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It’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years."
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What if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that."
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Republican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an "R" next to their name.
Republicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy.
Jan 6th showed us they would rather have a "Dear Leader" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day."
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The “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign."
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Ok. YOU VOTED HIM IN?
Your whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it."
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Is there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck."
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It would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?"
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Funny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.
But then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections
Edit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later.
I am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen."
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I think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right? | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff."
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Why would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?"
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What, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly."
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Maybe learn about the candidates before you vote.
He may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics.
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress."
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Naaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years."
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This is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)
By a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.
The survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.
Some residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend."
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That’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!! | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!"
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I still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, "I know, right?" | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\""
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen"
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Yeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run."
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It could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.
I give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters."
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What's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you? | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch."
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I want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?"
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Stefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary."
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But only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves.
So fed up with the republicans. So fed up. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?"
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The same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons."
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22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election? | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving"
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22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by "George" | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?"
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I wonder whats going on with the other 22% | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\""
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this"
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The other 22% have never heard that name before. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?"
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Resign??? It sounds like he should be in jail.
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go",
">\n\nI bet that of the same candidates ran today, they’d still vote him in because of the R."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go",
">\n\nI bet that of the same candidates ran today, they’d still vote him in because of the R.",
">\n\nHe won’t."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go",
">\n\nI bet that of the same candidates ran today, they’d still vote him in because of the R.",
">\n\nHe won’t.",
">\n\nThe man gets a purple heart in Vietnam, invents wind energy, captains his lacrosse team, single handedly eradicates small pox and takes down several pedophile rings and the left just want to kick him to the curb like garbage?! Unbelievable"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go",
">\n\nI bet that of the same candidates ran today, they’d still vote him in because of the R.",
">\n\nHe won’t.",
">\n\nThe man gets a purple heart in Vietnam, invents wind energy, captains his lacrosse team, single handedly eradicates small pox and takes down several pedophile rings and the left just want to kick him to the curb like garbage?! Unbelievable",
">\n\nLol, so what? That's not how any of this works."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go",
">\n\nI bet that of the same candidates ran today, they’d still vote him in because of the R.",
">\n\nHe won’t.",
">\n\nThe man gets a purple heart in Vietnam, invents wind energy, captains his lacrosse team, single handedly eradicates small pox and takes down several pedophile rings and the left just want to kick him to the curb like garbage?! Unbelievable",
">\n\nLol, so what? That's not how any of this works.",
">\n\nToo bad Republicans never listen to what the majority of America wants."
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go",
">\n\nI bet that of the same candidates ran today, they’d still vote him in because of the R.",
">\n\nHe won’t.",
">\n\nThe man gets a purple heart in Vietnam, invents wind energy, captains his lacrosse team, single handedly eradicates small pox and takes down several pedophile rings and the left just want to kick him to the curb like garbage?! Unbelievable",
">\n\nLol, so what? That's not how any of this works.",
">\n\nToo bad Republicans never listen to what the majority of America wants.",
">\n\nSo is there a procedure to impeach him or trigger a new election?"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go",
">\n\nI bet that of the same candidates ran today, they’d still vote him in because of the R.",
">\n\nHe won’t.",
">\n\nThe man gets a purple heart in Vietnam, invents wind energy, captains his lacrosse team, single handedly eradicates small pox and takes down several pedophile rings and the left just want to kick him to the curb like garbage?! Unbelievable",
">\n\nLol, so what? That's not how any of this works.",
">\n\nToo bad Republicans never listen to what the majority of America wants.",
">\n\nSo is there a procedure to impeach him or trigger a new election?",
">\n\nThe other 22% should not be allowed to vote."
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The republicans should cut their losses and get rid of this idiot. Democrats will keep hitting him like a piñata and every time a new lie will be uncovered. | [
"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go",
">\n\nI bet that of the same candidates ran today, they’d still vote him in because of the R.",
">\n\nHe won’t.",
">\n\nThe man gets a purple heart in Vietnam, invents wind energy, captains his lacrosse team, single handedly eradicates small pox and takes down several pedophile rings and the left just want to kick him to the curb like garbage?! Unbelievable",
">\n\nLol, so what? That's not how any of this works.",
">\n\nToo bad Republicans never listen to what the majority of America wants.",
">\n\nSo is there a procedure to impeach him or trigger a new election?",
">\n\nThe other 22% should not be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nHis greed is going to cost him"
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"What is scary is 23% don't. Same MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nThe entire bottom 1/3 of the electorate is responsible for 90% of the bullshit conspiracy nonsense. They will believe almost anything as long as it is only supported by allegations and speculation- there can't be any actual evidence. If there isn't room for them to make a leap of faith in believing something, they refuse to believe it at all. They need to feel like they are smart enough to make the connections that others don't.\nThe cynical Republican leaders play to that credulity gap, stoking the conspiracy nonsense because those voters who who gravitate to nonsense are the ones who actually go to the polls in primary elections. The whole charade is so transparent and obvious, except to the bottom third, for whom obvious transparency can only mean the Deep State is even more effective in misinforming people. The easier it is to prove, the more it must be fake. We have finally reached Terminal Stupidity.",
">\n\nTurns out having a room temperature iq doesn't stop you from voting.",
">\n\nYou ever think about how idioms like that change depending on the scale you're using? Standard room temperature for stuff is considered what, 68 Fahrenheit? Very dumb, but potentially livable. Then in Celsius, that's like 20, not sure how you'd even measure that low. On the other end, that's like 293 Kelvin, some kind of super genius. Or 527ish Rankine is unfathomable as well. Not at all relevant to the comment, just got me thinking down that line.",
">\n\nWhat was it the dude in Alien 3 called them? The 85s.",
">\n\nThe Weyland-Yutani prison guard guy on Fiorina 161. His nickname was 85. The other inmates had read his personnel file and saw his IQ score.\nPoor guy tried to do the right thing at the end and was iced by his own employer when the mercs got there to retrieve Ripley and the gestating Queen.",
">\n\nOh right! Been a long time since I've seen it. Good memory.",
">\n\nIt’s such a weird thing bc it’s so clear he’s a grifter and not an ideologue. He could use his two years to cause so much chaos and have so much fun but he’ll probably just vote party line :(",
">\n\nVote the party line and collect a pension for the rest of his life.",
">\n\nGotta have 5 years for the pension.",
">\n\nI think it’s like 20+ years or so to have it be fully vested as well.",
">\n\n5 years is fully vested, but you have to be 62 in order to collect. So sometime in 2053 Santos can collect his pension if he manages to serve five years.",
">\n\nAh. Maybe it was just health care that takes longer to best.",
">\n\nMaybe they should have paid attention during the election, too. Then this could have been an election result and not a poll.",
">\n\nDidn't the big stories about him break after the election? I think it's a bit much to expect an individual to figure this stuff out.",
">\n\nI mean, given that Republicans have been nothing but regressive, obstructionist pigs in 85% of state and federal government for the past 24 years, I can not see what would compel a New Yorker to vote for a Republican, ever, let alone GEORGE SANTOS.",
">\n\nGreat logic, Dems aren't doing enough so let's vote for the openly virulent racist party that hates us for being Asian and has never done anything to reduce race-motivated hate. In fact, they consistently stoke it. Ditto for Cubans in Florida.",
">\n\nDon’t hate on the voters in this case, they were duped into it. \nYou have to remember they were having right wing propaganda jammed down their throats, and knew nothing about Santo’s lies at the time.\nThe Dem party holds a large portion of the blame here, as they just paid no attention to the matter during the run up to the election. They turned a blind eye because they were so overly confident that voters in the district would never vote republican, which was just incorrect. Alarm bells had been rung too, the dem party just didn’t want to invest any time or money to fight it.",
">\n\nI don’t know how the election campaigns were around NYC and that specific district, but let’s not pretend Democrats have been ignoring hate crimes against Asian Americans in general\nMaybe not enough was done in the district, or maybe not enough attention, but to say it was ignored by Democrats is pretty blatantly false, especially when plenty of prominent Republicans were egging it on and standing in the way of anything getting done",
">\n\nOh, I had in no way intended to imply that Dems were ignoring crime against Asian Americans, just that they allowed the GOP to campaign on misinformation that made said Asian Americans feel like Dems weren’t doing anything about it. The problem was the Dems just didn’t think they needed to invest further in fighting for that district because they assumed they didn’t need to. It was a strategic mistake.\nStill, that doesn’t change that the GOP lied to these voters about their own candidate and gave misinformation about which party was able to better protect its voters from crime. That lie is on the GOP and Santos, but the fact it wasn’t better challenged in this district is the Dems fault as well.\nI was just saying don’t blame the voters themselves in this case, as they were the ones being lied to.",
">\n\nI get you, I’ve just seen a lot of stuff online the past few years where it’s subtly implied that anything bad happening to X minority is being condoned by Democrats, because secretly Democrats are the “real” racists\nAnd I get falling for lies, but at the same time it’s a tough pill to swallow when for the past half decade near on every single Republican politician was lining up to imply Covid was the fault of Asians and deny any hate crimes were happening as a result of that implication",
">\n\nI don’t think I’m implying that Dems are racists, nor do I have any intention to.\nStill, it’s really not the fault of the voters here. They genuinely want the guy recalled, and he straight up lied to them. That doesn’t really make them gullible, just vulnerable to political manipulation, which is what happened here.\nFan of the Dems or not, you have to admit this is partially because they dropped the ball in this district and didn’t take the time to fight the candidate who was feeding their voters lies.",
">\n\nThis won't be forgotten. Even though he's not running for reelection, this could have downstream effects for how vetting occurs here going forward.\nAnd to make that point even clearer, the front runner for special election or 2024 on the GOP side would be Jack Martins. His record and credentials are well established. But he could lose simply because of the anger.\nBy the time the next census comes around, yes the district could revert to its newly questionable redder demographics from the recent redistricting. If not for Santos, this district could have been a GOP hold for a few years.",
">\n\nYeah I don't think they'll forget. Reps are only elected for two year terms, he'd be running for reelection in 2024 himself if he thought he could somehow pull it off.",
">\n\nHe won't, the Republicans are bought by the Russian mob and he's no exception.",
">\n\nAnd he'd turn on them in half a heartbeat if someone paid him enough.\nHe has no loyalty to anyone other than himself.",
">\n\nThe Russians will murder their family members. They're blackmailing them.",
">\n\nI know of the extensive corruption, oligarch interests, and dark money, but do we have evidence of violent threats and extortion?",
">\n\nYes. Exhibit A-Z what happens to Putin's rivals. Defenestration or polodium tea.",
">\n\n22% of third district residents are human garbage.",
">\n\nI think he should stay until next election when a Democrat can run against him.",
">\n\nThat's not a bad strategy. If he resigns he might get replaced with someone more effective. But if he sticks around, he'll be so busy dealing with this ongoing scandal that he'll be ineffective at politics.",
">\n\nExactly!",
">\n\nWe're delivering a 100k signature petition tomorrow to his office.\nThe local-only petition is ongoing.",
">\n\nWhat makes you think his office would care about that if recalls are not a thing in your state?",
">\n\nIt's not a state issue. There are no recalls in any state for members of Congress; because the Constitution doesn't allow for any.\nAnd in fact, specifies the opposite: that each house of Congress itself is the sole judge of the qualification of its membership. A house of Congress can vote to expel a member, but that's literally the only way to remove one from office against their will (other than death, which is presumably against their will too).",
">\n\nOk same question. Why would his office care about a petition?",
">\n\nI suspect he doesn't care at all about any petition.\nIf it has any impact, it'd be as a demonstration to other Congressional Republicans that the public, including a large share of Republican voters, want the guy gone and that they might be harming themselves by not getting rid of him.",
">\n\nMaybe they could have gone and voted. Or at least look into who they voted for.",
">\n\nMany of those same folks voted for this idiot. Amazing.",
">\n\nI hate low-information voters so much",
">\n\nIf only the people of that district would have had an opportunity to weigh in on his fitness for office prior to this. If only...",
">\n\nMuch of the news coverage of Santos is \"too little too late\". For crying out loud, a similar candidate in Ohio got exposed earlier by national media (JR Majewski, by the AP in September).",
">\n\nMaybe Newsday could have done some investigative journalism and broke some of these stories themselves before the election?",
">\n\nSeriously, Long Island’s Newspaper completely ignored the dirt dug up by North Shore Leader. They changed tack like NYPost only after things went from awful to abominable.",
">\n\n22% said not to resign? Wow",
">\n\nThere's a large, uncaring percentage of the general populace. Trump supporters, for example.",
">\n\nDid all 78% vote in the midterm?",
">\n\nThey do mention the voters in the article. Out of the people who voted for him only 2 out of every 3 said they wouldn’t vote for him again. Embarrassing really.\nThe ones who would still vote for him are probably a bunch of conspiracy theorists with room temperature IQ.",
">\n\nThe reality is likely that almost all of them would vote for him again in a general election. He'll lose a primary.",
">\n\nThey are the dummies that voted him in lol",
">\n\n“bUt ThE VoTeRs hAvE SpOkEn!”\n-probably some asshole Republican",
">\n\nMaybe they can vote for someone else next time but he was elected democratically by the same people so buckle up bukaroo",
">\n\nLike GOP has ever cared what a majority wants…",
">\n\nJust bs to try and justify their unpopular beliefs and ideas…",
">\n\nIf he had any decency he would resign. \nSo I'm betting he's not going to.",
">\n\nGo home Becky, no one wants you here.",
">\n\nWhat in the hot blue fuck is wrong with the other 22%",
">\n\nThat number should be 100% lol wtf",
">\n\nRemember how when ever a Dem is heavily favored in a race and reporters go to some small town diner and interviews the \"salt of the earth\" people about their views on like Hillary's jobs programs? How come these same reporters aren't crawling Santos's district and asking their opinions? Took months and the oublic gets this poll.",
">\n\nConstituents sound off about Rep.-elect Santos, who is under investigation\nEmbattled Santos silent as his constituents sound off\nFrustration Stirs on Long Island on Day of George Santos’ Inauguration\nConstituents make it clear at rally they don't want Congressman-elect George Santos seated\nSantos voters speak to CNN after his false claims were revealed\nThis is all just from before he was even sworn in, and easily available on Google, btw",
">\n\nIf only they had conducted this type of polling around November of last year.",
">\n\nHopefully the people that voted for him will realize they're not actually voter material and refrain from voting in the future.",
">\n\nDisturbingly low",
">\n\nResign? At the very least he should be removed, made to pay any expenses he's incurred, and do jail time for fraud.",
">\n\nRemoving him would be overturning the results of an election. I’m not an insurrectionist so I’m totally against this",
">\n\nI want to hear about the people who don’t want him to resign. \nThat 78% is a number from those polled. \nNot those that voted.",
">\n\n22% of Republicans don’t care as long as he votes the party line. Wild given that this isn’t Alabama.",
">\n\nWell well well, if it isn't the consequences of their own actions!",
">\n\nI can’t believe they voted for him in the first place.\nAlso, what was his opponent doing during the election? Seems like half of the dirt on Santos was just waiting in the open to be used.",
">\n\nSame MAGA number every time.",
">\n\nRepublican voters: I really hate this guy. Better vote for him again.",
">\n\nThese people would vote in a Martian from Mars Attacks, if they had an R next to their unpronounceable name.",
">\n\nLike Democrat's with in Pennsylvania by voting in someone with literal brain damage?",
">\n\nGOP already lost those voters by keeping up this farce! They are about to lose another seat.",
">\n\nNew York needs recall laws.",
">\n\n22% are idiots.",
">\n\nAt this point do we even know if his name is George Santos?",
">\n\nWell, I don’t want him to resign…\nI want for him to be in office in 2024, so that every Democrat running can point to him and say, “this is what Republicans stand for. This is the face of the Republican Party. Deception and lies.’\nMost people don’t really like that.\nTrump should have been enough, but apparently not.",
">\n\nWhy do they have to wait on him to do the right thing? Start a recall election effort.",
">\n\nIn other news: 22% of residents are republicans who vote consistently.",
">\n\nHow did this guy get elected anyway?\nWhere they just all sleeping?",
">\n\nWho are these other 22% that enjoy being lied to so much?",
">\n\nMAGA. They love being lied to.",
">\n\nShould have held your nose and voted Democrat then, you dumb shits. The amount of complete fuckery it would take for me to vote for a fucking Republican in New York is significantly higher than whatever issues New York state's Democratic Party has been dealing with over the past few years.",
">\n\nIt’s amazing. He lied about almost everything, yet 12% of voters have no issue with that.",
">\n\nWhat if I told you republicans don't care about their constituents.",
">\n\nRepublican voters have shown the nation they can't be tasked with the simple duty as a citizen of researching and vetting the candidates they vote for. They just vote for whoever has an \"R\" next to their name.\nRepublicans have no interest in participating as informed citizens in a functioning Democracy. \nJan 6th showed us they would rather have a \"Dear Leader\" to rule over them and tell them what's real or not, and who to hate that day.",
">\n\nI'm a strong Republican and his actions are despicable... Of course he should resign.",
">\n\nThe “we don’t want to subsidize bad life choices” people suddenly have opinions. You wanted a Republican. Wish granted. Now live with it.",
">\n\nOk. YOU VOTED HIM IN?\nYour whole district should be hounding every lawyer you know to find some way to sort this out. You're responsible.",
">\n\nIs there some sort of recall process to kick George Santos out of office? Or maybe there needs to be more protests and demonstrations to force him to resign. It is ridiculous that voters cannot get rid of a lousy politician besides waiting for the next election.",
">\n\nThe Constitution states that all public servant can be impeached if convicted of a crime but someone has to start the process.",
">\n\nWhat's the name for the remaining 12%? I'm sure I've seen an actual definition for it as it's actually proven a certain % of people would vote the same way throughout their lives even if the candidate shot their dog in the face beforehand.\nEdit: do dogs actually have faces?!",
">\n\nIs there no recall mechanism in NY?",
">\n\nNo state can recall members of congress.",
">\n\nIs there a “No confidence” or recall vote they can do? 78-22 sounds like an overwhelming landslide",
">\n\nCongress can expel him. An indictment usually encourages that process but it's not automatic.",
">\n\nIsn't there a process for recalling your representative? How could there not be?",
">\n\nThere’s not in the USA.",
">\n\nThat's dumb as fuck.",
">\n\nAren't the residents allowed to take him out of power?",
">\n\nNope.\nIt would take 2/3 of the House to vote him out.\nMcCarthy needs his vote so that won't happen.",
">\n\nFunny how that is the case since point of democracy was to give people ability to peacefully oust their leaders if need ever rose.\nBut then again it is also better to have some stability in the job and not fear you lose your job that ofthen. Also there would be a lot of elections \nEdit: i just remebered the house representatives sit only two years so he will be foghting for re election sooner rather than later. \nI am conflicted since I have been vocal about rising the time for represemtatives to 4 years so they have more time to do stuff.",
">\n\nI think the republicans who voted for this guy will learn something this time around right? Right?",
">\n\nWhy would he? He gets Congressional pay and benefits and clearly isn't winning again. He's got nothing to gain by resigning.",
">\n\nWhat, is there some waiting period before they can begin a recall referendum? They should get on that asap because he's not gonna resign willingly.",
">\n\nThere is no recall for Congress.",
">\n\nMaybe learn about the candidates before you vote. \nHe may be a liar, but he was voted in through a legitimate process. Being an informed voter would prevent things like this instead of voting on personalities or identity politics. \nThe only recourse is to wait until November 2024.",
">\n\nCan't they start a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for any member of Congress.",
">\n\nI did not know that. How unfortunate. 😕",
">\n\nNaaah, they elected him. He represents their values and sense of morality and integrity. Let us see how you chose to represent yourselves over the next couple years.",
">\n\nIs that a lot? :)",
">\n\nThis is the best tl;dr I could make, original reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)\n\n\nBy a 6-1 ratio, voters in Rep. George Santos' congressional district want him to resign since his lies about his education, family history and work profile have been revealed, according to a new Newsday/Siena College poll.\nThe survey indicates residents aren't blaming Republicans, just Santos: 55% said Santos doesn't reflect the values of the GOP, 32% said he does.\nSome residents who voted for Santos told Newsday they did so merely because they backed Zeldin, backed the entire GOP ticket or wanted Republicans to control Congress.\n\n\nExtended Summary | FAQ | Feedback | Top keywords: Santos^#1 vote^#2 Republican^#3 resign^#4 party^#5",
">\n\nDoes that equal 142,000 people? Asking for a friend.",
">\n\n…and the other 22% still think he is a volley ball star.",
">\n\nThat’s all? Who are the 22% who think, meh, no problem…what is going on here!!",
">\n\nWho are those 22% rats?",
">\n\nI still don't get how he was elected in the first place. I bring this up a lot on these threads and the only responses I get are, \"I know, right?\"",
">\n\nBacklash against NYC and Hochul.",
">\n\nHe should be in jail, let alone be representing constituents.",
">\n\nHey there, Kitara, that's more than 142,000.",
">\n\nIt shouldn’t be “should”. He doesn’t get a fucking choice is what it “should” say. Our government is pathetic af",
">\n\nThere’s always the die hard “my team no matter how insane” 20%",
">\n\nPlease get him out before the debt ceiling crashes.",
">\n\nBy now we should all know what should happen has no effect at all on what does happen",
">\n\nCharlie Sheen is jealous of this guys run.",
">\n\nYeah, that's about the same percentage of Americans that want common sense gun control, voting protection laws, and abortion rights. The GOP doesn't care what the majority wants so if the majority wants their opinions respected they should probably stop voting for Republicans.",
">\n\nIt could as very well be 100% this guy is going nowhere. He’s got some heavy backers since he’s doing pretty good riding the storm.\nI give it 2 weeks before media throws in the towel. McCartney certainly wants him and that’s all that matters.",
">\n\nBut he dresses you nice! He should be successful.",
">\n\nWhat's sad is that a huge chunk of those people voted for him in the first place. What the hell is wrong with you?",
">\n\nIs there no way to simply recall him?",
">\n\nThat 22%? Thems you watch.",
">\n\nwhy the fuck are we begging for resignation, he should be in jail",
">\n\nI want him to stay. Let them get a good taste of what voting your weird prejudices cost them in representation and piss-poor constituent services.",
">\n\nfair enough",
">\n\nWrong headline\n“22% are ok with a lying thief being their rep in congress”",
">\n\nIm confused, not to up to date and too lazy. Is this because he does drag? Or something else?",
">\n\nDuring his election campaign, he made many claims about his background and personal life that all turned out to be fake. His education, his work history, even his religion were all revealed to be false. He even made claims that one of his parents died because of 9/11",
">\n\nCorrect",
">\n\nPlot twist suckers: he’s not George Santos",
">\n\nDoes he still get his 200k/year if he resigns?",
">\n\nHe will not go himself, he needs to be forced out.",
">\n\nStefanik and McCarthy say the people should decide if Santos should resign. When are they going to be given the vote to fire him. I would be pissed if my taxes was paying this liars salary.",
">\n\nIn 2 years when his term is up",
">\n\nBut only after he rides out his term and is not re-elected.... Because color me surprised if he actually leaves. \nSo fed up with the republicans. So fed up.",
">\n\n78% of 3rd district residents should be ashamed of themselves. This is a two lane highway issue and the apathy, ignorance and sheer gullibility shown by those people make them a hazard to democracy.",
">\n\nAre they not aware they can repeal him?",
">\n\nWhy can't a prosecutor in that district charge him fraud? If 78% of the population wants it, that is straight political gold for them.",
">\n\nThe same people who were duped by this moron? Too bad, you got what you wanted.",
">\n\nIt seems as though these days people are getting rich and famous for all the wrong reasons.",
">\n\nThen they better start showing up at his door, because he’s not interested in leaving",
">\n\n22% of the district must not read the news. Sometimes you just need to unplug. This entire fiasco is why I hate reading the news sometimes. How in the fuck did journalists not know any of this stuff before the election?",
">\n\n22% of NY-03 must be scam artists and feel really represented by \"George\"",
">\n\nI wonder whats going on with the other 22%",
">\n\nThey have brain damage and/or only watch Fox News; you know the Republican base.",
">\n\nThem why don't they launch a recall?",
">\n\nThere are no recalls for Congress.",
">\n\nThanks. I didn't know that.",
">\n\nI cannot wait a comedy movie about this",
">\n\nWho?",
">\n\nThe other 22% have never heard that name before.",
">\n\nResign??? It sounds like he should be in jail. \nRepublicans, amiright?!",
">\n\nGee, if these people had paid even the slightest bit of attention, and done their civic duty he wouldn't had been elected in the first place.",
">\n\nI forsee him absent from district offices indefinitely.",
">\n\nBut McCarthy will keep supporting him. He doesn’t give a shit about the voters. It’s all a numbers game",
">\n\nHe Won’t",
">\n\nWell if a majority of voters feel that way I think we all know it ain’t gonna happen.",
">\n\nIs there an option to recall him?",
">\n\nUnfortunately no",
">\n\nOnly 78%?",
">\n\nRecall him",
">\n\nHow much of the remaining 22% said George Santos should be removed and arrested?",
">\n\n31,240 to go",
">\n\nI bet that of the same candidates ran today, they’d still vote him in because of the R.",
">\n\nHe won’t.",
">\n\nThe man gets a purple heart in Vietnam, invents wind energy, captains his lacrosse team, single handedly eradicates small pox and takes down several pedophile rings and the left just want to kick him to the curb like garbage?! Unbelievable",
">\n\nLol, so what? That's not how any of this works.",
">\n\nToo bad Republicans never listen to what the majority of America wants.",
">\n\nSo is there a procedure to impeach him or trigger a new election?",
">\n\nThe other 22% should not be allowed to vote.",
">\n\nHis greed is going to cost him",
">\n\nThe republicans should cut their losses and get rid of this idiot. Democrats will keep hitting him like a piñata and every time a new lie will be uncovered."
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