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My neighbor, was a regular on American Bandstand in the 70s. She and her friends came up with using their hands and arms to spell out YMCA when The Village People played that song on AB. She was in a documentary about American Bandstand, and she told the story how they just came up with it on the fly. | [
"Dre tells her to forget about Dre.",
">\n\nFor clarity, this is Marjorie Taylor Greene",
">\n\nOh the terrorist, thanks for confirming",
">\n\nThe party of Law and Order",
">\n\nnever pay your debts, never ask permission, never care for the sick/vets/elderly, never be charitable, never apologize, never tell the truth, never keep your word - tenets of the modern right",
">\n\nThis title doesn't do the story justice.\nThrough his lawyers, Dr. Dre gave the equivalent of a public pantsing to MTG. Every eloquent syllable was more erotic than the one preceding it.\nEdited because I'm an idiot.",
">\n\nAnd then she responded in turn saying that he was a bad influence with his music…the same music she tried using.",
">\n\nShe's a garbage human. I hope all artists follow Dr. Dre's lead here.",
">\n\ni've never gotten over the layered irony-onion that was donald trump using arguably the gayest song of all time, performed by some very gay men (and against the gay men's wishes - although i suppose that was kind of trump's thing) singing about how yummy \"macho\" men are - all to attempt to unironically convey just how \"macho\" he was irl\nhow the people in those crowds weren't weeping with hysterical laughter i'll never understand \nlike if a guy showed up to a fist-fight wearing nothing but ass-less chaps and a stetson and warning you not to mess with him cause he was a \"cowboy\""
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Did she forget about Dre?
And I know that I'm in a position of controlling anything out by that ocean. I’m a boss, I'll buy that ocean, ain't nobody fucking with this | [
"Dre tells her to forget about Dre.",
">\n\nFor clarity, this is Marjorie Taylor Greene",
">\n\nOh the terrorist, thanks for confirming",
">\n\nThe party of Law and Order",
">\n\nnever pay your debts, never ask permission, never care for the sick/vets/elderly, never be charitable, never apologize, never tell the truth, never keep your word - tenets of the modern right",
">\n\nThis title doesn't do the story justice.\nThrough his lawyers, Dr. Dre gave the equivalent of a public pantsing to MTG. Every eloquent syllable was more erotic than the one preceding it.\nEdited because I'm an idiot.",
">\n\nAnd then she responded in turn saying that he was a bad influence with his music…the same music she tried using.",
">\n\nShe's a garbage human. I hope all artists follow Dr. Dre's lead here.",
">\n\ni've never gotten over the layered irony-onion that was donald trump using arguably the gayest song of all time, performed by some very gay men (and against the gay men's wishes - although i suppose that was kind of trump's thing) singing about how yummy \"macho\" men are - all to attempt to unironically convey just how \"macho\" he was irl\nhow the people in those crowds weren't weeping with hysterical laughter i'll never understand \nlike if a guy showed up to a fist-fight wearing nothing but ass-less chaps and a stetson and warning you not to mess with him cause he was a \"cowboy\"",
">\n\nMy neighbor, was a regular on American Bandstand in the 70s. She and her friends came up with using their hands and arms to spell out YMCA when The Village People played that song on AB. She was in a documentary about American Bandstand, and she told the story how they just came up with it on the fly."
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"Dre tells her to forget about Dre.",
">\n\nFor clarity, this is Marjorie Taylor Greene",
">\n\nOh the terrorist, thanks for confirming",
">\n\nThe party of Law and Order",
">\n\nnever pay your debts, never ask permission, never care for the sick/vets/elderly, never be charitable, never apologize, never tell the truth, never keep your word - tenets of the modern right",
">\n\nThis title doesn't do the story justice.\nThrough his lawyers, Dr. Dre gave the equivalent of a public pantsing to MTG. Every eloquent syllable was more erotic than the one preceding it.\nEdited because I'm an idiot.",
">\n\nAnd then she responded in turn saying that he was a bad influence with his music…the same music she tried using.",
">\n\nShe's a garbage human. I hope all artists follow Dr. Dre's lead here.",
">\n\ni've never gotten over the layered irony-onion that was donald trump using arguably the gayest song of all time, performed by some very gay men (and against the gay men's wishes - although i suppose that was kind of trump's thing) singing about how yummy \"macho\" men are - all to attempt to unironically convey just how \"macho\" he was irl\nhow the people in those crowds weren't weeping with hysterical laughter i'll never understand \nlike if a guy showed up to a fist-fight wearing nothing but ass-less chaps and a stetson and warning you not to mess with him cause he was a \"cowboy\"",
">\n\nMy neighbor, was a regular on American Bandstand in the 70s. She and her friends came up with using their hands and arms to spell out YMCA when The Village People played that song on AB. She was in a documentary about American Bandstand, and she told the story how they just came up with it on the fly.",
">\n\nDid she forget about Dre?\n\nAnd I know that I'm in a position of controlling anything out by that ocean. I’m a boss, I'll buy that ocean, ain't nobody fucking with this"
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That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong. | [] |
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Same. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.
Amazing news in any case. | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong."
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Yeah, I’m sure it was the key.
For years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it.
And so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.
If this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive.
TLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event. | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case."
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It's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate. | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event."
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Thanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard! | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate."
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Great news! I can't help but wonder how many broken ribs he has from the cpr . . . | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate.",
">\n\nThanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard!"
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Avg is 30% break a rib, and of those an additional 60% break more than one. That we know of at least. The chance of things breaking varies a lot.
I'd be more worried about the intubation damage to the throat and oxygen damage to his lungs. On the good end he'll be back to "normal" in a month or so, on the bad end it could take him out of the season or NFL entirely. | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate.",
">\n\nThanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard!",
">\n\nGreat news! I can't help but wonder how many broken ribs he has from the cpr . . ."
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I hated starting CPR on old frail people. Worst feeling ever. | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate.",
">\n\nThanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard!",
">\n\nGreat news! I can't help but wonder how many broken ribs he has from the cpr . . .",
">\n\nAvg is 30% break a rib, and of those an additional 60% break more than one. That we know of at least. The chance of things breaking varies a lot.\nI'd be more worried about the intubation damage to the throat and oxygen damage to his lungs. On the good end he'll be back to \"normal\" in a month or so, on the bad end it could take him out of the season or NFL entirely."
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It’s nice to read positive news for once | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate.",
">\n\nThanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard!",
">\n\nGreat news! I can't help but wonder how many broken ribs he has from the cpr . . .",
">\n\nAvg is 30% break a rib, and of those an additional 60% break more than one. That we know of at least. The chance of things breaking varies a lot.\nI'd be more worried about the intubation damage to the throat and oxygen damage to his lungs. On the good end he'll be back to \"normal\" in a month or so, on the bad end it could take him out of the season or NFL entirely.",
">\n\nI hated starting CPR on old frail people. Worst feeling ever."
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cardiac arrest, which is considered a life-threatening event,
You don't say! | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate.",
">\n\nThanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard!",
">\n\nGreat news! I can't help but wonder how many broken ribs he has from the cpr . . .",
">\n\nAvg is 30% break a rib, and of those an additional 60% break more than one. That we know of at least. The chance of things breaking varies a lot.\nI'd be more worried about the intubation damage to the throat and oxygen damage to his lungs. On the good end he'll be back to \"normal\" in a month or so, on the bad end it could take him out of the season or NFL entirely.",
">\n\nI hated starting CPR on old frail people. Worst feeling ever.",
">\n\nIt’s nice to read positive news for once"
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I read medical notes for a living. you'd be shocked how many times a day I have moments like that | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate.",
">\n\nThanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard!",
">\n\nGreat news! I can't help but wonder how many broken ribs he has from the cpr . . .",
">\n\nAvg is 30% break a rib, and of those an additional 60% break more than one. That we know of at least. The chance of things breaking varies a lot.\nI'd be more worried about the intubation damage to the throat and oxygen damage to his lungs. On the good end he'll be back to \"normal\" in a month or so, on the bad end it could take him out of the season or NFL entirely.",
">\n\nI hated starting CPR on old frail people. Worst feeling ever.",
">\n\nIt’s nice to read positive news for once",
">\n\n\ncardiac arrest, which is considered a life-threatening event, \n\nYou don't say!"
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I can't wait to see all the people thanking God with prayer emojis on Facebook | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate.",
">\n\nThanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard!",
">\n\nGreat news! I can't help but wonder how many broken ribs he has from the cpr . . .",
">\n\nAvg is 30% break a rib, and of those an additional 60% break more than one. That we know of at least. The chance of things breaking varies a lot.\nI'd be more worried about the intubation damage to the throat and oxygen damage to his lungs. On the good end he'll be back to \"normal\" in a month or so, on the bad end it could take him out of the season or NFL entirely.",
">\n\nI hated starting CPR on old frail people. Worst feeling ever.",
">\n\nIt’s nice to read positive news for once",
">\n\n\ncardiac arrest, which is considered a life-threatening event, \n\nYou don't say!",
">\n\nI read medical notes for a living. you'd be shocked how many times a day I have moments like that"
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Given the nature of the injury I would assume he will return to play and probably excel at his position. Good luck!! | [
"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate.",
">\n\nThanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard!",
">\n\nGreat news! I can't help but wonder how many broken ribs he has from the cpr . . .",
">\n\nAvg is 30% break a rib, and of those an additional 60% break more than one. That we know of at least. The chance of things breaking varies a lot.\nI'd be more worried about the intubation damage to the throat and oxygen damage to his lungs. On the good end he'll be back to \"normal\" in a month or so, on the bad end it could take him out of the season or NFL entirely.",
">\n\nI hated starting CPR on old frail people. Worst feeling ever.",
">\n\nIt’s nice to read positive news for once",
">\n\n\ncardiac arrest, which is considered a life-threatening event, \n\nYou don't say!",
">\n\nI read medical notes for a living. you'd be shocked how many times a day I have moments like that",
">\n\nI can't wait to see all the people thanking God with prayer emojis on Facebook"
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"That is really good news. Honestly didn't think he would recover given the length of CPR needed, very glad to see I was wrong.",
">\n\nSame. I hate to say that I thought he was a goner or at least had brain damage. It seems they were pumping him with oxygen the entire time his heart was stopped. Maybe that was they key, dunno.\nAmazing news in any case.",
">\n\nYeah, I’m sure it was the key. \nFor years the NFL’s biggest fear has been having a player die on a highly watched nationally televised game. It’s hard to say football is “safe” when 30 million people watch a guy die playing it. \nAnd so every stadium has well-rehearsed drills for cardiac and airway events (as well as high-level medical specialists on hand) to get severely injured players the best immediate care and the fastest evac possible to a level 1 trauma center.\nIf this happened at a high school or college game, I don’t know that he’d still be alive. \nTLDR; an NFL field is probably the best place on earth for a commotio cordis event.",
">\n\nIt's happened to teens playing impact sports, even baseball, and there's not a great survival rate.",
">\n\nThanks to all the medical staff that worked so hard!",
">\n\nGreat news! I can't help but wonder how many broken ribs he has from the cpr . . .",
">\n\nAvg is 30% break a rib, and of those an additional 60% break more than one. That we know of at least. The chance of things breaking varies a lot.\nI'd be more worried about the intubation damage to the throat and oxygen damage to his lungs. On the good end he'll be back to \"normal\" in a month or so, on the bad end it could take him out of the season or NFL entirely.",
">\n\nI hated starting CPR on old frail people. Worst feeling ever.",
">\n\nIt’s nice to read positive news for once",
">\n\n\ncardiac arrest, which is considered a life-threatening event, \n\nYou don't say!",
">\n\nI read medical notes for a living. you'd be shocked how many times a day I have moments like that",
">\n\nI can't wait to see all the people thanking God with prayer emojis on Facebook",
">\n\nGiven the nature of the injury I would assume he will return to play and probably excel at his position. Good luck!!"
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Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God. | [] |
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I came here to say exactly that .. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God."
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Seriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like "i wonder what the "Dems" have to say about this one". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that .."
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It's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying "it's not as bad as what trump did."
There is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump."
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Except it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken."
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Except it's not as bad...
Except that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch."
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An oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less "bad" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters."
] |
>
Nobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark"
] |
>
This for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal."
] |
>
I love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do."
] |
>
BoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe! | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd."
] |
>
“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.
Lies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned.
Mr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.
Since the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!"
] |
>
Correct. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story."
] |
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Exactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden"
] |
>
So by 2019 these would be basically useless. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors."
] |
>
That's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless."
] |
>
The situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a "will not pursue" issue. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old."
] |
>
The media is so bloodthirsty for "both sides" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue."
] |
>
Interesting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries...
Of course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office.
This all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative."
] |
>
Unfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality."
] |
>
Biden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.
HOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works."
] |
>
At the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so."
] |
>
That's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents."
] |
>
As briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through? | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand."
] |
>
Yes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?"
] |
>
Oh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.
Had they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.
Who cares? | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement."
] |
>
Wait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square??????????????? | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?"
] |
>
Oh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well... | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????"
] |
>
Do people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ? | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well..."
] |
>
Others have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?"
] |
>
I think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS."
] |
>
Planted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances."
] |
>
I would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden."
] |
>
So fucking what? | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago."
] |
>
This is propaganda to let Trump off from his criminality. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago.",
">\n\nSo fucking what?"
] |
>
It will work as propaganda as intended. The average person is ignorant as fuck and will see this as comparing "apples to apples". | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago.",
">\n\nSo fucking what?",
">\n\nThis is propaganda to let Trump off from his criminality."
] |
>
This was the best they could find? | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago.",
">\n\nSo fucking what?",
">\n\nThis is propaganda to let Trump off from his criminality.",
">\n\nIt will work as propaganda as intended. The average person is ignorant as fuck and will see this as comparing \"apples to apples\"."
] |
>
No nuke documents? | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago.",
">\n\nSo fucking what?",
">\n\nThis is propaganda to let Trump off from his criminality.",
">\n\nIt will work as propaganda as intended. The average person is ignorant as fuck and will see this as comparing \"apples to apples\".",
">\n\nThis was the best they could find?"
] |
>
There's a difference between Biden & Trump. Trump had these files in an unsecured area. Biden had these classified documents in a locked chest, etc. The National Archives were also asking for documents that Trump had, whereas they weren't actively looking for the documents that Biden had. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago.",
">\n\nSo fucking what?",
">\n\nThis is propaganda to let Trump off from his criminality.",
">\n\nIt will work as propaganda as intended. The average person is ignorant as fuck and will see this as comparing \"apples to apples\".",
">\n\nThis was the best they could find?",
">\n\nNo nuke documents?"
] |
>
lmao but when Trump has some the expensive metal surname FBI bursts in | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago.",
">\n\nSo fucking what?",
">\n\nThis is propaganda to let Trump off from his criminality.",
">\n\nIt will work as propaganda as intended. The average person is ignorant as fuck and will see this as comparing \"apples to apples\".",
">\n\nThis was the best they could find?",
">\n\nNo nuke documents?",
">\n\nThere's a difference between Biden & Trump. Trump had these files in an unsecured area. Biden had these classified documents in a locked chest, etc. The National Archives were also asking for documents that Trump had, whereas they weren't actively looking for the documents that Biden had."
] |
>
Because he lied about having them, then fought NARA for a year, then tried to sue to keep them. Seems pretty different from discovering classified docs in an old office, immediately letting NARA know, then promptly turning them over and welcoming an investigation, doesn’t it? | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago.",
">\n\nSo fucking what?",
">\n\nThis is propaganda to let Trump off from his criminality.",
">\n\nIt will work as propaganda as intended. The average person is ignorant as fuck and will see this as comparing \"apples to apples\".",
">\n\nThis was the best they could find?",
">\n\nNo nuke documents?",
">\n\nThere's a difference between Biden & Trump. Trump had these files in an unsecured area. Biden had these classified documents in a locked chest, etc. The National Archives were also asking for documents that Trump had, whereas they weren't actively looking for the documents that Biden had.",
">\n\nlmao but when Trump has some the expensive metal surname FBI bursts in"
] |
>
Plus donnie had well over 300, biden had 11. It's like you mentioned though, the biggest difference is in intent, and that is what will matter in any court. Bidens lawyers immediately did what they were supposed to do as set by rules for when this happens but the morons on the right will ignore that for as long as they can. | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago.",
">\n\nSo fucking what?",
">\n\nThis is propaganda to let Trump off from his criminality.",
">\n\nIt will work as propaganda as intended. The average person is ignorant as fuck and will see this as comparing \"apples to apples\".",
">\n\nThis was the best they could find?",
">\n\nNo nuke documents?",
">\n\nThere's a difference between Biden & Trump. Trump had these files in an unsecured area. Biden had these classified documents in a locked chest, etc. The National Archives were also asking for documents that Trump had, whereas they weren't actively looking for the documents that Biden had.",
">\n\nlmao but when Trump has some the expensive metal surname FBI bursts in",
">\n\nBecause he lied about having them, then fought NARA for a year, then tried to sue to keep them. Seems pretty different from discovering classified docs in an old office, immediately letting NARA know, then promptly turning them over and welcoming an investigation, doesn’t it?"
] |
> | [
"Then investigate him. If wrongdoing is found significant enough for charges, then charge him. Same with the Orange God.",
">\n\nI came here to say exactly that ..",
">\n\nSeriously. The chucklefucks in r/conservative are all like \"i wonder what the \"Dems\" have to say about this one\". We think mishandling of classified information should be investigated? Are they admitting it's a crime now? The left's stance on investigations into this kind of thing hasn't changed between biden and trump.",
">\n\nIt's not just in /r/conservative, there are a lot of people on this sub saying \"it's not as bad as what trump did.\" \nThere is zero reason for Biden to have any classified documents in an unauthorized area ESPECIALLY after the FBI very publicly investigated Clinton for her server. Lessons should have been learned and precautions taken.",
">\n\nExcept it's not as bad...do we have proof Biden even knew the stuff was there? Like, let's say he was told that all the stuff had been cleared out, was he supposed to go down there in person and verify that? Like, how many places does he work out of? I'd think quite a bunch.",
">\n\n\nExcept it's not as bad...\n\nExcept that it's still bad and illegal and that's what matters.",
">\n\nAn oversight made in error with a classified dociment set is like, a trillion times less \"bad\" than knowingly taking and trying to move hundreds of TOP SECRET documents. They're not even in the same ballpark",
">\n\nNobody made a big deal when Trump turned over documents the first time either. It was only when he started lying about them that it became a big story. As long as these were just standard documents and not something that looks like a coverup of some sort this should not be a big deal.",
">\n\nThis for Christ's sake. Mistakes happen, if you correct it, no big deal. The Orange God kept telling the government he didn't have the docs they knew he had and got raided by the FBI becauseof it. These are two very different things. Conservatives are grasping at straws because they have no idea what else to do.",
">\n\nI love the pretend outrage from Trump's sheep herd.",
">\n\nBoTh SiDeS aRe tHe SaMe!",
">\n\n\n“Meanwhile, the F.B.I. conducted a raid on former President Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence for the same violation,” Mr. Comer said.\n\nLies. Trump was raided because he refused multiple requests for the documents to be returned. \n\nMr. Garland then assigned Mr. Lausch to conduct a so-called initial investigation aimed at gathering facts and legal research to inform whether it would be appropriate to appoint a special counsel.\n\nSince the documents were returned on 11/3/22, there could be as much as two months of initial investigation done. We haven't heard about any of it until now, which leads me to believe there's not much to the story.",
">\n\nCorrect. This is the beginnings of faux impeachment drums starting up. They'll let Trump slide just to have a shot at Biden",
">\n\nExactly. The issue with Trump wasn't that he had the materials, it's that he refused to return them. This is literally Biden doing the right thing when no one was even looking. But they'll fucking impeach him anyway because they are God damn traitors.",
">\n\nSo by 2019 these would be basically useless.",
">\n\nThat's what I thought when I heard it was from his time as VP. The materials are potentially more than a decade old.",
">\n\nThe situation is that if this was a serious one we would have heard about it much earlier. I bet this is a \"will not pursue\" issue.",
">\n\nThe media is so bloodthirsty for \"both sides\" coverage that they have to find some isolated incident with no indication of bad intent to counteract the narrative.",
">\n\nInteresting that this should come up now while Trump got busted stealing classified top secret documents and keeping them in his Florida casa while likely sharing them with agents from different countries... \nOf course Biden looked over classified documents. He didn't steal them and take them to his house after leaving office. \nThis all seems like a stunt to let Trump get off from his criminality.",
">\n\nUnfortunately for trump that’s not how the DOJ works.",
">\n\nBiden has returned the documents that were found and has so far cooperated with the relevant government agencies in making sure this issue gets resolved. I don’t think he was trying to keep classified documents from where they rightfully belong.\nHOWEVER, this is something that is still very serious and something we deserve an explanation for. Those documents do long belong to a former vice president (at the time he had them) and I would like to know why he kept them and if he followed the proper channels to do so.",
">\n\nAt the very least, that's two terms in a row where this happened. Someone needs to do a serious review of how we administer confidential documents.",
">\n\nThat's what pisses me off. Is that this is going to translate to upgrading security, which means more money. We pay so much for security, everyone needs to do their part to uphold it. Everyone. Security should be treated seriously due to the cost of defense. It should be a zero sum game. No mistakes. I'm sorry but given the money spent on all of it, no it's not too much to demand.",
">\n\nAs briefing materials, wouldn't they be handed to VP by someone? Why would they not be collected after he was through?",
">\n\nYes. My understanding is there is an attaché who handles these documents and is ultimately responsible for their securement.",
">\n\nOh, OK. Was he purposefully keeping the documents? No. Were they immediately returned when found? Yes.\nHad they apparently been seen by no one in six years? Seems that way.\nWho cares?",
">\n\nWait I thought a sitting President could murder someone in Time Square???????????????",
">\n\nOh boy, a conversation that requires critical thought and context to understand the delicacies of its merits. This should go well...",
">\n\nDo people realise that being as he is the President right very now, he can have access to all the classified material that he wants ?",
">\n\nOthers have pointed out that he likely had clearance to possess these documents even between his times as VP and POTUS.",
">\n\nI think Trump vindictively removed his and Obama’s clearances.",
">\n\nPlanted by Republican operatives, this is a deep state plot against Biden.",
">\n\nI would not be surprised given the amount of projection the goP does, and the amount of screaming they did about the FBI having planted documents and Maralago.",
">\n\nSo fucking what?",
">\n\nThis is propaganda to let Trump off from his criminality.",
">\n\nIt will work as propaganda as intended. The average person is ignorant as fuck and will see this as comparing \"apples to apples\".",
">\n\nThis was the best they could find?",
">\n\nNo nuke documents?",
">\n\nThere's a difference between Biden & Trump. Trump had these files in an unsecured area. Biden had these classified documents in a locked chest, etc. The National Archives were also asking for documents that Trump had, whereas they weren't actively looking for the documents that Biden had.",
">\n\nlmao but when Trump has some the expensive metal surname FBI bursts in",
">\n\nBecause he lied about having them, then fought NARA for a year, then tried to sue to keep them. Seems pretty different from discovering classified docs in an old office, immediately letting NARA know, then promptly turning them over and welcoming an investigation, doesn’t it?",
">\n\nPlus donnie had well over 300, biden had 11. It's like you mentioned though, the biggest difference is in intent, and that is what will matter in any court. Bidens lawyers immediately did what they were supposed to do as set by rules for when this happens but the morons on the right will ignore that for as long as they can."
] |
Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around! | [] |
>
Schiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.
If Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!"
] |
>
Schiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front."
] |
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I think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not."
] |
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I am totally down for a president Katie Porter. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would."
] |
>
Same. She is absolutely insanely intelligent. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter."
] |
>
And not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent."
] |
>
It looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.
I am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate! | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention."
] |
>
Porter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.
Wonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!"
] |
>
She definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire."
] |
>
If she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity.
It is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses."
] |
>
Because it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat."
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Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.
You mean you're not interested in reading about a "senator" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams? | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama."
] |
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Oh God, are they not?! | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?"
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Not far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!"
] |
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Nice. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it."
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This is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice."
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Nonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way."
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The god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough."
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Haha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective! | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein."
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She was born 26 years before Alaska became a state. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!"
] |
>
Katie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state."
] |
>
Now its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018."
] |
>
True. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice."
] |
>
She’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her."
] |
>
She won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire). | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though"
] |
>
California is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for.
Katie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire)."
] |
>
Kevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for."
] |
>
DeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein"
] |
>
Yeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down."
] |
>
I voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting."
] |
>
She's a gift, CA. It shouldn't even be a question of dumping Feinstein for her. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting.",
">\n\nI voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do."
] |
>
Whiteboard’s going all the way to the Oval Office! A girl can dream. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting.",
">\n\nI voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do.",
">\n\nShe's a gift, CA. It shouldn't even be a question of dumping Feinstein for her."
] |
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For real, she is my dream candidate. If your superpower is "i can dumb stuff down so even idiots understand" you're SORELY needed in this country. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting.",
">\n\nI voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do.",
">\n\nShe's a gift, CA. It shouldn't even be a question of dumping Feinstein for her.",
">\n\nWhiteboard’s going all the way to the Oval Office! A girl can dream."
] |
>
Eats popcorn while Katie schools CEOs | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting.",
">\n\nI voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do.",
">\n\nShe's a gift, CA. It shouldn't even be a question of dumping Feinstein for her.",
">\n\nWhiteboard’s going all the way to the Oval Office! A girl can dream.",
">\n\nFor real, she is my dream candidate. If your superpower is \"i can dumb stuff down so even idiots understand\" you're SORELY needed in this country."
] |
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CEOs know... they are psychopaths that only care about money and given the best spot in society because capitalism. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting.",
">\n\nI voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do.",
">\n\nShe's a gift, CA. It shouldn't even be a question of dumping Feinstein for her.",
">\n\nWhiteboard’s going all the way to the Oval Office! A girl can dream.",
">\n\nFor real, she is my dream candidate. If your superpower is \"i can dumb stuff down so even idiots understand\" you're SORELY needed in this country.",
">\n\nEats popcorn while Katie schools CEOs"
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"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting.",
">\n\nI voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do.",
">\n\nShe's a gift, CA. It shouldn't even be a question of dumping Feinstein for her.",
">\n\nWhiteboard’s going all the way to the Oval Office! A girl can dream.",
">\n\nFor real, she is my dream candidate. If your superpower is \"i can dumb stuff down so even idiots understand\" you're SORELY needed in this country.",
">\n\nEats popcorn while Katie schools CEOs",
">\n\nCEOs know... they are psychopaths that only care about money and given the best spot in society because capitalism."
] |
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It would be better for Feinstein to go voluntarily, but she has had troubles over the last few years, so I guess this is a necessary step. And Katie is great. I hope this works out for her. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting.",
">\n\nI voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do.",
">\n\nShe's a gift, CA. It shouldn't even be a question of dumping Feinstein for her.",
">\n\nWhiteboard’s going all the way to the Oval Office! A girl can dream.",
">\n\nFor real, she is my dream candidate. If your superpower is \"i can dumb stuff down so even idiots understand\" you're SORELY needed in this country.",
">\n\nEats popcorn while Katie schools CEOs",
">\n\nCEOs know... they are psychopaths that only care about money and given the best spot in society because capitalism.",
">\n\nLet's dispel with this fiction that CEOs don't know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing."
] |
>
Yes! This is exactly the kind of direction we need to go with Democrats. More progressive fighters. People willing to push the bully back.
Interestingly, she was a student of Elizabeth Warren when Warren was a professor. I kind of feel they're cut from the same cloth in the way they approach policy and issues: act as a teacher. Democrats should adopt a teacher model and start educating the public with a whiteboard the same way Porter has done. Most people are just too uninformed on the issues, and when they're genuinely knowledgeable it becomes clear the right path for this country.
Edit:
Some are expressing valid concern that adopting a "teacher" mode can come off as condescending. I don't think it has to. We all know those great teachers who inspired us or even played devil's advocate to success. But it doesn't even need to be framed like that; it literally just needs to be 30 seconds to 2 minute ads introducing a topic or policy or issue or myth or basic civics thing that people get tripped up on (e.g., myths surrounding taxes). Just be factual and to the point, illustrative, and provide a source. That's all.
But more importantly, Katie Porter's viral messages have proven their success as a model already, both among Democrats and Independents alike. Good news is we're realizing as of recent elections that we don't particularly need to appeal to Republicans in order to win anymore. We can hope for the best that some of the teaching carries through, but that's about it. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting.",
">\n\nI voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do.",
">\n\nShe's a gift, CA. It shouldn't even be a question of dumping Feinstein for her.",
">\n\nWhiteboard’s going all the way to the Oval Office! A girl can dream.",
">\n\nFor real, she is my dream candidate. If your superpower is \"i can dumb stuff down so even idiots understand\" you're SORELY needed in this country.",
">\n\nEats popcorn while Katie schools CEOs",
">\n\nCEOs know... they are psychopaths that only care about money and given the best spot in society because capitalism.",
">\n\nLet's dispel with this fiction that CEOs don't know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing.",
">\n\nIt would be better for Feinstein to go voluntarily, but she has had troubles over the last few years, so I guess this is a necessary step. And Katie is great. I hope this works out for her."
] |
>
I want Porter in higher office… and I don’t necessarily disagree with what you’re saying… however, I think the people watching Porter with her whiteboard are already pretty educated.
Most voters tune politics out of their lives more or less. They aren’t watching cspan or reading email blasts from their politicians.
Definitely agree the Democrats need to educate the public as to the nature of reality. I think it is far less of an issue with Millenials onward in general. There’s little Democrats can do to crack the nut that is a legitimate cult and organized corporate conspiracy to brainwash America and turn us against each other.
Hell, the Southern Strategy is widely known to be objectively true along with the party platform switch, but people still downplay or deny it. You have liberals putting faith before country and reason and involving themselves with bullshit conservative ops like National Prayer Breakfast (which is just a lobby for a Dominionist (Christian theonomy dictatorship) cult.
We need our own counter message. And simply telling the truth isn’t working because the lies of the right are more engaging and heavily incentivized by corporations as part of their normal lobbying cycle. | [
"Wow, I was really expecting a run by Schiff, but kudos to Porter for not lallygagging around!",
">\n\nSchiff could still put his hat in, but he has a great position in the House. He's the top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee, and a senior member on both Appropriations and Foreign Affairs. Porter is a two-term backbencher who sits at the bottom of every committee she gets assigned to.\nIf Schiff stepped up, he'd be the new guy in the Senate and give up all the benefits of his House seniority. Porter doesn't have anything to lose on that front.",
">\n\nSchiff also has a very safe seat, and Porter does not.",
">\n\nI think Porter also has a brighter future in the party. I wouldn't be shocked if she runs for president at some point down the line. I don't think Schiff ever would.",
">\n\nI am totally down for a president Katie Porter.",
">\n\nSame. She is absolutely insanely intelligent.",
">\n\nAnd not only insanely intelligent but a brilliant teacher. She can get her point across so effortlessly. We need her to get more attention.",
">\n\nIt looks effortless, but as a former litigator, I suspect she puts a ridiculous amount of time into her research and preparation, making it seem that way. She is just outstanding.\nI am so thrilled to hear she's running. She's one of the very few politicians I am legitimately excited about, and despite having two jobs and little downtime, I will gladly volunteer for her campaign. Yay Katie, bring that whiteboard of shame to the Senate!",
">\n\n\nPorter made her announcement despite neither of California’s sitting senators, Democrats Dianne Feinstein and Alex Padilla, saying they plan to vacate their seats. Padilla, 49, won election in November to his first full term. Feinstein, 89, last year filed initial paperwork to run for reelection in 2024.\n\nWonder if the party is putting the gears to Feinstein to finally retire.",
">\n\nShe definitely needs to retire. Katie should primary her if she refuses.",
">\n\nIf she won’t willingly retire, then Katie needs to brutally punish Feinstein for her failing mental capacity. \nIt is embarrassing that the party is not more vocal in trying to get her to retire today, let alone not support a primary challenger to her seat.",
">\n\nBecause it's been a nonstop torrent of insanity for two and a half years, and I can barely hold onto the stuff I need for my local elections, never mind worry about a senate election in CA that'll produce a Democrat every time. Same reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.",
">\n\n\nSame reason I don't pay attention to senate news stories in Alabama.\n\nYou mean you're not interested in reading about a \"senator\" who thinks the three branches of government are Offense, Defense, and Special Teams?",
">\n\nOh God, are they not?!",
">\n\nNot far from it. The previous administration was offensive, defensive, and required a special team to handle it.",
">\n\nNice.",
">\n\nThis is good. No more sitting back politely waiting for octogenarians to get out of the way.",
">\n\nNonogenerians. Feinstein will be 90 soon enough.",
">\n\nThe god damn Golden Gate Bridge is younger than Feinstein.",
">\n\nHaha, I thought you were exaggerating and looked it up. Holy crap, that's some perspective!",
">\n\nShe was born 26 years before Alaska became a state.",
">\n\nKatie Porter would be a great person to have in the Senate. Feinstein should have retired back in 2018.",
">\n\nNow its Katie Porter instead of Kevin deLeon, probably a better choice.",
">\n\nTrue. Katie Porter is probably my second most respected politician, after Bernie. I wish we had more Dems like her.",
">\n\nShe’s a straight up G carrying around that white board and making easy to understand clear points. I basically wish we had any dems here. I mean we have James Clyburn. But that’s literally it. Voting last year was horrible because a bunch of races were unopposed R seats and the one thing I was super excited to vote for didn’t work out. I’m ready to vote graham out but I don’t see that happening since we don’t have many strong candidates here. Still doing my part though",
">\n\nShe won a close race this past election. Depending on the quality of the republican presidential nominee, 2024 might be even tougher. Makes sense to see if she can primary Feinstein (if she doesn’t retire).",
">\n\nCalifornia is sick to death of Feinstein, there just hasn't been a Democrat willing to primary her who was worth voting for. \nKatie Porter is absolutely the kind of Democrat worth voting for.",
">\n\nKevin Deleon is still on the LA Board of Supervisors since if he resigns, he can’t primary Feinstein",
">\n\nDeLeon is such a piece of shit and I really want him to resign. It's infuriating that he's still refusing to step down.",
">\n\nYeah, I'm not even sure how to feel about voting for him in 2018. On the one hand, he's clearly a grifter, racist adjacent, shameless ass hat. On the other, he's not Diane Feinstein. If it was those two again, I think I'd actually sit it out for the first time in 20 years of voting.",
">\n\nI voted for him too in that election because I wanted Feinstein out so bad. What a terrible choice that was! She HAS to go. They both do.",
">\n\nShe's a gift, CA. It shouldn't even be a question of dumping Feinstein for her.",
">\n\nWhiteboard’s going all the way to the Oval Office! A girl can dream.",
">\n\nFor real, she is my dream candidate. If your superpower is \"i can dumb stuff down so even idiots understand\" you're SORELY needed in this country.",
">\n\nEats popcorn while Katie schools CEOs",
">\n\nCEOs know... they are psychopaths that only care about money and given the best spot in society because capitalism.",
">\n\nLet's dispel with this fiction that CEOs don't know what they're doing. They know exactly what they're doing.",
">\n\nIt would be better for Feinstein to go voluntarily, but she has had troubles over the last few years, so I guess this is a necessary step. And Katie is great. I hope this works out for her.",
">\n\nYes! This is exactly the kind of direction we need to go with Democrats. More progressive fighters. People willing to push the bully back.\nInterestingly, she was a student of Elizabeth Warren when Warren was a professor. I kind of feel they're cut from the same cloth in the way they approach policy and issues: act as a teacher. Democrats should adopt a teacher model and start educating the public with a whiteboard the same way Porter has done. Most people are just too uninformed on the issues, and when they're genuinely knowledgeable it becomes clear the right path for this country.\nEdit:\nSome are expressing valid concern that adopting a \"teacher\" mode can come off as condescending. I don't think it has to. We all know those great teachers who inspired us or even played devil's advocate to success. But it doesn't even need to be framed like that; it literally just needs to be 30 seconds to 2 minute ads introducing a topic or policy or issue or myth or basic civics thing that people get tripped up on (e.g., myths surrounding taxes). Just be factual and to the point, illustrative, and provide a source. That's all. \nBut more importantly, Katie Porter's viral messages have proven their success as a model already, both among Democrats and Independents alike. Good news is we're realizing as of recent elections that we don't particularly need to appeal to Republicans in order to win anymore. We can hope for the best that some of the teaching carries through, but that's about it."
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