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Trump fights dirty and probably has the goods on all these chodes DeSantis included, I wouldn’t count him out yet | [
"Yes. Eat each other.",
">\n\nI’ll just be over here with some popcorn.",
">\n\nMight as well bring a steak. \nThere's gonna be a fire",
">\n\nWho wants hamberders?",
">\n\nMe.",
">\n\n^ This guy hamberders. Come on get in here... dig in.",
">\n\nTrump won Florida both times tho. Starting to think any deep-fried turd can win in Florida",
">\n\nAnd Rick Scott.\nWith DeSantis, Gaetz and Scott being mention, you may now rest your case.",
">\n\nSeeing that they don’t believe climate change over there can’t you guys just… i don’t know let Florida sink?",
">\n\nThe dingly dangly state is clearly infected. We need to amputate it at the Georgia.",
">\n\nYou'll watch DeSantis's approval rating and 2024 support go up. \nRepublican voters love this kind of stuff. They want a strongman.",
">\n\nEh until he actually has to go on TV. DeSantis has negative charisma. I hate il Douche with almost every fiber of my being but at least I can recognize he has a certain kind of media appeal. Ronnie has literally built a career on triggering the libs and sucking up to Trump. He's a political paper tiger.",
">\n\nDeSantis has very limited social skills. He's said to \"not be a people person\", is uncomfortable informally chatting in groups, and has been observed just walking away, mid-conversation with peers.\nThis is anecdotal, but if he runs, all aspects of his persona will be exposed.\nGenuinely connecting with ordinary folks on an emotional level is only one of Biden's many strengths, and is necessary to win elections.\nDeSantis will absolutely not be able to compete / prevail on a national scale.\nStick to Florida, Little Hitler: that's your only lane.",
">\n\nHe seemed very weird in the few debates I saw. Trump would eat him up on a debate stage.",
">\n\n“Got reelected.” At what cost- to make Floridan's lives, especially students/educators, more miserable?",
">\n\nI'm sure DeSantis doesn't care. It's all a popularity contest to these guys",
">\n\nAlways has been, sort of. In blue states it's a popularity contest. In red states their thumb is heavily on the scale in non statewide races. Governor is a statewide race and DeSantis won by a fair bit over his opponent Crist so his popularity is real.",
">\n\nThe Florida Democrats ran a Luke warm candidate hoping they'd be able to grab the moderate republican vote against DeSantis, on top of that their campaign game is weak in the state.",
">\n\nRed-on-red on crime is my favorite kind of crime!",
">\n\nMine is theft, but I am partial to arson",
">\n\n\"My angry inch is more angry than you're angry inch!\"",
">\n\nI'd love for santis to run as repub and dump to run third party split that vote baby",
">\n\nAt some point after the 2020 election, I created a chart of \"What if 2024 was a repeat of 2020, but Trump was a third party candidate pulling 30% of the Republican vote.\" Almost the entire country was a field of blue. Some of the deepest red states would still go red, but just barely.",
">\n\nIf that happens that would be the funniest fucking thing that screws over the republican party forever and i so desperately want it to happen.",
">\n\nIf he loses the primary he's going to dedicate his time to bringing them down so he can say only he could have won but the party cheated him out. He said Ted Cruz cheated against him at the Iowa caucus\nThe only chance Ron would have is if Trump was promised a pardon but at this point does trump think he'll ever face charges and is he capable of backing a guy like Desantis who defeated him for months? Probably not",
">\n\nPeople like Trump don’t trust in promises.",
">\n\nWell I don’t trust in promises from people like Trump, so I guess things kind of even out.",
">\n\nThat’s the reason. Liars think everyone else is lying.",
">\n\nThat’s how they justify the lies. If everyone else is lying, they’re only playing by the same rules.\nTo be clear, everyone is NOT lying",
">\n\nLock both of these criminals up!",
">\n\nSo, to put this in the context for what DeSantis is suggesting, I believe in a head-to-head for the Florida governorship, Trump would beat DeSantis hands down.",
">\n\nI dunno, in 2020 Trump got 51.2% of the vote, in 2022 DeSantis got 59.4% (though fewer votes in total than Trump in 2020).",
">\n\nComing from an independent here in Florida no way Trump would beat DeSantis in Florida.Trump support is just down to the Flag waving Trump is my whole personality crowd.",
">\n\nAnd that crowd keeps shrinking as Tantruming Trump keeps lashing out at other people his supporters like. They liked his lashing out when it attacked their opposition, they don't like it when it's attacking their friends.",
">\n\nEveryone send letters to Maralago encouraging Trump to start a 3rd party.",
">\n\n\"Dear Mr. President who is very smart and handsome and has really big hands...\"",
">\n\nOr, more accurately:\nMy voter base is dumber than yours!",
">\n\nHeh, wannabe authoritarian spars with the Traitor. \nDumb and dumber 3, Rinse, Recycle, Repeat...\nRRR from the GOP",
">\n\nThat's the closest thing to an admission that there was no voter fraud that we're ever likely to get",
">\n\nFlorida voters are the most masochistic people you’ll ever meet.",
">\n\nMatch made in heaven since they only elect sadists.",
">\n\nFight, you fucking swine, fight.",
">\n\nThey both stand like centaurs missing their back half’s. Why do they stand so weird?????",
">\n\nBoth of these guys pretty much are the back half of a centaur.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until the entire nation sees how absolutely irritating he is.",
">\n\nTo be fair Trump won Florida with the same group of misinformed Fox News mainliners.",
">\n\nTrump should run for Florida governor",
">\n\nYeah, that would be really fun to watch. DeSantis would shit his pants. And both of them would descend to a level of dumbassery \"the likes of which has never been seen in the history of the world.\"",
">\n\nDeSantis is term-limited (as of today’s laws) so he could care less.",
">\n\nyea but didn't he draw up his own maps",
">\n\nDidn’t he have to use illegally gerrymandered maps to win?",
">\n\nIn Florida. I mean, Trump won Florida twice too. That's not a huge snap back. But I'm not going to defend Trump. Let them fight.",
">\n\nThe height of Republican discourse, here. \nSomeone smells blood in the water.",
">\n\nPopcorn! Get your popcorn here!\nBuy the jumbo sized bucket and get a free soda!",
">\n\nRight. It's easier to suppress voters in one state vice an entire country.",
">\n\nRonnie better be careful, much of trumps base has a collective delusion that trump won his election too.",
">\n\nLet them fight.",
">\n\nNot as sick of a burn as he thinks. In Trump's mind, he was reelected too.",
">\n\nThe one thing I look forward to is Donald going for vengeance against this dimwit.",
">\n\nThey’re both terrible, and it’s embarrassing they’re even in the running for anything.",
">\n\nDeSantis just asserted the election was valid.",
">\n\nSo Media, are we going to have endure every single hissy fit from these two clowns throw at each other for the duration?",
">\n\nYes, yes we will. Submit to the machine my friend.",
">\n\nAs much as I despise both of them, that's a pretty good backhand slap",
">\n\nSnaps back? These media outlets are making total fools out of themselves with this undignified slang in their headlines.",
">\n\nThis and “claps back” makes me see red.",
">\n\nBy denying millions of votes.",
">\n\nHow long do you think it will be before they start shipping immigrants at each other?",
">\n\nLol good one",
">\n\nDeSantis is much smarter than Trump. He’s a scary politician.",
">\n\nlol BURN.",
">\n\nIt's a smackdown.\nTrump's going to send his henchman Marjorie Taylor Green to climb into the ring when no one's looking and hit him with a chair.",
">\n\nWhen he gets elected by the maga, that's when we see how stupid Americans are.",
">\n\nOr how corrupt the state election boards are across America",
">\n\nThat's honestly not a bad argument, everything considered.",
">\n\nDeSantis' (\"Desanctimonious\") only worth is that he pisses off Trump.",
">\n\nCant wait to watch these two grown men children fight each other",
">\n\nOoh, scat fight! Scat fight!",
">\n\nAt about the point where I couldn’t distinguish between republicans political rhetoric and a couple of 3rd graders on the schoolyard, I tuned out of politics. Fuck these morons.",
">\n\nI mean, through cheating and having a Nazi election police force to arrest black voters who did nothing wrong. And through gerrymandering the other seats, and using illegal maps. So not really.",
">\n\nI was expecting a “slam” but I’ll settle for a “snap”.",
">\n\nHahaha I love all this infighting",
">\n\nSnaps back?!? More like a very weak Neener Neener. And Trump saying “he’s disloyal”? Come on, guys, get in there!",
">\n\n...and he can walk in high heels...",
">\n\nAs much as I don't like DeSantis, I'm here for all the reminders that Trump's a loser",
">\n\nIt's on.",
">\n\nHe was only re-elected because he had Trumps support. Desanctimonious will be in fur a big surprise come the primaries.",
">\n\nThe Republican primaries are going to turn into a dogpile on Trump, can't wait.",
">\n\nTrump just got made to look like a fucking LOSER. A real man would fight back no matter what.",
">\n\nIt’s on like Donkey Kong",
">\n\nThis guy always looks constipated to me",
">\n\n...and with that, the bloodfest begins...",
">\n\nLol. Ok Ronny. Just remember never wrestle with a pig…..",
">\n\nNice. Fight fight fight fight",
">\n\nYeah and both yall look like shit in your suits.",
">\n\nIf Trump is trying to evade jail time he should run as DeSantis' VP. Automatic win for the Republicans. They would control the all branches of government.",
">\n\nTrump and DeSantis are both pieces of shit. Fuck them. but with that said: seeing trump get dunked on is always great lol",
">\n\nIt’s happening! It’s happening! This is exciting, it’s always nice to see horrible people be pitted against each other.",
">\n\nThey're both fucking chodes.",
">\n\nOh man I can't wait to see all the in-fighting between rednecks here in Florida. Wonder how I can help stir the pot...",
">\n\nFight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!",
">\n\noooo, ronny getting testy. ok, maybe we got a ballgame!",
">\n\nOh hot diggity, shots fired!",
">\n\nKeep fighting, ya scums!",
">\n\nBattle of the Bastards",
">\n\nDesantis lacks a soul.",
">\n\nCrazy or not, he’s not wrong. As much heat as him and Abbot get they got re-elected in a landslide. Equal criticism should fall in the shoulders that put him them in power repeatedly.",
">\n\nGuys guys, you’re both just terrible.",
">\n\nYesss feed the hatred",
">\n\nTechically it would be politically poor optics for Desantis to get bitchy with trump, as he needs to maintain that base, else he risks dividing the base. That being said, I hope trump pesters the living shit out of him. Make this piggy squeal and insult trumpism. Self richeous conservative pride like that has a lot of anger in it.\n\"Let them fight\"",
">\n\nSo he believes Biden won in a free and fair election?",
">\n\nWait, what happened to election denial? I thought the line was that the election was stolen?",
">\n\nWatching them sling shit at one another is SO entertaining!",
">\n\nThat Trump alleges he could stop the Dems from stealing DeSuckass's election but not from stealing his own is some cuck shit.",
">\n\nAfter preventing Democrats from voting and having how many Republicans vote twice- yes- he “got re-elected”.",
">\n\nLet the chest thumping and dick swinging begin (or continue?).",
">\n\nThis is going to be fun …",
">\n\nOnly because the democrats campaign was practically nonexistent, im sure he would’ve lost if they actually cared enough to run a competent candidate",
">\n\nLet the Republicans fight themselves.",
">\n\n“I got re-elected, hahaha.”\n…but also, “The Big Lie” yadda yadda yadda fuck non-whites lol”",
">\n\nDude needs to shrink his midsection. He looks like he’s shoplifting chuck roasts",
">\n\nHe should have said:. I got reelected, loser.",
">\n\nI guess his election is the only one that’s legitimate. Maybe we should check that out, just to make sure he got elected fair and square. After all, he is a Republican fascist.",
">\n\nin florida - big deal - adolph hitler or benito mussolini could get elected in florida.",
">\n\nDeSantis won in a landslide so he has a point. Florida likes him a lot more than Trump.",
">\n\nI love it. Trump is going to demolish desantis, steal the nom and lose the general...",
">\n\nHa! Ronald is starting to crack under the pressure of Donald’s badmouthing.",
">\n\n\n...former GOP Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who Trump mocked and chased out of the 2016 race for president.\n\nPolitico throwing shade, damn! 😆\n(Please clap.)",
">\n\nI think he just called Trump a looser.",
">\n\nWell, he is kinda flabby.",
">\n\nThe only reason he is saying anything bad to Donnie is his team of political data scientists know he can get away with based on their numerous focus groups and polls. Desantis isn’t dumb.",
">\n\nFight fight fight",
">\n\nFight fight fight fight!",
">\n\nHow can Trump even knock him on how he handled covid? Isn’t that admitting to his base that the threat was real? \nThe mental gymnastics, how do they keep up?",
">\n\nTo be fair, Trump did have a religious conversion about Covid after he contracted it and would have died except for the miracles of modern science.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what I thought DeSantis would do if/when Trump went after him.\n\"It's pretty simple, folks. I'm a winner. He's a massive loser. You want to win, right? Then don't support the loser.\"\nThis will infuriate Trump and make him look even worse and more desperate than he already does.",
">\n\nI attended this session in person. He handled the question deftly and the crowd applauded his answer. \nFlorida loves DeSantis and there are signs more people are looking at DeSantis more favorably than Trump. This is because DeSantis represents a new generation of politics with more energy on current issues and a record of accomplishing goals at the state level. \nIf you see Trump’s latest press conferences he is clearly following in Ron’s steps on the culture conflicts.",
">\n\nTrump fights dirty and probably has the goods on all these chodes DeSantis included, I wouldn’t count him out yet",
">\n\nI don’t disagree there at all. DeSantis has been quietly preparing for a grudge match for sure.",
">\n\nYes. Eat each other.",
">\n\nI’ll just be over here with some popcorn.",
">\n\nMight as well bring a steak. \nThere's gonna be a fire",
">\n\nWho wants hamberders?",
">\n\nMe.",
">\n\n^ This guy hamberders. Come on get in here... dig in.",
">\n\nTrump won Florida both times tho. Starting to think any deep-fried turd can win in Florida",
">\n\nAnd Rick Scott.\nWith DeSantis, Gaetz and Scott being mention, you may now rest your case.",
">\n\nSeeing that they don’t believe climate change over there can’t you guys just… i don’t know let Florida sink?",
">\n\nThe dingly dangly state is clearly infected. We need to amputate it at the Georgia.",
">\n\nYou'll watch DeSantis's approval rating and 2024 support go up. \nRepublican voters love this kind of stuff. They want a strongman.",
">\n\nEh until he actually has to go on TV. DeSantis has negative charisma. I hate il Douche with almost every fiber of my being but at least I can recognize he has a certain kind of media appeal. Ronnie has literally built a career on triggering the libs and sucking up to Trump. He's a political paper tiger.",
">\n\nDeSantis has very limited social skills. He's said to \"not be a people person\", is uncomfortable informally chatting in groups, and has been observed just walking away, mid-conversation with peers.\nThis is anecdotal, but if he runs, all aspects of his persona will be exposed.\nGenuinely connecting with ordinary folks on an emotional level is only one of Biden's many strengths, and is necessary to win elections.\nDeSantis will absolutely not be able to compete / prevail on a national scale.\nStick to Florida, Little Hitler: that's your only lane.",
">\n\nHe seemed very weird in the few debates I saw. Trump would eat him up on a debate stage.",
">\n\n“Got reelected.” At what cost- to make Floridan's lives, especially students/educators, more miserable?",
">\n\nI'm sure DeSantis doesn't care. It's all a popularity contest to these guys",
">\n\nAlways has been, sort of. In blue states it's a popularity contest. In red states their thumb is heavily on the scale in non statewide races. Governor is a statewide race and DeSantis won by a fair bit over his opponent Crist so his popularity is real.",
">\n\nThe Florida Democrats ran a Luke warm candidate hoping they'd be able to grab the moderate republican vote against DeSantis, on top of that their campaign game is weak in the state.",
">\n\nRed-on-red on crime is my favorite kind of crime!",
">\n\nMine is theft, but I am partial to arson",
">\n\n\"My angry inch is more angry than you're angry inch!\"",
">\n\nI'd love for santis to run as repub and dump to run third party split that vote baby",
">\n\nAt some point after the 2020 election, I created a chart of \"What if 2024 was a repeat of 2020, but Trump was a third party candidate pulling 30% of the Republican vote.\" Almost the entire country was a field of blue. Some of the deepest red states would still go red, but just barely.",
">\n\nIf that happens that would be the funniest fucking thing that screws over the republican party forever and i so desperately want it to happen.",
">\n\nIf he loses the primary he's going to dedicate his time to bringing them down so he can say only he could have won but the party cheated him out. He said Ted Cruz cheated against him at the Iowa caucus\nThe only chance Ron would have is if Trump was promised a pardon but at this point does trump think he'll ever face charges and is he capable of backing a guy like Desantis who defeated him for months? Probably not",
">\n\nPeople like Trump don’t trust in promises.",
">\n\nWell I don’t trust in promises from people like Trump, so I guess things kind of even out.",
">\n\nThat’s the reason. Liars think everyone else is lying.",
">\n\nThat’s how they justify the lies. If everyone else is lying, they’re only playing by the same rules.\nTo be clear, everyone is NOT lying",
">\n\nLock both of these criminals up!",
">\n\nSo, to put this in the context for what DeSantis is suggesting, I believe in a head-to-head for the Florida governorship, Trump would beat DeSantis hands down.",
">\n\nI dunno, in 2020 Trump got 51.2% of the vote, in 2022 DeSantis got 59.4% (though fewer votes in total than Trump in 2020).",
">\n\nComing from an independent here in Florida no way Trump would beat DeSantis in Florida.Trump support is just down to the Flag waving Trump is my whole personality crowd.",
">\n\nAnd that crowd keeps shrinking as Tantruming Trump keeps lashing out at other people his supporters like. They liked his lashing out when it attacked their opposition, they don't like it when it's attacking their friends.",
">\n\nEveryone send letters to Maralago encouraging Trump to start a 3rd party.",
">\n\n\"Dear Mr. President who is very smart and handsome and has really big hands...\"",
">\n\nOr, more accurately:\nMy voter base is dumber than yours!",
">\n\nHeh, wannabe authoritarian spars with the Traitor. \nDumb and dumber 3, Rinse, Recycle, Repeat...\nRRR from the GOP",
">\n\nThat's the closest thing to an admission that there was no voter fraud that we're ever likely to get",
">\n\nFlorida voters are the most masochistic people you’ll ever meet.",
">\n\nMatch made in heaven since they only elect sadists.",
">\n\nFight, you fucking swine, fight.",
">\n\nThey both stand like centaurs missing their back half’s. Why do they stand so weird?????",
">\n\nBoth of these guys pretty much are the back half of a centaur.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until the entire nation sees how absolutely irritating he is.",
">\n\nTo be fair Trump won Florida with the same group of misinformed Fox News mainliners.",
">\n\nTrump should run for Florida governor",
">\n\nYeah, that would be really fun to watch. DeSantis would shit his pants. And both of them would descend to a level of dumbassery \"the likes of which has never been seen in the history of the world.\"",
">\n\nDeSantis is term-limited (as of today’s laws) so he could care less.",
">\n\nyea but didn't he draw up his own maps",
">\n\nDidn’t he have to use illegally gerrymandered maps to win?",
">\n\nIn Florida. I mean, Trump won Florida twice too. That's not a huge snap back. But I'm not going to defend Trump. Let them fight.",
">\n\nThe height of Republican discourse, here. \nSomeone smells blood in the water.",
">\n\nPopcorn! Get your popcorn here!\nBuy the jumbo sized bucket and get a free soda!",
">\n\nRight. It's easier to suppress voters in one state vice an entire country.",
">\n\nRonnie better be careful, much of trumps base has a collective delusion that trump won his election too.",
">\n\nLet them fight.",
">\n\nNot as sick of a burn as he thinks. In Trump's mind, he was reelected too.",
">\n\nThe one thing I look forward to is Donald going for vengeance against this dimwit.",
">\n\nThey’re both terrible, and it’s embarrassing they’re even in the running for anything.",
">\n\nDeSantis just asserted the election was valid.",
">\n\nSo Media, are we going to have endure every single hissy fit from these two clowns throw at each other for the duration?",
">\n\nYes, yes we will. Submit to the machine my friend.",
">\n\nAs much as I despise both of them, that's a pretty good backhand slap",
">\n\nSnaps back? These media outlets are making total fools out of themselves with this undignified slang in their headlines.",
">\n\nThis and “claps back” makes me see red.",
">\n\nBy denying millions of votes.",
">\n\nHow long do you think it will be before they start shipping immigrants at each other?",
">\n\nLol good one",
">\n\nDeSantis is much smarter than Trump. He’s a scary politician.",
">\n\nlol BURN.",
">\n\nIt's a smackdown.\nTrump's going to send his henchman Marjorie Taylor Green to climb into the ring when no one's looking and hit him with a chair.",
">\n\nWhen he gets elected by the maga, that's when we see how stupid Americans are.",
">\n\nOr how corrupt the state election boards are across America",
">\n\nThat's honestly not a bad argument, everything considered.",
">\n\nDeSantis' (\"Desanctimonious\") only worth is that he pisses off Trump.",
">\n\nCant wait to watch these two grown men children fight each other",
">\n\nOoh, scat fight! Scat fight!",
">\n\nAt about the point where I couldn’t distinguish between republicans political rhetoric and a couple of 3rd graders on the schoolyard, I tuned out of politics. Fuck these morons.",
">\n\nI mean, through cheating and having a Nazi election police force to arrest black voters who did nothing wrong. And through gerrymandering the other seats, and using illegal maps. So not really.",
">\n\nI was expecting a “slam” but I’ll settle for a “snap”.",
">\n\nHahaha I love all this infighting",
">\n\nSnaps back?!? More like a very weak Neener Neener. And Trump saying “he’s disloyal”? Come on, guys, get in there!",
">\n\n...and he can walk in high heels...",
">\n\nAs much as I don't like DeSantis, I'm here for all the reminders that Trump's a loser",
">\n\nIt's on.",
">\n\nHe was only re-elected because he had Trumps support. Desanctimonious will be in fur a big surprise come the primaries.",
">\n\nThe Republican primaries are going to turn into a dogpile on Trump, can't wait.",
">\n\nTrump just got made to look like a fucking LOSER. A real man would fight back no matter what.",
">\n\nIt’s on like Donkey Kong",
">\n\nThis guy always looks constipated to me",
">\n\n...and with that, the bloodfest begins...",
">\n\nLol. Ok Ronny. Just remember never wrestle with a pig…..",
">\n\nNice. Fight fight fight fight",
">\n\nYeah and both yall look like shit in your suits.",
">\n\nIf Trump is trying to evade jail time he should run as DeSantis' VP. Automatic win for the Republicans. They would control the all branches of government.",
">\n\nTrump and DeSantis are both pieces of shit. Fuck them. but with that said: seeing trump get dunked on is always great lol",
">\n\nIt’s happening! It’s happening! This is exciting, it’s always nice to see horrible people be pitted against each other.",
">\n\nThey're both fucking chodes.",
">\n\nOh man I can't wait to see all the in-fighting between rednecks here in Florida. Wonder how I can help stir the pot...",
">\n\nFight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!",
">\n\noooo, ronny getting testy. ok, maybe we got a ballgame!",
">\n\nOh hot diggity, shots fired!",
">\n\nKeep fighting, ya scums!",
">\n\nBattle of the Bastards",
">\n\nDesantis lacks a soul.",
">\n\nCrazy or not, he’s not wrong. As much heat as him and Abbot get they got re-elected in a landslide. Equal criticism should fall in the shoulders that put him them in power repeatedly.",
">\n\nGuys guys, you’re both just terrible.",
">\n\nYesss feed the hatred",
">\n\nTechically it would be politically poor optics for Desantis to get bitchy with trump, as he needs to maintain that base, else he risks dividing the base. That being said, I hope trump pesters the living shit out of him. Make this piggy squeal and insult trumpism. Self richeous conservative pride like that has a lot of anger in it.\n\"Let them fight\"",
">\n\nSo he believes Biden won in a free and fair election?",
">\n\nWait, what happened to election denial? I thought the line was that the election was stolen?",
">\n\nWatching them sling shit at one another is SO entertaining!",
">\n\nThat Trump alleges he could stop the Dems from stealing DeSuckass's election but not from stealing his own is some cuck shit.",
">\n\nAfter preventing Democrats from voting and having how many Republicans vote twice- yes- he “got re-elected”.",
">\n\nLet the chest thumping and dick swinging begin (or continue?).",
">\n\nThis is going to be fun …",
">\n\nOnly because the democrats campaign was practically nonexistent, im sure he would’ve lost if they actually cared enough to run a competent candidate",
">\n\nLet the Republicans fight themselves.",
">\n\n“I got re-elected, hahaha.”\n…but also, “The Big Lie” yadda yadda yadda fuck non-whites lol”",
">\n\nDude needs to shrink his midsection. He looks like he’s shoplifting chuck roasts",
">\n\nHe should have said:. I got reelected, loser.",
">\n\nI guess his election is the only one that’s legitimate. Maybe we should check that out, just to make sure he got elected fair and square. After all, he is a Republican fascist.",
">\n\nin florida - big deal - adolph hitler or benito mussolini could get elected in florida.",
">\n\nDeSantis won in a landslide so he has a point. Florida likes him a lot more than Trump.",
">\n\nI love it. Trump is going to demolish desantis, steal the nom and lose the general...",
">\n\nHa! Ronald is starting to crack under the pressure of Donald’s badmouthing.",
">\n\n\n...former GOP Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who Trump mocked and chased out of the 2016 race for president.\n\nPolitico throwing shade, damn! 😆\n(Please clap.)",
">\n\nI think he just called Trump a looser.",
">\n\nWell, he is kinda flabby.",
">\n\nThe only reason he is saying anything bad to Donnie is his team of political data scientists know he can get away with based on their numerous focus groups and polls. Desantis isn’t dumb.",
">\n\nFight fight fight",
">\n\nFight fight fight fight!",
">\n\nHow can Trump even knock him on how he handled covid? Isn’t that admitting to his base that the threat was real? \nThe mental gymnastics, how do they keep up?",
">\n\nTo be fair, Trump did have a religious conversion about Covid after he contracted it and would have died except for the miracles of modern science.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what I thought DeSantis would do if/when Trump went after him.\n\"It's pretty simple, folks. I'm a winner. He's a massive loser. You want to win, right? Then don't support the loser.\"\nThis will infuriate Trump and make him look even worse and more desperate than he already does.",
">\n\nI attended this session in person. He handled the question deftly and the crowd applauded his answer. \nFlorida loves DeSantis and there are signs more people are looking at DeSantis more favorably than Trump. This is because DeSantis represents a new generation of politics with more energy on current issues and a record of accomplishing goals at the state level. \nIf you see Trump’s latest press conferences he is clearly following in Ron’s steps on the culture conflicts."
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"Yes. Eat each other.",
">\n\nI’ll just be over here with some popcorn.",
">\n\nMight as well bring a steak. \nThere's gonna be a fire",
">\n\nWho wants hamberders?",
">\n\nMe.",
">\n\n^ This guy hamberders. Come on get in here... dig in.",
">\n\nTrump won Florida both times tho. Starting to think any deep-fried turd can win in Florida",
">\n\nAnd Rick Scott.\nWith DeSantis, Gaetz and Scott being mention, you may now rest your case.",
">\n\nSeeing that they don’t believe climate change over there can’t you guys just… i don’t know let Florida sink?",
">\n\nThe dingly dangly state is clearly infected. We need to amputate it at the Georgia.",
">\n\nYou'll watch DeSantis's approval rating and 2024 support go up. \nRepublican voters love this kind of stuff. They want a strongman.",
">\n\nEh until he actually has to go on TV. DeSantis has negative charisma. I hate il Douche with almost every fiber of my being but at least I can recognize he has a certain kind of media appeal. Ronnie has literally built a career on triggering the libs and sucking up to Trump. He's a political paper tiger.",
">\n\nDeSantis has very limited social skills. He's said to \"not be a people person\", is uncomfortable informally chatting in groups, and has been observed just walking away, mid-conversation with peers.\nThis is anecdotal, but if he runs, all aspects of his persona will be exposed.\nGenuinely connecting with ordinary folks on an emotional level is only one of Biden's many strengths, and is necessary to win elections.\nDeSantis will absolutely not be able to compete / prevail on a national scale.\nStick to Florida, Little Hitler: that's your only lane.",
">\n\nHe seemed very weird in the few debates I saw. Trump would eat him up on a debate stage.",
">\n\n“Got reelected.” At what cost- to make Floridan's lives, especially students/educators, more miserable?",
">\n\nI'm sure DeSantis doesn't care. It's all a popularity contest to these guys",
">\n\nAlways has been, sort of. In blue states it's a popularity contest. In red states their thumb is heavily on the scale in non statewide races. Governor is a statewide race and DeSantis won by a fair bit over his opponent Crist so his popularity is real.",
">\n\nThe Florida Democrats ran a Luke warm candidate hoping they'd be able to grab the moderate republican vote against DeSantis, on top of that their campaign game is weak in the state.",
">\n\nRed-on-red on crime is my favorite kind of crime!",
">\n\nMine is theft, but I am partial to arson",
">\n\n\"My angry inch is more angry than you're angry inch!\"",
">\n\nI'd love for santis to run as repub and dump to run third party split that vote baby",
">\n\nAt some point after the 2020 election, I created a chart of \"What if 2024 was a repeat of 2020, but Trump was a third party candidate pulling 30% of the Republican vote.\" Almost the entire country was a field of blue. Some of the deepest red states would still go red, but just barely.",
">\n\nIf that happens that would be the funniest fucking thing that screws over the republican party forever and i so desperately want it to happen.",
">\n\nIf he loses the primary he's going to dedicate his time to bringing them down so he can say only he could have won but the party cheated him out. He said Ted Cruz cheated against him at the Iowa caucus\nThe only chance Ron would have is if Trump was promised a pardon but at this point does trump think he'll ever face charges and is he capable of backing a guy like Desantis who defeated him for months? Probably not",
">\n\nPeople like Trump don’t trust in promises.",
">\n\nWell I don’t trust in promises from people like Trump, so I guess things kind of even out.",
">\n\nThat’s the reason. Liars think everyone else is lying.",
">\n\nThat’s how they justify the lies. If everyone else is lying, they’re only playing by the same rules.\nTo be clear, everyone is NOT lying",
">\n\nLock both of these criminals up!",
">\n\nSo, to put this in the context for what DeSantis is suggesting, I believe in a head-to-head for the Florida governorship, Trump would beat DeSantis hands down.",
">\n\nI dunno, in 2020 Trump got 51.2% of the vote, in 2022 DeSantis got 59.4% (though fewer votes in total than Trump in 2020).",
">\n\nComing from an independent here in Florida no way Trump would beat DeSantis in Florida.Trump support is just down to the Flag waving Trump is my whole personality crowd.",
">\n\nAnd that crowd keeps shrinking as Tantruming Trump keeps lashing out at other people his supporters like. They liked his lashing out when it attacked their opposition, they don't like it when it's attacking their friends.",
">\n\nEveryone send letters to Maralago encouraging Trump to start a 3rd party.",
">\n\n\"Dear Mr. President who is very smart and handsome and has really big hands...\"",
">\n\nOr, more accurately:\nMy voter base is dumber than yours!",
">\n\nHeh, wannabe authoritarian spars with the Traitor. \nDumb and dumber 3, Rinse, Recycle, Repeat...\nRRR from the GOP",
">\n\nThat's the closest thing to an admission that there was no voter fraud that we're ever likely to get",
">\n\nFlorida voters are the most masochistic people you’ll ever meet.",
">\n\nMatch made in heaven since they only elect sadists.",
">\n\nFight, you fucking swine, fight.",
">\n\nThey both stand like centaurs missing their back half’s. Why do they stand so weird?????",
">\n\nBoth of these guys pretty much are the back half of a centaur.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until the entire nation sees how absolutely irritating he is.",
">\n\nTo be fair Trump won Florida with the same group of misinformed Fox News mainliners.",
">\n\nTrump should run for Florida governor",
">\n\nYeah, that would be really fun to watch. DeSantis would shit his pants. And both of them would descend to a level of dumbassery \"the likes of which has never been seen in the history of the world.\"",
">\n\nDeSantis is term-limited (as of today’s laws) so he could care less.",
">\n\nyea but didn't he draw up his own maps",
">\n\nDidn’t he have to use illegally gerrymandered maps to win?",
">\n\nIn Florida. I mean, Trump won Florida twice too. That's not a huge snap back. But I'm not going to defend Trump. Let them fight.",
">\n\nThe height of Republican discourse, here. \nSomeone smells blood in the water.",
">\n\nPopcorn! Get your popcorn here!\nBuy the jumbo sized bucket and get a free soda!",
">\n\nRight. It's easier to suppress voters in one state vice an entire country.",
">\n\nRonnie better be careful, much of trumps base has a collective delusion that trump won his election too.",
">\n\nLet them fight.",
">\n\nNot as sick of a burn as he thinks. In Trump's mind, he was reelected too.",
">\n\nThe one thing I look forward to is Donald going for vengeance against this dimwit.",
">\n\nThey’re both terrible, and it’s embarrassing they’re even in the running for anything.",
">\n\nDeSantis just asserted the election was valid.",
">\n\nSo Media, are we going to have endure every single hissy fit from these two clowns throw at each other for the duration?",
">\n\nYes, yes we will. Submit to the machine my friend.",
">\n\nAs much as I despise both of them, that's a pretty good backhand slap",
">\n\nSnaps back? These media outlets are making total fools out of themselves with this undignified slang in their headlines.",
">\n\nThis and “claps back” makes me see red.",
">\n\nBy denying millions of votes.",
">\n\nHow long do you think it will be before they start shipping immigrants at each other?",
">\n\nLol good one",
">\n\nDeSantis is much smarter than Trump. He’s a scary politician.",
">\n\nlol BURN.",
">\n\nIt's a smackdown.\nTrump's going to send his henchman Marjorie Taylor Green to climb into the ring when no one's looking and hit him with a chair.",
">\n\nWhen he gets elected by the maga, that's when we see how stupid Americans are.",
">\n\nOr how corrupt the state election boards are across America",
">\n\nThat's honestly not a bad argument, everything considered.",
">\n\nDeSantis' (\"Desanctimonious\") only worth is that he pisses off Trump.",
">\n\nCant wait to watch these two grown men children fight each other",
">\n\nOoh, scat fight! Scat fight!",
">\n\nAt about the point where I couldn’t distinguish between republicans political rhetoric and a couple of 3rd graders on the schoolyard, I tuned out of politics. Fuck these morons.",
">\n\nI mean, through cheating and having a Nazi election police force to arrest black voters who did nothing wrong. And through gerrymandering the other seats, and using illegal maps. So not really.",
">\n\nI was expecting a “slam” but I’ll settle for a “snap”.",
">\n\nHahaha I love all this infighting",
">\n\nSnaps back?!? More like a very weak Neener Neener. And Trump saying “he’s disloyal”? Come on, guys, get in there!",
">\n\n...and he can walk in high heels...",
">\n\nAs much as I don't like DeSantis, I'm here for all the reminders that Trump's a loser",
">\n\nIt's on.",
">\n\nHe was only re-elected because he had Trumps support. Desanctimonious will be in fur a big surprise come the primaries.",
">\n\nThe Republican primaries are going to turn into a dogpile on Trump, can't wait.",
">\n\nTrump just got made to look like a fucking LOSER. A real man would fight back no matter what.",
">\n\nIt’s on like Donkey Kong",
">\n\nThis guy always looks constipated to me",
">\n\n...and with that, the bloodfest begins...",
">\n\nLol. Ok Ronny. Just remember never wrestle with a pig…..",
">\n\nNice. Fight fight fight fight",
">\n\nYeah and both yall look like shit in your suits.",
">\n\nIf Trump is trying to evade jail time he should run as DeSantis' VP. Automatic win for the Republicans. They would control the all branches of government.",
">\n\nTrump and DeSantis are both pieces of shit. Fuck them. but with that said: seeing trump get dunked on is always great lol",
">\n\nIt’s happening! It’s happening! This is exciting, it’s always nice to see horrible people be pitted against each other.",
">\n\nThey're both fucking chodes.",
">\n\nOh man I can't wait to see all the in-fighting between rednecks here in Florida. Wonder how I can help stir the pot...",
">\n\nFight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!",
">\n\noooo, ronny getting testy. ok, maybe we got a ballgame!",
">\n\nOh hot diggity, shots fired!",
">\n\nKeep fighting, ya scums!",
">\n\nBattle of the Bastards",
">\n\nDesantis lacks a soul.",
">\n\nCrazy or not, he’s not wrong. As much heat as him and Abbot get they got re-elected in a landslide. Equal criticism should fall in the shoulders that put him them in power repeatedly.",
">\n\nGuys guys, you’re both just terrible.",
">\n\nYesss feed the hatred",
">\n\nTechically it would be politically poor optics for Desantis to get bitchy with trump, as he needs to maintain that base, else he risks dividing the base. That being said, I hope trump pesters the living shit out of him. Make this piggy squeal and insult trumpism. Self richeous conservative pride like that has a lot of anger in it.\n\"Let them fight\"",
">\n\nSo he believes Biden won in a free and fair election?",
">\n\nWait, what happened to election denial? I thought the line was that the election was stolen?",
">\n\nWatching them sling shit at one another is SO entertaining!",
">\n\nThat Trump alleges he could stop the Dems from stealing DeSuckass's election but not from stealing his own is some cuck shit.",
">\n\nAfter preventing Democrats from voting and having how many Republicans vote twice- yes- he “got re-elected”.",
">\n\nLet the chest thumping and dick swinging begin (or continue?).",
">\n\nThis is going to be fun …",
">\n\nOnly because the democrats campaign was practically nonexistent, im sure he would’ve lost if they actually cared enough to run a competent candidate",
">\n\nLet the Republicans fight themselves.",
">\n\n“I got re-elected, hahaha.”\n…but also, “The Big Lie” yadda yadda yadda fuck non-whites lol”",
">\n\nDude needs to shrink his midsection. He looks like he’s shoplifting chuck roasts",
">\n\nHe should have said:. I got reelected, loser.",
">\n\nI guess his election is the only one that’s legitimate. Maybe we should check that out, just to make sure he got elected fair and square. After all, he is a Republican fascist.",
">\n\nin florida - big deal - adolph hitler or benito mussolini could get elected in florida.",
">\n\nDeSantis won in a landslide so he has a point. Florida likes him a lot more than Trump.",
">\n\nI love it. Trump is going to demolish desantis, steal the nom and lose the general...",
">\n\nHa! Ronald is starting to crack under the pressure of Donald’s badmouthing.",
">\n\n\n...former GOP Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who Trump mocked and chased out of the 2016 race for president.\n\nPolitico throwing shade, damn! 😆\n(Please clap.)",
">\n\nI think he just called Trump a looser.",
">\n\nWell, he is kinda flabby.",
">\n\nThe only reason he is saying anything bad to Donnie is his team of political data scientists know he can get away with based on their numerous focus groups and polls. Desantis isn’t dumb.",
">\n\nFight fight fight",
">\n\nFight fight fight fight!",
">\n\nHow can Trump even knock him on how he handled covid? Isn’t that admitting to his base that the threat was real? \nThe mental gymnastics, how do they keep up?",
">\n\nTo be fair, Trump did have a religious conversion about Covid after he contracted it and would have died except for the miracles of modern science.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what I thought DeSantis would do if/when Trump went after him.\n\"It's pretty simple, folks. I'm a winner. He's a massive loser. You want to win, right? Then don't support the loser.\"\nThis will infuriate Trump and make him look even worse and more desperate than he already does.",
">\n\nI attended this session in person. He handled the question deftly and the crowd applauded his answer. \nFlorida loves DeSantis and there are signs more people are looking at DeSantis more favorably than Trump. This is because DeSantis represents a new generation of politics with more energy on current issues and a record of accomplishing goals at the state level. \nIf you see Trump’s latest press conferences he is clearly following in Ron’s steps on the culture conflicts.",
">\n\nTrump fights dirty and probably has the goods on all these chodes DeSantis included, I wouldn’t count him out yet",
">\n\nI don’t disagree there at all. DeSantis has been quietly preparing for a grudge match for sure.",
">\n\nYes. Eat each other.",
">\n\nI’ll just be over here with some popcorn.",
">\n\nMight as well bring a steak. \nThere's gonna be a fire",
">\n\nWho wants hamberders?",
">\n\nMe.",
">\n\n^ This guy hamberders. Come on get in here... dig in.",
">\n\nTrump won Florida both times tho. Starting to think any deep-fried turd can win in Florida",
">\n\nAnd Rick Scott.\nWith DeSantis, Gaetz and Scott being mention, you may now rest your case.",
">\n\nSeeing that they don’t believe climate change over there can’t you guys just… i don’t know let Florida sink?",
">\n\nThe dingly dangly state is clearly infected. We need to amputate it at the Georgia.",
">\n\nYou'll watch DeSantis's approval rating and 2024 support go up. \nRepublican voters love this kind of stuff. They want a strongman.",
">\n\nEh until he actually has to go on TV. DeSantis has negative charisma. I hate il Douche with almost every fiber of my being but at least I can recognize he has a certain kind of media appeal. Ronnie has literally built a career on triggering the libs and sucking up to Trump. He's a political paper tiger.",
">\n\nDeSantis has very limited social skills. He's said to \"not be a people person\", is uncomfortable informally chatting in groups, and has been observed just walking away, mid-conversation with peers.\nThis is anecdotal, but if he runs, all aspects of his persona will be exposed.\nGenuinely connecting with ordinary folks on an emotional level is only one of Biden's many strengths, and is necessary to win elections.\nDeSantis will absolutely not be able to compete / prevail on a national scale.\nStick to Florida, Little Hitler: that's your only lane.",
">\n\nHe seemed very weird in the few debates I saw. Trump would eat him up on a debate stage.",
">\n\n“Got reelected.” At what cost- to make Floridan's lives, especially students/educators, more miserable?",
">\n\nI'm sure DeSantis doesn't care. It's all a popularity contest to these guys",
">\n\nAlways has been, sort of. In blue states it's a popularity contest. In red states their thumb is heavily on the scale in non statewide races. Governor is a statewide race and DeSantis won by a fair bit over his opponent Crist so his popularity is real.",
">\n\nThe Florida Democrats ran a Luke warm candidate hoping they'd be able to grab the moderate republican vote against DeSantis, on top of that their campaign game is weak in the state.",
">\n\nRed-on-red on crime is my favorite kind of crime!",
">\n\nMine is theft, but I am partial to arson",
">\n\n\"My angry inch is more angry than you're angry inch!\"",
">\n\nI'd love for santis to run as repub and dump to run third party split that vote baby",
">\n\nAt some point after the 2020 election, I created a chart of \"What if 2024 was a repeat of 2020, but Trump was a third party candidate pulling 30% of the Republican vote.\" Almost the entire country was a field of blue. Some of the deepest red states would still go red, but just barely.",
">\n\nIf that happens that would be the funniest fucking thing that screws over the republican party forever and i so desperately want it to happen.",
">\n\nIf he loses the primary he's going to dedicate his time to bringing them down so he can say only he could have won but the party cheated him out. He said Ted Cruz cheated against him at the Iowa caucus\nThe only chance Ron would have is if Trump was promised a pardon but at this point does trump think he'll ever face charges and is he capable of backing a guy like Desantis who defeated him for months? Probably not",
">\n\nPeople like Trump don’t trust in promises.",
">\n\nWell I don’t trust in promises from people like Trump, so I guess things kind of even out.",
">\n\nThat’s the reason. Liars think everyone else is lying.",
">\n\nThat’s how they justify the lies. If everyone else is lying, they’re only playing by the same rules.\nTo be clear, everyone is NOT lying",
">\n\nLock both of these criminals up!",
">\n\nSo, to put this in the context for what DeSantis is suggesting, I believe in a head-to-head for the Florida governorship, Trump would beat DeSantis hands down.",
">\n\nI dunno, in 2020 Trump got 51.2% of the vote, in 2022 DeSantis got 59.4% (though fewer votes in total than Trump in 2020).",
">\n\nComing from an independent here in Florida no way Trump would beat DeSantis in Florida.Trump support is just down to the Flag waving Trump is my whole personality crowd.",
">\n\nAnd that crowd keeps shrinking as Tantruming Trump keeps lashing out at other people his supporters like. They liked his lashing out when it attacked their opposition, they don't like it when it's attacking their friends.",
">\n\nEveryone send letters to Maralago encouraging Trump to start a 3rd party.",
">\n\n\"Dear Mr. President who is very smart and handsome and has really big hands...\"",
">\n\nOr, more accurately:\nMy voter base is dumber than yours!",
">\n\nHeh, wannabe authoritarian spars with the Traitor. \nDumb and dumber 3, Rinse, Recycle, Repeat...\nRRR from the GOP",
">\n\nThat's the closest thing to an admission that there was no voter fraud that we're ever likely to get",
">\n\nFlorida voters are the most masochistic people you’ll ever meet.",
">\n\nMatch made in heaven since they only elect sadists.",
">\n\nFight, you fucking swine, fight.",
">\n\nThey both stand like centaurs missing their back half’s. Why do they stand so weird?????",
">\n\nBoth of these guys pretty much are the back half of a centaur.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until the entire nation sees how absolutely irritating he is.",
">\n\nTo be fair Trump won Florida with the same group of misinformed Fox News mainliners.",
">\n\nTrump should run for Florida governor",
">\n\nYeah, that would be really fun to watch. DeSantis would shit his pants. And both of them would descend to a level of dumbassery \"the likes of which has never been seen in the history of the world.\"",
">\n\nDeSantis is term-limited (as of today’s laws) so he could care less.",
">\n\nyea but didn't he draw up his own maps",
">\n\nDidn’t he have to use illegally gerrymandered maps to win?",
">\n\nIn Florida. I mean, Trump won Florida twice too. That's not a huge snap back. But I'm not going to defend Trump. Let them fight.",
">\n\nThe height of Republican discourse, here. \nSomeone smells blood in the water.",
">\n\nPopcorn! Get your popcorn here!\nBuy the jumbo sized bucket and get a free soda!",
">\n\nRight. It's easier to suppress voters in one state vice an entire country.",
">\n\nRonnie better be careful, much of trumps base has a collective delusion that trump won his election too.",
">\n\nLet them fight.",
">\n\nNot as sick of a burn as he thinks. In Trump's mind, he was reelected too.",
">\n\nThe one thing I look forward to is Donald going for vengeance against this dimwit.",
">\n\nThey’re both terrible, and it’s embarrassing they’re even in the running for anything.",
">\n\nDeSantis just asserted the election was valid.",
">\n\nSo Media, are we going to have endure every single hissy fit from these two clowns throw at each other for the duration?",
">\n\nYes, yes we will. Submit to the machine my friend.",
">\n\nAs much as I despise both of them, that's a pretty good backhand slap",
">\n\nSnaps back? These media outlets are making total fools out of themselves with this undignified slang in their headlines.",
">\n\nThis and “claps back” makes me see red.",
">\n\nBy denying millions of votes.",
">\n\nHow long do you think it will be before they start shipping immigrants at each other?",
">\n\nLol good one",
">\n\nDeSantis is much smarter than Trump. He’s a scary politician.",
">\n\nlol BURN.",
">\n\nIt's a smackdown.\nTrump's going to send his henchman Marjorie Taylor Green to climb into the ring when no one's looking and hit him with a chair.",
">\n\nWhen he gets elected by the maga, that's when we see how stupid Americans are.",
">\n\nOr how corrupt the state election boards are across America",
">\n\nThat's honestly not a bad argument, everything considered.",
">\n\nDeSantis' (\"Desanctimonious\") only worth is that he pisses off Trump.",
">\n\nCant wait to watch these two grown men children fight each other",
">\n\nOoh, scat fight! Scat fight!",
">\n\nAt about the point where I couldn’t distinguish between republicans political rhetoric and a couple of 3rd graders on the schoolyard, I tuned out of politics. Fuck these morons.",
">\n\nI mean, through cheating and having a Nazi election police force to arrest black voters who did nothing wrong. And through gerrymandering the other seats, and using illegal maps. So not really.",
">\n\nI was expecting a “slam” but I’ll settle for a “snap”.",
">\n\nHahaha I love all this infighting",
">\n\nSnaps back?!? More like a very weak Neener Neener. And Trump saying “he’s disloyal”? Come on, guys, get in there!",
">\n\n...and he can walk in high heels...",
">\n\nAs much as I don't like DeSantis, I'm here for all the reminders that Trump's a loser",
">\n\nIt's on.",
">\n\nHe was only re-elected because he had Trumps support. Desanctimonious will be in fur a big surprise come the primaries.",
">\n\nThe Republican primaries are going to turn into a dogpile on Trump, can't wait.",
">\n\nTrump just got made to look like a fucking LOSER. A real man would fight back no matter what.",
">\n\nIt’s on like Donkey Kong",
">\n\nThis guy always looks constipated to me",
">\n\n...and with that, the bloodfest begins...",
">\n\nLol. Ok Ronny. Just remember never wrestle with a pig…..",
">\n\nNice. Fight fight fight fight",
">\n\nYeah and both yall look like shit in your suits.",
">\n\nIf Trump is trying to evade jail time he should run as DeSantis' VP. Automatic win for the Republicans. They would control the all branches of government.",
">\n\nTrump and DeSantis are both pieces of shit. Fuck them. but with that said: seeing trump get dunked on is always great lol",
">\n\nIt’s happening! It’s happening! This is exciting, it’s always nice to see horrible people be pitted against each other.",
">\n\nThey're both fucking chodes.",
">\n\nOh man I can't wait to see all the in-fighting between rednecks here in Florida. Wonder how I can help stir the pot...",
">\n\nFight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!",
">\n\noooo, ronny getting testy. ok, maybe we got a ballgame!",
">\n\nOh hot diggity, shots fired!",
">\n\nKeep fighting, ya scums!",
">\n\nBattle of the Bastards",
">\n\nDesantis lacks a soul.",
">\n\nCrazy or not, he’s not wrong. As much heat as him and Abbot get they got re-elected in a landslide. Equal criticism should fall in the shoulders that put him them in power repeatedly.",
">\n\nGuys guys, you’re both just terrible.",
">\n\nYesss feed the hatred",
">\n\nTechically it would be politically poor optics for Desantis to get bitchy with trump, as he needs to maintain that base, else he risks dividing the base. That being said, I hope trump pesters the living shit out of him. Make this piggy squeal and insult trumpism. Self richeous conservative pride like that has a lot of anger in it.\n\"Let them fight\"",
">\n\nSo he believes Biden won in a free and fair election?",
">\n\nWait, what happened to election denial? I thought the line was that the election was stolen?",
">\n\nWatching them sling shit at one another is SO entertaining!",
">\n\nThat Trump alleges he could stop the Dems from stealing DeSuckass's election but not from stealing his own is some cuck shit.",
">\n\nAfter preventing Democrats from voting and having how many Republicans vote twice- yes- he “got re-elected”.",
">\n\nLet the chest thumping and dick swinging begin (or continue?).",
">\n\nThis is going to be fun …",
">\n\nOnly because the democrats campaign was practically nonexistent, im sure he would’ve lost if they actually cared enough to run a competent candidate",
">\n\nLet the Republicans fight themselves.",
">\n\n“I got re-elected, hahaha.”\n…but also, “The Big Lie” yadda yadda yadda fuck non-whites lol”",
">\n\nDude needs to shrink his midsection. He looks like he’s shoplifting chuck roasts",
">\n\nHe should have said:. I got reelected, loser.",
">\n\nI guess his election is the only one that’s legitimate. Maybe we should check that out, just to make sure he got elected fair and square. After all, he is a Republican fascist.",
">\n\nin florida - big deal - adolph hitler or benito mussolini could get elected in florida.",
">\n\nDeSantis won in a landslide so he has a point. Florida likes him a lot more than Trump.",
">\n\nI love it. Trump is going to demolish desantis, steal the nom and lose the general...",
">\n\nHa! Ronald is starting to crack under the pressure of Donald’s badmouthing.",
">\n\n\n...former GOP Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who Trump mocked and chased out of the 2016 race for president.\n\nPolitico throwing shade, damn! 😆\n(Please clap.)",
">\n\nI think he just called Trump a looser.",
">\n\nWell, he is kinda flabby.",
">\n\nThe only reason he is saying anything bad to Donnie is his team of political data scientists know he can get away with based on their numerous focus groups and polls. Desantis isn’t dumb.",
">\n\nFight fight fight",
">\n\nFight fight fight fight!",
">\n\nHow can Trump even knock him on how he handled covid? Isn’t that admitting to his base that the threat was real? \nThe mental gymnastics, how do they keep up?",
">\n\nTo be fair, Trump did have a religious conversion about Covid after he contracted it and would have died except for the miracles of modern science.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what I thought DeSantis would do if/when Trump went after him.\n\"It's pretty simple, folks. I'm a winner. He's a massive loser. You want to win, right? Then don't support the loser.\"\nThis will infuriate Trump and make him look even worse and more desperate than he already does.",
">\n\nI attended this session in person. He handled the question deftly and the crowd applauded his answer. \nFlorida loves DeSantis and there are signs more people are looking at DeSantis more favorably than Trump. This is because DeSantis represents a new generation of politics with more energy on current issues and a record of accomplishing goals at the state level. \nIf you see Trump’s latest press conferences he is clearly following in Ron’s steps on the culture conflicts.",
">\n\nTrump fights dirty and probably has the goods on all these chodes DeSantis included, I wouldn’t count him out yet"
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"Yes. Eat each other.",
">\n\nI’ll just be over here with some popcorn.",
">\n\nMight as well bring a steak. \nThere's gonna be a fire",
">\n\nWho wants hamberders?",
">\n\nMe.",
">\n\n^ This guy hamberders. Come on get in here... dig in.",
">\n\nTrump won Florida both times tho. Starting to think any deep-fried turd can win in Florida",
">\n\nAnd Rick Scott.\nWith DeSantis, Gaetz and Scott being mention, you may now rest your case.",
">\n\nSeeing that they don’t believe climate change over there can’t you guys just… i don’t know let Florida sink?",
">\n\nThe dingly dangly state is clearly infected. We need to amputate it at the Georgia.",
">\n\nYou'll watch DeSantis's approval rating and 2024 support go up. \nRepublican voters love this kind of stuff. They want a strongman.",
">\n\nEh until he actually has to go on TV. DeSantis has negative charisma. I hate il Douche with almost every fiber of my being but at least I can recognize he has a certain kind of media appeal. Ronnie has literally built a career on triggering the libs and sucking up to Trump. He's a political paper tiger.",
">\n\nDeSantis has very limited social skills. He's said to \"not be a people person\", is uncomfortable informally chatting in groups, and has been observed just walking away, mid-conversation with peers.\nThis is anecdotal, but if he runs, all aspects of his persona will be exposed.\nGenuinely connecting with ordinary folks on an emotional level is only one of Biden's many strengths, and is necessary to win elections.\nDeSantis will absolutely not be able to compete / prevail on a national scale.\nStick to Florida, Little Hitler: that's your only lane.",
">\n\nHe seemed very weird in the few debates I saw. Trump would eat him up on a debate stage.",
">\n\n“Got reelected.” At what cost- to make Floridan's lives, especially students/educators, more miserable?",
">\n\nI'm sure DeSantis doesn't care. It's all a popularity contest to these guys",
">\n\nAlways has been, sort of. In blue states it's a popularity contest. In red states their thumb is heavily on the scale in non statewide races. Governor is a statewide race and DeSantis won by a fair bit over his opponent Crist so his popularity is real.",
">\n\nThe Florida Democrats ran a Luke warm candidate hoping they'd be able to grab the moderate republican vote against DeSantis, on top of that their campaign game is weak in the state.",
">\n\nRed-on-red on crime is my favorite kind of crime!",
">\n\nMine is theft, but I am partial to arson",
">\n\n\"My angry inch is more angry than you're angry inch!\"",
">\n\nI'd love for santis to run as repub and dump to run third party split that vote baby",
">\n\nAt some point after the 2020 election, I created a chart of \"What if 2024 was a repeat of 2020, but Trump was a third party candidate pulling 30% of the Republican vote.\" Almost the entire country was a field of blue. Some of the deepest red states would still go red, but just barely.",
">\n\nIf that happens that would be the funniest fucking thing that screws over the republican party forever and i so desperately want it to happen.",
">\n\nIf he loses the primary he's going to dedicate his time to bringing them down so he can say only he could have won but the party cheated him out. He said Ted Cruz cheated against him at the Iowa caucus\nThe only chance Ron would have is if Trump was promised a pardon but at this point does trump think he'll ever face charges and is he capable of backing a guy like Desantis who defeated him for months? Probably not",
">\n\nPeople like Trump don’t trust in promises.",
">\n\nWell I don’t trust in promises from people like Trump, so I guess things kind of even out.",
">\n\nThat’s the reason. Liars think everyone else is lying.",
">\n\nThat’s how they justify the lies. If everyone else is lying, they’re only playing by the same rules.\nTo be clear, everyone is NOT lying",
">\n\nLock both of these criminals up!",
">\n\nSo, to put this in the context for what DeSantis is suggesting, I believe in a head-to-head for the Florida governorship, Trump would beat DeSantis hands down.",
">\n\nI dunno, in 2020 Trump got 51.2% of the vote, in 2022 DeSantis got 59.4% (though fewer votes in total than Trump in 2020).",
">\n\nComing from an independent here in Florida no way Trump would beat DeSantis in Florida.Trump support is just down to the Flag waving Trump is my whole personality crowd.",
">\n\nAnd that crowd keeps shrinking as Tantruming Trump keeps lashing out at other people his supporters like. They liked his lashing out when it attacked their opposition, they don't like it when it's attacking their friends.",
">\n\nEveryone send letters to Maralago encouraging Trump to start a 3rd party.",
">\n\n\"Dear Mr. President who is very smart and handsome and has really big hands...\"",
">\n\nOr, more accurately:\nMy voter base is dumber than yours!",
">\n\nHeh, wannabe authoritarian spars with the Traitor. \nDumb and dumber 3, Rinse, Recycle, Repeat...\nRRR from the GOP",
">\n\nThat's the closest thing to an admission that there was no voter fraud that we're ever likely to get",
">\n\nFlorida voters are the most masochistic people you’ll ever meet.",
">\n\nMatch made in heaven since they only elect sadists.",
">\n\nFight, you fucking swine, fight.",
">\n\nThey both stand like centaurs missing their back half’s. Why do they stand so weird?????",
">\n\nBoth of these guys pretty much are the back half of a centaur.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until the entire nation sees how absolutely irritating he is.",
">\n\nTo be fair Trump won Florida with the same group of misinformed Fox News mainliners.",
">\n\nTrump should run for Florida governor",
">\n\nYeah, that would be really fun to watch. DeSantis would shit his pants. And both of them would descend to a level of dumbassery \"the likes of which has never been seen in the history of the world.\"",
">\n\nDeSantis is term-limited (as of today’s laws) so he could care less.",
">\n\nyea but didn't he draw up his own maps",
">\n\nDidn’t he have to use illegally gerrymandered maps to win?",
">\n\nIn Florida. I mean, Trump won Florida twice too. That's not a huge snap back. But I'm not going to defend Trump. Let them fight.",
">\n\nThe height of Republican discourse, here. \nSomeone smells blood in the water.",
">\n\nPopcorn! Get your popcorn here!\nBuy the jumbo sized bucket and get a free soda!",
">\n\nRight. It's easier to suppress voters in one state vice an entire country.",
">\n\nRonnie better be careful, much of trumps base has a collective delusion that trump won his election too.",
">\n\nLet them fight.",
">\n\nNot as sick of a burn as he thinks. In Trump's mind, he was reelected too.",
">\n\nThe one thing I look forward to is Donald going for vengeance against this dimwit.",
">\n\nThey’re both terrible, and it’s embarrassing they’re even in the running for anything.",
">\n\nDeSantis just asserted the election was valid.",
">\n\nSo Media, are we going to have endure every single hissy fit from these two clowns throw at each other for the duration?",
">\n\nYes, yes we will. Submit to the machine my friend.",
">\n\nAs much as I despise both of them, that's a pretty good backhand slap",
">\n\nSnaps back? These media outlets are making total fools out of themselves with this undignified slang in their headlines.",
">\n\nThis and “claps back” makes me see red.",
">\n\nBy denying millions of votes.",
">\n\nHow long do you think it will be before they start shipping immigrants at each other?",
">\n\nLol good one",
">\n\nDeSantis is much smarter than Trump. He’s a scary politician.",
">\n\nlol BURN.",
">\n\nIt's a smackdown.\nTrump's going to send his henchman Marjorie Taylor Green to climb into the ring when no one's looking and hit him with a chair.",
">\n\nWhen he gets elected by the maga, that's when we see how stupid Americans are.",
">\n\nOr how corrupt the state election boards are across America",
">\n\nThat's honestly not a bad argument, everything considered.",
">\n\nDeSantis' (\"Desanctimonious\") only worth is that he pisses off Trump.",
">\n\nCant wait to watch these two grown men children fight each other",
">\n\nOoh, scat fight! Scat fight!",
">\n\nAt about the point where I couldn’t distinguish between republicans political rhetoric and a couple of 3rd graders on the schoolyard, I tuned out of politics. Fuck these morons.",
">\n\nI mean, through cheating and having a Nazi election police force to arrest black voters who did nothing wrong. And through gerrymandering the other seats, and using illegal maps. So not really.",
">\n\nI was expecting a “slam” but I’ll settle for a “snap”.",
">\n\nHahaha I love all this infighting",
">\n\nSnaps back?!? More like a very weak Neener Neener. And Trump saying “he’s disloyal”? Come on, guys, get in there!",
">\n\n...and he can walk in high heels...",
">\n\nAs much as I don't like DeSantis, I'm here for all the reminders that Trump's a loser",
">\n\nIt's on.",
">\n\nHe was only re-elected because he had Trumps support. Desanctimonious will be in fur a big surprise come the primaries.",
">\n\nThe Republican primaries are going to turn into a dogpile on Trump, can't wait.",
">\n\nTrump just got made to look like a fucking LOSER. A real man would fight back no matter what.",
">\n\nIt’s on like Donkey Kong",
">\n\nThis guy always looks constipated to me",
">\n\n...and with that, the bloodfest begins...",
">\n\nLol. Ok Ronny. Just remember never wrestle with a pig…..",
">\n\nNice. Fight fight fight fight",
">\n\nYeah and both yall look like shit in your suits.",
">\n\nIf Trump is trying to evade jail time he should run as DeSantis' VP. Automatic win for the Republicans. They would control the all branches of government.",
">\n\nTrump and DeSantis are both pieces of shit. Fuck them. but with that said: seeing trump get dunked on is always great lol",
">\n\nIt’s happening! It’s happening! This is exciting, it’s always nice to see horrible people be pitted against each other.",
">\n\nThey're both fucking chodes.",
">\n\nOh man I can't wait to see all the in-fighting between rednecks here in Florida. Wonder how I can help stir the pot...",
">\n\nFight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!",
">\n\noooo, ronny getting testy. ok, maybe we got a ballgame!",
">\n\nOh hot diggity, shots fired!",
">\n\nKeep fighting, ya scums!",
">\n\nBattle of the Bastards",
">\n\nDesantis lacks a soul.",
">\n\nCrazy or not, he’s not wrong. As much heat as him and Abbot get they got re-elected in a landslide. Equal criticism should fall in the shoulders that put him them in power repeatedly.",
">\n\nGuys guys, you’re both just terrible.",
">\n\nYesss feed the hatred",
">\n\nTechically it would be politically poor optics for Desantis to get bitchy with trump, as he needs to maintain that base, else he risks dividing the base. That being said, I hope trump pesters the living shit out of him. Make this piggy squeal and insult trumpism. Self richeous conservative pride like that has a lot of anger in it.\n\"Let them fight\"",
">\n\nSo he believes Biden won in a free and fair election?",
">\n\nWait, what happened to election denial? I thought the line was that the election was stolen?",
">\n\nWatching them sling shit at one another is SO entertaining!",
">\n\nThat Trump alleges he could stop the Dems from stealing DeSuckass's election but not from stealing his own is some cuck shit.",
">\n\nAfter preventing Democrats from voting and having how many Republicans vote twice- yes- he “got re-elected”.",
">\n\nLet the chest thumping and dick swinging begin (or continue?).",
">\n\nThis is going to be fun …",
">\n\nOnly because the democrats campaign was practically nonexistent, im sure he would’ve lost if they actually cared enough to run a competent candidate",
">\n\nLet the Republicans fight themselves.",
">\n\n“I got re-elected, hahaha.”\n…but also, “The Big Lie” yadda yadda yadda fuck non-whites lol”",
">\n\nDude needs to shrink his midsection. He looks like he’s shoplifting chuck roasts",
">\n\nHe should have said:. I got reelected, loser.",
">\n\nI guess his election is the only one that’s legitimate. Maybe we should check that out, just to make sure he got elected fair and square. After all, he is a Republican fascist.",
">\n\nin florida - big deal - adolph hitler or benito mussolini could get elected in florida.",
">\n\nDeSantis won in a landslide so he has a point. Florida likes him a lot more than Trump.",
">\n\nI love it. Trump is going to demolish desantis, steal the nom and lose the general...",
">\n\nHa! Ronald is starting to crack under the pressure of Donald’s badmouthing.",
">\n\n\n...former GOP Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who Trump mocked and chased out of the 2016 race for president.\n\nPolitico throwing shade, damn! 😆\n(Please clap.)",
">\n\nI think he just called Trump a looser.",
">\n\nWell, he is kinda flabby.",
">\n\nThe only reason he is saying anything bad to Donnie is his team of political data scientists know he can get away with based on their numerous focus groups and polls. Desantis isn’t dumb.",
">\n\nFight fight fight",
">\n\nFight fight fight fight!",
">\n\nHow can Trump even knock him on how he handled covid? Isn’t that admitting to his base that the threat was real? \nThe mental gymnastics, how do they keep up?",
">\n\nTo be fair, Trump did have a religious conversion about Covid after he contracted it and would have died except for the miracles of modern science.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what I thought DeSantis would do if/when Trump went after him.\n\"It's pretty simple, folks. I'm a winner. He's a massive loser. You want to win, right? Then don't support the loser.\"\nThis will infuriate Trump and make him look even worse and more desperate than he already does.",
">\n\nI attended this session in person. He handled the question deftly and the crowd applauded his answer. \nFlorida loves DeSantis and there are signs more people are looking at DeSantis more favorably than Trump. This is because DeSantis represents a new generation of politics with more energy on current issues and a record of accomplishing goals at the state level. \nIf you see Trump’s latest press conferences he is clearly following in Ron’s steps on the culture conflicts.",
">\n\nTrump fights dirty and probably has the goods on all these chodes DeSantis included, I wouldn’t count him out yet",
">\n\nI don’t disagree there at all. DeSantis has been quietly preparing for a grudge match for sure.",
">\n\nYes. Eat each other.",
">\n\nI’ll just be over here with some popcorn.",
">\n\nMight as well bring a steak. \nThere's gonna be a fire",
">\n\nWho wants hamberders?",
">\n\nMe.",
">\n\n^ This guy hamberders. Come on get in here... dig in.",
">\n\nTrump won Florida both times tho. Starting to think any deep-fried turd can win in Florida",
">\n\nAnd Rick Scott.\nWith DeSantis, Gaetz and Scott being mention, you may now rest your case.",
">\n\nSeeing that they don’t believe climate change over there can’t you guys just… i don’t know let Florida sink?",
">\n\nThe dingly dangly state is clearly infected. We need to amputate it at the Georgia.",
">\n\nYou'll watch DeSantis's approval rating and 2024 support go up. \nRepublican voters love this kind of stuff. They want a strongman.",
">\n\nEh until he actually has to go on TV. DeSantis has negative charisma. I hate il Douche with almost every fiber of my being but at least I can recognize he has a certain kind of media appeal. Ronnie has literally built a career on triggering the libs and sucking up to Trump. He's a political paper tiger.",
">\n\nDeSantis has very limited social skills. He's said to \"not be a people person\", is uncomfortable informally chatting in groups, and has been observed just walking away, mid-conversation with peers.\nThis is anecdotal, but if he runs, all aspects of his persona will be exposed.\nGenuinely connecting with ordinary folks on an emotional level is only one of Biden's many strengths, and is necessary to win elections.\nDeSantis will absolutely not be able to compete / prevail on a national scale.\nStick to Florida, Little Hitler: that's your only lane.",
">\n\nHe seemed very weird in the few debates I saw. Trump would eat him up on a debate stage.",
">\n\n“Got reelected.” At what cost- to make Floridan's lives, especially students/educators, more miserable?",
">\n\nI'm sure DeSantis doesn't care. It's all a popularity contest to these guys",
">\n\nAlways has been, sort of. In blue states it's a popularity contest. In red states their thumb is heavily on the scale in non statewide races. Governor is a statewide race and DeSantis won by a fair bit over his opponent Crist so his popularity is real.",
">\n\nThe Florida Democrats ran a Luke warm candidate hoping they'd be able to grab the moderate republican vote against DeSantis, on top of that their campaign game is weak in the state.",
">\n\nRed-on-red on crime is my favorite kind of crime!",
">\n\nMine is theft, but I am partial to arson",
">\n\n\"My angry inch is more angry than you're angry inch!\"",
">\n\nI'd love for santis to run as repub and dump to run third party split that vote baby",
">\n\nAt some point after the 2020 election, I created a chart of \"What if 2024 was a repeat of 2020, but Trump was a third party candidate pulling 30% of the Republican vote.\" Almost the entire country was a field of blue. Some of the deepest red states would still go red, but just barely.",
">\n\nIf that happens that would be the funniest fucking thing that screws over the republican party forever and i so desperately want it to happen.",
">\n\nIf he loses the primary he's going to dedicate his time to bringing them down so he can say only he could have won but the party cheated him out. He said Ted Cruz cheated against him at the Iowa caucus\nThe only chance Ron would have is if Trump was promised a pardon but at this point does trump think he'll ever face charges and is he capable of backing a guy like Desantis who defeated him for months? Probably not",
">\n\nPeople like Trump don’t trust in promises.",
">\n\nWell I don’t trust in promises from people like Trump, so I guess things kind of even out.",
">\n\nThat’s the reason. Liars think everyone else is lying.",
">\n\nThat’s how they justify the lies. If everyone else is lying, they’re only playing by the same rules.\nTo be clear, everyone is NOT lying",
">\n\nLock both of these criminals up!",
">\n\nSo, to put this in the context for what DeSantis is suggesting, I believe in a head-to-head for the Florida governorship, Trump would beat DeSantis hands down.",
">\n\nI dunno, in 2020 Trump got 51.2% of the vote, in 2022 DeSantis got 59.4% (though fewer votes in total than Trump in 2020).",
">\n\nComing from an independent here in Florida no way Trump would beat DeSantis in Florida.Trump support is just down to the Flag waving Trump is my whole personality crowd.",
">\n\nAnd that crowd keeps shrinking as Tantruming Trump keeps lashing out at other people his supporters like. They liked his lashing out when it attacked their opposition, they don't like it when it's attacking their friends.",
">\n\nEveryone send letters to Maralago encouraging Trump to start a 3rd party.",
">\n\n\"Dear Mr. President who is very smart and handsome and has really big hands...\"",
">\n\nOr, more accurately:\nMy voter base is dumber than yours!",
">\n\nHeh, wannabe authoritarian spars with the Traitor. \nDumb and dumber 3, Rinse, Recycle, Repeat...\nRRR from the GOP",
">\n\nThat's the closest thing to an admission that there was no voter fraud that we're ever likely to get",
">\n\nFlorida voters are the most masochistic people you’ll ever meet.",
">\n\nMatch made in heaven since they only elect sadists.",
">\n\nFight, you fucking swine, fight.",
">\n\nThey both stand like centaurs missing their back half’s. Why do they stand so weird?????",
">\n\nBoth of these guys pretty much are the back half of a centaur.",
">\n\nI can’t wait until the entire nation sees how absolutely irritating he is.",
">\n\nTo be fair Trump won Florida with the same group of misinformed Fox News mainliners.",
">\n\nTrump should run for Florida governor",
">\n\nYeah, that would be really fun to watch. DeSantis would shit his pants. And both of them would descend to a level of dumbassery \"the likes of which has never been seen in the history of the world.\"",
">\n\nDeSantis is term-limited (as of today’s laws) so he could care less.",
">\n\nyea but didn't he draw up his own maps",
">\n\nDidn’t he have to use illegally gerrymandered maps to win?",
">\n\nIn Florida. I mean, Trump won Florida twice too. That's not a huge snap back. But I'm not going to defend Trump. Let them fight.",
">\n\nThe height of Republican discourse, here. \nSomeone smells blood in the water.",
">\n\nPopcorn! Get your popcorn here!\nBuy the jumbo sized bucket and get a free soda!",
">\n\nRight. It's easier to suppress voters in one state vice an entire country.",
">\n\nRonnie better be careful, much of trumps base has a collective delusion that trump won his election too.",
">\n\nLet them fight.",
">\n\nNot as sick of a burn as he thinks. In Trump's mind, he was reelected too.",
">\n\nThe one thing I look forward to is Donald going for vengeance against this dimwit.",
">\n\nThey’re both terrible, and it’s embarrassing they’re even in the running for anything.",
">\n\nDeSantis just asserted the election was valid.",
">\n\nSo Media, are we going to have endure every single hissy fit from these two clowns throw at each other for the duration?",
">\n\nYes, yes we will. Submit to the machine my friend.",
">\n\nAs much as I despise both of them, that's a pretty good backhand slap",
">\n\nSnaps back? These media outlets are making total fools out of themselves with this undignified slang in their headlines.",
">\n\nThis and “claps back” makes me see red.",
">\n\nBy denying millions of votes.",
">\n\nHow long do you think it will be before they start shipping immigrants at each other?",
">\n\nLol good one",
">\n\nDeSantis is much smarter than Trump. He’s a scary politician.",
">\n\nlol BURN.",
">\n\nIt's a smackdown.\nTrump's going to send his henchman Marjorie Taylor Green to climb into the ring when no one's looking and hit him with a chair.",
">\n\nWhen he gets elected by the maga, that's when we see how stupid Americans are.",
">\n\nOr how corrupt the state election boards are across America",
">\n\nThat's honestly not a bad argument, everything considered.",
">\n\nDeSantis' (\"Desanctimonious\") only worth is that he pisses off Trump.",
">\n\nCant wait to watch these two grown men children fight each other",
">\n\nOoh, scat fight! Scat fight!",
">\n\nAt about the point where I couldn’t distinguish between republicans political rhetoric and a couple of 3rd graders on the schoolyard, I tuned out of politics. Fuck these morons.",
">\n\nI mean, through cheating and having a Nazi election police force to arrest black voters who did nothing wrong. And through gerrymandering the other seats, and using illegal maps. So not really.",
">\n\nI was expecting a “slam” but I’ll settle for a “snap”.",
">\n\nHahaha I love all this infighting",
">\n\nSnaps back?!? More like a very weak Neener Neener. And Trump saying “he’s disloyal”? Come on, guys, get in there!",
">\n\n...and he can walk in high heels...",
">\n\nAs much as I don't like DeSantis, I'm here for all the reminders that Trump's a loser",
">\n\nIt's on.",
">\n\nHe was only re-elected because he had Trumps support. Desanctimonious will be in fur a big surprise come the primaries.",
">\n\nThe Republican primaries are going to turn into a dogpile on Trump, can't wait.",
">\n\nTrump just got made to look like a fucking LOSER. A real man would fight back no matter what.",
">\n\nIt’s on like Donkey Kong",
">\n\nThis guy always looks constipated to me",
">\n\n...and with that, the bloodfest begins...",
">\n\nLol. Ok Ronny. Just remember never wrestle with a pig…..",
">\n\nNice. Fight fight fight fight",
">\n\nYeah and both yall look like shit in your suits.",
">\n\nIf Trump is trying to evade jail time he should run as DeSantis' VP. Automatic win for the Republicans. They would control the all branches of government.",
">\n\nTrump and DeSantis are both pieces of shit. Fuck them. but with that said: seeing trump get dunked on is always great lol",
">\n\nIt’s happening! It’s happening! This is exciting, it’s always nice to see horrible people be pitted against each other.",
">\n\nThey're both fucking chodes.",
">\n\nOh man I can't wait to see all the in-fighting between rednecks here in Florida. Wonder how I can help stir the pot...",
">\n\nFight! Fight! Fight! Fight! Fight!",
">\n\noooo, ronny getting testy. ok, maybe we got a ballgame!",
">\n\nOh hot diggity, shots fired!",
">\n\nKeep fighting, ya scums!",
">\n\nBattle of the Bastards",
">\n\nDesantis lacks a soul.",
">\n\nCrazy or not, he’s not wrong. As much heat as him and Abbot get they got re-elected in a landslide. Equal criticism should fall in the shoulders that put him them in power repeatedly.",
">\n\nGuys guys, you’re both just terrible.",
">\n\nYesss feed the hatred",
">\n\nTechically it would be politically poor optics for Desantis to get bitchy with trump, as he needs to maintain that base, else he risks dividing the base. That being said, I hope trump pesters the living shit out of him. Make this piggy squeal and insult trumpism. Self richeous conservative pride like that has a lot of anger in it.\n\"Let them fight\"",
">\n\nSo he believes Biden won in a free and fair election?",
">\n\nWait, what happened to election denial? I thought the line was that the election was stolen?",
">\n\nWatching them sling shit at one another is SO entertaining!",
">\n\nThat Trump alleges he could stop the Dems from stealing DeSuckass's election but not from stealing his own is some cuck shit.",
">\n\nAfter preventing Democrats from voting and having how many Republicans vote twice- yes- he “got re-elected”.",
">\n\nLet the chest thumping and dick swinging begin (or continue?).",
">\n\nThis is going to be fun …",
">\n\nOnly because the democrats campaign was practically nonexistent, im sure he would’ve lost if they actually cared enough to run a competent candidate",
">\n\nLet the Republicans fight themselves.",
">\n\n“I got re-elected, hahaha.”\n…but also, “The Big Lie” yadda yadda yadda fuck non-whites lol”",
">\n\nDude needs to shrink his midsection. He looks like he’s shoplifting chuck roasts",
">\n\nHe should have said:. I got reelected, loser.",
">\n\nI guess his election is the only one that’s legitimate. Maybe we should check that out, just to make sure he got elected fair and square. After all, he is a Republican fascist.",
">\n\nin florida - big deal - adolph hitler or benito mussolini could get elected in florida.",
">\n\nDeSantis won in a landslide so he has a point. Florida likes him a lot more than Trump.",
">\n\nI love it. Trump is going to demolish desantis, steal the nom and lose the general...",
">\n\nHa! Ronald is starting to crack under the pressure of Donald’s badmouthing.",
">\n\n\n...former GOP Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, who Trump mocked and chased out of the 2016 race for president.\n\nPolitico throwing shade, damn! 😆\n(Please clap.)",
">\n\nI think he just called Trump a looser.",
">\n\nWell, he is kinda flabby.",
">\n\nThe only reason he is saying anything bad to Donnie is his team of political data scientists know he can get away with based on their numerous focus groups and polls. Desantis isn’t dumb.",
">\n\nFight fight fight",
">\n\nFight fight fight fight!",
">\n\nHow can Trump even knock him on how he handled covid? Isn’t that admitting to his base that the threat was real? \nThe mental gymnastics, how do they keep up?",
">\n\nTo be fair, Trump did have a religious conversion about Covid after he contracted it and would have died except for the miracles of modern science.",
">\n\nThis is exactly what I thought DeSantis would do if/when Trump went after him.\n\"It's pretty simple, folks. I'm a winner. He's a massive loser. You want to win, right? Then don't support the loser.\"\nThis will infuriate Trump and make him look even worse and more desperate than he already does.",
">\n\nI attended this session in person. He handled the question deftly and the crowd applauded his answer. \nFlorida loves DeSantis and there are signs more people are looking at DeSantis more favorably than Trump. This is because DeSantis represents a new generation of politics with more energy on current issues and a record of accomplishing goals at the state level. \nIf you see Trump’s latest press conferences he is clearly following in Ron’s steps on the culture conflicts.",
">\n\nTrump fights dirty and probably has the goods on all these chodes DeSantis included, I wouldn’t count him out yet",
">\n\nI don’t disagree there at all. DeSantis has been quietly preparing for a grudge match for sure."
] |
I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly. | [] |
>
Yes, now do all of Trump's locations. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly."
] |
>
This!
They only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location.
Once again, he gets preferential treatment. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations."
] |
>
Probably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same
The Trump searches were done via warrant | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment."
] |
>
Again....he has multiple homes and properties.
Just seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a "Top Secret" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant"
] |
>
You need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.
They got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower."
] |
>
They got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.
This is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.
What kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it."
] |
>
They were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that."
] |
>
What a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant."
] |
>
The whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news"
] |
>
It's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them."
] |
>
Also, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches? | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here."
] |
>
Yeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought "oh shit, better get this dealt with now." | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?"
] |
>
Can't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\""
] |
>
Obviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents."
] |
>
GOP: Where is he hiding them?! | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails"
] |
>
They must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll) | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!"
] |
>
They are actually wrapped around his dick. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)"
] |
>
Sick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick."
] |
>
Thumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous."
] |
>
At least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive."
] |
>
Cries bc of jealousy for wlb ;( | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance."
] |
>
Meanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.
Pence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration . | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;("
] |
>
I know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter? | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration ."
] |
>
I would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?"
] |
>
And working that bitchen tan. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather."
] |
>
The Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan."
] |
>
They won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there."
] |
>
He clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results."
] |
>
I bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there."
] |
>
The last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!
Criminal mastermind, he is. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man"
] |
>
Well of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is."
] |
>
No, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop."
] |
>
I don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies."
] |
>
That's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.
The DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.
Without compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough ("Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.")
When the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it."
] |
>
That does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there."
] |
>
If there were documents found: "I Knew it!"
If there are no documents found: "FBI is covering for him!"
Just like the election they totally won because "no one wears Biden hats." | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel."
] |
>
Something's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\""
] |
>
Weird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s"
] |
>
Yay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s
I’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH."
] |
>
Held accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply."
] |
>
FoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them."
] |
>
The FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s"
] |
>
Because Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito."
] |
>
IIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump."
] |
>
The news:
"There is no news" | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago"
] |
>
And that is good news. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\""
] |
>
...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news."
] |
>
"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house" - soon | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news."
] |
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Republicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon"
] |
>
The GOP got their "raid" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon"
] |
>
No, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question."
] |
>
Yes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious! | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it."
] |
>
Actually incredible that this has become news now | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!"
] |
>
What made this happen? I've missed something it seems. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now"
] |
>
At this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems."
] |
>
Carter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe."
] |
>
They did find a speedo | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style."
] |
>
That’s even more concerning | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo"
] |
>
How sad is it that NOT finding anything is news... | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning"
] |
>
Can we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices? | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news..."
] |
>
How many more houses does he have left for us to search? | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?"
] |
>
This is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?"
] |
>
Is there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump."
] |
>
Anyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides."
] |
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So now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous ! | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president."
] |
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Trump's minions "Witch hunt" because anyone else think "irony" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for "Classified Docs" in their homes... | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !"
] |
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so damn glad it's not Oct 2024. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes..."
] |
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Woohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024."
] |
>
Is there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low."
] |
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Is there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?
I think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies."
] |
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Considering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump."
] |
>
News - sitting president not guilty of something. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol."
] |
>
That not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something."
] |
>
I wonder what they would find at Bedminster 🤔, that seems to be getting swept under the rug 🤷🏻♂️ | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something.",
">\n\nThat not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot"
] |
>
I would expect nothing to be found at any Biden property after WH attorneys scrubed the facilities prior to FBI search. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something.",
">\n\nThat not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot",
">\n\nI wonder what they would find at Bedminster 🤔, that seems to be getting swept under the rug 🤷🏻♂️"
] |
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Biden's attorneys are the ones that found and reported the documents in the first place, which prompted this follow-up search. I'm sure this conspiracy sounded smart in your head, though. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something.",
">\n\nThat not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot",
">\n\nI wonder what they would find at Bedminster 🤔, that seems to be getting swept under the rug 🤷🏻♂️",
">\n\nI would expect nothing to be found at any Biden property after WH attorneys scrubed the facilities prior to FBI search."
] |
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Duh they are all at Hunter's house. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something.",
">\n\nThat not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot",
">\n\nI wonder what they would find at Bedminster 🤔, that seems to be getting swept under the rug 🤷🏻♂️",
">\n\nI would expect nothing to be found at any Biden property after WH attorneys scrubed the facilities prior to FBI search.",
">\n\nBiden's attorneys are the ones that found and reported the documents in the first place, which prompted this follow-up search. I'm sure this conspiracy sounded smart in your head, though."
] |
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Only cause he forgot where they were | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something.",
">\n\nThat not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot",
">\n\nI wonder what they would find at Bedminster 🤔, that seems to be getting swept under the rug 🤷🏻♂️",
">\n\nI would expect nothing to be found at any Biden property after WH attorneys scrubed the facilities prior to FBI search.",
">\n\nBiden's attorneys are the ones that found and reported the documents in the first place, which prompted this follow-up search. I'm sure this conspiracy sounded smart in your head, though.",
">\n\nDuh they are all at Hunter's house."
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It’s gotten to the point where we’re just reporting on the places Biden hasn’t illegally stored classified documents? | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something.",
">\n\nThat not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot",
">\n\nI wonder what they would find at Bedminster 🤔, that seems to be getting swept under the rug 🤷🏻♂️",
">\n\nI would expect nothing to be found at any Biden property after WH attorneys scrubed the facilities prior to FBI search.",
">\n\nBiden's attorneys are the ones that found and reported the documents in the first place, which prompted this follow-up search. I'm sure this conspiracy sounded smart in your head, though.",
">\n\nDuh they are all at Hunter's house.",
">\n\nOnly cause he forgot where they were"
] |
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Democrats eat their own haha I guess grandpa isn’t running in 2024 🤷🏻 | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something.",
">\n\nThat not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot",
">\n\nI wonder what they would find at Bedminster 🤔, that seems to be getting swept under the rug 🤷🏻♂️",
">\n\nI would expect nothing to be found at any Biden property after WH attorneys scrubed the facilities prior to FBI search.",
">\n\nBiden's attorneys are the ones that found and reported the documents in the first place, which prompted this follow-up search. I'm sure this conspiracy sounded smart in your head, though.",
">\n\nDuh they are all at Hunter's house.",
">\n\nOnly cause he forgot where they were",
">\n\nIt’s gotten to the point where we’re just reporting on the places Biden hasn’t illegally stored classified documents?"
] |
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He already gave them to China. | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something.",
">\n\nThat not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot",
">\n\nI wonder what they would find at Bedminster 🤔, that seems to be getting swept under the rug 🤷🏻♂️",
">\n\nI would expect nothing to be found at any Biden property after WH attorneys scrubed the facilities prior to FBI search.",
">\n\nBiden's attorneys are the ones that found and reported the documents in the first place, which prompted this follow-up search. I'm sure this conspiracy sounded smart in your head, though.",
">\n\nDuh they are all at Hunter's house.",
">\n\nOnly cause he forgot where they were",
">\n\nIt’s gotten to the point where we’re just reporting on the places Biden hasn’t illegally stored classified documents?",
">\n\nDemocrats eat their own haha I guess grandpa isn’t running in 2024 🤷🏻"
] |
> | [
"I am glad that the search was conducted. DOJ is acting properly.",
">\n\nYes, now do all of Trump's locations.",
">\n\nThis! \nThey only searched two places. MAL and a storage facility. Nowhere else. Even though Trump could have hidden them almost anywhere, even at an overseas location. \nOnce again, he gets preferential treatment.",
">\n\nProbably because Biden is allowing the DOJ to search without any warrants because he wants to make sure he doesn’t have any others. Pence did the same\nThe Trump searches were done via warrant",
">\n\nAgain....he has multiple homes and properties. \nJust seems odd nobody has looked at any of the other properties he has visited. Hell, I think he has a \"Top Secret\" folder on display at his shitty restaurant in Trump Tower.",
">\n\nYou need probable cause to get a judge to sign off and it appears the FBI has introduced a strong vetting regime in those search warrants because of him being an ex-President.\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.",
">\n\n\nThey got probable cause at the other properties because his staff and secret service alerted the FBI to it.\n\nThis is one of the things that really irks me about the whole situation. Some of the documents that were found even required a facility to be specially constructed to view them, assuming you were authorized to in the first place.\nWhat kind of record handling are the National Archive doing that they weren't proactively trying to get top secret documents back? Hell, some of the stuff Biden had was from when he was in the Senate. I just can't see any excuse for that.",
">\n\nThey were trying to get them back. Trump gave some, the NA said there’s more, eventually got a subpoena, then the search warrant.",
">\n\nWhat a world we live in when NOT finding classified materials in unsecured locations is headline news",
">\n\nThe whole thing is an obvious retaliation for the the debacle with Trump stealing classified documents and then lying to the FBI about having returned them.",
">\n\nIt's not retaliation. Biden's DoJ is covering the bases to avoid accusations of partisanship. Those accusations are still being made, but there's no revenge element here.",
">\n\nAlso, haven't Biden's lawyers been asking for these searches?",
">\n\nYeah, this all kicked off being one of his lawyers found some documents and thought \"oh shit, better get this dealt with now.\"",
">\n\nCan't wait to hear how this is even worse than if they found documents.",
">\n\nObviously hunter biden put them in his laptop and sent them to hillary’s emails",
">\n\nGOP: Where is he hiding them?!",
">\n\nThey must be on Hunter Biden's laptop. (eyeroll)",
">\n\nThey are actually wrapped around his dick.",
">\n\nSick new government funded cock ring. Who knew old Joe was that adventurous.",
">\n\nThumb drive is so 2010. You gotta get the new dick drive.",
">\n\nAt least it confirms he has a decent work-life balance.",
">\n\nCries bc of jealousy for wlb ;(",
">\n\nMeanwhile Cheney, Gore, and Quayle probably have some poor assistant furiously combing through old documents.\nPence has already turned all of his over recently, or so he claims. Clinton, Bush, and Obama say they have none. Carter already cleared his home in the 80s, but the law in question didn’t even apply to his administration .",
">\n\nI know Carter is old, but the Unauthorized removal and retention of classified documents statute is from like 1924. Why wouldn't it apply to Carter?",
">\n\nI would hope not! This house is meant for throwing back some brews and taking a breather.",
">\n\nAnd working that bitchen tan.",
">\n\nThe Republicans will certainly have to investigate why there weren't any there.",
">\n\nThey won’t bother. Their news will be full of stories about the search. Not the results.",
">\n\nHe clearly hid the piles and piles of classified documents he had stashed there.",
">\n\nI bet he hid them in the archives that dirty old man",
">\n\nThe last place anyone would think to look.... Right where they belong!\nCriminal mastermind, he is.",
">\n\nWell of course not. Everyone knows that the classified documents are on Hunter Biden's laptop.",
">\n\nNo, the laptop was where they kept the under-aged hookers and crackpipe selfies.",
">\n\nI don't really get how the FBI has already searched three locations related to Biden but only one to Trump. Cooperation or not, the Trump investigation has been running longer and there's no news of the FBI asking to search Trump's NJ home, even after Trump's lawyers have searched it.",
">\n\nThat's the difference between compliance and non-compliance, and why Trump is likely under threat of felony obstruction and broader criminal intent and Biden likely isn't.\nThe DOJ is probing the possibility of documents at Trump's NJ and NY homes, but they need the legal foundation to obtain a search warrant.\nWithout compliance, obtaining a search warrant requires showing a judge in that residence's jurisdiction concrete evidence of probable cause that crimes are being committed. Inference usually isn't enough (\"Well, he did it at X, so he probably did it at Y.\")\nWhen the DOJ obtained a search warrant for Mar-A-Lago, they cited 3 felonies and had an informant or other evidence of some sort that documents were still there.",
">\n\nThat does put things more into perspective, but it still doesn't change that to my knowledge there aren't any reports of them asking to do a search of Trump's other properties, even after documents have been found in NJ, IIRC. While the FBI found documents worth retrieving for whatever records reasons in this case, there didn't seem to be any indication or reason for them to search here otherwise based on past statements by Biden's counsel.",
">\n\nIf there were documents found: \"I Knew it!\"\nIf there are no documents found: \"FBI is covering for him!\"\nJust like the election they totally won because \"no one wears Biden hats.\"",
">\n\nSomething's wrong here, he's not on Twitter screaming WITCH HUNT and interfering with the DOJ investigation. The old fool doesn't know how this game is played! /s",
">\n\nWeird not having a complete sociopath and moron in the WH.",
">\n\nYay, we found a property owned by a former leader that isn’t violating basic security protocols. /s\nI’m glad the DOJ is following up on this. This should become a standard practice for all cleared officials who ever had classified documents in their personal possession. People should be held accountable if they negligently or deliberately don’t comply.",
">\n\nHeld accountable? Nothing will happen to any of them.",
">\n\nFoxNews: Which only proves that it's the EXACT same scenario as Mar-a-Lago. /s",
">\n\nThe FBI seems super quick on this compared to how they dragged their feet for a whole year before looking into Cheeto Benito.",
">\n\nBecause Biden cooperated and they had to get a court order for Trump.",
">\n\nIIRC, FBI pushed back on DOJ for months before finally agreeing to search Mar A Lago",
">\n\nThe news:\n\"There is no news\"",
">\n\nAnd that is good news.",
">\n\n...Except some were found at his think tank office and actual home. So not very good news.",
">\n\n\"Republicans launch investigation into failure to find classified documents at Biden's beach house\" - soon",
">\n\nRepublicans to call for the head of the FBI to resign over failure to find documents- also soon",
">\n\nThe GOP got their \"raid\" and nothing was found, will this shut them up? That is a rhetorical question.",
">\n\nNo, but it will convince their minions that the FBI is corrupt and part of the Deep State thing or whatever. Reality has no power over those that refuse to believe in it.",
">\n\nYes but did you find sand? Because no sand at a beach house is suspicious!",
">\n\nActually incredible that this has become news now",
">\n\nWhat made this happen? I've missed something it seems.",
">\n\nAt this point we better check Bill, W., and Barack as well just to be safe.",
">\n\nCarter is still kicking too. Would be great optics to bust into his home Christmas Vacation style.",
">\n\nThey did find a speedo",
">\n\nThat’s even more concerning",
">\n\nHow sad is it that NOT finding anything is news...",
">\n\nCan we eminent domain politicians' non- primary residences and then rent it out to them for absurd prices?",
">\n\nHow many more houses does he have left for us to search?",
">\n\nThis is not news. If they cuff Biden for mishandling documents, they would have to cuff Trump; and no way is the DOJ going to cuff Trump.",
">\n\nIs there any evidence Biden mishandled documents? We have evidence Trump was directly involved both in stealing classified and nonclassified documents and the cover up to lie to the government about it. I haven't seen any evidence that Biden was personally involved or responsible for the classified information ending up at these locations. I doubt he handled moving all his documents himself post Vice Presidency and these documents could have been misplaced by aides.",
">\n\nAnyone stupid enough to not clean it out after the first justice department raid doesn’t deserve to be president.",
">\n\nSo now they are just checking in case ? LoL this is getting ridiculous !",
">\n\nTrump's minions \"Witch hunt\" because anyone else think \"irony\" that Drumpf is running and all of a sudden, Biden and Pence (his least favorite Washington execs) are targeted around same time for \"Classified Docs\" in their homes...",
">\n\nso damn glad it's not Oct 2024.",
">\n\nWoohoo what a good President! Damn the bar is so low.",
">\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have? Shouldn't there be a list of missing documents and who signed them out? Do they just let people run around with important documents with no idea who they are? They should always know who has what. If they've lost the documents or left them unsecure and they were stolen then they should be in serious shit. Seems like a simple invintory management system would probably save some tax dollars and limit tha ability for people to give top secret stuff to enemies.",
">\n\n\nIs there no sort of sign out system like libraries have?\n\nI think it depends on the content. Obviously they keep track of some of the outgoing stuff. Otherwise they wouldn't have known to ask for it back from Trump.",
">\n\nConsidering you’re not SUPPOSED to have classified documents at your beach house, good job. Lol.",
">\n\nNews - sitting president not guilty of something.",
">\n\nThat not finding confidential documents in the beach house of the acting president is worth a headline tells you a lot",
">\n\nI wonder what they would find at Bedminster 🤔, that seems to be getting swept under the rug 🤷🏻♂️",
">\n\nI would expect nothing to be found at any Biden property after WH attorneys scrubed the facilities prior to FBI search.",
">\n\nBiden's attorneys are the ones that found and reported the documents in the first place, which prompted this follow-up search. I'm sure this conspiracy sounded smart in your head, though.",
">\n\nDuh they are all at Hunter's house.",
">\n\nOnly cause he forgot where they were",
">\n\nIt’s gotten to the point where we’re just reporting on the places Biden hasn’t illegally stored classified documents?",
">\n\nDemocrats eat their own haha I guess grandpa isn’t running in 2024 🤷🏻",
">\n\nHe already gave them to China."
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In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.
Still, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.
How do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote. | [] |
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It’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote."
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It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves
Older voters tend to vote for their peers. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans."
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That’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers."
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Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election
In part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with "who you know." And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.
Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.
Politics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions."
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how can younger Americans achieve the same economic comfort level given to the older American population by the government
Vote. It's not a secret. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions.",
">\n\n\nSomeone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election\n\nIn part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with \"who you know.\" And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.\n\nUsually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.\n\nPolitics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself."
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Vote for who? In my local elections both parties supported "protecting property values" and limiting multi-family development that was causing traffic. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions.",
">\n\n\nSomeone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election\n\nIn part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with \"who you know.\" And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.\n\nUsually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.\n\nPolitics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself.",
">\n\n\nhow can younger Americans achieve the same economic comfort level given to the older American population by the government\n\nVote. It's not a secret."
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It's not just voting, but also the accumulated effect of a lot of social connections and minor bits of influence all adding up.
A million twenty-somethings won't have the same ability to get heard or listened to by elected officials in their fifties and older, because none of them run in the same social circles. But your local and state officials have grown up and worked and hung out with peers who are their same age, so they are more in tune with what those people want.
It's not even necessarily that elected officials are being advocated to. They might just be doing what they think is 'right,' but if they don't get exposed to the perspectives of younger people (or women/minorities/etc), they don't realize that they're failing to represent those people's interests.
I'm in Atlanta. Older folks can generally afford homes, and they think having high property values is good for them, and that's just what the prevailing wisdom is among those generations. If you want them to truly understand how shitty it is for millennials and younger to afford homes, you've got to go talk to them.
It's not 'just vote for them.' If you vote for them and don't say anything else, they're just gonna, y'know, assume you like what they're doing. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions.",
">\n\n\nSomeone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election\n\nIn part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with \"who you know.\" And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.\n\nUsually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.\n\nPolitics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself.",
">\n\n\nhow can younger Americans achieve the same economic comfort level given to the older American population by the government\n\nVote. It's not a secret.",
">\n\nVote for who? In my local elections both parties supported \"protecting property values\" and limiting multi-family development that was causing traffic."
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This. Your representatives in the legislature and Congress are real people that you can actually contact and advise. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions.",
">\n\n\nSomeone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election\n\nIn part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with \"who you know.\" And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.\n\nUsually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.\n\nPolitics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself.",
">\n\n\nhow can younger Americans achieve the same economic comfort level given to the older American population by the government\n\nVote. It's not a secret.",
">\n\nVote for who? In my local elections both parties supported \"protecting property values\" and limiting multi-family development that was causing traffic.",
">\n\nIt's not just voting, but also the accumulated effect of a lot of social connections and minor bits of influence all adding up.\nA million twenty-somethings won't have the same ability to get heard or listened to by elected officials in their fifties and older, because none of them run in the same social circles. But your local and state officials have grown up and worked and hung out with peers who are their same age, so they are more in tune with what those people want. \nIt's not even necessarily that elected officials are being advocated to. They might just be doing what they think is 'right,' but if they don't get exposed to the perspectives of younger people (or women/minorities/etc), they don't realize that they're failing to represent those people's interests.\nI'm in Atlanta. Older folks can generally afford homes, and they think having high property values is good for them, and that's just what the prevailing wisdom is among those generations. If you want them to truly understand how shitty it is for millennials and younger to afford homes, you've got to go talk to them.\nIt's not 'just vote for them.' If you vote for them and don't say anything else, they're just gonna, y'know, assume you like what they're doing."
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I've written letters to our "elected officials" and have not had any response or acknowledgement. The abuses of what I refer to as big business and/or big tech., corporate health car, etc. are all largely ignored. Our elected officials now seem to hire specialists to manage their Facebook profile or other social media faces. Visit the web sites provided by either branch of congress and use the provided information to attempt to contact your designated representative. I would really like to hear of any of our representatives who have any time for individual Americans. In their defence, it would be a daunting task given the ratio of our population to the number of representatives we have but, our system has seemingly been taken over by "big money" from large groups. Voting and being as informed as possible about issues is the primary path available to us to drive change in our "democratic" society. The biggest threat we face may be the forces which attempt to hide facts and issues in order to serve their own interests. Consider the banning of books and AP history classes merely to promote a facade of perfection. We have to be careful that we don't become totally isolated from the society in which we live by ignoring issues and problems. If everything is driven by greed and a lust for power we will have lost just like great civilizations of the past. Consider the fall of Rome, the French Revolution, or the horrors of the "Great Wars" and the Crusades. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions.",
">\n\n\nSomeone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election\n\nIn part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with \"who you know.\" And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.\n\nUsually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.\n\nPolitics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself.",
">\n\n\nhow can younger Americans achieve the same economic comfort level given to the older American population by the government\n\nVote. It's not a secret.",
">\n\nVote for who? In my local elections both parties supported \"protecting property values\" and limiting multi-family development that was causing traffic.",
">\n\nIt's not just voting, but also the accumulated effect of a lot of social connections and minor bits of influence all adding up.\nA million twenty-somethings won't have the same ability to get heard or listened to by elected officials in their fifties and older, because none of them run in the same social circles. But your local and state officials have grown up and worked and hung out with peers who are their same age, so they are more in tune with what those people want. \nIt's not even necessarily that elected officials are being advocated to. They might just be doing what they think is 'right,' but if they don't get exposed to the perspectives of younger people (or women/minorities/etc), they don't realize that they're failing to represent those people's interests.\nI'm in Atlanta. Older folks can generally afford homes, and they think having high property values is good for them, and that's just what the prevailing wisdom is among those generations. If you want them to truly understand how shitty it is for millennials and younger to afford homes, you've got to go talk to them.\nIt's not 'just vote for them.' If you vote for them and don't say anything else, they're just gonna, y'know, assume you like what they're doing.",
">\n\nThis. Your representatives in the legislature and Congress are real people that you can actually contact and advise."
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Because younger people tend to be more apathetic of politics. It’s a never ending cycle where young people don’t vote because they complain that politicians don’t represent them, but then politicians have no reason to cater to people that don’t vote.
Also, I think the US doesn’t have a strong civic culture amongst young people. Most young people don’t even recognize the power of local politics. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions.",
">\n\n\nSomeone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election\n\nIn part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with \"who you know.\" And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.\n\nUsually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.\n\nPolitics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself.",
">\n\n\nhow can younger Americans achieve the same economic comfort level given to the older American population by the government\n\nVote. It's not a secret.",
">\n\nVote for who? In my local elections both parties supported \"protecting property values\" and limiting multi-family development that was causing traffic.",
">\n\nIt's not just voting, but also the accumulated effect of a lot of social connections and minor bits of influence all adding up.\nA million twenty-somethings won't have the same ability to get heard or listened to by elected officials in their fifties and older, because none of them run in the same social circles. But your local and state officials have grown up and worked and hung out with peers who are their same age, so they are more in tune with what those people want. \nIt's not even necessarily that elected officials are being advocated to. They might just be doing what they think is 'right,' but if they don't get exposed to the perspectives of younger people (or women/minorities/etc), they don't realize that they're failing to represent those people's interests.\nI'm in Atlanta. Older folks can generally afford homes, and they think having high property values is good for them, and that's just what the prevailing wisdom is among those generations. If you want them to truly understand how shitty it is for millennials and younger to afford homes, you've got to go talk to them.\nIt's not 'just vote for them.' If you vote for them and don't say anything else, they're just gonna, y'know, assume you like what they're doing.",
">\n\nThis. Your representatives in the legislature and Congress are real people that you can actually contact and advise.",
">\n\nI've written letters to our \"elected officials\" and have not had any response or acknowledgement. The abuses of what I refer to as big business and/or big tech., corporate health car, etc. are all largely ignored. Our elected officials now seem to hire specialists to manage their Facebook profile or other social media faces. Visit the web sites provided by either branch of congress and use the provided information to attempt to contact your designated representative. I would really like to hear of any of our representatives who have any time for individual Americans. In their defence, it would be a daunting task given the ratio of our population to the number of representatives we have but, our system has seemingly been taken over by \"big money\" from large groups. Voting and being as informed as possible about issues is the primary path available to us to drive change in our \"democratic\" society. The biggest threat we face may be the forces which attempt to hide facts and issues in order to serve their own interests. Consider the banning of books and AP history classes merely to promote a facade of perfection. We have to be careful that we don't become totally isolated from the society in which we live by ignoring issues and problems. If everything is driven by greed and a lust for power we will have lost just like great civilizations of the past. Consider the fall of Rome, the French Revolution, or the horrors of the \"Great Wars\" and the Crusades."
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Or they recognize it as the corrupt circus it is. | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions.",
">\n\n\nSomeone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election\n\nIn part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with \"who you know.\" And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.\n\nUsually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.\n\nPolitics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself.",
">\n\n\nhow can younger Americans achieve the same economic comfort level given to the older American population by the government\n\nVote. It's not a secret.",
">\n\nVote for who? In my local elections both parties supported \"protecting property values\" and limiting multi-family development that was causing traffic.",
">\n\nIt's not just voting, but also the accumulated effect of a lot of social connections and minor bits of influence all adding up.\nA million twenty-somethings won't have the same ability to get heard or listened to by elected officials in their fifties and older, because none of them run in the same social circles. But your local and state officials have grown up and worked and hung out with peers who are their same age, so they are more in tune with what those people want. \nIt's not even necessarily that elected officials are being advocated to. They might just be doing what they think is 'right,' but if they don't get exposed to the perspectives of younger people (or women/minorities/etc), they don't realize that they're failing to represent those people's interests.\nI'm in Atlanta. Older folks can generally afford homes, and they think having high property values is good for them, and that's just what the prevailing wisdom is among those generations. If you want them to truly understand how shitty it is for millennials and younger to afford homes, you've got to go talk to them.\nIt's not 'just vote for them.' If you vote for them and don't say anything else, they're just gonna, y'know, assume you like what they're doing.",
">\n\nThis. Your representatives in the legislature and Congress are real people that you can actually contact and advise.",
">\n\nI've written letters to our \"elected officials\" and have not had any response or acknowledgement. The abuses of what I refer to as big business and/or big tech., corporate health car, etc. are all largely ignored. Our elected officials now seem to hire specialists to manage their Facebook profile or other social media faces. Visit the web sites provided by either branch of congress and use the provided information to attempt to contact your designated representative. I would really like to hear of any of our representatives who have any time for individual Americans. In their defence, it would be a daunting task given the ratio of our population to the number of representatives we have but, our system has seemingly been taken over by \"big money\" from large groups. Voting and being as informed as possible about issues is the primary path available to us to drive change in our \"democratic\" society. The biggest threat we face may be the forces which attempt to hide facts and issues in order to serve their own interests. Consider the banning of books and AP history classes merely to promote a facade of perfection. We have to be careful that we don't become totally isolated from the society in which we live by ignoring issues and problems. If everything is driven by greed and a lust for power we will have lost just like great civilizations of the past. Consider the fall of Rome, the French Revolution, or the horrors of the \"Great Wars\" and the Crusades.",
">\n\nBecause younger people tend to be more apathetic of politics. It’s a never ending cycle where young people don’t vote because they complain that politicians don’t represent them, but then politicians have no reason to cater to people that don’t vote. \nAlso, I think the US doesn’t have a strong civic culture amongst young people. Most young people don’t even recognize the power of local politics."
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"These people who vote consistently get what they want. The process is corrupt though, so it's smart not to vote." | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions.",
">\n\n\nSomeone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election\n\nIn part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with \"who you know.\" And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.\n\nUsually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.\n\nPolitics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself.",
">\n\n\nhow can younger Americans achieve the same economic comfort level given to the older American population by the government\n\nVote. It's not a secret.",
">\n\nVote for who? In my local elections both parties supported \"protecting property values\" and limiting multi-family development that was causing traffic.",
">\n\nIt's not just voting, but also the accumulated effect of a lot of social connections and minor bits of influence all adding up.\nA million twenty-somethings won't have the same ability to get heard or listened to by elected officials in their fifties and older, because none of them run in the same social circles. But your local and state officials have grown up and worked and hung out with peers who are their same age, so they are more in tune with what those people want. \nIt's not even necessarily that elected officials are being advocated to. They might just be doing what they think is 'right,' but if they don't get exposed to the perspectives of younger people (or women/minorities/etc), they don't realize that they're failing to represent those people's interests.\nI'm in Atlanta. Older folks can generally afford homes, and they think having high property values is good for them, and that's just what the prevailing wisdom is among those generations. If you want them to truly understand how shitty it is for millennials and younger to afford homes, you've got to go talk to them.\nIt's not 'just vote for them.' If you vote for them and don't say anything else, they're just gonna, y'know, assume you like what they're doing.",
">\n\nThis. Your representatives in the legislature and Congress are real people that you can actually contact and advise.",
">\n\nI've written letters to our \"elected officials\" and have not had any response or acknowledgement. The abuses of what I refer to as big business and/or big tech., corporate health car, etc. are all largely ignored. Our elected officials now seem to hire specialists to manage their Facebook profile or other social media faces. Visit the web sites provided by either branch of congress and use the provided information to attempt to contact your designated representative. I would really like to hear of any of our representatives who have any time for individual Americans. In their defence, it would be a daunting task given the ratio of our population to the number of representatives we have but, our system has seemingly been taken over by \"big money\" from large groups. Voting and being as informed as possible about issues is the primary path available to us to drive change in our \"democratic\" society. The biggest threat we face may be the forces which attempt to hide facts and issues in order to serve their own interests. Consider the banning of books and AP history classes merely to promote a facade of perfection. We have to be careful that we don't become totally isolated from the society in which we live by ignoring issues and problems. If everything is driven by greed and a lust for power we will have lost just like great civilizations of the past. Consider the fall of Rome, the French Revolution, or the horrors of the \"Great Wars\" and the Crusades.",
">\n\nBecause younger people tend to be more apathetic of politics. It’s a never ending cycle where young people don’t vote because they complain that politicians don’t represent them, but then politicians have no reason to cater to people that don’t vote. \nAlso, I think the US doesn’t have a strong civic culture amongst young people. Most young people don’t even recognize the power of local politics.",
">\n\nOr they recognize it as the corrupt circus it is."
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The absolute bewilderment and mystification with which young people regard the fact that old people's interests are so well represented because they actually flipping show up to vote consistently! | [
"In the 2018 midterm cycle, 35.6% of 18-29 year-olds showed up to vote. It's considered a particularly high midterm turnout for that age group.\nStill, it's dwarfed by other age groups. 41-64 year-olds had a 59.5% turnout, and 65+ show up at around 66.1%.\nHow do old people keep scoring political victories? They vote.",
">\n\nIt’s not just voting. If you’ve ever been to a county party meeting (for either party) the rooms are dominated by retired people. They’re also more likely to write to elected officials or show up to city council meetings and they have more disposable income for donations. It also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves. Virtually step of the political process including voting, grass roots activism, donations and running for office is largely dominated by older Americans.",
">\n\n\nIt also doesn’t hurt that the majority of high ranking politicians are over 55 themselves\n\nOlder voters tend to vote for their peers.",
">\n\nThat’s sort of true but also generally in order to be considered a viable candidate you have to have a bit of a resume. Someone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election. Usually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run. Both of these take time which naturally results in older candidates for higher positions.",
">\n\n\nSomeone straight out of undergrad running for governor is probably not going to do well in a general election\n\nIn part because they are generally not the peers of most of the people who actually vote. The institutions you outlined earlier has a lot to do with \"who you know.\" And surprise, older voters don't know younger people. Younger voters care a lot less, though, since they're new to the voting game. E.g.the popular support for AOC, who ousted the older establishment Democrat.\n\nUsually in order to get to a high level in politics you either start at a low level and work your way up or you advance to a high level in another field and then you run.\n\nPolitics is not the meritocracy you describe here. Maybe it should be, but in practice, cronyism prevails more often. It's typically enough to be the child of a previous politician, or someone rich enough to influence politicians. Some may coincidentally be hard workers, but it's very much thanks to connections that most politicians ultimately get anywhere. AOC is an exception to the rule, I think, not the rule itself.",
">\n\n\nhow can younger Americans achieve the same economic comfort level given to the older American population by the government\n\nVote. It's not a secret.",
">\n\nVote for who? In my local elections both parties supported \"protecting property values\" and limiting multi-family development that was causing traffic.",
">\n\nIt's not just voting, but also the accumulated effect of a lot of social connections and minor bits of influence all adding up.\nA million twenty-somethings won't have the same ability to get heard or listened to by elected officials in their fifties and older, because none of them run in the same social circles. But your local and state officials have grown up and worked and hung out with peers who are their same age, so they are more in tune with what those people want. \nIt's not even necessarily that elected officials are being advocated to. They might just be doing what they think is 'right,' but if they don't get exposed to the perspectives of younger people (or women/minorities/etc), they don't realize that they're failing to represent those people's interests.\nI'm in Atlanta. Older folks can generally afford homes, and they think having high property values is good for them, and that's just what the prevailing wisdom is among those generations. If you want them to truly understand how shitty it is for millennials and younger to afford homes, you've got to go talk to them.\nIt's not 'just vote for them.' If you vote for them and don't say anything else, they're just gonna, y'know, assume you like what they're doing.",
">\n\nThis. Your representatives in the legislature and Congress are real people that you can actually contact and advise.",
">\n\nI've written letters to our \"elected officials\" and have not had any response or acknowledgement. The abuses of what I refer to as big business and/or big tech., corporate health car, etc. are all largely ignored. Our elected officials now seem to hire specialists to manage their Facebook profile or other social media faces. Visit the web sites provided by either branch of congress and use the provided information to attempt to contact your designated representative. I would really like to hear of any of our representatives who have any time for individual Americans. In their defence, it would be a daunting task given the ratio of our population to the number of representatives we have but, our system has seemingly been taken over by \"big money\" from large groups. Voting and being as informed as possible about issues is the primary path available to us to drive change in our \"democratic\" society. The biggest threat we face may be the forces which attempt to hide facts and issues in order to serve their own interests. Consider the banning of books and AP history classes merely to promote a facade of perfection. We have to be careful that we don't become totally isolated from the society in which we live by ignoring issues and problems. If everything is driven by greed and a lust for power we will have lost just like great civilizations of the past. Consider the fall of Rome, the French Revolution, or the horrors of the \"Great Wars\" and the Crusades.",
">\n\nBecause younger people tend to be more apathetic of politics. It’s a never ending cycle where young people don’t vote because they complain that politicians don’t represent them, but then politicians have no reason to cater to people that don’t vote. \nAlso, I think the US doesn’t have a strong civic culture amongst young people. Most young people don’t even recognize the power of local politics.",
">\n\nOr they recognize it as the corrupt circus it is.",
">\n\n\"These people who vote consistently get what they want. The process is corrupt though, so it's smart not to vote.\""
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