for because that is currently what we do...even though we don't.\"", ">\n\nWelfare should go to poor people. Full stop.\n'financial support given to those in need.' is the textbook definition. I know the Rs wont abide by that since they live in a whole other reality or whatever.", ">\n\nA rising tide lifts all boats. \nHelping people out of poverty means more educated people, more healthy and successful children, more money going into the economy. It means people get a chance to reach their potential and do good for others through a career they might not have been able to access, for instance. Welfare and other social safety nets benefit our whole population.", ">\n\nIf you have an ectopic pregnancy in Tennessee right now they will literally let you die in your hospital bed. Unless you can make it to Illinois in time to be successfully treated it is a death sentence. And Republicans think this is a \"messaging\" problem.", ">\n\nThe messaging problem is the one where they fail to listen to reason.", ">\n\nThere is a branch within the conservative movement rejects the enlightenment and liberal values, so yes, there are those that literally reject reason in order to embrace faith.", ">\n\n“Republicans think about lying about their stances on abortion to try to appeal to citizens now that they got what they wanted from scotus”\nThis is like claiming that the reconstruction era was filled with confederates trying to right their wrongs", ">\n\n\nRepublicans are recalibrating their messaging on abortion...\n\nNo, they don't get to rethink something that's already been implemented. The damage is done and the Republican's did it. The women who's lives have been drastically changed due to the Republican's wedge issue cannot recalibrate. \nRepublican's have demonstrated they want to legislate women's bodies, our bedrooms, and our relationships according to the rules they pick and choose from their bronze age religion. They will govern us back to the 1600s with their push for an American theocracy; that is who they are.", ">\n\nIt's already their brand.\nThey can't abort it.", ">\n\nBest strategy? Their best strategy now is hoping the Dems screw up so bad, Dems don't vote. The GOP overplayed their hand. When you trigger the youth vote, you done messed up. They'll never get those voters as they age, at least not easily.", ">\n\nI think the subtle, very good shift that has occurred in the general public's mind is that Republicans went from the stability guys to the instability guys, and there's simply no way of fixing it without reducing the Republican Party to just George Will, more or less.", ">\n\nYea, they definitely got over confident that no matter what they do, they'll win and voters don't care. They really doubled down on the being an unapologetic asshole routine that that's all people associate them with, not policy, not family values, and definitely not stability. \nThey have major hurdles with that aging base and the fact that other minority groups aren't shifting over in droves.", ">\n\nWho'd have thunk that saying 10-year-old rape victims should be thankful for the blessing of having to not only give birth to but raise their rapists baby, women suffering from non-viable, life-threatening pregnancies can die, and that the answer to abortion is forcing more women to give birth so that affluent families will have babies to adopt isn't a winning strategy.\nRemember right after the Dobbs decision, when the entire Republican party gleefully entered the race to the bottom of just how cruel the party can be by trying to top each other with ideas of how to speedrun their way to the handmaid's tale? \nNext year when those same Republicans suddenly become a lot more moderate on abortion, the mass media needs to dig up those clips of them cheering on the idea of 10-year-olds being forced to give birth and cram it right down their throats.\nI know it won't happen. It should, but it won't. A man can dream, right?", ">\n\nDesantis is aiming for a full 6 week abortion ban without exception for rape or incest. \nThey are going to go much further. \nThey are going to go after birth control and title 9.", ">\n\nThey're Republicans. They will double and triple down, they can't help themselves.", ">\n\nThey will do what it takes to get elected", ">\n\nBut that's the thing\nA significant portion of their voters have banning abortion as their #1 goal. If Republicans back off, those voters won't be Dems, they'll just not vote.\nRepublicans are a very loose coalition of a lot of people that care about one or two issues and almost nothing else.\nThat's why the party is like a dog chasing a car. They're fine as long as the car is moving. But when it stops and the dog \"catches\" it, the dog has no fucking clue what to do.", ">\n\n“It was probably a bigger factor than a lot of people thought,” McDaniel said in an interview earlier this month with radio talk show host John Catsimatidis. “We’ve got to get conversant on that.”\nConversant = come up with better lies, get elected, and continue to increase restrictions on abortion.", ">\n\nIt's our personal rights that the \"Big Government GOP doesn't get. Stay out of our bedroom, stay out of our bodies and stay away from telling us who we can love. Stop the constant lying to us. Stop supporting Fascist Authoritarian leaders.", ">\n\nWell, clearly the issue is women voting, so they will probably set their sights on repealing women's suffrage next. \n/s, but not really.", ">\n\nSounds like they are trying to come up with creative phrases and sound bites to fool independent voters who support abortion rights into thinking they really arent trying to ban ALL abortion. See? They left in a 3 week eye-of-a-needle exception for under 10 year olds who get raped by a family member.", ">\n\nNon family members.\nIf its the weirdo uncle expect to carry that child", ">\n\nThey don't really care about abortions or any of this bullshit, power, money and votes are all they care about period.", ">\n\nConservative are really out of step on this issue ...its to late", ">\n\nRepublicans stand for nothing and their voters fall for everything.", ">\n\nNot so fast….consistently changing your hard stance on what you thought would get you votes after finding out it does the opposite, that’s a big NO. Republicans want power - period. They stand for NOTHING", ">\n\nHaven't heard them pushing the whole \"post-birth abortion\" thing in a while. Guess they finally figured out that murder is already illegal in every state?", ">\n\nThe only strategy republicans know is to double down", ">\n\nSo their strategy will be to push the unpopular topic even harder.", ">\n\nLike Democrats and gun control, which caused the loss of the House.", ">\n\nNot when you read the actual questions and look at the data. Democrats need rural Democrats to vote to maintain control and win elections. Its a group thats largely pro-gun and distrusts Democrats when it comes to gun control legislation. They are also primarily single issue voters when it comes to guns.\nLook at the history of lost elections from 1994's assault weapons ban and the tide of blue states turning red. Recently both Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.", ">\n\n\nboth Beto and Abrams lost their race due to their stance on firearms, and New York lost several House seats flipping control to Republicans.\n\nThere is no proof that those were due to stances on firearms. Warnock is also pro gun control. I do not think that any Dem has a chance in Texas, regardless of gun control stance. Abrams was unfortunately just not a great candidate, though she is great at other stuff like GOTV. \nDems had a historically good midterm. It is almost always a huge swing towards the party who does not hold the presidency. And considering inflation and gas prices it was especially good to only lose a few seats. Especially given how redistricting was abused by red states and states like NY were forced to use fair maps. \nRural districts generally aren't going to go to Dems no matter what. It's a good idea for Dems in those districts to be soft on gun control like Golden and Schrader are but as for the overall party message it gets them votes. There is a ton of anger in America over all the gun violence. \nI'm actually not for gun bans myself but voters approve of it overall.", ">\n\nAbrams called for banning all semiautomatic firearms in Georgia, and Beto doubled down on his assault weapons ban AR-15 confiscation statements in Texas. These two positions had an incredible amount of influence on peoples opinions, pretending that they did not involves a heavy dose of denial.\nWarnock ran against an absolute imbecile...the man has severe brain damage...And he still almost lost, barely winning.\nRural Democrats dont vote because Democrats push gun control. It does not matter what the Democrats in those districts push, all Democrats are guilty by association and rural Democratic voters typically stay home. If Democrats just dropped gun control entirely and built up trust with the voters then you would see better results at the polls.\nGun violence is a socioeconomic problem far more than it is an issue with firearm ownership. You want to address gun violence, then tackle income inequality and how media reports on gun violence and mass shootings. But that doesnt meet the need of politicians who want to use gun violence as a wedge issue. Neither Republicans or Democrats are truly interested in addressing disparity of wealth distribution in our society. Because that means their rich donors would be adversely affected.\nRunning on gun bans just means Democrats hand power to Republicans indefinitely.", ">\n\nThis is literally all just opinion on your part. Something like 66% of the nation wants stricter gun laws so saying that running on stricter gun laws is the cause when any Dem loses is pretty flawed reasoning. \nI'm aware that a lot of rural citizens do not want gun bans but there is no evidence to say that they'd vote for Dems if Dems dropped the issue. I mean maybe a bunch of urban voters would vote (R) if Dems dropped the gun control issue. Literally just 1% of poll respondents said gun control was their top issue anyway.", ">\n\nYeah your problem is that most people do not want far reaching assault weapon bans. Democrats cant clearly define what an assault weapon actually is. When the question is asked what those stricter gun laws are there are a varied responses. And when asked who they trust to pass that legislation, its not Democrats.\nIn order to win elections Democrats need the rural vote, polls are not being conducted asking the appropriate questions because they are not being paid to. I dont know what to say about that. You can see the results in the election outcomes, again you can choose to ignore the blatantly obvioius if you want.\nBut we are all going to see the Democratic party crash and burn real soon because it is quite obvious what the Democratic strategy is, and its obvious it is not changing. There is no sense in me arguing with you about it. 2024 is coming up real fast, Democratic states are going to lean hard on gun control and it will bite them in the ass. Just like running Biden as a presidential candidate in his 80s being a horrible idea...", ">\n\nFuck you Susan Collins.", ">\n\nThey really have no clue how to govern. The dam laptop is not what we care about.", ">\n\nI had intense stomach cramps last month and they made me wait to get a pregnancy test to administer pain meds for it. Fuck all the way off. Damage is done.", ">\n\nRethink.....Ya think? :-)", ">\n\n“There's 14 seditionists that got re-elected,” Rep Jordan said. All of the conspirators laughed. Gym quickly added: “Swear to God.”\nSpeaker McCarthy instructed his seditionist lieutenants to make the conversation public, saying: “More leaks. . . . shit we just need another fucking insurrection !”\nEdit: parody of an actual conversation", ">\n\n\nBut anti-abortion advocates say it’s important to have someone like DeSantis, who is growing his national profile and his standing in 2024 polls every day.\n\nYes, that sounds just fantastic.", ">\n\nI dont understand how republicans like my father, and others fall for these grifters...", ">\n\nGood thing they poisoned a whole generation against them", ">\n\nNew strategy: lie harder.", ">\n\nSure, they will rethink their strategy, but not their stance. \"Voters did not like our delivery\" is all that they learned from the midterms. They voted \"no\" on abortion bans? That must be because we did not sell it to them the right way!", ">\n\nThe Republican Party platform has featured strong “right to life” language for decades. They are going to have to wear that albatross. If they try to eliminate or soften that language, they lose all the fundies, which would fantastic.\nThe dog caught the car.", ">\n\nForgive me for mangling the metaphor, but what if Moore V. Harper turns the dog into Krypto the superdog and it drags the car back hundreds of years?", ">\n\nI’m investing my energy into hoping it doesn’t happen.", ">\n\nIf hoping it doesn't happen worked, we wouldn't have had a trump presidency where he got to appoint 3 supreme court judges.", ">\n\nI hope and I vote.", ">\n\nRepublicans: Let's run on extremely unpopular policies in battle ground states!\nRepublicans: Yeah!\n*Loses*\nRepublicans: ???", ">\n\nRepublicans: Lets put abortion rights back to the states.\nRepublicans: Good idea. That'll put it to the Libs.\nConservative Leaning States: Nah, we want women to have access to abortions to save the mother when her life is in danger due to a failed pregnancy.\nAlso Republicans: No! That's not what we want!", ">\n\nYou don’t bring yourself back from extremism\nEven if you condemn and excise Trump to MTG from your party, you don’t just come back from what you’ve done", ">\n\nI got $20 bet on they'll go for the Double Down strategy.", ">\n\nLooking at that article, it doesn't seem like they're rethinking it very well. They're still out to lunch.\nThe party of sexism underestimates women, who woulda thunk it.", ">\n\nSo vehemently firm their beliefs until they lose.", ">\n\nThey can't drop being anti-abortion, they used it to fire up their base and now anti-abortion is an undeniable part of what the GOP is.", ">\n\nChristian theocracy is their dream - implementing Christian law into the US. Anti-American. No freedom of religion from those traitors. Anti-Constitution in so many ways (to the level of supporting and assisting the overthrow of our elections based on LIES from their fraud God Emperor Trump). \nRepublican Party should be tried for treason and barred from elections.", ">\n\nIs it a strategy or a value? Those aren’t exactly synonymous", ">\n\nThey’d be smart to…uh…abort… their current strategy.\nUnfortunately they have gotten in bed with the religious right, and if they piss those folks off, then their already dwindling base will grow even smaller and the insanity from the lunatic fringe will grow even louder.", ">\n\nEven in their insanity, republicans grasp that this was the worst midterm performance in 50 years.\nWill they pull their heads out of their asses? Possibly just enough to see with one eye.", ">\n\nOh I'm sorry. Dose insane forced births and death penalty for mothers that feared for their lives not win you elections", ">\n\nCheat harder. -GQP", ">\n\nI found it really interesting that in MI they attacked prop 3 as \"confusing\" rather than thier 50 year old lines of attack based around \"life\".", ">\n\nthe damage is done", ">\n\nBut the GOP's default position these days is 'as crazy cruel as we can be'.", ">\n\nHuh, who would have thought that going against what like 70% of voters want would be an unpopular strategy? Literally nobody could have seen that coming.", ">\n\nRepublicans don't care about the sanctity of life, just the sanctity of power.", ">\n\nI've seen this movie already.\nAfter Romney got his ass handed to him, a public Republican post-mortem identified that they needed to be less xenophobic to embrace hispanic voters, and we saw that with all the forced Spanish during the 2016 republican primaries. Then Trump doubled down.\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.", ">\n\n\nWe will see sensible republicans calling for changing up their abortion stance, and then they will nominate someone who wants to lock up all women who ever had an abortion.\n\nHmm...\n(googles Ron DeSantis Abortion)\nYep.", ">\n\nExcuse me, they saw the numbers and did it anyway. Idiots.", ">\n\nHow about no strategy about it all and minding their business? Let women decide what they want to do with their bodies.", ">\n\nIt's such a beautiful catch 22 for the GOP. \nThey remain pro-life, their more secular voting block won't for them.\nThey step back from being pro-life, their more fundamentalist voting block won't vote for them.\nI really hope we're nearing the end of this issue that shouldn't even be a debate anymore in 2023.", ">\n\nThey don't really need to do much more. They packed the 5th and 11th circuits, and SCOTUS with Zealots, and just need to stand back and watch as Texas and Florida push through cases that result in Nationwide Bans on Abortions, Contraceptives, Gender Affirming Care, and many other soon to be former rights.", ">\n\nIs this like how they rethought being racist after Obama won, then said 'fuck it' and doubled down?", ">\n\nDon't let them just be quite about abortions, the did the deed, the outlawed abortions in big parts of the country and teared the door out to allow more anti-abortion laws.\nDon't let them pretend that they didn't", ">\n\nThey are not \"rethinking\" anything. Just sounds like they're going to use the word \"EXTREME\" when labeling Pro-Choice Democrats. Heck, a TX judge is chiseling away at contraception:\n​\nA former lawyer at a religious conservative litigation shop, Kacsmaryk denounced, in a 2015 article, a so-called “Sexual Revolution” that began in the 1960s and 1970s, and which “sought public affirmation of the lie that the human person is an autonomous blob of Silly Putty unconstrained by nature or biology, and that marriage, sexuality, gender identity, and even the unborn child must yield to the erotic desires of liberated adults.”\n... \nKacsmaryk issued an opinion in Deanda v. Becerra that attacks Title X, a federal program that offers grants to health providers that fund voluntary and confidential family planning services to patients. Federal law requires the Title X program to include “services for adolescents,”\nThe plaintiff in Deanda is a father who says he is “raising each of his daughters in accordance with Christian teaching on matters of sexuality, which requires unmarried children to practice abstinence and refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage.”\nTrump Judge Goes After Birth Control\nI am sure that the GOP is cheering this on.", ">\n\nIf you're having a rethink about how or when or where you're going to try re-criminalizing reproductive self-determination for >50% of the population, ...", ">\n\nLol Republicans don’t rethink anything", ">\n\nNah. The Republicans are who they are. They've said this in the past, turned around and did the opposite to appease their evangelical base, then fail again. Rinse and repeat.\nThey will never ever learn because they have been held to zero accountability.", ">\n\nThey need to start lying again.\nJust straight saying they want to ban abortion won't work.", ">\n\nNew strategy: what if we force women to wear cloth bags and only go out with a male guardian? 🤔", ">\n\nI'm glad someone's private reproductive business is a \"political strategy.\"", ">\n\nIt’s still extremely depressing they got the amount of votes they did and people like Greene and Boebert and Abbott were STILL re-elected.", ">\n\nI wish the Democrats would learn this kind of lesson as well. If the Democrats stopped using gun control as a pillar of their platform they would win a lot more elections.", ">\n\nAs an urban liberal it pains me to say that you're right. I went to graduate school in a rural area and it opened my eyes to the fact that a lot of people in outskirts/rural areas need to own guns because there houses are so far apart that no neighbor would hear your screams or see a car pull up to your house at night. The fear and paranoia to protect your family from your \"crazy cousin\" or your \"wife's ex husband\" makes me understand why even democrats own just as many guns as Republicans in many parts of the country. Or city/suburban bias of growing up and living in places with robust law enforcement and responders within minutes needs to be considered.", ">\n\nStrategy? Rethink? Lmao", ">\n\nNarrator: \"No, they dont...\"", ">\n\nThere will be massive amounts of propaganda aimed at young people glorifying teenage and unplanned pregnancy. It's already on tiktok.", ">\n\nnope", ">\n\nDo they not understand there is no middle ground to be had in this debate. No option they want provides proper medical care to women having issues, no option has usable exceptions, and most importantly and I can't stress this enough but I would have figured the last 100 years of Americans saying to gtfo of our bedroom would have been a hint at the direction the country is demanding we go.", ">\n\nHorseshit. Republicans have been fighting to block abortion for nearly 50 years. They would gladly take one middling midterm result to overturn Roe v Wade... and they did. Also, they didn't do that badly... it's not like Democrats rode a sweeping pro-choice landslide here, practically every race was like 51% to 49%.", ">\n\nSurprise Surprise, you strip the rights from everyone who fought to get them as well as whole generations that have never known a time without those rights, and they vote against you.", ">\n\nYes, they are pushing for stronger misogynist anti-abortion laws and consequences. They do not want to learn.", ">\n\nThey are just going to avoid talking about it. That’s the only change.", ">\n\nIf anyone’s reading this, if you’re not voting, you’re allowing things to continue in their projection where it might not be where you want it to be in the future.", ">\n\nLet me guess. Same policy, but less talking about it.", ">\n\nYou are about to see how flexible Republicans can be with their positions on issues.", ">\n\nThere's nothing to rethink. They've already won the case. They don't have to do anything and they still get their way.", ">\n\nBut wait, will someone think of the children…", ">\n\nOperative word….. Think", ">\n\nJust to be clear…they’re rethinking the strategy, not the policy.\nLike the problem was the rollout…." ]

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[ "Just like when they said they didnt transfer drones to russia?" ]

[ "Just like when they said they didnt transfer drones to russia?", ">\n\nWhat else would one expect from a nationwide all-powerful fanatically religious dictator?" ]

[ "Just like when they said they didnt transfer drones to russia?", ">\n\nWhat else would one expect from a nationwide all-powerful fanatically religious dictator?", ">\n\nBut secretly they were delivered 2 weeks ago" ]

[ "Just like when they said they didnt transfer drones to russia?", ">\n\nWhat else would one expect from a nationwide all-powerful fanatically religious dictator?", ">\n\nBut secretly they were delivered 2 weeks ago", ">\n\nThey need them to relent their own people." ]

[ "Just like when they said they didnt transfer drones to russia?", ">\n\nWhat else would one expect from a nationwide all-powerful fanatically religious dictator?", ">\n\nBut secretly they were delivered 2 weeks ago", ">\n\nThey need them to relent their own people.", ">\n\nI seem to recall reading somewhere that Israel threatened to bomb the snot out of Iranian airfields if they see Iran giving weapons to Russia. Could this decision be because of the threat from the Israelis?" ]

[ "Just like when they said they didnt transfer drones to russia?", ">\n\nWhat else would one expect from a nationwide all-powerful fanatically religious dictator?", ">\n\nBut secretly they were delivered 2 weeks ago", ">\n\nThey need them to relent their own people.", ">\n\nI seem to recall reading somewhere that Israel threatened to bomb the snot out of Iranian airfields if they see Iran giving weapons to Russia. Could this decision be because of the threat from the Israelis?", ">\n\nNo of course not, they can never admit that Israel is real (get it? IS RAEL IS REAL)" ]