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> I suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath.." ]
> This was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. They didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. Another big fat L for those crazy people.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me." ]
> Hold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people." ]
> After all they all "do the research"...
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right." ]
> Perhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"..." ]
> Next up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit..." ]
> People vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!" ]
> I wonder how each Justice voted???
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies" ]
> They didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl "FUCK NO!" on the first page and throw it out the window.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???" ]
> How did it get to the Supreme Court?
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window." ]
> Was dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?" ]
> "No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome." So basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it." ]
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[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud." ]
> And yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall." ]
> And we are all dumber now for having to read this.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country..." ]
> Makes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this." ]
> The qultists aren't too happy about this You love to see it
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s." ]
> Yet another L
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it" ]
> Lawsuit written with crayons?
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L" ]
> Saturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?" ]
> Can't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question." ]
> Their conservatives are dense.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.", ">\n\nCan't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?" ]
> I wonder how many years more will we hear about this nonsense. Give it up, Republicans. He lost. Bigly.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.", ">\n\nCan't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?", ">\n\nTheir conservatives are dense." ]
> How does something like this make it that far ?
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.", ">\n\nCan't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?", ">\n\nTheir conservatives are dense.", ">\n\nI wonder how many years more will we hear about this nonsense. Give it up, Republicans. He lost. Bigly." ]
> It’s mind boggling to realize that in order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court. All those courts and judges are willing to do away with the will of the people and the democratic process. Remember that.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.", ">\n\nCan't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?", ">\n\nTheir conservatives are dense.", ">\n\nI wonder how many years more will we hear about this nonsense. Give it up, Republicans. He lost. Bigly.", ">\n\nHow does something like this make it that far ?" ]
> in order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court. Not true - federal issues (like this one) go through the federal court system. And if you read the article, this case "went through" the federal court system as follows: Federal Court case denied for lack of standing, Appeals Court refused to hear the case, Supreme Court refused to hear the case. So they literally (and rightfully) never had a day in court.
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.", ">\n\nCan't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?", ">\n\nTheir conservatives are dense.", ">\n\nI wonder how many years more will we hear about this nonsense. Give it up, Republicans. He lost. Bigly.", ">\n\nHow does something like this make it that far ?", ">\n\nIt’s mind boggling to realize that in order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court.\nAll those courts and judges are willing to do away with the will of the people and the democratic process. Remember that." ]
> How did this even make it to the Supreme Court?
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.", ">\n\nCan't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?", ">\n\nTheir conservatives are dense.", ">\n\nI wonder how many years more will we hear about this nonsense. Give it up, Republicans. He lost. Bigly.", ">\n\nHow does something like this make it that far ?", ">\n\nIt’s mind boggling to realize that in order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court.\nAll those courts and judges are willing to do away with the will of the people and the democratic process. Remember that.", ">\n\n\nin order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court.\n\nNot true - federal issues (like this one) go through the federal court system. And if you read the article, this case \"went through\" the federal court system as follows: Federal Court case denied for lack of standing, Appeals Court refused to hear the case, Supreme Court refused to hear the case. So they literally (and rightfully) never had a day in court." ]
> How did this case make it to the supreme court? Like wtf
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.", ">\n\nCan't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?", ">\n\nTheir conservatives are dense.", ">\n\nI wonder how many years more will we hear about this nonsense. Give it up, Republicans. He lost. Bigly.", ">\n\nHow does something like this make it that far ?", ">\n\nIt’s mind boggling to realize that in order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court.\nAll those courts and judges are willing to do away with the will of the people and the democratic process. Remember that.", ">\n\n\nin order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court.\n\nNot true - federal issues (like this one) go through the federal court system. And if you read the article, this case \"went through\" the federal court system as follows: Federal Court case denied for lack of standing, Appeals Court refused to hear the case, Supreme Court refused to hear the case. So they literally (and rightfully) never had a day in court.", ">\n\nHow did this even make it to the Supreme Court?" ]
> How the hell did this trite even make it that far??
[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.", ">\n\nCan't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?", ">\n\nTheir conservatives are dense.", ">\n\nI wonder how many years more will we hear about this nonsense. Give it up, Republicans. He lost. Bigly.", ">\n\nHow does something like this make it that far ?", ">\n\nIt’s mind boggling to realize that in order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court.\nAll those courts and judges are willing to do away with the will of the people and the democratic process. Remember that.", ">\n\n\nin order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court.\n\nNot true - federal issues (like this one) go through the federal court system. And if you read the article, this case \"went through\" the federal court system as follows: Federal Court case denied for lack of standing, Appeals Court refused to hear the case, Supreme Court refused to hear the case. So they literally (and rightfully) never had a day in court.", ">\n\nHow did this even make it to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nHow did this case make it to the supreme court? Like wtf" ]
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[ "I'm starting to think Donald Trump will never win the 2020 election", ">\n\nIm still in utter shock that JFK Jr didn’t return from dead and help king clown back into office. How could that be wrong? It seems so rational.", ">\n\n“It’s gonna happen, these things take time. You just wait!” - my QAnon friend, who has discovered infinite patience he never knew he had before. Though, it’s not really patience I suppose; it’s more like the parent jingling keys in front of the baby to make it forget why it’s crying. “Hey, why didn’t that 100% certain prediction come true?” “Don’t worry, it will, but have you heard about this thing you need to be angry about?!? It’s shocking!! Get angry!!!”", ">\n\nI know. They said nothing could stop the storm. But remember these are the same people who have been waiting over 2000 years for the return of the dude who was supposed to come back 2000 years ago", ">\n\nThe cherry on the cake is that the Q propagandists (who are incredibly good at what they do, given the market they are targeting), cover their bases by making a dozen predictions each day. Then when one comes true they say ‘SEE! We were right so we’ll be right about the others too!”. Broken clock theory at its finest.\nThey started out with very specific predictions (x event will happen on this exact date) and then kept being more and more vague. For a few months now my buddy has basically stopped passing them on, but at one point he’d say ‘something big is supposed to happen tomorrow. You’ll be sorry for ever doubting.’ I’d ask him what was going to happen and he would just repeat that there’s murmurs of something big doing down. \nApparently that’s all it takes to keep them tuning in for more. ‘Something big could happen tomorrow or maybe next week or the month after!’ Which could literally be anything. The shotgun approach to prognosticating.", ">\n\nFor over a year these people would tell me they were making popcorn in order to watch all the trials they promised me were going to happen within days. I don’t think they talk about making popcorn anymore but they’re still sure it’s going to happen any day now. They’ve sunk so much time and effort into believing this shit and doing their own “research” into it that they can’t now admit it was all a foolish waste of time", ">\n\nOf course not. My childhood friend has been indoctrinated for the past 2.5 years. He’s a seasonal worker who doesn’t love to work. So when he isn’t working (half the year) he’s listening to 4-6 hours per day of this propaganda. He has podcasts and YouTube videos in one ear while he falls asleep, or while he watched sports or plays video games, but mostly while he scrolls his Instagram and Telegram and Signal apps. \nImagine having to face the reality that he’s spent thousands of hours for nothing (being fooled). He can’t do it. At this point he’s need a detox and deprogramming therapy, which to him would be literally joining Satan worshipers. Not figuratively; he believes Dems and anyone rich or anyone who provides conflicting information to be influenced by Satan or evil Jews or the new world order or Bill Gates or Soros, etc. \nIt’s a lost cause.", ">\n\nText for those who can't see b/c paywall:\n\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nThe podcast Opening Arguments did a break down of why this case is total bullshit if anyone cares to listen. They break it down in easy to understand terms. Epidsode # 668. Episode is even done to appeal to those who may be inclined to believe this case has merit.", ">\n\nGoing out on limb to guess it got thrown out because this...\n\nnearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud\n\n...is not at all how it's supposed to work anyway? That's not the job of Congress, that's for the DoJ and FBI to do.\nReally hope they get some frivolous-lawsuit charges for filing over a question which could have been answered with a 2-minute Google.", ">\n\nThe Q boards are on fire after this. They say the next step is an appeal to a military tribunal lol. And if the military doesn’t step in, it’s militia time. That a time to be alive", ">\n\ni bet they emboldened by brasil too", ">\n\nAnd who funded this boondoggle?", ">\n\nExactly.", ">\n\nTheir lawyers need to be disbarred.", ">\n\nIirc, they were pro se - they represented themselves.", ">\n\nThey should be charged with wasting the Courts time when..", ">\n\nDoes any of those 400 include the ones that were elected on the same ballot Trump lost on or do they conveniently skip over that fact like every other Republican?", ">\n\nOh it most certainly does include Republicans who beat Democrats, but voted for Biden or didn't vote for President at all.\nI've asked the same thing in AskTrumpSupporters but have never gotten an honest reply.", ">\n\nFull text since it's behind a paywall: \n\nSupreme Court rejects Utah brothers’ lawsuit seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House\nBy Bryan Schott  | Jan. 9, 2023, 5:05 p.m.\nThe lawsuit said nearly 400 members of Congress should be removed from office for failing to investigate claims of fraud in the 2020 election\n(Jose Luis Magana | AP) The U.S. Supreme Court is seen early Tuesday, May 3, 2022 in Washington. The Supreme Court, on Monday, Jan. 9, 2023, rejected a lawsuit brought by three Utah brothers seeking to return Donald Trump to the White House.\nThree Utah brothers seeking to overturn the results of the 2020 election and return Donald Trump to the White House will not have their longshot lawsuit heard by the U.S. Supreme Court.\nThe litigation, Brunson v. Adams et. al., claimed nearly 400 members of Congress violated their oaths of office by not investigating claims of voter fraud in the 2020 election and voting to certify Joe Biden’s win.\nRaland Brunson, the lead plaintiff in the suit, along with brothers Loy and Deron, asked for those members of Congress, along with President Joe Biden and Vice President Kamala Harris, to be removed from office and barred from ever running again. Similarly, former Vice President Mike Pence would also be banned from holding another elective office.\nIn an order published Monday, the Supreme Court said it would not hear the Utahn’s case.\nOn Friday, a small group of Bronson’s supporters met outside the Supreme Court in hopes of encouraging justices to hear their arguments.\nThe suit also ignored the order of presidential succession laid out in the Constitution by asking that Donald Trump be made eligible to return to the White House.\nAccording to Deron Brunson, lawmakers’ refusal to look into election fraud claims was akin to treason and an “act of war” against the United States. No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\nThe suit also asked for more than $2.9 billion in damages that the court make that payout tax-free.\nThe Brunsons did not immediately respond to a request for comment about the ruling.\nOn social media, Raland Brunson set the stage for Monday’s denial. “Don’t think for a second that my brothers and I are not prepared for denial. We’ve got plenty of chess pieces still at play and we still have our queen,” he wrote on his Facebook page.\nFollowing Monday’s decision, Raland expressed disappointment on Facebook but said they planned to ask the court to reconsider.\nThe case was initially dismissed by a federal judge for lack of standing. The brothers appealed the decision to the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals but were denied, leading to Monday’s denial by the Supreme Court.\nSeveral media figures on the far right were hyping the case in the days leading up to Monday’s decision, including some prominent influencers in the QAnon conspiracy theory movement.", ">\n\nHow does such a frivolous lawsuit make it all the way to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nIt didn't. \nIt was rejected at the trial court level. They appealed that dismissal to the appeals court, which then rejected the appeal. They appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again. It didn't \"make it\" to anywhere.", ">\n\nThey appealed that to the Supreme and the Supreme rejected it again.\nSo…it made it all the way to the Supreme Court. It never even should have made it that far through the appeals process is the point…it should have been laughed away on day one.", ">\n\nThe supreme court declined to hear the case, meaning the decision by the appellate court stands.\nTaking away someone's right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.", ">\n\nTaking away someone’s right to an appeal is a pretty bad precedent, I would advise against it.\nLetting every single batshit crazy lawsuit make it all the way up the appeals process to the Supreme Court is an even worse precedent. I would definitely advise against it.", ">\n\nWhat we should do is have people who judge whether a lawsuit is worth pursuing or not, and then if people think they made a bad call, someone can take the judgment of that person to a panel of 3 more people with more experience, who can judge whether the first person's judgments were right or wrong, and either allow the case to continue or keep it shut down.\nWe could even have a panel of 9 people, who have super good judgment to make sure that even those middle people who are making judgment calls do the right thing. We can call them the supreme judgment people.\nI like this system. I think I will call it the \"super awesome people figuring out laws and rules system.\" Or maybe the \"justice system* I don't know it's still a work in progress.", ">\n\nThat’s great. Glad you think the judges have plenty of time to consider every single bat shit crazy course case in the entire country.\nAnd apparently the bat-shit crazier the case, the more important it is that it makes it all the way up to the Supreme Court.\nSo according to you, since my local judge refused to throw out my parking ticket, I should just appeal it up to the Supreme Court. Since they’ve got plenty of time on their hands, and they’re the ultimate court in this “super awesome” system of yours.", ">\n\nYou realize that people have to pay for an appeal, right? And that money goes towards the judges' pay? If you want to appeal a traffic ticket be my guest, it's your money. But there is a reason why the courts function the way they do and it is to provide a system to address issues with the law. I like being able to appeal a trial court judge's decision to include/exclude a witness or to improperly hear/dismiss a case, because it provides clear resolution and avoids fascism by a single panel/person at one level of the court system.\nThe Supreme Court gets about 7000 applications for \"cert\" each year, and they have whole staffs of people dedicated to handling them. This case would have been a 5-10 minute thing as well, as there was no federal question or circuit split at issue, so it really didn't eat into their available time. This is literally why we have judges and justices, I don't mind having them do their jobs.", ">\n\nBut there is a reason why the courts function the way they do\nKinda getting the sense you don’t really understand how courts function the way they do. Unless you’re implying $$$$ is what makes the courts go round.", ">\n\nWell, we pay the judges...so yes?", ">\n\nBut its not a cult. /s", ">\n\nI listened to a podcast about this. It’s an absolutely batshit lawsuit, filled with zero facts or evidence.. of course it was thrown out.\nBut how batshit was it? Aside from demanding 45 be placed back in office immediately they were seeking damages of 2.9 TRILLION DOLLARS, and I shit you not not explicitly said they want it “tax free”", ">\n\nJustice Thomas was obviously not the one to get this petition…", ">\n\nI have a feeling their family tree looks like a wreath..", ">\n\nI suspect it’s the Utah Supreme Court, not SCOTUS but the page is Paywalled for me.", ">\n\nThis was that Brunson V Adams some of the Q/MAGA crowd have been shouting about. So yeah, US Supreme Court, not just Utah. \nThey didn’t understand how the SC works and assumed that because it was on for review to decide to take it or not, that it would be decided on Jan 6th and Trump would be President again. \nAnother big fat L for those crazy people.", ">\n\nHold on. Are you saying Right Wing Freedom Fighters don’t understand how government or laws work? That can’t be right.", ">\n\nAfter all they all \"do the research\"...", ">\n\nPerhaps they will storm the Supreme Court and do mock trial and shit...", ">\n\nNext up, trial of century involving milk and a cookie!", ">\n\nPeople vs Santa Claus for theft of milk and cookies", ">\n\nI wonder how each Justice voted???", ">\n\nThey didn't. They just had their lowest-level intern scrawl \"FUCK NO!\" on the first page and throw it out the window.", ">\n\nHow did it get to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nWas dismissed due to lack of standing then refused at every other level they appealed at. This was the last possible appeal and the USSC refused to hear it.", ">\n\n\"No credible evidence has been presented of widespread fraud during the 2020 presidential election or that it impacted the outcome.\"\nSo basically just like every single other case involving claims of election fraud.", ">\n\nPaywall.", ">\n\nAnd yet there is not enough money for useful things in this country...", ">\n\nAnd we are all dumber now for having to read this.", ">\n\nMakes sense every lower court refused to hear the case, so of course, SCOTUS will take it up. /s.", ">\n\nThe qultists aren't too happy about this\nYou love to see it", ">\n\nYet another L", ">\n\nLawsuit written with crayons?", ">\n\nSaturday I got hotheaded with the owner of the shop I manage over this moronic lawsuit. I don't get how such a brilliant man can fall for this crap or even hope on it. He' response was what's wrong with asking the question... Um, read the Constitution and you'll know why it's dumb af to ask the question.", ">\n\nCan't get passed the paywall. Why did this suit even get to SCOTUS? Does that mean I can sue in the Court anytime I want?", ">\n\nTheir conservatives are dense.", ">\n\nI wonder how many years more will we hear about this nonsense. Give it up, Republicans. He lost. Bigly.", ">\n\nHow does something like this make it that far ?", ">\n\nIt’s mind boggling to realize that in order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court.\nAll those courts and judges are willing to do away with the will of the people and the democratic process. Remember that.", ">\n\n\nin order to be considered for the Federal Supreme Court it has to have gone through all the other lower courts including the state Supreme Court.\n\nNot true - federal issues (like this one) go through the federal court system. And if you read the article, this case \"went through\" the federal court system as follows: Federal Court case denied for lack of standing, Appeals Court refused to hear the case, Supreme Court refused to hear the case. So they literally (and rightfully) never had a day in court.", ">\n\nHow did this even make it to the Supreme Court?", ">\n\nHow did this case make it to the supreme court? Like wtf", ">\n\nHow the hell did this trite even make it that far??" ]
Here's the build details QK65 Green with mirror back Glove x Domikey Adventurer Keycaps Prevail Nevula Linear Switches
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> Super jealous of that keycap set. If you ever want to get them off your hands let me know lol
[ "Here's the build details\nQK65 Green with mirror back\nGlove x Domikey Adventurer Keycaps\nPrevail Nevula Linear Switches" ]
> WOW
[ "Here's the build details\nQK65 Green with mirror back\nGlove x Domikey Adventurer Keycaps\nPrevail Nevula Linear Switches", ">\n\nSuper jealous of that keycap set. If you ever want to get them off your hands let me know lol" ]
> Amazing! Your board has it's own mirror shield
[ "Here's the build details\nQK65 Green with mirror back\nGlove x Domikey Adventurer Keycaps\nPrevail Nevula Linear Switches", ">\n\nSuper jealous of that keycap set. If you ever want to get them off your hands let me know lol", ">\n\nWOW" ]
> Thanks alot good sir. Every time i put my fingers on the mirror i cry a little inside
[ "Here's the build details\nQK65 Green with mirror back\nGlove x Domikey Adventurer Keycaps\nPrevail Nevula Linear Switches", ">\n\nSuper jealous of that keycap set. If you ever want to get them off your hands let me know lol", ">\n\nWOW", ">\n\nAmazing! Your board has it's own mirror shield" ]
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[ "Here's the build details\nQK65 Green with mirror back\nGlove x Domikey Adventurer Keycaps\nPrevail Nevula Linear Switches", ">\n\nSuper jealous of that keycap set. If you ever want to get them off your hands let me know lol", ">\n\nWOW", ">\n\nAmazing! Your board has it's own mirror shield", ">\n\nThanks alot good sir.\nEvery time i put my fingers on the mirror i cry a little inside" ]
It's amusing how it still works when very reduced, and when you can cleverly insert or find the pattern.
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> Sorry I didn’t realize it was 2018
[ "It's amusing how it still works when very reduced, and when you can cleverly insert or find the pattern." ]
> Thank you. Finally someone agrees with meme in these troubled times.
[ "It's amusing how it still works when very reduced, and when you can cleverly insert or find the pattern.", ">\n\nSorry I didn’t realize it was 2018" ]
>
[ "It's amusing how it still works when very reduced, and when you can cleverly insert or find the pattern.", ">\n\nSorry I didn’t realize it was 2018", ">\n\nThank you. Finally someone agrees with meme in these troubled times." ]
Cleaaaaan
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> Thanks!
[ "Cleaaaaan" ]
> i can’t tell if it’s just the photos but the colours look so off from from the colours shown in the geekhack post
[ "Cleaaaaan", ">\n\nThanks!" ]
> The photos definitely make them look lighter than they are in person.
[ "Cleaaaaan", ">\n\nThanks!", ">\n\ni can’t tell if it’s just the photos but the colours look so off from from the colours shown in the geekhack post" ]
> It's the standard pcb you get with the tofu 60% set, I've also been using right shift for /? I'm trying out this format for a bit to see which I'll like better (it isn't actually right shift I have it set as a function key to change the LED settings of the board).
[ "Cleaaaaan", ">\n\nThanks!", ">\n\ni can’t tell if it’s just the photos but the colours look so off from from the colours shown in the geekhack post", ">\n\nThe photos definitely make them look lighter than they are in person." ]
>
[ "Cleaaaaan", ">\n\nThanks!", ">\n\ni can’t tell if it’s just the photos but the colours look so off from from the colours shown in the geekhack post", ">\n\nThe photos definitely make them look lighter than they are in person.", ">\n\nIt's the standard pcb you get with the tofu 60% set, I've also been using right shift for /? I'm trying out this format for a bit to see which I'll like better (it isn't actually right shift I have it set as a function key to change the LED settings of the board)." ]
Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.
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> Hards and mines?
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population." ]
> This is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine. Become a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job. Use Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?" ]
> Same in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies." ]
> Fuck Putin and his rubljat.
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide." ]
> Take property? Only property worth taking right now is Crimea, on the dirt cheap, by Ukranians
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.", ">\n\nFuck Putin and his rubljat." ]
> This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 49%. (I'm a bot) The Russian invaders threaten to confiscate property for the residents' refusal to pay in roubles in the temporarily occupied territories. Quote: "Russians continue to put pressure on entrepreneurs who continue to use hryvnias in the temporarily occupied territories. Currently, the invaders are threatening entrepreneurs with confiscation of property and seizure of all currency for using the hryvnia. However, people continue to use the legal Ukrainian currency." Details: It was reported that the Russians introduced a mandatory rouble zone in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine on 1 January. Extended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: hryvnia^#1 continue^#2 occupied^#3 Russian^#4 entrepreneurs^#5
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.", ">\n\nFuck Putin and his rubljat.", ">\n\nTake property? Only property worth taking right now is Crimea, on the dirt cheap, by Ukranians" ]
> At this stage, the country needs renaming to "Russia Threatens".
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.", ">\n\nFuck Putin and his rubljat.", ">\n\nTake property? Only property worth taking right now is Crimea, on the dirt cheap, by Ukranians", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 49%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe Russian invaders threaten to confiscate property for the residents' refusal to pay in roubles in the temporarily occupied territories.\nQuote: \"Russians continue to put pressure on entrepreneurs who continue to use hryvnias in the temporarily occupied territories. Currently, the invaders are threatening entrepreneurs with confiscation of property and seizure of all currency for using the hryvnia. However, people continue to use the legal Ukrainian currency.\"\nDetails: It was reported that the Russians introduced a mandatory rouble zone in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine on 1 January.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: hryvnia^#1 continue^#2 occupied^#3 Russian^#4 entrepreneurs^#5" ]
> The Rubel has no value. Is this the attempt to artificially rise the value of the Rubel?
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.", ">\n\nFuck Putin and his rubljat.", ">\n\nTake property? Only property worth taking right now is Crimea, on the dirt cheap, by Ukranians", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 49%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe Russian invaders threaten to confiscate property for the residents' refusal to pay in roubles in the temporarily occupied territories.\nQuote: \"Russians continue to put pressure on entrepreneurs who continue to use hryvnias in the temporarily occupied territories. Currently, the invaders are threatening entrepreneurs with confiscation of property and seizure of all currency for using the hryvnia. However, people continue to use the legal Ukrainian currency.\"\nDetails: It was reported that the Russians introduced a mandatory rouble zone in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine on 1 January.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: hryvnia^#1 continue^#2 occupied^#3 Russian^#4 entrepreneurs^#5", ">\n\nAt this stage, the country needs renaming to \"Russia Threatens\"." ]
> Oh, making a Stalin move, Stalin just TOOK my grandparents/mom land when she was a little child.. 🙏🏼thankfully, they immigrated and got away from that insane dictator
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.", ">\n\nFuck Putin and his rubljat.", ">\n\nTake property? Only property worth taking right now is Crimea, on the dirt cheap, by Ukranians", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 49%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe Russian invaders threaten to confiscate property for the residents' refusal to pay in roubles in the temporarily occupied territories.\nQuote: \"Russians continue to put pressure on entrepreneurs who continue to use hryvnias in the temporarily occupied territories. Currently, the invaders are threatening entrepreneurs with confiscation of property and seizure of all currency for using the hryvnia. However, people continue to use the legal Ukrainian currency.\"\nDetails: It was reported that the Russians introduced a mandatory rouble zone in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine on 1 January.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: hryvnia^#1 continue^#2 occupied^#3 Russian^#4 entrepreneurs^#5", ">\n\nAt this stage, the country needs renaming to \"Russia Threatens\".", ">\n\nThe Rubel has no value. Is this the attempt to artificially rise the value of the Rubel?" ]
> I wonder what the Ruble - Toilet exchange rate will be.
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.", ">\n\nFuck Putin and his rubljat.", ">\n\nTake property? Only property worth taking right now is Crimea, on the dirt cheap, by Ukranians", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 49%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe Russian invaders threaten to confiscate property for the residents' refusal to pay in roubles in the temporarily occupied territories.\nQuote: \"Russians continue to put pressure on entrepreneurs who continue to use hryvnias in the temporarily occupied territories. Currently, the invaders are threatening entrepreneurs with confiscation of property and seizure of all currency for using the hryvnia. However, people continue to use the legal Ukrainian currency.\"\nDetails: It was reported that the Russians introduced a mandatory rouble zone in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine on 1 January.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: hryvnia^#1 continue^#2 occupied^#3 Russian^#4 entrepreneurs^#5", ">\n\nAt this stage, the country needs renaming to \"Russia Threatens\".", ">\n\nThe Rubel has no value. Is this the attempt to artificially rise the value of the Rubel?", ">\n\nOh, making a Stalin move, Stalin just TOOK my grandparents/mom land when she was a little child.. 🙏🏼thankfully, they immigrated and got away from that insane dictator" ]
> Threaten to take property…..didnt they already cross that line?
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.", ">\n\nFuck Putin and his rubljat.", ">\n\nTake property? Only property worth taking right now is Crimea, on the dirt cheap, by Ukranians", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 49%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe Russian invaders threaten to confiscate property for the residents' refusal to pay in roubles in the temporarily occupied territories.\nQuote: \"Russians continue to put pressure on entrepreneurs who continue to use hryvnias in the temporarily occupied territories. Currently, the invaders are threatening entrepreneurs with confiscation of property and seizure of all currency for using the hryvnia. However, people continue to use the legal Ukrainian currency.\"\nDetails: It was reported that the Russians introduced a mandatory rouble zone in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine on 1 January.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: hryvnia^#1 continue^#2 occupied^#3 Russian^#4 entrepreneurs^#5", ">\n\nAt this stage, the country needs renaming to \"Russia Threatens\".", ">\n\nThe Rubel has no value. Is this the attempt to artificially rise the value of the Rubel?", ">\n\nOh, making a Stalin move, Stalin just TOOK my grandparents/mom land when she was a little child.. 🙏🏼thankfully, they immigrated and got away from that insane dictator", ">\n\nI wonder what the Ruble - Toilet exchange rate will be." ]
> Good luck
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.", ">\n\nFuck Putin and his rubljat.", ">\n\nTake property? Only property worth taking right now is Crimea, on the dirt cheap, by Ukranians", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 49%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe Russian invaders threaten to confiscate property for the residents' refusal to pay in roubles in the temporarily occupied territories.\nQuote: \"Russians continue to put pressure on entrepreneurs who continue to use hryvnias in the temporarily occupied territories. Currently, the invaders are threatening entrepreneurs with confiscation of property and seizure of all currency for using the hryvnia. However, people continue to use the legal Ukrainian currency.\"\nDetails: It was reported that the Russians introduced a mandatory rouble zone in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine on 1 January.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: hryvnia^#1 continue^#2 occupied^#3 Russian^#4 entrepreneurs^#5", ">\n\nAt this stage, the country needs renaming to \"Russia Threatens\".", ">\n\nThe Rubel has no value. Is this the attempt to artificially rise the value of the Rubel?", ">\n\nOh, making a Stalin move, Stalin just TOOK my grandparents/mom land when she was a little child.. 🙏🏼thankfully, they immigrated and got away from that insane dictator", ">\n\nI wonder what the Ruble - Toilet exchange rate will be.", ">\n\nThreaten to take property…..didnt they already cross that line?" ]
>
[ "Winning the hearts and minds of the local population.", ">\n\nHards and mines?", ">\n\nThis is what the Russians did in all illegally annexed territories in Ukraine.\nBecome a Russian citizen or we'll take your property and you'll lose your job.\nUse Russian money or we will forcefully take all your property and all your other currencies.", ">\n\nSame in Georgia Abchasia and South Ossetia. Straight up colonialism and genocide.", ">\n\nFuck Putin and his rubljat.", ">\n\nTake property? Only property worth taking right now is Crimea, on the dirt cheap, by Ukranians", ">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 49%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nThe Russian invaders threaten to confiscate property for the residents' refusal to pay in roubles in the temporarily occupied territories.\nQuote: \"Russians continue to put pressure on entrepreneurs who continue to use hryvnias in the temporarily occupied territories. Currently, the invaders are threatening entrepreneurs with confiscation of property and seizure of all currency for using the hryvnia. However, people continue to use the legal Ukrainian currency.\"\nDetails: It was reported that the Russians introduced a mandatory rouble zone in the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine on 1 January.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: hryvnia^#1 continue^#2 occupied^#3 Russian^#4 entrepreneurs^#5", ">\n\nAt this stage, the country needs renaming to \"Russia Threatens\".", ">\n\nThe Rubel has no value. Is this the attempt to artificially rise the value of the Rubel?", ">\n\nOh, making a Stalin move, Stalin just TOOK my grandparents/mom land when she was a little child.. 🙏🏼thankfully, they immigrated and got away from that insane dictator", ">\n\nI wonder what the Ruble - Toilet exchange rate will be.", ">\n\nThreaten to take property…..didnt they already cross that line?", ">\n\nGood luck" ]
A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising. Exurban area so not the big chain stores.
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> Hopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores." ]
> Agreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it" ]
> These were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good." ]
> I’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time." ]
> Cool. Now do housing prices.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well." ]
> And bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices." ]
> Because investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy. Thats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive." ]
> I like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy." ]
> They are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish." ]
> Just drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store." ]
> Several physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway." ]
> Why does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago. This price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax." ]
> Same reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you." ]
> People drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper." ]
> Soda + alcohol, yeah!
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?" ]
> My family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!" ]
> The law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s" ]
> Here's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts." ]
> Not certain how this is political...
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.", ">\n\nHere's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved" ]
> Federal probe* - it’s right there in the title.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.", ">\n\nHere's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved", ">\n\nNot certain how this is political..." ]
> "Federal" isn't a synonym for "political." The FTC suing to enforce a Federal law isn't a matter of politics.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.", ">\n\nHere's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved", ">\n\nNot certain how this is political...", ">\n\nFederal probe* - it’s right there in the title." ]
> They're an independent agency of the federal government. The FTC is composed of five commissioners, who each serve seven-year terms. Members of the commission are nominated by the President and subject to Senate confirmation, and no more than three FTC members can be of the same party. Sounds political to me since elected officials nominate and confirm them.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.", ">\n\nHere's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved", ">\n\nNot certain how this is political...", ">\n\nFederal probe* - it’s right there in the title.", ">\n\n\"Federal\" isn't a synonym for \"political.\" The FTC suing to enforce a Federal law isn't a matter of politics." ]
> Elected officials nominate and confirm attorneys general -- does that make ALL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT de facto political? Outside of sophomoric rhetoric?
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.", ">\n\nHere's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved", ">\n\nNot certain how this is political...", ">\n\nFederal probe* - it’s right there in the title.", ">\n\n\"Federal\" isn't a synonym for \"political.\" The FTC suing to enforce a Federal law isn't a matter of politics.", ">\n\nThey're an independent agency of the federal government.\n\nThe FTC is composed of five commissioners, who each serve seven-year terms. Members of the commission are nominated by the President and subject to Senate confirmation, and no more than three FTC members can be of the same party.\n\nSounds political to me since elected officials nominate and confirm them." ]
> Posts on /r/Politics must be directly related to and have a significant involvement/impact on any of: Policy. This includes any discussion of specific governmental policies or the development of such policies. Government policy can be developed at any level of government (from elected school board to Congress). It also includes court decisions which either create law itself (appellate court decisions) or involve the government.
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.", ">\n\nHere's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved", ">\n\nNot certain how this is political...", ">\n\nFederal probe* - it’s right there in the title.", ">\n\n\"Federal\" isn't a synonym for \"political.\" The FTC suing to enforce a Federal law isn't a matter of politics.", ">\n\nThey're an independent agency of the federal government.\n\nThe FTC is composed of five commissioners, who each serve seven-year terms. Members of the commission are nominated by the President and subject to Senate confirmation, and no more than three FTC members can be of the same party.\n\nSounds political to me since elected officials nominate and confirm them.", ">\n\nElected officials nominate and confirm attorneys general -- does that make ALL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT de facto political? Outside of sophomoric rhetoric?" ]
> How about healthcare and dental costs?
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.", ">\n\nHere's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved", ">\n\nNot certain how this is political...", ">\n\nFederal probe* - it’s right there in the title.", ">\n\n\"Federal\" isn't a synonym for \"political.\" The FTC suing to enforce a Federal law isn't a matter of politics.", ">\n\nThey're an independent agency of the federal government.\n\nThe FTC is composed of five commissioners, who each serve seven-year terms. Members of the commission are nominated by the President and subject to Senate confirmation, and no more than three FTC members can be of the same party.\n\nSounds political to me since elected officials nominate and confirm them.", ">\n\nElected officials nominate and confirm attorneys general -- does that make ALL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT de facto political? Outside of sophomoric rhetoric?", ">\n\n\nPosts on /r/Politics must be directly related to and have a significant involvement/impact on any of:\nPolicy. This includes any discussion of specific governmental policies or the development of such policies. Government policy can be developed at any level of government (from elected school board to Congress). It also includes court decisions which either create law itself (appellate court decisions) or involve the government." ]
> When you're done tackling the cost of soda, can you take a look at gas? Other groceries if you have time?
[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.", ">\n\nHere's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved", ">\n\nNot certain how this is political...", ">\n\nFederal probe* - it’s right there in the title.", ">\n\n\"Federal\" isn't a synonym for \"political.\" The FTC suing to enforce a Federal law isn't a matter of politics.", ">\n\nThey're an independent agency of the federal government.\n\nThe FTC is composed of five commissioners, who each serve seven-year terms. Members of the commission are nominated by the President and subject to Senate confirmation, and no more than three FTC members can be of the same party.\n\nSounds political to me since elected officials nominate and confirm them.", ">\n\nElected officials nominate and confirm attorneys general -- does that make ALL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT de facto political? Outside of sophomoric rhetoric?", ">\n\n\nPosts on /r/Politics must be directly related to and have a significant involvement/impact on any of:\nPolicy. This includes any discussion of specific governmental policies or the development of such policies. Government policy can be developed at any level of government (from elected school board to Congress). It also includes court decisions which either create law itself (appellate court decisions) or involve the government.", ">\n\nHow about healthcare and dental costs?" ]
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[ "A case of Pepsi/coke is up to $8 where I live. My eyeballs popped out of my head when I saw it. I haven’t bought a case in years so it was quite surprising.\nExurban area so not the big chain stores.", ">\n\nHopefully it encourages more people to stay away from it", ">\n\nAgreed, and some of those bubble water drinks are pretty good after you kick the sugar drinks, I had a tangerine one the other day (la croix I think) that was pretty damn good.", ">\n\nThese were what really helped me cut soda out of my diet. For me the fizzy sensation is enough to scratch that itch for soda most of the time.", ">\n\nI’ve done the same thing. But we should remember these same companies sell those waters as well.", ">\n\nCool. Now do housing prices.", ">\n\nAnd bring in Communism because centrally-planned economies always thrive.", ">\n\nBecause investigating collusion between landlords and property owners = centrally planned economy.\nThats less of a slippery slope fallacy and more of a sheer cliff fallacy.", ">\n\nI like the occasional diet soda. A year ago it was 4.99ish off sale for a 12 pack of cans. Usually 3 for 10 or 4 for 12. Would last a while. Now its 7.99+ each with an occasional 2 for 11 or 2 for 12 or 14. There is no way their costs went up that much. This is price gouging. As an example, the store brands went from 2.99 to 3.50ish.", ">\n\nThey are gouging but people must keep buying it. I used to drink a lot of Coke Zero but once it hit $7 a 12er I stopped and started drinking tea and coffee mainly. It’s not even an affordability thing soda just isn’t worth $7 for 12. I think it’s gone up again to $7.49 too last time I was at the grocery store.", ">\n\nJust drink fucking water, tea, etc. That stuff is liquid diabetes anyway.", ">\n\nSeveral physician groups advocate for a sugar tax.", ">\n\nWhy does anyone even drink this junk? They banned the sale of sugary drinks at schools in Belgium where I live about 20 years ago.\nThis price increase is honestly the best thing that can happen to you, guys. Stop drinking it and your body as well as your brain will be thankful to you.", ">\n\nSame reason ppl drink beer. It tastes good. I like an occasional coke or Dr pepper.", ">\n\nPeople drink soda to drown their sorrows and have sex with people that would otherwise be below their standards?", ">\n\nSoda + alcohol, yeah!", ">\n\nMy family is blaming Biden. Case solved. /s", ">\n\nThe law I assume covers charging the same price for product no matter who it is sold to. I'm not sure what this is about other than quantity discounts.", ">\n\nHere's an idea: Don't drink disgusting sugar water. Problem solved", ">\n\nNot certain how this is political...", ">\n\nFederal probe* - it’s right there in the title.", ">\n\n\"Federal\" isn't a synonym for \"political.\" The FTC suing to enforce a Federal law isn't a matter of politics.", ">\n\nThey're an independent agency of the federal government.\n\nThe FTC is composed of five commissioners, who each serve seven-year terms. Members of the commission are nominated by the President and subject to Senate confirmation, and no more than three FTC members can be of the same party.\n\nSounds political to me since elected officials nominate and confirm them.", ">\n\nElected officials nominate and confirm attorneys general -- does that make ALL OF LAW ENFORCEMENT de facto political? Outside of sophomoric rhetoric?", ">\n\n\nPosts on /r/Politics must be directly related to and have a significant involvement/impact on any of:\nPolicy. This includes any discussion of specific governmental policies or the development of such policies. Government policy can be developed at any level of government (from elected school board to Congress). It also includes court decisions which either create law itself (appellate court decisions) or involve the government.", ">\n\nHow about healthcare and dental costs?", ">\n\nWhen you're done tackling the cost of soda, can you take a look at gas? Other groceries if you have time?" ]
I just would feel to bad. I feel bad not using it so I’ll force myself to like it lol. But yea I kinda agree with u here
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> Regifting is a glorious act
[ "I just would feel to bad. I feel bad not using it so I’ll force myself to like it lol.\nBut yea I kinda agree with u here" ]
> Exactly. My parents got me the same gift two years in a row and I haven’t used either of them once.
[ "I just would feel to bad. I feel bad not using it so I’ll force myself to like it lol.\nBut yea I kinda agree with u here", ">\n\nRegifting is a glorious act" ]
> And yet theres a billion posts on here talking about how people who ask for lists are worthless, thoughtless pieces of shit who should never be allowed to gift give again lol
[ "I just would feel to bad. I feel bad not using it so I’ll force myself to like it lol.\nBut yea I kinda agree with u here", ">\n\nRegifting is a glorious act", ">\n\nExactly. My parents got me the same gift two years in a row and I haven’t used either of them once." ]
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[ "I just would feel to bad. I feel bad not using it so I’ll force myself to like it lol.\nBut yea I kinda agree with u here", ">\n\nRegifting is a glorious act", ">\n\nExactly. My parents got me the same gift two years in a row and I haven’t used either of them once.", ">\n\nAnd yet theres a billion posts on here talking about how people who ask for lists are worthless, thoughtless pieces of shit who should never be allowed to gift give again lol" ]
Feinstein is turning 90 this year. And unlike the right's talking points about Biden, rumors of serious cognitive decline for her are much more concrete and concerning. I really hope she has the grace to retire and enjoy her sunset years instead of muddying her legacy with the mess another term would likely turn into. Because here's the thing, if she runs, she's probably still going to win, and that's not the best thing for her or for this country.
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> If it’s a primary with Katie Porter, I won’t vote for Feinstein.
[ "Feinstein is turning 90 this year. And unlike the right's talking points about Biden, rumors of serious cognitive decline for her are much more concrete and concerning. I really hope she has the grace to retire and enjoy her sunset years instead of muddying her legacy with the mess another term would likely turn into. Because here's the thing, if she runs, she's probably still going to win, and that's not the best thing for her or for this country." ]
> Why would you vote for Feinstein at this age in any primary? Katie Porter or not?
[ "Feinstein is turning 90 this year. And unlike the right's talking points about Biden, rumors of serious cognitive decline for her are much more concrete and concerning. I really hope she has the grace to retire and enjoy her sunset years instead of muddying her legacy with the mess another term would likely turn into. Because here's the thing, if she runs, she's probably still going to win, and that's not the best thing for her or for this country.", ">\n\nIf it’s a primary with Katie Porter, I won’t vote for Feinstein." ]
> We’re gonna need a bigger whiteboard!
[ "Feinstein is turning 90 this year. And unlike the right's talking points about Biden, rumors of serious cognitive decline for her are much more concrete and concerning. I really hope she has the grace to retire and enjoy her sunset years instead of muddying her legacy with the mess another term would likely turn into. Because here's the thing, if she runs, she's probably still going to win, and that's not the best thing for her or for this country.", ">\n\nIf it’s a primary with Katie Porter, I won’t vote for Feinstein.", ">\n\nWhy would you vote for Feinstein at this age in any primary? Katie Porter or not?" ]
> Her districted got remapped this cycle and she basically had to introduce herself all over again to voters, and still won in a tough environment. She’d be amazing in the Senate, and smart of her to jump out early and get ahead of other potential candidates. Now we just have to hope Feinstein’s massive ego doesn’t cause her to mount an absurd reelection bid in ‘24
[ "Feinstein is turning 90 this year. And unlike the right's talking points about Biden, rumors of serious cognitive decline for her are much more concrete and concerning. I really hope she has the grace to retire and enjoy her sunset years instead of muddying her legacy with the mess another term would likely turn into. Because here's the thing, if she runs, she's probably still going to win, and that's not the best thing for her or for this country.", ">\n\nIf it’s a primary with Katie Porter, I won’t vote for Feinstein.", ">\n\nWhy would you vote for Feinstein at this age in any primary? Katie Porter or not?", ">\n\nWe’re gonna need a bigger whiteboard!" ]
> Feinstein is 89, and don't members of the Senate whisper that cognitively she's in serious decline? I honestly don't get any senator that is so old they don't just retire and enjoy their remaining days on Earth relaxing.
[ "Feinstein is turning 90 this year. And unlike the right's talking points about Biden, rumors of serious cognitive decline for her are much more concrete and concerning. I really hope she has the grace to retire and enjoy her sunset years instead of muddying her legacy with the mess another term would likely turn into. Because here's the thing, if she runs, she's probably still going to win, and that's not the best thing for her or for this country.", ">\n\nIf it’s a primary with Katie Porter, I won’t vote for Feinstein.", ">\n\nWhy would you vote for Feinstein at this age in any primary? Katie Porter or not?", ">\n\nWe’re gonna need a bigger whiteboard!", ">\n\nHer districted got remapped this cycle and she basically had to introduce herself all over again to voters, and still won in a tough environment.\nShe’d be amazing in the Senate, and smart of her to jump out early and get ahead of other potential candidates. Now we just have to hope Feinstein’s massive ego doesn’t cause her to mount an absurd reelection bid in ‘24" ]
> There’s no whispering, people in her office have talked about it with the press.
[ "Feinstein is turning 90 this year. And unlike the right's talking points about Biden, rumors of serious cognitive decline for her are much more concrete and concerning. I really hope she has the grace to retire and enjoy her sunset years instead of muddying her legacy with the mess another term would likely turn into. Because here's the thing, if she runs, she's probably still going to win, and that's not the best thing for her or for this country.", ">\n\nIf it’s a primary with Katie Porter, I won’t vote for Feinstein.", ">\n\nWhy would you vote for Feinstein at this age in any primary? Katie Porter or not?", ">\n\nWe’re gonna need a bigger whiteboard!", ">\n\nHer districted got remapped this cycle and she basically had to introduce herself all over again to voters, and still won in a tough environment.\nShe’d be amazing in the Senate, and smart of her to jump out early and get ahead of other potential candidates. Now we just have to hope Feinstein’s massive ego doesn’t cause her to mount an absurd reelection bid in ‘24", ">\n\nFeinstein is 89, and don't members of the Senate whisper that cognitively she's in serious decline? I honestly don't get any senator that is so old they don't just retire and enjoy their remaining days on Earth relaxing." ]